Manchester United Rumours Archive July 29 2014

29 Jul 2014 16:15:39
Allegri has just said that after speaking to Vidal that he's happy to stay.

"Vidal will stay here and he's very happy about this," Allegri said. "I spoke with him about his fitness, we're happy he will stay with us."

Vidal has even posted a pic with the other teammates saying "ready for next season"

Trying to find a way to still be optimistic!

29 Jul 2014 17:07:05
It didn't say ready for next season only we are ready, but that could be anything, of course he will look as if he will still be with his team mates incase the deal falls through.

Wouldnt expect anything else tbh

Seem, s to me that Woody has done his business early to get a reprieve from last years debacle. I'm thinking that he won't buy anymore players, as Van Gaal is he'll bent on proving he can make a decent team with what we have right now. Shame I know as we def need a couple more big signings, but Woody has promised the earth once again and failed up to now. But people have bought the new kits already so why should he care. I know there is four weeks left and anything in football can happen. , But my piles are itching and when they itch, things turn out bad.

From crappy media sources who just want pple to read any crap and provide all other vidal rumours positive n negative from here!

The fact is bid not even been made and it doesn't matter what a manager says!

The only thing I can think of to stay positive is that how many players in the past have said they're happen and then end up leaving?

Stop whining about Woodward not signing players. Van Gaal is assessing his squad and has quite clearly stated he hasn't finished doing so. So therefore no one will be signed until Van Gaal knows who he wants. Its not that difficult to work out.

Who cares!

Seriously, I am so sick of all this.

We have a top manager who knows what he is doing. Let the man get on with his job, and then let's judge. Besides, where would have Vidal fitted in, in the LVG system? Vidal is box to box, and would have to be used in a similar role to Herrera, who I personally think is a better - or will be better - than Vidal.

I have said it for a while that LVG will look to bring in a strong DM type player, as he will look to exploit the clubs attacking talent. A player like Vidal, who likes to get forward, might not work.

Sam, so then why are we trying to sign Vidal? If you want to play a 343, you need two b2b midfielders.

{Ed008's Note - No 1 midfield has to hold like De Jong did for Holland at the World Cup, and the other Herrera does multiple roles dictating play and box to box if Vidal were to sign I think you'd see a change in tactics maybe 433 instead.

Ed, Holland use De Jong, Strootman, Blind & De Guzman in midfield. In the WC Holland played a 3412 and both De Jong and De Guzman sat behind Sneijder and were both taking in turns getting forward and both stuck a foot in. De Jong stayed back mostly agreed, but I think Herrera & Vidal would work very well in midfield as both can attack and both can get stuck in. I think LvG wants Hummels who would push up into the midfield.

{Ed008's Note - I know and did you see how the 2nd midfield next to De Jong played? De Guzman/Wijnaldum played very well in those roles dictating play aswell as joining in attacks, if LVG went with Herrera and Vidal midfield Mata would have to work very hard like Sneijder did in helping his midfield.

What do you make of the Cavani interest Ed? If MU did go for Cavani, would you think Rooney or Mata would do best in the hole?

{Ed008's Note - I only know of Chelsea interest unless another Ed has mentioned something about it, I think both players would do well playing in the hole off the 2 strikers it just comes down if the player in that position is disciplined enough week in week out, Mata has done very well in pre-season in that position so far.

29 Jul 2014 21:57:08
To be honest Syd, I am not overly convinced we are going to push the boat out to sign Vidal. Maybe some informal offer was made and that offer was rejected, so the club have decided not to get involved in a protracted transfer drama?

I wouldn't put money on the guy joining us. That is just the way I see the situation at the moment.

A Darren Fletcher quote on Ander Herrera, post the LA Galaxy match;

“I thought he was fantastic, he was full of energy and endeavour. He changed his role in the first half, he played a little deeper, then in the second half he went into a more advanced role with some great assists and he got about the pitch. I think he is going to be a fantastic player for Manchester United. Hopefully there will be more of the same from him.”

- To those who have not realised it yet, we have already seen Ander Herrera employed in advanced and deeper roles in preseason. I spent time explaining I expect to see Herrera in the deeper position described by Shappy's post, - in the event Vidal is signed. LVG it appears, has already illustrated Herrera will fit a deeper role. I also stated I would expect to see Herrera rotate between positions due to his multiple talents, - if Vidal is not signed. This seems accurate so far.

Despite the discussion of Vidal vs Herrera in the box to box role last week, one thing we should all acknowledge is that Shappy's post prior to the world cup seems to be outdated. In light of LVGs new tactics in the world cup (where 3 centre backs were introduced, ) it seems the other roles, like the midfielders, have also changed. LVG has further still modified his formation in preseason by employing 2 strikers and no wingers. The truth is that its difficult to say what LVGs long term ambitions are with regard to the formation he wishes to use. The evidence we have to go on in the last 2 months has only made the situation more difficult to predict. - At the moment i'm not even sure there is a box to box player. That may be because it is preaseason. Players are learning new roles, and gaining fitness. I have not however seen anyone bombing up and down the pitch in the games we have played so far. Personally I think we will have to wait a number of months until we get an idea.

The only thing that does seem obvious is that if we really are in for Vidal, then LVG will have an idea of how he will use both Herrera and Vidal in the midfield. He is the one in control of approving players on the signature list. If Woodward has the green light to sign Vidal, its obvious LVG will have anticipated a way to use them both.

Sam, perhaps you should read the editor's posts. We are very much in for Vidal. Whether we get him is another matter, but we want him. If you are going by what you are hearing from local journalists then know that they are not being fed any info from MU this summer.

We need vidal he is so talented he could play the holding role with ease so for a lot u thinking it'll he won't complement Herrera he can do it all in midfield and I would feel much more confident if he was in the centre of the park

Ed. Is it significant what's been said this evening by the Juventus manager? Obviously the reports United have verbal agreement are wide of the mark as that's clearly not allowed!

Thanks for your time

{Ed002's Note - It is what I said it is. There can be no verbal agreement with the player - that would be tapping up.}

What if United have an option on Vidal?

{Ed002's Note - But they don't obviously.}

I really think that this Vidal deal is a long shot and the media, having been given very little by both clubs or the player's agent is only shooting in the dark hoping to hit the right spot.

There may have been some sort of a broad verbal agreement with the player's agent before making an offer to Juventus though.

29 Jul 2014 11:23:36
Ed002; I know City have shown interest in Barkley recently but it looks unlikely this summer, have we at all?

{Ed002's Note - Whilst others have shown interest I am not aware that any interest has been shown since Mr Moyes left.}

Looks like Barkley might have signed a new 4 year deal with Everton at £65k a week

Just signed 3 year deal with everton

29 Jul 2014 10:55:52
EL M3RCURIO says Arturo Vidal has verbally Agreed to join Manchester United this summer. The Seria A champions are Set to revieve $80 mil(47.1m EUR), while United have offered The Chilean International a salary worth $18mil(10.6m) a Year.

If this is true then its time to celebrate EID :) :)

Does anyone know how reliable El Mercurio are? I've seen links to their articles a few times this summer, but I don't know how credible they are. Thanks.

About as reliable as any media outlet.

I like the way they call him ' the steering wheel '

29 Jul 2014 07:57:12
ED how realistic is the Cavani to United rumour?

Surely we have other areas to focus on before going out and buying an overly expensive striker.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know of rumours, but as has been explained, Manchester United are one of the clubs that has been interested in Cavani, and Cavani might leave Paris.}