Manchester United Rumours Archive July 29 2011

29 Jul 2011 23:13:52
Watching the Milk cup we should definetly pursue in some of these youngsters The Number 18 For Aspire Cedric i think was his name the lad who set the first 2 goals up & The lad who scored the hat trick was superb Darko i think was his name

PRR8

Darko is a great player but he comes with a lot of baggage. He's been in and out of trouble for the last few years, he's seeing a psychiatrist and his friend Frank is a nuisance. I'm not sure if he's worth the trouble.

One Sebastian Vroom Vroom

The guy who scored the hattrick is called Drame; I agree that he looks a great prospect, assuming he can bulk up by the time he gets to 18.
Mike B.

29 Jul 2011 21:47:21
Got to say i was very impressed by Aspire , very organised , good team and maybe some good young players to watch for in the future........very solid performance

DJL

29 Jul 2011 20:26:32
hey guys, if you want to watch the kiddywinks now, just type, 'stream bbc northern ireland', and go onto the bbc website....

fatfugazi

Aspire look a realy good young side , there guy up top is causing the defence allsorts of probs , they have some good young kids

29 Jul 2011 19:51:29
For people with VIRGIN, I am not positive but I think if you turn to BBC1 and press RED, then go onto LIVE ATHLETICS, then the Milk Cup should be live on screen two. But again I am not sure, I will have to wait and see if they are showing it at 8:15pm.

Sydney!

29 Jul 2011 17:09:42
Mata deal nears completion as Arsenal and Valencia meet on £17.5m package deal.

Is MU the only club not trying to get a quality midfielder. I'm worried, I'm starting to think that SAf isn't going to sign the CM that we NEED. Every club is trying to improve their squad, is it that we are contented with the current squad? ED any insight?

I am getting worried, but there's plenty of time left and we look good on pre-season tbh. Only time will tell, I have full faith at least 1 CM will be bought

Sanshine

Yeah we looked good in pre-season, but bare in mind that the opposition was championship quality or little above. we can win the PL however it would test our resolve to the limit and possibly cause us a scare. Better to be prepared than the later.

We usually are very well prepared for a league campaign. probably the only team that has been as well prepared as united in any premier league season has been Jose's chelsea.

we are after players but if ferguson cannot get his first or second choice he wont go for anyone else. its a game of patience and who will blink first. a lot of the time fergie gets his man

rincewind

Our midfield is not bad is it? IMHO we are just missing a leader, someone to grab games by the scruff and dictate the pace. Carrick, Fletch and Ando are not up to it and Rooney plays too far up the pitch. Wayne has had to drop deep far too often to change the initiative that we end up losing his better qualities.

Exactly, aint good enough. I cried wen we lost to barca. We need stability and creativity in the center of the pitch.

I think if u ask any proper fan then will all be relatively happy with our squad. we are well capable of wininng the league again. However i think most will agree that we simply need a worldclass midfielder to compete amongst the best in europe i.e barcelona. i cant for the life of me believe that fergie doesnt think the same. he must. and he will deliver. as always. YourBoySimba

Anxious here to Closely following the pre season, I still think only Modric or Moutinho can be the solution to our midfield Both play holding midfielder better then anyone, young, defensive with such creative passes freeing midfield partner anderson/fletcher/carrick to dominate opposing side with Rooney free flawing

Give change to anderson replace schols and
get bastian swastenager for back up plan

29 Jul 2011 16:29:31
We will not sign Nasri Sniejder or Modric I guarantee, you can slate me when the window closes.

The Transfer Muppet

29 Jul 2011 14:52:49
hey eds, Just seen a few people askin about the milkcup tonight... just wonderin is it ok to put a link on here 4 them to watch it online? Not sure if im allowed or not so i thought id ask 1st

A.S.H.W.I {Ed007's Note - Yeah, that's fine. For legal reasons we can't recommend any sites but I am more than happy to post up links that you guys send in.}

Coolio, Well the best site is p2p4u.net, it shows nearly every sporting event, cheers

Also the guy posted earlier:
United's academy squad has reached the final of the milk cup . They play Aspire of Qatar tonight. If you have Sky you can watch the game live on BBC NI channel 992, programme starts at 8.15.
Should be an enigmatic game for any stranger.

I think its on freview. bbc red button (channel 301)

29 Jul 2011 14:37:10
Guys I still do think that are midfield will be HUD enough to win the PL again.

Carrick, ando, fletcher, giggs, are all have enough quality to win the title,

Europe however, we are still able to beat most teams bar Barca with the line up.

So dont get hopes up because fergie may see it to begin to build the squad likens did with scholes, giggs, becks, neville.
Carrick is 30 though so I hope either

Shneidjer, hamsic, nasri or modric are signed.

Jay c

Quality is not an adjective I would use to describe that midfield - it has been apparent for the last three years that new blood is needed in the midfield. The only reason it's not there yet is the Glazers

Your spelling is hilarious are you sure your not a scouser

29 Jul 2011 12:52:05
i think we should sign MATA. at 20 he looks fantastic and hes going for 15mil

Mata is 23 and will probably cost £20m. He is a very good player, but is primarily a winger. We have more than enough wingers and defenders and strikers, it's central midfielders we need. One of Hamsik, Martin, Goetze or Ganso would be great for the attacking midfielder role. De Rossi, M'vila, or Sissoko would be great for the more defensive midfielder role. Hamsik and Sissoko or Martin and De Rossi would be my pairing. They would cost the same or less then WS on his own is both transfer fee and wages.
Mik

29 Jul 2011 12:32:22
Italian side Juventus are considering a move for Manchester United s 30-year-old striker Dimitar Berbatov.
Source: Insidefutbol.com

29 Jul 2011 11:38:53
Does anyone else think we should go for Podolski. would be pretty cheap as well

Why would we buy an 8th striker? More pressing issue of a centre midfielder... Also, he's cheap, because he's average. No thanks.

Podolski (in complete contrast to england players) has never been able to turn his great international form to club level, hence why bayern got rid.

We need midfielders not strikers

Rosco

29 Jul 2011 10:55:42
Manchester United are ready to end their interest in Inter Milan's Wesley Sneijder with the two clubs far apart in their valuation of the player.

Faced with this impasse, , Sir Alex Ferguson is now considering a bid for Napoli's Marek Hamsik instead. The Slovakia internationalcaptain has been the subject of the Red Devils' interest before with the Serie A club having reportedly turned down an approach last year from the Premier League champions.

The 24-year-old had a magnificent 2010/11 campaign as he helped guide his team to a third place finish scoring 11 goals from a playmaking position. His link up play with Ezequiel Lavezzi and Edinson Cavani was particularly eye-catching and it is beielieved that he could do the same with Wayne Rooney and Javier Hernandez should he make the move to Manchester.

Hamsik is valued at around £25m.

Source Fanatix Any views?
Gino

I don't beleive this article because how can we be far apart in our valuations when we haven't even made an offer yet. I don't think anything significant will happen until the squad are back in England.

Well weather we are giving up interest in signing sneijder because we can't agree a free is true or not i don't know, but i think it'd be much harder to agree a fee with napoli for hamsik as they want to keep cavani, hamisik and lavezzi fairly sure cavani has 100 mil euro buyout while hamsik's is 80 mil. i can't see it happening.. douglas costa is a more realistic target

Napoli put a price tag of 100 million euros on him at the start of the transfer window when Chelsea were rumoured to be interested. Napoli also done the same with Cavani just days later.

I've only seen Hamsik play twice and that was against Liverpool. Hardly ever touched the ball and got subbed on both occasions. I wouldn't be too happy if he was our main target - too risky

Hamsik or Ganso would be a far better deal than WS. They are both younger and despite Ganso's knee injury and operation are not so injury prone. They are younger and will only get better. WS has only one way to go and that's down. Plus he's greedy beyond reason.
Mik

29 Jul 2011 10:36:24
speaking of youth why not a cheeky bid for kyle walker, im sure we could land him for around 8million

29 Jul 2011 06:48:19
Although nothing can really be gauged by preseason but we have been already far superior to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and I would say City but they have yet to be beat but there results agaisnt a similar oposition aren't are no where near ours.

Now on to Barca see how we fair with them.

I'd like to mids similar to the Scholes Keane partnership, not quite sure thats out there tho.

Wesley is to dear we need 2 to 3 players for the 35 million quoted. two mids poss a right back.

Look at Fergies signings over 18 million and how many of them have been a success. Rooney & RIo?. Veron Berba Nani Anderson altough the jury is still out of the latter 3 poor?.

Then compare that to Ronni Vidic Evra etc all 12 Million and under and we build them into established stars.

i know for every Vidic theres been a few Djemba Djembas but I would take 3 players in the making and grow them to beat Barca, as i think even now we have enough to win the league and may be a cup.

Treble1999

Ideally instead of using 35million to buy Sneijder which I still think we will we could spend it on 2 or 3 players and probably much more wisely. If we were to sell Kuszczak, Gibson and Berbatov we would get around an extra 20 million in. We could then sign M'Vila (15-18m), Gotze (20m) and a good replacement for Berbatov. Obviously that's a bit Football Manager but that would be an ideal summer. Our lineup would be very talented, young and has various options formation and tactics wise.

Rjmanutd

Your theory is correct, your judgement is not. Nani is a great player who is trying really hard to become world class, he gets better and better every year so this will be the year to see if he makes it.

I would also like to see a young CM come in... oh wait we have, he is called anderson... then there is pobga and morrison still to come.

The point is not bringing in youth all the time, we have youth, I think what fergie wants/many fans, is a quick fix, a player who will blow us away.

I have said before I dont mind if we do or dont get this player as I dont think we will play barca next year/ I think barca will get worse from here as sanchez and fab will upset that special balance they have.

1redarmy

Pretty sure neither Nani or anderson cost 18mil, aruond 10-12 each if I remember right

Nani is not improving nowhere near world class
Game v barca meaningless at this time of season , win lose don't matter

To the guy who said Nani is not improving, have you watched him over the last 18 months? Fact is he was the best winger in the league last season. Not far off world class IMO but not quite there yet.

Rjmanutd

I too think nani has got the potential to become world class Only problem he had last year was the times he tried to fashion a chance for himself when he should've passed But I think personally with the Introduction of young and seeing the pre season we are all about to witness the true potential of nani, less stupid skills, more beating players with pace and even more assists

I do believe that Nani is improving slightly every season but he's still the most frustrating player - he can either be world class or rubbish there's no middle ground IMO no consistency in why i would tend to pick Valencia over him.
I would love to WS in a united shirt as he is a class act but wouldn't pay over the odds for him either

To Rjmanutd... have u watched all the united matches last season.. if u had u wont be vouching for him
obviously he was THE assist leader(coz of the way man Utd plays) ... but if u had really watched him play he could have added about 10-15 more assist

I think SAF is looking for a midfielder in his mid twenties, not young. We have Cleverly, Pogba, Morrison, Tunnicliffe, Anderson, who are all young, then apart from Fletcher, the rest of our midfield is over 30. What we need is a player in the mid twenties, so when Giggs, park or Carrick go, we still have some experience in the midfield.

I actually think the ideal player is Modric and not Sniejder or Nasri. I wouldn't be surprised if we move away from Sneijder and go for him

Doyley

I watch every United game I can mate and Nani wasn't just the assist leader because of a fluke he was a threat to most opponents last season not just with assists but goals aswell. I am not denying that he could have had a few more assists or picked a better option at times but he will only improve in that department. However, the point is Nani is improving and he is a better player than when we signed him.

Rjmanutd

I agree we need a central midfielder. I would prefer Gotze/Nasri. I wanted Sanchez originally but I don't want Sneijder and I don't want Modric. I would prefer more of a scorer and creator that Modric. He does create goals but doesn't score many. I would want to get more of a midfielder than Sneijder. He plays the same role as Rooney and although he does score and create goals he doesn't score or create as many as Rooney. Also he can't play behind Rooney. Hence I would prefer Nasri/Gotze. They do score and create goals and although like Wes they don't score/create as many as Rooney they don't play the same position as Rooney. The play behind next to the other centre mid. Gilly

Nani can annoy with bad judgement at times, but he's already World class. IMO Young's a bit of a waste of money. Villa was his level. Has even looked average against the Yanks when he's played. That money could have been spent on the midfield.
Mik

29 Jul 2011 00:49:10
Give beckham one more season in centre the man is pure genius could easily do a job for us. I'd love to see him back in a united shirt. Great great player.

Played well didnt he, still running around like a kid. great passer

Did anyone see sir alex say something in his ear at half time? followed by beckham laughing..
probably said something along the lines of playing like paul scholes so many beautiful long passes he made in that game

You wouldn't want beckham he's one of those mercenary types in America for the money and we all know what utd fans think about them or do you make exceptions for some people

Beckham is not a mercenary, he loves the game and all he wants to do is play football Or soccer depending where he is :) I would take him till he's 40, he's a great ambassador for English football, still a fantastic player and I reckon he's someone that could play till he's 40

Haha to the muppet who said becks is a mercenary, has he ever forced his way out of a club? NO.

He was sold buy united due to a high bid and a fall out, sold by madrid as they move players on if the right money comes in and now he is loving his time in america where im sure he wants to retire.

1redarmy

What a great shout - Becks back where he belongs pulling the strings in the centre of midfield would be AWSOME. SAF go get him

He actually left Real because he didn't feel appreciated and wanted anymore.
And after taking a look around where to go and realizing that United is no option he took the only option he had left, and that was leaving the europe.
And he really just wants to play football, why else would he play in europe every winter for free basically?
Jonny8

Don't think we need him at the club as part of the playing staff though.
Can see him coming back as an ambassador, if he is not too hooked to the sun ;-)

Good grief do you seriouly think that Beckham would even have got one touch of the ball against Barca. He can pass the ball (if given enough time) and thats about it. He cant tackle and he cant run unless its to the dressing room to check his hair in the mirror

Scholes has quit at 36, so why on Earth would we want Becks back. You have to remember that these games in America are played at a leisurely pace. just above training match level. In the Prem, let alone Europe he would be a bystander. He done us proud in his day, but that day is well past
Mik

Don't be ridiculous. That ship has long sailed. Leave him over there where he belongs counting his cash, playing with his hair and playing teams called things like quake and red bull

28 Jul 2011 23:59:21
De Rossi - £15m
Nasri - £20m
Van der Wiel - £10

sell
Berba - £15
Carrick £12.5
Obertan/ Kuszcack/ Gibson - £7.5

We need two mids as Carrick is not good enough and we need a good right back as Rafael and Fabio are not ready for the first team just yet.

I think all these transfers could happen and if they do we can beat Baca and any1 else

How is Fabio not good enough for first team. I think he played good against barca in the final. and he's played well every other game he has played in.

Jones covers right back also
fab and raph ready for sure

So you are saying that Raph the player who pushed Neville, Brown and O'Shea out of the first team is not ready for the first team??

Have to agree with the other posts. How on earth are the twins still not ready for the 1st team?
Woffsta

I have to laugh about everyone jumping on the Fabio thing and noone saying anything about Carrick being sold for 12.5 million. Hilarious. The guy is really getting it tight this summer

I didn't mean that they are not good and they are ready to play but what I meant was that it would benefit both the twins and the team if we were to sign a more experienced right back such as van der wiel/ maicon/ lahm. I think the twins would learn from them and they would be good in the team for 3-4 years and then the twins would take over.