Manchester United Rumours Archive April 30 2013

30 Apr 2013 20:37:14
Someone on here awhile ago said that the current United policy is to get players to run their contracts down so they can get them for a fairer price. Apparently we did this with Kagawa so we could get him for 12m rather than the 18-20m Dortmund would have wanted if he had more than a year left on his contract.

If this is true then what we could do is look at the players who are refusing to renew their current deals.

If that is true then i'm hopeful on deals for Lewandowski and Ronaldo being concluded. {Ed004's Note - Strootman will be going for a very fair price as well. Shappy if Ronaldo is signed along with Lewandowski then surely someone has to go such as Rooney and would you be worried like myself about the right side as Ronaldo and Bale both prefer to play out left}

30 Apr 2013 20:56:27
Ed Ronaldo is more than capable of playing on the right. He did it enough first time around. Bale would mean the right would be a concern but i'm sure if we signed either we could cope for a season. Big if though on signing either of them. {Ed004's Note - I agree that's it is a massive IF, I don't think we will sign either but I reckon a fluid front four of Ronaldo, RVP, Lewandowski and Kagawa would be very good}

30 Apr 2013 21:07:41
I wouldn't expect Ronaldo to come until next summer rather than this summer. Also if we had RvP Lewandowski and Ronaldo in one team then I would expect it would resemble something closer to a 433 type line up with them up front and three behind them, possibly Carrick Strootman and Kagawa.

I don't see the right hand side as a problem at all. Valencia will be here and if he can regain last seasons form then there is no worries, if not then Welbeck is a very good option. I see him changing more from a striker to an inside forward or AM even as i've said previously. There is currently a good artical that states as much on Bleacherreport. com. Then we also have young Zaha coming in for next season plus players such as Lingard and Januzaj coming through our academy as well. Personally i'd be more concerned with the left hand side. Where we only have a near 40yo Giggs, Kagawa who is better in the middle and a very average Young.

The way I see our summer panning out is Strootman, Lewandowski, Zaha and some young talented midfielder such as Leon Goretzka, Ross Barkley or Saleh Gomaa.

I think Jones will play more games in midfield next year then dropping back into defence the year after when Rio leaves. At which point either a youngster such as Tunnicliffe has proven themselves as a combative option in midfield or we'll sign someone such as Wanyama who has said he wants to stay at Celtic one more year. Then maybe a left back to replace Evra will sign at this point. So summer of 2014 could see maybe Wanyama and Digne maybe sign with maybe Ronaldo or a potential world class attacking player such as Viktor Fischer join up.

Would you be happy with that? Strootman, Lewandowski and Zaha this summer. With Wanyama, Digne and Ronaldo/Fischer next summer?

I'd be made uo with that. {Ed004's Note - I reckon a winger that is world class is a necessity this summer. I'd be more than happy with a left footed player such as Ozil, Rodriguez, Di Maria or Lamela as that means Kagawa can play out left cutting in with someone cutting in on the right but would Evra get enough cover in a system like that, that would be my biggest concern. Personally I'm hoping for a bit more than just Strootman and Lewandowski as first team signings this year}

You'd be happy with Ronaldo coming back almost 30 years old? Hopefully he comes this summer if not then Bale would be a smarter option as he's only going to get better and is a fair bit younger!

Ozwald

Bale would cost at least 50m where as Ronaldo next summer would be closer to 30m. regardless of cost I would prefer Ronaldo.

You have to think though at that age would Fergie really buy him as he usually buys fairly youthful players that can develop with the odd exception of RvP.

Ozwald

01 May 2013 08:01:17
Yes he would, Ronaldo is the only player Sir Alex has said he'd happily resign. Even at 30 Ronaldo will still be one of the best players in the world, he doesn't drink or smoke, he looks after his body and is a totally dedicated professional. Much like Ryan Giggs, Ronaldo at 30 would still be able to give us 5 years of top service. And if you take your mind away from the pitch for a moment then you realise what Ronaldo can being to the club from a finacial aspect though the way he would attact sponsors and how he would strengthen the image of United as the dominant force in football. Plus the mercandising. So from every angle Ronaldo returning looks like a great bit of business as long as he doesn't pick up any serious injuries between now and then.

Totally pointless comment here / question, but how do you think Valencia would react when Ronnie comes back? Ronnie will get the number 7 surely, no? It makes commercial sense to.

Well Fresh! Hopefully it would inspire Valencia to step up and regain last seasons form. I know he had that awful injury but does anyone else feel that the number 7 shirt has been too heavy for him?

An on-song Ronaldo on the left and an on-song Valencia on the right would surely worry any defence in the world particularly with RVP's movement upfront.

Adz

01 May 2013 15:38:13
I think if Ronaldo comes back it will be after next season. If Valencia has a poor season next season I would expect him to leave then as it would be two poor seasons in a row after a major injury which would indicate that he is unlikely to get back the form he had last season.

30 Apr 2013 17:43:17
Every single year we have to go through this ridiculous pantomime as the press link us with every big name player in Europe who is looking for a better contract. And Fergie will talk about the money being available if needed for the right player. Then when all the season tickets have been renewed he will start talking about being happy with his squad and our old favourite no value in the market. What about your beloved RVP I hear you ask well as Sydney will hopefully back me up We are paying Arsenal in split payments over 4 years for RVP which is great business from us and crazy from Arsenal. Not many clubs will do that with their top stars so that limits us. It has been obvious for the last 4 years that we need quality in the midfield please please please let this be the year that we buy real quality (Not Modric who only shows glimpses of genius I wan't consistently great). Nice to see Fergie talking Rooney up saying he was coming into his peek oh yeah right Fergie as you search desperately for a position for him and keep taking him off as he is getting worse and his passing just isn't up to it. On a plus point who noticed that Zaha won Championship player of the year. Unfortunately for him the first thing he will learn is how to track back to cover for Evera who has gone walk about and is just jogging back.

Cheer up mate, we just won the league.

LOL yup every year we are linked with everybody but that's hardly the clubs fault. I actually do believe we will buy at least 2 more players and we will spend to get them.

Well said kloot
Rodio17

Zaha plays on the right though doesn't he? I think he and Rafael need that telepathy that Valencia had last season.
jpem27

Agree strongly on the Zaha-Evra comment

Very well said. Agree 100%.

It's hardly like we need a load of players anyway, we've just won the league and you're going on like we didn't finish in the top 4

Dustbin

Yeah hatin on this large amount of negativity from you kloot. You've got to remember half the players in our current team are young and going to get better and better they won't just stay the same. Kagawa is going to be massive for us next season and I have a feeling Welbeck could add more goals to his game and make an impact. Zaha we know is truely gifted just got to hope he adjusts asap! Would be good to find a midfielder that can ease pressure off Carrick in that same role though.

Ozwald

Spot on and I've said it before we won't be signing anyone for the midfield SAF will give fletcher all the time he needs and will give scholes another year

The teams involved in this weeks champions league have players who have experienced loss of form/confidence at some stage of the season. their managers will all be looking to improve this summer.
Your quick to come on here with your (I told you so)comments but all major teams will be fighting for the 2 or 3 players that could make that big difference.
Your problem is like most on here signing the likes of strootman, Rodriguez Gaitan would not make a massive difference believe me Cleverley will follow the guidance and advice of sir Alex and will become a top Utd player.
If you followed any top side in Europe I guarantee you would by October singled out a player/s who don't meet your high standards, I pity whoever sits next to you at OT.
Your spoilt and your lack of respect for young Utd homegrown talents and Rooney in particular makes me understand why opposition fans sense the arrogance that exists with people like you.
We support the greatest club side bar none yet you will never be happy.
Dylan

Dylan,
Enjoyed your response, but c'mon Cleverley a top player? He can't even dislodge a 39 year old veteran! Love home grown talent - got to be better than average though

Well said Dylan!
Stevie.

We can scream and ball on this site all day long. who's coming who's going. At the end of the day nothing we say is going to sway sir Alex in his buying or selling plans. For gods sake we have just won the league with a less than average Manchester United side by all accounts. let's just see what the summer brings. If you don't like it then have a go. Untill then stop slagging of the champions. Because believe you me, if I don't like what I see, I'll be the first to kick off.

Winning the league or not anybody who is happy with the quality of football we have played this season is either easily pleased or knows nothing about football. and don't say i'm spoilt, I've been there through the dark years when we won nothing but played with a swagger, I can't remember a season where I've been to so many games and been totally bored, that isn't utd, s style.
johndenton

I fail to see how anyone can disagree with Kloots comments regarding Rooney and Evra. Rooney especially has been very poor this year. I would take £20m for him any day

Settle down, they did just win the title. they will need a young centre back for ferdinand, TWO central midfield players to add to the rotation with the two retirements, possibly three if Anderson leaves. I can see a striker being brought in but perhaps one who is an upgrade over Chicharito or Welbeck. Zaha will be useful when he finally joins up.

They totally dominated the league this year despite their weaknesses, this has been a done deal for several weeks already.

The only thing missing now is the depth to go beyond the league and take back the FA Cup and/or the Champions League.

Fergie will bring in some youth to replenish the system, but they will surely need a plus player or two to compete for one of those two recently elusive trophies.

Well said KLOOT. This nonsense happens this time, every season. Let's hope we finally reinforce in midfield this summer.

RED_SKY

Spot on. We will end up with 2 or 3 players "for the future" as kloot says, "as there's no value in the market and we are happy with the squad". And the Glazers will charge us all more for everything they can. Prove us wrong Sir Alex!

Some of the posts here are incredible. We've just won the league but you'd rather watch a team lose and play with "swagger" if that's the case perhaps try arsenal. what's next we win the cl but one of the goals looked offside so fergie out and a complete overhaul of the squad. As for Rooney not his best season but he's still only 27 and people are writing him off I just think he could be a loss but who knows but there you go after demolishing the rest of the league you can't please everyone but the level of hypocrisy on certain issues is alarming, enjoy the fact we are the best but maybe that's the problem having been spoilt with success for the last twenty odd years its not enoughfor some people but picking out dream signings isn't going to do anything unless they are signed sealed etc. John K

Johnk when youve been to as many utd games as me you can have an opinion on who I should support, otherwise go and stick your head up your a r se if you only watch utd to see them win trophys then I pity you and you obviously miss the bigger picture, I don't care if we win trophys or not I go to the games to see the team play decent attractive football which has always been the utd way until recent seasons, and for the social side of things to meet up with friends every home game who I've met and drink with for the last 41 years.
johndenton

Johndenton

Don't be so soft, as if winning trophies is not important. You'd honestly like us to play sexy football but not win anything, like Spurs have done for years? You'd get more pleasure out of that?

'Spolit' is not a nice turn of phrase but I do think it describes lots of poster's on this site.

HBadger

Hb winning trophys is nice but its not the be all and end all of following a football team, try asking stockport county or other clubs fans if they go to see them win trophys, its not the reason you follow your team if it is you support them for the wrong reasons.
johndenton

JD

I agree it's not the main reason you watch your team but United is a special case and success here is vital. Success whilst playing sexy football - all the better! Let's hope we sign a couple players that help us get the best of both worlds next season.

30 Apr 2013 16:28:38
lewandowski will be going to real Madrid, one from higuain or benzema is going to juve.

I think the way he is being repeatedly assaulted by RM players on the pitch, i'd say it's unlikely.

Sydney!

29 Apr 2013 22:16:26
Hi Ed, any interest in Stephan El Sharaawy?

Thank you. {Ed002's Note - Real Madrid, Napoli, Arsenal, PSG and Cologne who have shown an interest in El Shaarawy over the past year. Napoli, Real Madrid and Arsenal would like to strike a deal with Milan at some point but the player is happy where he is and Milan have no intention of selling. I suspect any move is very unlikely this summer.}