Manchester United Rumours Archive May 02 2012

02 May 2012 23:37:52
Andreas pereira made his full debut last saturday against everton and he will play against stoke on the 8th for anyone who's interested.
Ste73

02 May 2012 19:15:45
Former Manchester United defender Gerard Pique, 25, tops manager Sir Alex Ferguson's shopping list as he plans to splash the cash to reel in Manchester City next season.

Would love to see Pique at the back with Vidic, and down the line, with Jones. Would he leave Barca though? And how much would he cost?

Why would he leave Barca? When do we ever resign players? The only player we would resign is Ronaldo.

RedDevil19

Pique is the best ball playing cb in the world would be great to see him wid vidic

Mark Hughes

MPez

Paul Scholes

MPez

Didnt he leave being homesick and wanting first team footy?

Pardoe

Didn't we have a clause when we sold him back that we got first refusal on him if he was sold again by barcelona

I agree with RedDevil...why would be leave Barca??

Actually, i'm pretty sure if Pique were available, Fergie would have him.
Didn't sell him for any reason other than he wanted to go. Fergie would have kept him if he could.
Not the same as offloading someone who Fergie thinks is not good enough, in which case we would not resign someone.

Bob

02 May 2012 18:05:01
hey ed's (OO2) what are the chances of signing c.ronaldo this summer ? {Ed002's Note - You would need to break out the electron microspace to see them.}

We would all want it to happen mate but we can only dream of this ever happening again

02 May 2012 15:45:14
Eds any chances of signing Modric.....he will fit well in midfield...and provide the necessary creativity

When I watch Spurs he does use the ball well, great passing, movement. He'd score more & make more chances with better players. Hang on you can argue he's got better players around him ha ha!

Whats with the modric loving on this site he doesnt score doesnt tackle him or martinez
no brainer martinez every time and probable a few mil cheaper

He hasnt been that impressive for spurs this year. certainly not in the £30m+ bracket for me

We could do better than Modric with less money. Maybe.
Either way, not sure he's the man we need.

Bob

Not for me either. Including his goal tonight against Bolton he has scored a total amount of 4 league goals this year! That is awful from one of your central attacking midfielders. I do not know why people on here keep going on and on about him. Yes his goal tonight was really good, but he is overrated and we do not need another overrated over priced Spurs player at United. So please people stop saying Modric to United, cos I won't be happy if we get him!

Red Pedro

Since When has modric play attacking mid? he's deep lying playmaker doing a job similar to what scholes does for us; keeping the team ticking over and picking out killer passes.

Although saying that 4 goals is still pretty poor, still would snap your hand off for him for 25 mil.

Gpot7

I really rate Modric tbh - he plays quite deep and although he doesnt get loads of goals and assists he does control Spurs' possession like Scholes at United and Xavi at Barca (not saying he's as good, but defo good enough)

To the noname who said Modric or Martinez no brainer...yes it is a no brainer - geth both! They would play in the heart of midfield in a 442 or 4411 or 4231. Martinez is a better version of Carrick (particularly defensively) and Modric would be a younger version of Scholes

So both Martinez and Modric would be ideal IMO. Somewhat cheaper options tho' might be M'Villa (but arrested!) and Eriksen

Gav

02 May 2012 15:56:46
It seems the right hand side of the United team is safe.

Rafael has came out recently saying he has a great understanding with Valencia. Up & down, crossing, covering each other when needed and what needs to improve will next season.

The left is looking dodgy. Rio switched to LCB because.......
Evra keeps losing the ball and strolling back, loses his man, gets beaten to easily. Nani doesn't cover him as much as Young defensively and there's no communication. Plus there right footed.

We tried a French LW Obertan. (didn't work)
We've tried Fabio & Nani both speak Portuguese (both right footed)

So how do we sort this out???
Do we buy Jordi Alba & Gaitan?
Or just Gaitan and he'll play with Fabio when he returns from a season long loan.

Do we buy Baines and try a youth prospect like Brady?
Brady is a left footed, strong, fast and more direct winger like Valencia with one hell of a shot & free-kick.

That is ridiculous.

02 May 2012 15:08:28
This may seem a little 'out there' and personally it wouldnt be my first choice scenario either but i think fergie may go for david villa.

Before you laugh, Barcelona are trying to get rid of Villa (according to Guillem Ballague), we apparently came within a whisker of signing him before so he's obviously some one fergie likes and with him being injured and unwanted he could come "cheap".

Not particularly what i want to see but seems feasable, personally ander herrera and hazard for me but im in fantasy land.

Gpot7

He could be decent as our 'striker with experience we need' He's only 30 so we could get a couple of good years our of him if we can get him on the cheap. Would also mean we would have a bit more to spend on the rest of the team. It does actually seem pretty feasable.

Sanshine

Well I would take an in form Villa over any striker in the world.
Assuming be comes in cheap(cheap for Villa would be 15-16 million) I would personally fly him from Barcelona to Manchester.

MUMBAI_BOY

Anyone that says we shouldn't sign Villa clearly doesn't understand football - like Mumbai boy said - on form he is without doubt the best finisher in european football. I can't see United signing him though.....

Remains to be seen if he can recover from that injury though.

Personally I'd prefer Huntelaar or Raul. Mainly because I feel Villa doesn't hv the physical build suited to PL. The tackles here are much worse & considering he is already fragile, it would be a bit of a gamble. Bt never the less I wouldn't mind him. Class at the end of the day..

IBleedBlue

02 May 2012 14:00:03
I think that a lot of people want Hazard and a big name striker, but i think that it depends on who we bring in, i.e. we get a top striker or a top attacking midfielder. For me it makes more sense to get someone like van Persie than someone like Kagawa. But its hard to say. I certainly don't think that we would sign something like van Persie and Hazard or anything like that. But who knows. If we were to get two big players, then i think it would be sensible to look within the league and go for something like van Persie and Modric. Add to that Clyne, and a left back and we would be done to be honest.

RedDevil19

Think cm is a must buy this summer, no additions for ages

- tim the narator

RVP is 29 next year, would cost 40million+ poor idea.
Mik

RVP is 29 next year, would cost 40million+ poor idea.
Mik

Will you please stop going in about Clyne he's not gonna change a thing about our squad let alone first team

Van Persie wouldn't be £40 million, he would be closer to £25 as he only as one year left on his deal.

RedDevil19

02 May 2012 13:03:32
As much as we wish for big players at Man Utd,but i still believe there are still certain players not big but will be cheaper and very good becoming bigger at United and maybe one/two big star players like Mesut Ozil and Higuain ....,and then players like Fellaine,Baines and Barkley of Everton.....,Nathaniel Clyne of Palace....,

Mesut ozil, very much overated, higuain yeah, others worse than what there is now.

I agree to a degree, although i'm hoping that we will get either Modric/Martinez. I'd like Clyne to come in, Butland, probably Izaguirre. And i'd also like van Persie to come in. He is actually the most likely striker to come in i think (in terms of 'bignames').

RedDevil19

Ozil is not overrated if anything he's underrated, pure class on the ball, composed and has a sublime final pass in his locker! but theres no way i can see him leaving, unless mourinho briings him with him :P

Gpot7

02 May 2012 12:47:15
Arsenal fan here,

As much as i can't stand Manchester United (I'm not here to pick a fight so relax), I think that regardless of wages, Wesley Sneijder is the man you need.
You guys are lacking creativity down the middle and a world class CAM is what will make you unstoppable.
Gotze and Eriksen are also good options, but i've always feared the thought of Sneijder moving to United.

Cheers,

Nick.

WELL SAID NICK,FAIR PLAY

Dont actually disagree with you nick but our problems go deeper than needing one player..As for hating us. Why? I think its more envy..Just as we envied Liverpool all those years ago...Its the sad face of football.

No im positive its not envy, you're fans (most of them) annoy me.

They are usually cocky and have no idea of what they're talking about, as they are usually band-wagon supporters.

I admire the success you have but most of the Manchester Utd fans i know (and i know a lot) are just band-wagon supporters who get cocky about s**t they don't even know.

I'm sure the people on this site aren't, as they must know what they're talking about to go on a site like this, but you know what i mean.

Nick.

Well Nick, just a few years ago I would have said the same about Arsenal fans...Very cocky etc especially when you won the league at OT. But since youve been unsuccessful, most gooners have gone quiet. I know, my son is one!!
Then it was Chelsea, now its City..They get to the top and all of a sudden they have loads more supporters...We know who the plastics are and it isnt just United. Chelsea and City have a fair few themselves...Fortunately I dont hate any club or their supporters, though the scousers come close...I just support United, what the others do is of no consequence to me..Hence you wont see my name on any other clubs boards...Danny

02 May 2012 11:50:30
Should European clubs all get together and cap players wages to a certain budget that the club can income.

Say from every 15yr old at each club in Europe from now on should be in either 1-2 or 3 category wage limit when they actuall y break into the first team.
(remember this will be from 15yrs old to say when they sign pro contracts 18yrs. Offer them a wage you think they are worth under 10k)
No.1 Young first team squad player 10k or under a week.
No.2 Regular first XI 20k a week.
No.3 10 International caps 30k a week.

Obviously you can pay a bonus of 5k MoM, 5k Win, 2k sub app, 2k Clean sheet as a team, 2k a goal as a team.
(the whole XI would break their back to not concede and to score as a team for extra money, or even be itching to get off the bench.

Plus players would earn their own endorsement money, 10% of signing on fee, and book sales and so on, tv pundit appearance ect.
Football would be so much better cause players wouldnt be millionaire premadonnas anymore. Ticket prices, football kits will come down in price due to this.

I know a footballers career is short ave age 33/37?
In the real world us fans that dream of playing retire at 65/70. Why can't they open a sports store, work as a mechanic, on the till at a superstore ect. Or even coach grass roots, scout or even manage a football team.

If I was a parent of a 15yr old at say Villa or Everton.
Or even the next Paul Scholes at 15yrs old coming through
at one of these clubs and was told I'd only ever earn between 10 to 30k a wk plus bonuses I'm sure I'd say
BRING IT ON!

Now time to stop this silly over priced player business.

1) 10m or under

2) over 10 int. Caps 20m or under

3) world class bracket 50m or under easy.
Added bonus if this would class player wins trophies or scores certain amounts of goals or assists or clean sheets depending on positions.

The footballing world would be a better place I'd say.

The better they play the more money they'd earn. Could u imagine the despair in the the faces of the players that are 4-0 up then concede 4-1 in inj time. Each players lost a potential 2k bonus each. Come on FA, FIFA, Prat-ini make this happen.

This could also lead to rift between players and tension in the dressing room.

Suppose you are 4-0 up by 90 mins and a defenders error costs them a goal, its 4-1.....the entire team turns up against that player.

MUMBAI_BOY

Price/wage controls never work.

Why stop there - let's limit you salary to a maximum.

02 May 2012 10:34:08
SAF and David Gill have stated many times that the Glazers are good for United. I'm afraid to say, that is complete bulls**t! They have taken well over 500m out of the club since 2005 just on debt repayments alone.

Success has led to apathy within our support. You would have to be blind not to see that United's squad has diminshed in quality.

Going out to Palace and a very poor Liverpool on their bogey ground, Anfield, in domestic cups, and going out in the weakest CL group just proves that the last 4 games are not just a blip in form.

It is unthinkable that a United side of the past 20 years would not muster one attempt on goal against Sugar Daddy City on Monday. We were so negative it was embarrasing, but that just goes to show what SAF is working with, although i think some of his player choices were highly questionable. He set-up hoping to keep a clean sheet...that is not the United of old, and not the style I want to see!

The one good thing that may result if we lose out to City is that it might wake up supporters to see what's really going on at our club. The Glazers will be exposed, and that will be amplified by losing out to Mansour's play thing just down the road.

Let me be clear. I absolutely hate a sugar daddy at OT. I just don't see the point of winning anything with this type of financial doping. It is grossly unfair on proper clubs who are trying to develop their squads through good scouting, and devlopment of youth. There is no acheivement. Chelsea and City could buy major prizes this year, and that is depressing for football, but that's only my view!

I also don't begrudge City supporters, as they have taken enough stick off of us over the years, but it appears that most supporters don't care how success comes even though IMO, it is meaningless!

All I want is that our spend reflects our vast income and we buy proven quality players, not players with "potential", or bonds or land, or any other crap which is invested purely to enhance the value of the Glazer business asset, or how I like to refer to it, my football club!

The Glazers need to start making the investment in the squad that reflects our income, or get out of town. If you love United I believe we all have a responsibity to send an unequivicol message to the owners and make it loud and clear before its too late!

They have fans so brainwashed that, reading these pages, supporters are often looking for bargains, or sell on value, or players with potential...no f*ck that!
We should be buying the best, and we shouldn't accept anything less!

Waving silly green and gold scarves has clearly been treated with contempt, and really a bit of a joke, but probably empty seats at OT will focus their minds.

Lastly, who is developing the players we have? Has Anderson really improved, and isn't Hernandez a shadow of the player he was last year?

Why is Nani still a 1 good game in 4 player? Who is coaching Rafael on how to defend and both he and Smalling to keep with their markers, basic stuff really. Who is giving Evra a kick up the arse instilling him to stop losing concentration, and why didn't De Gea come for the cross on the 6 yard line that Kompany scored from? (VDS would have claimed that cross!)

Why was Michael Owen given a new contract?

And why is Martin Ferguson so well qualified to be our chief scout?

The Honourable Englebert Von Rantmeister

I have another question....why regurgitate stuff that we have discussed a thousand times here before just because you are annoyed we lost to City?

And also the fact that we were given a football lesson by Athletico Bilbao, home and away. And leaking 4 goals against the great Everton, it goes on and on. The Glazers are draining the life and soul out of this club

I can't see the glazers giving SAF £50 - 100 million to buy then get someone in in the next 2 years and giving them (new manager) that sort of money again!I'm readying myself for no value in the market speech again from gill and SAF.

I'm fairly sure that Andersred has stated that from the latest accounts, we have approx. £60M in cash on the books at the moment....this does not include extra profits from the next set of accouts or income from player sales this summer, etc. So you can forget major spending on players. Extra funds will have to come from Glazier's own pockets if it was needed and that's very unlikely. So i'd expect a couple of minor additions and not much more.....Kagawa for £10M plus someone else in the £15-20M bracket for instance?

RedMonkey

I give The Honourable Englebert Von Rantmeister the vote of confidence.

I totally agree Ratmeister. I made a post the day after the embarrasing defeat but eds ignored it. You have hit the nail(s) on the head(s).
The problem is, 30yrs ago, us fans watching the likes of RemiMoses, Stapleton's etc etc would have done anything for our beloved club. Nowadays I see a different type of fan at OT, similar to those coming out the wood work over at Etihad. I for one am up for the boycott of the greedy yanks who clearly dont give a s*&t about us fans, the club or the manager. However how many of the "prawn sandwich" gang will join the protest?

Yep definitely no value in market! Lol! Cabyye 4.5m Ben arfa 5 m shaquiri about 10m I think arteta 10m etc etc brace your self for more of the same BS from
Fergie n gill! Imo fergie needs to go n take
Phelan with him, mourinho in
Saj

To start the glazers have spent on average of 50 mill a season , an u blame rich clubs spending money to win stuff well guess wa united have spent 18 mill on de gea , 16 million on jones and young , 18 million on hargreaves anderson nani and carrick , 24 million on van the man , 30 million on rio and rooney, 30 mill on veron , 30 mill on berbatov thts just a little so you say we bulid a squad wen in hindsight we purchase a squad and yeah we got a few from youth evens an clevs and the odd gibson none are good enough and the last players who came through the academy who were good enough was scholes an the gang so we like all the top clubs purchase success !

DIO

What an over reaction! We won the league last yr and we're level with City and who know's, we might still win it.
The side is developing and evolving. I for one do not want to see the back of Fergie. I trust him completely 100%.

What I believe is tht its not City or Chelsea fans' fault they got cash rich owners. There is no point in cribbing abt it. It won't change things. Yes we may hv lost this year's PL bt I'm still very happy the way we are still second with an injury ridden squad. Utd was never a club tht spend huge amounts of money on buying players. So I dnt think this window would be any different. Apart from tht I agree that our youth hasn't come up the way we wanted it to. Bt I think all we can do is jst hope tht next season they'll mature very well. Blaming City & Chelsea fr money is jst stupid. I would like to hv a squad tht plays with the Utd spirit rather than the one tht plays for money..

IBleedBlue

What a great post from The Honourable Englebert Von Rantmeister.

I can't believe everyone's so content with the low standard of the current Utd team/squad.

The standard we should be aiming for is a team that is capable of beating the current football benchmark that is Barcelona.

IMO for any new player that Utd think of signing, the simple question should be asked whether he's good enough to get into the Barcelona team. If the answer is no then he shouldn't even be considered. What's the point in signing more substandard players to add to the ones we already have?

Looking at what we have already, I think two of our players might pass the test and that's Rooney and Vidic.

Just think back to the squad of '99 and how good it was to watch the amazing football they played. Now compare that to the dross we've been served up all this season.

I for one would like a team that's exciting as '99 and could beat Barcelona. Until that's in place I won't be satisfied and why should I be? Utd is the biggest club in the world and it's time we started showing it on the football pitch again.

Andrew B

You know what that statement was nothing short of outstanding. Bravo !!!!! Oh and it's MY club

Best post i"ve read for some time

I gave up myseason ticket last year for many of the reasons in your statement ,not to mention the fact the football has not been great for 3 seasons now we need to invest alot of cash and these yank,s just want to take cash and have there debt,s paid by us true fans .nice statement by the way

02 May 2012 09:38:14
What are we making of the 'massive spending' rumours this morning. I don't buy it, £100 million is far too much. We are being linked with a RB, LB, CB, CM, LW and Striker. So basically every part of the pitch. Pique would be a good signing though, not that it will happen. I also fear that we will miss out on Hazard which will be a travesty.

RedDevil19

It probably means another 50/60m spree with how much wages there annual pay packet would be. 150k a wk? What shall I by this wk a house, a private charter plane or a phantom?

I doubt it's true but pique, modric, martinez and llorente(?) would be amazing!
add to that cissokho and clyne and we'll be a real force!

JK92

01 May 2012 21:31:09
Do any of the Eds (Ed002 especially) know whether anyone is interested in Joe Allen of Swansea? Promoting Pogba and buying him would be a great step forward. People don't like the idea because he's not a huge name but watch a few Swansea games (a bit late but,we're playing them next). He's the most Scholes like player I've seen in the premier league this year. He's small, a great passer, great vision, holds possession and is a feisty little b**tard. If the opposition midfield is getting rough he has no problem doing the dirty work and getting stuck in.

Pogba, well we all know he's quality at this stage, it's just a matter of whether he stays. He could be a sensational box to box player, vision and passing of an CAM, strength of a CB and engine an engine that's a little less than Keane's. He reminds me of Bastian Schweinsteiger in many ways.

If we play Cleverley or Rooney ahead of them, then we would be brilliant. I think this would rival most teams in the league midfield wise, if cleverley can stay fit, if not we have Petrucci, who's also quality. This can be achieved with an outlay of between 5 and 10 million. Obviously we'd need a left back as well and maybe a striker, but we'd have plenty of money leftover.

Percy {Ed002's Note - I would expect Allen to remain at Swansea for next season.}

Allen & Brittain have been good for the swans. Buy him cheap then loan him to Swansea again. Scholes, Giggs, Park maybe Fletcher might not be here may 2014.
Let the lad have 38 more games in the Prem and see if he's good enough for a squad next,next season ;-). He's 22 now.
So when he's here he'll be nearly 24 a full Welsh int. Could be a player.

Pogba may have potential, but when asked to prove himself against the mighty Crystal Palace he came up very short

Pogba looks good in the reserves, playing against kids. He MAY develop into a great player, he may vanish into lower division anonymity. Cleverly, when he can stay fit, isn't all that either. The truth is we need a couple of midfielders badly, we will need to buy them both for 30 - 40 million. Marvin Martin - M'villa, that would probably cost 45 million at least, but is a maybe.Martinez and Hazard at 70-80 million no chance.
Joe Allen looks good for Swansea, but we need someone above squad player level, we need first teamers and he just isn't that.
Mik

No name

I assume you didn't see any of his more recent cameos? He was very impressive, that goes to you too Mik.

Mik

Allen is better than any midfielder in our first team and he's only 22. My bet's that he's as good as Marvin Martin with a better work ethic. I hope to see him here next season, if we do, then our midfield would be much improved.

Percy