Manchester United Rumours Archive July 02 2011

02 Jul 2011 23:31:13
Appears all over in German tabloids that B Bastian Schweinsteiger is subject of a huge bid from Man United.

02 Jul 2011 15:44:12
berbatov is staying. good times

02 Jul 2011 14:08:11
I personall think Man Utd will go for someone younger than Snjeider as the Glazers are keen on players who have a good re-sale value and with Berbatov being a prime example of how much money he has lost in value i think they would be loathe to invest in a player who would lose alot of his value in 3 years time.

As for Nasri, modric etc i think nasri is the more likely as Spurs don't need to sell as he signed a new contract wheres Nasri has a year left and if he wanted to sign for Man Utd he could dig his heels in and leave for free next summer. £20 million would be good money for him with a year left on his contract.

Can't see Wenger letting him for free next summer.

Arsenal are a selling club but it has always been dependent on wenger deciding when to seell (overmars/ petit, pires, vieira and henry all good examples)

however wenger has been stung before by 2 french players who let their contracts run down and left on a bosman, (wiltord and flamini)

so i do feel we have a good chance, and i'd rather take him than the over valued sneijder or the scottish puskas charlie adam.

02 Jul 2011 12:25:41
IMO Sneijder is not worth the money that we are all hearing, he is at his peak now and will be for a couple of seasons at most. Why pay £35 million (or whatever it is) and £200,000 for a player who may be past his peak by the end of next season. Personally I'd much rather see someone like Hazard, Willian, Pastore (expensive but he is only 22), Muller (very unlikely), Hamsik, Mata, Jovetic, Gotze, Ganso or even Dzagoev. All under 24 and all class acts that will only get better. IMO we should try to get Ganso/Gotze/Mata. All class and probably cheaper that the rest

I thought players were at their peak at 28/29 if so he has more than 5 years

Pardoe

Love to see gonso at ot brilliant reader of the game and his passes are outstanding imagine little pea getting that service from the midfield

Sneijder is 27 and is worth the money the way he played under moriniho (spelling) and he should have won the ballon'odr

'Pardoe'

All players peak at different times, Sneijder peaked during the 2009/10 season, but last season he was very ordinary. I would say keepers and defenders usually peak at 28/29, if you look at attacking players like Joe Cole, Kaka, Malouda, Ronaldinho, Ballack, Owen, Robbie Keane, Defoe, Fabiano etc etc, their careers took a turn for the worst at 28/29. You can even argue that Essien at 28 isn't the player he was.

We cannot be sure all 27/28/29 year old's will be past their best, but are they worth an £80m+ gamble?

Sydney!

Sneijder (Fee £35m) + (wages £52m) = £87m over five years, Sneijder at 32 will have no sell on value.

Nasri (Fee £20m) + (wages £26m) = £46m over five years, Nasri at 29 will have sell on value.

It's simple maths that tell us that Sneijder is not even on SAF's radar.

Sydney!

Keepers actually reach their peak around the age of 33. The majority of goalkeepers play better in their 30s like Schmeichel, Van der Sar, Seaman, Oliver Kahn. Keepers usually peak in their 30s. Theoretically speaking a keeper at the age of 35/6 would be at his peak if not starting to decline apart from the exceptional few. It depends on how lithe they are too. Van der Sar is very agile as opposed to Schmeichel who wasn't as agile so he was still world class at the age of 40.

We're not talking about keepers though we are talking about outfield players who generally peak between 27-29.

Most attacking players peak between 23-26, can anyone name me a single attacking player that peaked at 27-29?

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - Henrik Larsson}

Ed007 - I would say he peaked in 1998/99, his second season at Celtic, he was 26 then.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - His career was one big peak Sydney :-) Surely getting to the UEFA cup final in 2003 with a club like CFC was a bigger peak, or season 2000/01 when he scored 53 in 50 games throughout the season}

I agree Ed, I didn't mean attacking players peak from 23 to 26, I said attacking players usually begin to peak between 23-26. I agree he is one of very few players that have kept their peak going for many years. Perhaps Giggs & Scholes are similar? Scholes peaked around 23 and kept to that level until he was 30.

Players like Messi, Ronaldo, Villa, Torres, Rooney etc etc etc all peaked between 23-26, it's anyone's guess how long they keep it up for.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - I know what you meant Sydney, I was just half winding you up. I just wish we could find another Henke, although I wans't impressed when he went to Barca}

02 Jul 2011 11:55:57
Samir Nasri will now want to join Chelsea because of their interest as Nasri has setteled in London which will mean Luka Modric will stay at Tottenham and Wesley Sneijder will make his long-awaited move to Man Utd. If you think i am right press believable and unbelievable if you disagree

Hardly a rumour , adding two and two together and coming up with 4 isn't exactly groundbreaking.

There is hardly any proof that Nasri wants to stay at London. Sneijder has been died out. Nasri wants a secure financial future following opportunities to win silverware.

It would make sence to stay in Chelsea but I think he still could join united as he is guaranteed first team football as he is the type of player united need Chelsea have slot of options in midfield as it is... Don't want WS as he is getting that bit older united don't usually buy world class players we make them world class

Its just as logical to think Nasri would want to get out of London and join a bigger club.

'If you think i am right press believable and unbelievable if you disagree'.

Thanks for the tip. We were all struggling there for a minute :-)

02 Jul 2011 09:20:18
So Nasri is currently in Las Vegas on his holidays til tomorrow? Was he is talks with City over there? Seems like SSN got the wrong end of the stick here.

It seems United are still very much in with a chance of signing him, he could still even sign a new contract with Arsenal.

Sydney!

How did RAINFISHs sources say he was picked up at manchester airport by city reps then ??

Red Knight.

Perhaps it was Clichy that was picked up from Manchester Airport?

Sydney!

So United have a chance of signing him (with others), or he could sign a contract at Arsenal. Looks like you've covered all eventualities there Sydney. Quite brilliant

02 Jul 2011 00:38:28
I hear from a very very close friend inside OT that for the first time in a long time man utd will SELL to their rivals in D. Berbatov. Heard it here first remember my name as i only post FACTS. D.Berbatov will leave OT this summer and accept a 19 mil transfer offer from lpool and will be given the no. 19 shirt TORQS

I hear he's going to Sunderland for a Brucie Bonus.
Him & Gyan would be a nice partnership.

They don't need any other striker so i don't see it become true that speculation..

Theres BS, and then theres real BS, and this is definitely the latter

Why would Liverpool need another striker? They recently purchased Carroll and Suarez.

Lies. Liverpool owners work on the moneyball system for buying players based on stats and long term prospects. Neither of these are particularly good for berba.

Thought it may of bin obvious to all but clearly not. . . . my recent post was merely a dig at lpool with 19 titles. ie berbie signing for them for 19 mil and to be given the 19 shirt. Obviously no truth in this but apparently not clear to all . TORQS

Lol, should have posted it on the liverpool website, at least then they would have someone in their team who has at least had the experience of winning the league

Does everybody want berbatov to leave??

Bernard

Liverpool hate berbatov he scored a hatrick against them last season and then 'that' penalty so that's like saying gerrad to united, plus leave off berbatov what more can he do to win over the superficial united fans? He was great last season an I personally hope he sees out his career at united

Well said my friend, look at his stats joint top scorer last season and look at the amount of assists since he came, he brings something different to the team and I also hope he stays

Bernard

Theturdz here lifelong lfc fan funny how you lot can take the piss remember this s**theads fergie won f*** all for you when KING KENNY was in charge first time round kenny just brushed him aside now hes back look at the panic on fergies face getting the players that are linked with lfc he has bought s**te for years excluding roony and chicarito.when the king shows interest in a player fergie s**ts himself and jumps in well your welcome to jones and young not the world beaters you need to try and take on barca cos thats what fergie said he needs to do and he aint got a hope in hell with that team i could name 10 players all first team members who are s**te and you lot know it

Haha ya prob weren't even born when Liverpool last won a title what a knob you are, what bout other signings, ronaldo, van der sar, nani vidic etc.... Go back to sleep there


Bernard

Ronaldo and vidic were ready to come to liverpool but the frenchman was to slow to sign them fergie gets wind of this and swoops on them he only goes for the players we linked with the whiskey nosed **** wouldnt know talent if it hit him in the face look at rooney explodes on the scene all the pundits rave about him so fergie buys him simple as that.how many gems has fergie spotted chicarito thats all and that was on a scouts recommendation look at all the crap hes bought djemba djemba, oshea, carrick, owen, anderson, nani, berbaflop, carrol, fletcher, gibson, bebe, fabio, brown, 2nd sting the lot of them and theres more of them

Haha yeah and messi was ready to join Liverpool academy till barca came calling I can't believe ya think ronaldo and vidic were ready to come to Liverpool, haha nani a flop? He had more assists last season than any Liverpool player had goals, sayin that I think he had more goals too, and as for the Rooney thing, fergie only bought him because everyone was raving bout him, I that not a good thing, didn't hear no raving bout HAndyCAP carroll tip on back to your Liverpool page there John Joe good luck and thanks



Bernard

Oh yeah and berbaFLOP scored a hatrick against yous last season did he not?like viduka for Leeds a few years ago gettin four ha sure he's a flop too, or maybe cause king kenny wasn't round, I'd say fergie will out last kenny again wait and see

Djemba djemba has a premier league medal and gerrard has none, giggys wife is divorcing him and getting half of everything, ya no what this means lads, SHE'LL have 6 more league medals than gerrard :)


Bernard