Manchester United Rumours Archive June 02 2012

 

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02 Jun 2012 19:32:23
united's south american network has strongly recommended palmeiras left back gabriel silva. a quick and composed player with very good assist ratio. good on ball as most brazilian players. defends well.. and similar playing style of evra, but like evra's old days ( not like last 3 seasons). ed pls can u find something more on the mater.
rodio17 {Ed007's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}

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If its the player im thinking of then he is at novara right now, not palmeiras. but he is owned by udinese. dont think we will sign him.

Daniel

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02 Jun 2012 21:28:28
Axel Witsel is the one for me. Bossed that Belgium midfield this evening and got a great shot there has been rumours that Fergies been keeping a close eye on him for 2 years and was expected to make a bid this summer. Any news on this Ed? Would be a great addition. Thanks,

United4Ever.

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I know United were interested before he went Benfica, and we got put off when he did a leg breaking tackle back when he played in the Pro League, we looked at him again last year, but Benfica wanted 25+mill

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X factor Britains got talent. We play France next week, will it be Benzema etc ect, were becoming like Geordies and l, pool fans.
Thank god glazers& sir alex don't read this site! {Ed007's Note - How do you know they don't Darren?}

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Real Madrid bound, good player.

United Till I Die 1987

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Not attempting to be smart however cleverly Anderson nani on you tube look and are fantastic and they know what being part of Man Utd in this time of history is all about
Don't be fooled with fantasy football it's all about whose in charge
Abromovich venger rednapp or fergie

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Think Fellaini and Dembele did just as well tbf. To me Dembele stuck out the most in the first half then Fellaini in the second, Witsel didn't impress as much IMO. Hazard didn't shine half as well as i thought he would, guess its true about him going missing for bits in games, like last night.

Ozwald

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Witzel isn't one of those players that does step over, or dribbles much at all. What he does is keep the ball moving, always makes himself available, can play attacking midfield, defensive midfield, or box to box. I thought Fellaini, Witzel and Dembale all looked at least as good as Hazard and would love to see any of them at Old Trafford. If Belgium had a good striker or two, they would be a top side. It's crazy England are ranked 7th and Belgium 44th. By the world cup they will be a force to be reckoned with. England gave around 350 passes some 200 less then Belgium. England looked turgid and predictable (except for Oxlade-Chamberlain and Wellbeck). Belgium looked neat and have many players of 24 and under that will only improve.. Doesn't look look England will do very well in the Euros. It will be a struggle to get out of the group stages. Not very patriotic I know, but 100% honest
Mik

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02 Jun 2012 21:08:36
Crewe chronicle stating utd have agreed an initial 4m fee with Crewe with 2m in add Ons great deal looks a quality young player {Ed007's Note - That story has been around for a couple of weeks.}

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02 Jun 2012 20:48:19
firstly, when is the kagawa deal going to be finalised ? Hopefully arsenal won't hijack the deal.
Secondly, is there any more news on dembele, M'Vila,J.Martinez, snijder ?personally i quite fancy mertens from belgium, he lokked sharpe tonight, out classed hazard!
Thridly, we need to sign,
RB - Clyne ?
LB- Baines ?
CM/CDM - Dembele or Fellaine ?
CM/CDM - M'Vila or Snijder or J.Martinez
CAM -Kagawa
ST-Van Persie ;-)
RW/LW = Levezzi or Mertens
Your thoughts ?

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He did look lively, but you want us to sign a player based on seein him once, playin gInternational not club football even?
Invisible STuey

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Kagawa will be manutd player by next week.and about mertens you can judge a player for just one game.united we don't buy player like that.

ferdcoast

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If we get nobody and I mean NOBODY else I would gladly give my right testicle for martinez! not sure who would want it but still.... they can have it for martinez

Jamal {Ed007's Note - Well there is 659 million fans around the world, say two thirds are male and every guy done that...nah mate, that deal is just a load of bollocks.}

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Bebe was signed without SAF ever seeing him play

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Im sick of reading clyne's name on hear I really hope reading or Southampton sign him soon so he's never linked to us again

Dustbin

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Do i think if we did sign sneider it would help us attract rvp? {Ed007's Note - I doubt that would be a factor, have you seen Sneijder's wife?}

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Ed007 i take my hat off to you. Genius.

Ozwald {Ed002's Note - Hardly genius to use smutty language - he was abusing his authority being left in charge. Won't happen again.}

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I thought hazard looked awful last night

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"Bebe was signed without SAF ever seeing him play" - good point, and that turned out well didnt it
Invisible Stuey

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I'm bored of stupid rumours... Yea let's go sign 12 new players including sneijder and rvp... How much we gonna spend this season seriously?

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About bebe,manutd we have more than 52 football scouting all over the world.so its them who bring bebe to united.if united scout saw something from mertens,they'll look at him closely.but not from just one game.

ferdcoast

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Kagawa = cm modric =dm tiote =am marichiso= cm Leighton baines these are most likely people Manu are getting in transfer window

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7 players yea rite we will sign 2 mre players now we GT kagawa baines and Powell and we will loan Powell to a prem club to get experience

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02 Jun 2012 20:18:27
Not looking to start an argument but is there any chance of an England banter site? Like alot of readers and posters on here im not English and dont really want endless posts on here throughout da Euros.Not being smart or racist or anything but i couldnt care less.im on here to read about United.no offence.

RK16 {Ed007's Note - There is a Euros site, but you always get some talk during international games, it will be kept to a minimum though, and Utd related. Just relax and get ready for a right good laugh at England's expense mate:

football-rumours.co.uk/euro-2012.php

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Like many United fans, I sympathise with this. I am English but I can't stand the England football team. I think they are anti United. 1)England don't pay United when they take our players 2) They come back injured 3) England fans hate United players 4) The FA treat us unfairly (Rio's ban re not showing up for drugs test) 5) I can't stand many of the players: Terry, Cole, Lampard, Gerrard, Carroll etc. How could any United fan support England ? Sod em - I'll support Germany to wind up England fans ! {Ed007's Note - I'm Scottish and my family are Irish. It's not exactly a bundle a laughs for me, wind your neck in. It's a football site above all else, if you don't like it don't read it. Schadenfreude.}

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Ed007 is a bloody legend!

Jimmy

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Cheers Bond.dont mind it so much.just got to
me a bit last nite.looking forward to the Euros though.

RK16

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Reply to Ed007 - My comments are a bit tongue in cheek but I think I make some fair points ?! Nationality is irrelevant anyway. The issue is the conflict with United's best interests. Anyway Love the site :) .... any news on Pogba ? Its all gone quiet on that one.

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Reading Ed007's comments brought a song to mind 'we're on our way with Ali's army'

Puzzled {Ed007's Note - I was only 4 when that was out!!}

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02 Jun 2012 17:22:40
Apparently kagawa hasn't plate enough games to get a work permit?

Any truth on this ed

Just what I've been hearing

LUHG {Ed007's Note - No.}

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Another awful story from goal'dot'com.

Sydney!

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It doesn't matter if thats the case. Because in the middle of June we can sign him with no problems for a Work Permit because they it will not include the World Cup in which he didnt play in in the 2 year period needed to play in to get a work permit..

fearny

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If he hasn't PLATE enough games, do CUP appearances count?? Some women say he's a bit of a DISH too. I do hope MUFC FORK out for him, he can KNIFE through defences.

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Anderson? got work permit! kagawa will definitely get one

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02 Jun 2012 17:19:50
Does anyone know how much we're getting from the Chevrolet deal?

Frictiondixon

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We'll get much more for naming rights at OT. I'd go down that route - that could fund a couple of 30m players or a redevelopment of OT to 90,000 capacity. You can't turn down additional income streams - to do so is irrational, emotional and totally illogical. The commercial director should bring that back onto his agenda.

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No reanaming of Old Trafford thank you very much.
We'll do the redevelopments without the need to sell out like that.

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I don't think the club will be seeing any of this money,will goto to the leeches to pay of their debts.

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Naming rights for the stadium wouldn't work for Old Trafford, it's got too much history.

IMHO naming rights only work with new Stadia that have no identity.

You could sell the rights to Nike for £10Bn, but nobody's going to call it the Nike Arena, it is and always will be Old Trafford, or as Sir Bobby christened it, The Theatre of Dreams.

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If the naming rights are sold the it will truly hit the fan.

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02 Jun 2012 16:06:26
Eds is there any truth to these stories of late coming out about United tempting Valencia to sell Jordi Alba to us by offering Anderson and money?

I know Barcelona don't have a massive amount to spend this summer, although i know Alba has spoken of his desire to stay in spain in the past! Then there was Valencia's chairman, or manager saying that he's already sold? What's going on with him now because he's one of the best LB going at the moment and at 23 he's the perfect age..

Ozwald

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He's already said he's off to barca but clubs yet to agree deal

Dustbin

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I thought that's where he'd end up, real shame though he does look a great talent. Maybe not the strongest, or tallest for set pieces etc but none the less a very skilled footballer! Think Cissokho has got to be a closely monitored target for us!

Ozwald

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I don't think that there is truth in it, but he would be a good signing as earlier in his career he was a left winger..that would mean that we would have a left footed option for the left side if we needed. Also it would be very effective in some games, Liverpool once did it to us when they beat us 4-1 at Old Trafford, they played Aurelio at LM, and someone else at LB, it worked great. That would give us a good option and would be like having two players rolled into one.

RedDevil19

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Ozwald

Don't get your hopes up, Alba is Barca bound.

United Till I Die 1987

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02 Jun 2012 15:48:34
Afternoon Ed's

Whats the latest on Asamoah or Modric? Have a funny feeling we will miss out on Dembele to Chelsea again and with Martinez and Strootman not for sale, i'm hoping we tie one of these two up! Also whats the situation with Sahin? he wont be first choice next year a RM, will they listen to bids?

Cheers Stuey 99

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According to strootman's agent he will make a decision on his future after euros so its not dead in the water yet

sparkyred

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02 Jun 2012 15:53:16
So IF Nani leaves, then who do we replace him with? Rodriguez, Muniain, Gaitan? I would have Rodriguez over any of them.

G.A.G.U.S

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No one mentions douglas costa anymore
top young player

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I would hate to see him leave, but Muniain is the best prospect there. I would however like to see Muniain and Nani on the same team.

Percy

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Muniain
jred

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Muniain all day
DJ

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I would go for Rodriguez too. but as percy said the dream is to have Nani too..... they are both class.

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I think we should sign James Maclean from Sunderland, very good yound talent and proved himself in the premiership, with giggs going soon, he looks good to replace and wont cost a 10+ million sum ..... but i think we should break the bank to get Gareth Bale. United would make him world class,

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Bale...

Daniel

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Is someone really suggesting that James Maclean would be a good replacement for a world class winger on his day in Nani? Some people would build such an average team.

RedDevil19

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James Maclean long term prospect not short term you doughnut .... that's why I said Bale for this moment in time. We need a natural left winger if Nani goes.

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Nani is too inconsistant

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Muniain and Nani. people call him inconsistant but before his injury this year he was pure class and was playing with consistancy. With no better options out there they should be doing everything to keep him. Injury free and he will become an assist machine like Valencia. Muniain can play on wing and up front so sign him too a fantastic player.

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Would nani be such a big loss not consistant enough and a lot better players out there

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02 Jun 2012 15:43:53
Can i just offer a suggestion on Pogba. The lad has good potential but i think he's pissed at not yet breaking into the first team. Fergie did say he would get a run in the team but he's only had a few sub appearances but not enough to show what hes all about. People call him a future superstar but he's not broken into the team unlike many other future superstars such as Gotze, Hazard, M'vila, Erikson, Rodriguez, Wilshere, Ox-Chamberlain. These players all got their break early on in their careers and are now at international level whilst Pogba is still in the U-21s. Also, when you think Messi was in the first team when he was only sixteen as was Rooney when he made his debut. I for one can't wait to see Mats Daehli who could be a revelation in about two years for our midfield. I think Pogba will move on because fergie wont be happy with us attitude.

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I think he didnt get the run because he didnt sign the contract yet

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Do you think he will get more game time at Juventus? imo no
ARB

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He didn't get many games because he isn't good enough , if he was he would of played

Dustbin

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Fergie knows if there ready... Giggs Scholes,Beckham etc all better than the list of names you gave (apart from Messi)

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HE did start getting runs on the bench and was making appearances but then got injured before the end of the season.

Welsh Dragon

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I just think Sir Alex prefers to introduce young players a bit later these days rather than putting players in the first team at 17/18 i think he prefers to leave them till 19/20. I think he knows how much attention and pressure is placed on these youngsters now compared to even when Giggs came on the scene. Giggs got an awful lot of attention when he broke through but i reckon you can times that by 5 for someone of equivelant ability breaking through at United at 17 now. I think along with most people who watched Pogba in the youth team that he was good enough at 17, but i think the manager prefers them to mature a little bit first.
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How many of you have seen Dæhli in action? I feel ashamed, really, cause I´m from Norway, and doesn't know that much about him.

When United bought him from Lyn, he was the "next big thing" (and talent is rare in Norway), and was already then tipped to be the future superstar on the national team.

Would love to get a description of him, with an evaluation etc. I remembered it was the same hype when Eikrem signed.. and now he is a decent/good midfielder in Molde (Solskjær´s club).

Steffen

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I think if Pogba is still here at the start of the new season then he will get first team football, as will Will Keane. They both deserve a place on the bench.

When you look at a lot of the youth that we have that will emerge over the next couple of years you can begin to understand why the club are refusing to pay the 'silly money' that is being asked for some players.

I do think we need to secure the services of a tough, holding midfielder though. Ryan Tunnicliffe will be ready soon but until then....

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02 Jun 2012 14:15:16
NANI......understand he is inconsistent and all but from the fact that hazard/hulk/marin all heading to chelsea and robben being the only one available in the transfer window who is better than NANI...it would be unwise to sell him...
hoping he stays.....

RN
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Didn't Robben just sign a new long-term deal with Bayern? So he would be unavailable. I would say that Robben is far more greedy and inconsistent than Nani anyway. I would take Nani over Robben every time.

Sydney!

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People are still missing the point with Nani. He can NOT play on the left and he is not better than Valencia.

We can get a very good fee for Nani and replace him with someone that will give us more balance.

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Couldn't agree more no name, but we do need to buy that left footed, left winger before we part with Nani. We will be a weaker team without Nani next season if we do not replace him.

Sydney!

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For everyone who seem to be happy to sign-off on Nani and wish him to another club I couldn't disagree with you more. Excellent player with the kind of flair that Utd need to hold onto. Balance, workrate, consistency are all nothing without skill and flair. Old Trafford still demands to be entertained so players who can excite and quicken the blood are vital.

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Fully agree Sydney, I was working on the assumption that if we sell Nani we would have already bought a quality left sided/footed winger.

I can't remember a game since December where I actually thought Nani was putting in a decent performance. He has improved at tracking back when we lose the ball but that is the only thing that has improved.

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Fans complain that we have few flair players, but 30 -40% are wishing Nani to leave! So we get 30 m for him and have to look for another flair player (as long as the Glazers free up the cash of course!). It is in the nature of flair players to be inconsistent, even Ronaldo was unpredictable at time. Sir Ryan was dogged by fans calling him inconsistent in his left wing peak days. I think you keep your quality players. Over the last 3 years Nani outscores and out assists Valencia. Valencia is excellent, but is very one footed and can only beat a player on the outside. Personally I think Valencia is terrific as a wing back strong and resolute. With Valencia as an attacking right back and Nani as a floating right winger, our right hand side would terrify defenses. It really is midfield that needs strengthening. Kagawa, assuming he arrives, can play wide on the left, or in the hole. we need a box to box midfielder Witsel, or Strootman, both as happy in attack as they are in defense. Young Powell is one for the future -Kagawa, Powell and Witsel/Strootman =35 - 40 million. Then a left back! I think Alba will go to Barcelona, so I'd go for Cissoko or Izzagaure. Altogether that's about 50 million, or there about. So the Glazers would only need to cough up 30 million they would have coughed up for Hazard, to add to the 20m we should raise on sales.Kagawa, Witsel or Strootman, Cissoko and maybe Clyne would be a great close season. maybe no "Marquee" player, but the strength of the team and squad would be improved beyond what one fancy Dan would bring us. We should keep Nani, our very own fancy Dan
Mik

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Totally agree with mik, nani is class. why sell when he can skin almost anyone. fair enough he doesn't do it all the time but he is the man i would have on the right, and as mik said valencia just behind him... nano shouldn't be doubted haters.

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I have to agree with Mik, i think we'd be worse off if we were to sell Nani and i think Nani's comments are just negotiation tactics. People are shouting for us to sign Rodriguez or Gaitain because they look good in the Portugese league, im sure they are good players but ask yourself how good Nani would look in that league? He'd tear them apart! Admitidly he can be inconsistent but apart from messi and ronaldo pretty much every flare player is, and id definatley rather Nani than Robben, and also Nani historically doesn't miss many games through injury, the second half of this season has been unusual for him to miss so much action.
Andy B

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Nani has 10 goals and 12 assists for United this season in 40 games, a goal or assist every 2 games. James Rodriguez has 17 goals and 3 assists in 33 games or Gaitan has 3 goals and 5 assists in 32 games. Nani is in the best ranked league in the world whereas the other two possabilities are in the 5th best league, I know who I would rather have out the three

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No player is UNAVAILABLE at the right price, but are you really saying the players heading to CHelsea and Robben are the only quality players in the world on the same level as Nani? Gotze, Munain, Pastore, Moura, Costa, Ozil are just a few players with as much talent as Nani, some unproven, some without consistency but I am sure there are loads of great players about if we would so wish to replace the player, Im sure we will see this in the Euros, people are jus tgettin ghung up on Hazard going to Chelsea and possibly Hulk too. I do agree with one of Miks statements though. Us fans cry out for a flair player, that can do something different and Nani is perhaps the only player in the team capable of doing this now despite his inconsistency. I dont agree with Valencia playing behind him though, he can do the job but he isnt good enough defensively to play there full time. Im not really pro selling nor keeping Nani, there are good arguments for both, but to state the is nobody we can get bar Robben in this window who can play as well as Nani is simply not true.
Invisible STuey

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Stuey- Fair enough argument, but we've got Nani and he does come up with the goods, I don't have to tell you the stats because I know, you'll know them.We are in a state of transition just now, so don't you think selling Nani, one of our stronger players, just rocks the boat unnecessarily. We have positions that need changing far more urgently then out wide. We need 2 central midfielder, far more than a winger. Thats not thinking about Kagawa and a left back that we need as much. Having players like Nani, Kagawa, Valencia, Young etc mean we can save money. Money will be sparse on the ground because the Glazers!
Mik

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Agree with you Mik. Was obvious 4 years ago we needed to improve the central midfield area and baffles me we havent signed ONE central midfielder since. We have been unfortunate with injuries to Hargreaves, Anderson and even Cleverly as well as current problems with youngsters comign through like Pogba and Morrison.
I think your last statement hits the nail on the head without actually stating the big problem. We are in transition and for me THE problem is in an ideal world there needs to be a LOT of movement of players in and out, but doing it all at once isnt really viable. Last season Hargreaves, Van Der Sar and Neville, Gibson. Already this summer Kusack and Owen, and next summer undoubtely Scholes and Giggs. That is a fair few players with LOTS of experience already and you could add possibly Berbatov, Park, Macheda, Nani, Anderson, Evra and due to health Fletcher possibly to that list. Even concerns over Ferdinand as well. In my opinion Evans and Carrick have had good seasons but neither of them should be starting so many games for the club. That is a hell of a lot of players to replace. We do supposedly have some great yougnsters up and coming like Tunnicliffe, Dahli, Parreira, Petrucci, Blackett etc but as the Morrison and Pogba scenarios have proven, there are no guarantees they will make it. So there is a strong argument that you have made that replacing Nani certainly isnt a priority at the moment. Saying that if we do play with one up front, losing Berbatov/Owen is no big deal as we still have three strikers, Pogba stays we have an extra central midfielder, Kagawa can play on the left if we are reverting not to out an out wingers. Certainly going to be an interesting summer, and intersting how we line up next season even if few purchases are made. Ironically these last 1-3 years possibly of Fergies reign could be one of hi smost important what with all the money City, Chelsea have and teams like SPurs challenging as if he gets it wrong we could fall behind, if he gets things right and produces one more great team with all the youngters to coem through as well I would say it is one of if not the best performances in his managerial career.
Invisible Stuey

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What about bale and modric for Nani = some money, or they could sell nani and just pay?

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02 Jun 2012 11:54:15
A lot of talk about signing a striker, and a ''big name proven goalscorer'' at that. Personally I don't see us needing it if we finalise the Kagawa deal as he would surely play off of Rooney and then with Hernandez, Welbeck, Keane as back-up that would have been enough in my eyes. This of course before Keane suffered that horrible injury... but I can't see that alone prompting Sir Alex to venture into the market, but I may be completely wrong.

Do any of the Ed's know if I'm wrong and there is any actual interest in forwards or is it all just speculation?

APC

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We may keep Berbatov yet, I don't think we will but we are going to make sure we get a fair price...if none is forthcoming then its quite possible that we will keep him.

RedDevil19

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I think your opinion has a good point. I feel however our formation won't change to much. I feel it will be the same with Kagawa coming forward and becoming advanced, like cleverly does. I feel a striker would be needed, Macheda would be good back up. I think an experienced striker would help us out. We need a striker with work rate not like berbatov. People say Lewandorski he has only played one good season. It's very difficult so we might just keep the side as it is because I can't see us being linked with anybody who proves their consistency up front.

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Lewandorski has only played 1 good season. Is he not only 22? Berbatov and Hernandez have only had 1 good season

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I do think we need to buy a new striker someone other than Rooney needs to be scoring and giving him competition. Lewandowski would be a great addition to the squad IMO, but only if we are still playing 2 at the front next season. He is still young and can only get better tbh. If not Lewandowski maybe Huntelaar as i believe he is on a free (correct me if im wrong) and he has bags of experience and a goal scoring threat.

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Will Keane has done his cruciate ligament playing for England U-19's. He won't be available for months.

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Very unrealistic, but the only guy who we need as a striker is a sole finisher. Rooney likes to play deep, no point forcing him to play striker. We need someone who stays upfront always. I think Cavani, Higuain, Llorente, Toress, Falcao & Hulk fit the bill. Any of these guys would cost a bomb. Toress & Llorente may be the cheapest with Falcao being the most expensive. Hence we come in a position where we can get one playmaker within £20M & then £50M for Hulk or Falcao. Both of them are excellent bt I think Falcao's work rate & build are much better for PL.

IBleedBlue

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02 Jun 2012 11:31:39
If we cant get Martinez which I don't think we will what do people think about javi Garcia I know he's not as good but still a quality dm ? Edds any news on him?


Dwright. {Ed002's Note - He signed a new contract at Benfica.}

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Martinez would be my first choice but I have little doubt the Glazers will be expecting SAF to get six more years out of Carrick

Red Man

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My opinion is if reports are to believed that we're challenging Barcelona for the signing of Alba why would we write off Martinez? We could afford him if the money was there for Hazard and we have De Gea could also influence a decision and Marinez has played in Spain perhaps another league would be an attractive prospect? I stuck in two mind about not hearing anything hopefully Martinez is an important target for SAF and so he's keeping it quiet? Or alternatively for the pessimistic people perhaps were not interested? Opinions?

Matt4486

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I see where your coming from the money was there for hazard but I think he was a one off in the market I think fergie will now be looking at kagawa and a few a few potential stars hope I'm wrong and he does go for someone like Martinez or m'vila


Dwright.

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02 Jun 2012 11:18:14
douglas costa 17m
nuri sahin 15m
shiniji kagawa 13m
bryan oviedo 2m
nick powell 3m
marco fabian 8m total 58m


nani 25m
andersson 7m
berbatov 6m
de laet 1m
james 1m total 40m

realistic turn around in player and only 18 m outlay

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02 Jun 2012 11:08:44
£......Nani to be used in a player + cash deal to bring in C.Marchiso from Juventus as Juve have also confirmed interest in Nani.......Ed do u have any extra info on this..? {Ed002's Note - No, sorry.}

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I heard that too could be interesting class midfielder we desperately need.

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02 Jun 2012 11:13:03
I'm just wondering, if we were to sign Dembele, where would he play? I wouldn't think he is being brought to play behind the striker as Kagawa or Rooney will? So is he going to be a central midfield convertee? I think its more likely that he will go to Chelsea though...

RedDevil19 {Ed002's Note - I spoke with someone from Fulham last night and it seems that Dembele is a possibility for Chelsea although Fulham would still like him to sign a new deal. Again Manchester United is seen as a possiblility and it is suspected that Spurs will show interest as well. His price should discourage any interest from France. I am also told that Dembele has been told that if he were to move to Chelsea or Manchester United he cannot expect to be first choiuce and to think carefully before deciding to move.}

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I see asamoah sahin or strootman being prefered to him to be honest

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02 Jun 2012 10:56:10
Ed, any news on Kovacic? Thanks

A.R {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

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If pogba leaves i think he'd be the perfect replacement as player with great potential not as been same type pf player

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02 Jun 2012 10:51:04
Ive got a couple of things I would to bring up:-

1) Do you guys think we will sell Nani? I got to be honest I am not a massive fan, too inconsistant for me and I feel that Young and Valencia are better all round players, however saying that on his day can be unplayable. If we could get 25m+ for him I would let him go.

2) There area a few targets I think would help improve us and wouldnt cost the earth.

i) M Fellaini from Everton, A big ball winning centre midfielder who can pass, tackle, score goals, big and strong and good in the air. This would give us something different to what we currently have.

ii) S Kagagwa a ball playing am he is young, good technical ability, good goalscoring stats and also bring in extra revenue.

iii) N Powell Ive watched Nick play for Crewe when they played my local team HUFC and he does look like a real prospect, not ready for first team yet but great for the future.

iv) R Lewandowski A good striker, good touch very good finisher and by what ive seen similar to Ruud. Would add competition to Rooney, Welbz and Chicarito.

v) K Strootman if we cant get fellaini

vi) A Cisokho A younger version of Evra

vii) N Clyne to provide competition to Rafa and others.

viii) Gaiten or Rodrigez to replace Nani if he is sold.

Dont get me wrong id love us to buy your Sneijders/Modric/Van Persie/Bale etc but with the glaziers in charge we are never going to spend massive money anymore. So I feel these signings with Vidic, Fletcher coming back would improve our squad with out breaking the bank.

What do you guys think?

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Agree with most of it but fellaini i dont rate i would have martinez, marchisio, strootman before him anyday

sparkyred

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I agree with alot of that, but although I rate Fellaini highly I doubt he'd be that cheap. I'd expect.we'd have to pay at least 18m for him. I think Asamoah is a more likely target. Also I would only sell Nani if we were buying a top class replacement like Hazard(who we won't be getting) or James Rodriguez(who will be hard to get if Chelsea sign Hulk). If we can't get either of these two then I think its best we keep Nani. I also wouldn't sign an out and out striker like Lewandowski, first off we can't sign every Dortmund player. And secondly if we are gonna change formation to either 433 or 4231 then we will be playing with one striker so who ever we sign would have to be happy spending most the time on the bench as they won't displace Rooney. I think it would be better to sign a left footed forward player who can play wide left or as a striker if needed, this would also give us flexibility and fluidity in our play. I'd go for either Yarmolenko or Griezmann for this role, niether would cost much and both fit our profile of the kind of players we like to sign(young with lots of potential). If we sign Oviedo, Asamoah, Kagawa and Greizmann then i'll be very happy. Add to that the usual couple of youngsters like Powell and Henriquez and then we loom set for the next few years.

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02 Jun 2012 10:29:40
Ed! Do u have any information about whether there is any truth in we signing nick powell?

Ever since one source has reported it ,it has now become the flavour to link this lad with almost every club.

Victor J. {Ed002's Note - There is certainly interest in Powell.}

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02 Jun 2012 10:12:45
Ed!

are u aware of any work permit issues with Kagawa that may hamper his signing?

Victor J. {Ed002's Note - No, there won't be.}

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But it has been reported at goal

Victor J, {Ed002's Note - Best forget about him if that is what Goal says then. I am not sure why you asked me?}

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I read he hasn't played in 75% of japans games put would prob get a work permit as a exceptional talent
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He'll be given special dispensation as he's been consistently playing in a back-to-back league winning side (bar his injury) and cup double side this year. It won't be an issue.

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02 Jun 2012 09:47:21
Just heard that Man utd will finalise the signing of Kagawa next week in a fee worth £14m and could raise to £20m depending on appearances and add ons.he will sign a 5 year contract worth 60,000 a week.
If this is true,it would be a great piece of business.

SuperRed

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Just heard?..you been away all week mate?

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Not that I didn't know about it but it will be finalised next wk,

SuperRed

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What's all this bullsh!t now about him not getting a permit because he hasn't played in 75% of japan's games within the last 3 years? Literally so pointless the way all these permits and restrictions work.

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02 Jun 2012 09:16:38
Griezmann to United Ed ? {Ed002's Note - Athletico Madrid, Athletic Bilbao, Valencia, Marseille and Lyon have shown some interest in Griezmann in the recent past and repordedly Barcelona tool a look at one time, but Bilbao are probably well placed right now.}

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How can Bilbao be well placed to sign him if they are allowed to sign Basque players only?

Have they changed the rules to allow them to sign players from outside the Basque region? {Ed007's Note - It isn't a rule as such, it is just club policy to 'favour' people from that region

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02 Jun 2012 09:06:54
According to skysports app, nani has admitted he could quit united.

Best news I've heard all season

LUHG

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One of the worlds best wingers best players even could leave us
ya great news aint it :|

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I think the thing most people feel with Nani is that when he's good, he's very good, when he's poor( which is pretty regular), he is very poor, there's just no middle ground with him, if he's having a poor game he tends to bring nothing to the team, and is frustrating in his wild efforts on goal when they're are better options available. Everyone will have their own opinion, would I be disappointed to see him go?, no, don't think so, just too inconsistent for me.

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I have to say I would be disappointed if we let nani go!I think he's an outstanding talent.he hadn't had the best of seasons but there's not many at utd who have!I don't think Young is as effective as Nani.and I think both players have the tendency to be inconsistant.but Nani was out for over 2 months last season and he still managed to score 10 goals!young got 8!he also won the players player of the season 2010-2011 season!i think Nani is extremely gifted he can score goals out of nothing when he's on
fire.I think utd would be sorry to let him go!

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02 Jun 2012 08:20:23
Hello guys first time posting here.In my opinion we don't need to sign many players this summer.Last season United started very well and the performances they gave were really promising for the rest of the season.But a lot of players like vidic got injured later and that destroyed our season ( in my opinion always).So when these players return to action and if they dont get injured again, they will be like new signings.I would just like to see kagawa,a left back and another winger (if ji sung park leaves) coming in.Our team will be very competitive.What do you think?

Sorry if my english isnt good...I'm not from England.

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Your english is a lot better than some english peoples on here!

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I totally agree with you! Don't think we will make many more midfield signings this season otherwise Scholes wouldn't have signed another year deal. Cleverly will be back after spending much time out last year injured and he is fantastic to have there!

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Your English is far superior to some of the Luddites who post on here!

In my opinion you're bang on, evolution not revolution.

I think we could really do with an athletic box to box midfielder.. But if Pogba stays then that could be his role. Maybe Fergy is keeping Scholes and Giggs going to allow Pogba, Tunners, Petrucci et al to mature. I would really like to see Martinez come in, but could only see that if a couple of mids left-maybe Park, Ando (who I rate), some youngsters on loan?

We could get left behind if we're not careful, Chelsea are making a statement in the market, Citeh will be strong and Arsenal and Tottenham will improve their squads. I'm sure Man Utd will have to make a couple more signings.

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Good shout TBH - add a couple of youngsters to your list e.g. Clyne, Powell and we would have improved both our current starting XI and our squad going forwards, without necessarily breaking the bank

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There is no bite in our midfield so a box to box midfielder is a must strootman is perfect for me will only cost around 15 million

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We need to sign a lot of players, our european performance showed that quite clearly! But in my opinion that is on of the weakest united sides for many years, we need a right back, centre back as ferdinand and evans are clearly not good enough, 2 centre mids (creativity being key) a covering wide player and a world class striker like llorente. Then we may be the side that teams used to fear.

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We should have signed a central midfielder 4 years ago, absolutely baffles me that we havent 4 years later
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Yeah I forgot to mention that we also need to buy a box to box midfielder...I also believe that guys.

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Whats wrong with evra at left back?

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02 Jun 2012 08:16:11
Been watching a lot of m'vila on YouTube looks like a class player. Edds do you reckon united could go for him or is there already interest from united? I for one would love to see him at old Trafford next season


Dwright. {Ed002's Note - Inter Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Juventus have all shown a determined interest in M'Vila and perhaps PSG will become interested as well. However, he remains there for the taking of Arsenal should they make an offer that is acceptable to Rennes.}

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You can not realistically determine how good a Player is from YouTube, all you see are there good bits

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Cheers edd, and luhg I know that but from what be seen on there he looks class would add that bit in midfield we seem to be lacking


Dwright.

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02 Jun 2012 04:13:23
can anyone shed more light on the sirgudson affair.. is he staying in swansea or planning to make a move.. if yes then is SAF interested in him.. amazing cm i suppose {Ed002's Note - He has agreed to a transfer to Swansea but nothing is finalised.}

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02 Jun 2012 02:51:57
Hi eds...
Is there any interest from Manchester united Marvin Martin of sochaux?? I personally feel he is a class act and would cost us in the region of 10 million as sochaux is relegated... {Ed002's Note - Dortmund, Lille, Lorient and Anderlecht have enquired after Marvin Martin, but Valencia, Fenerbahce and Arsenal have been most serious in the pursuit of the Socheaux player. I suspect a move in the summer is very likely.}

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Marvin Martin is going to Lille for 10 million euros.

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02 Jun 2012 02:10:51
Is Dembele really the player we need in midfield? I don't think so. Javi Martinez would be an amazing signing and I think we should spend the money we were gonna spend on Hazard on him. He would be a rock in the middle.

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02 Jun 2012 01:37:27
I have posted before of why the so many links with wide men when we have the players we have.I maybe totally wrong but other week I seen a 2 page spread from Nani abou Utd&this&that.But u know when u get that feeling its jus a cover&somethin aint right!Well now I see he well if contract talks don't work out I may have to move! There's Nani lovers but to me I've been lucky that iv been goin watchin Utd for last 23 years home&away for few seasons.Ronaldo amazing but no better site than a young Giggs close control in full flow! Nani u will never be neither!yes u will hav games were ur awesome but not enough!I watch u,u frustrate me never mind Rooney who's run 60 yards into space for to see you blast it over the bar for no reason! If we get offered silly money then goodbye!..... Let's get the centre midfield sorted but also some will rant&moan but to me the steal wud be get Torres

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I don't know about a steal, but it would be a crime if we signed Torres!

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01 Jun 2012 22:00:04
Ed02... if you are there can you confirm what bids chelsea have made for Lucas ??

saw on talks**t that inter have bid £19m and thought chelsea have already bid more......

thanks

oxred {Ed002's Note - Chelsea made a bid in January of 35M euros. Inter have recently bid around 20M euros and a part ownership deal that would see Sao Paulo benefit in the future - the deal also gave part ownership on a couple of Inter players. Chelsea have then made a 40M euro bid that was deemed unacceptable. There are some complex issues surrounding his agent, Ribeiro, who wants the player to move to Inter whilst not damaging relationships with the owners of Chelsea and Real Madrid. Putting aside any thoughts of repaid debts, Real Madrid are keen on Moura but not the price. There is a plan being hatched that I very much suspect will see Real Madrid offer Kaka as part of the deal to Sao Paulo for Moura. Ideally Sao Paulo would wait a couple of years before selling. We may see a deal struck which sees Moura loaned back to Sao Paulo for next season.}

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Thanks ED

oxred

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