Manchester United Rumours Archive August 30 2013

 

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30 Aug 2013 19:39:46
Vidic has been offered new contract that virtually takes him to the end of his playing career

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30 Aug 2013 23:58:42
Reading from a website live update united are in advanced talks about the signing of fellaini and if the other rumours are to believe then it looks like Ander Herrera will come, plus the slim chance of de rossi who is a beast

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30 Aug 2013 19:10:51
Kondogbia has officially signed for Monaco.

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30 Aug 2013 16:25:09
Herrera buyout clause is a reported 36 million euros, plus we would have to pay tax on that as well so it would work out around 48 million euros. Wow

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Isn't there a rule that you only pay the tax if it's hostile? If the club agree to sell for that price there is no tax payment. I think that was the case with Martinez to Munich.

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Sorry mate your wrong 36 mil is all in that's tax and vat

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It is basically down to the selling club they can make the buying club pay it if they want to, that is to my knowledge

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Just do some business and pay it. I would rather moyes just come out and say we don't need anybody if united have no intention of buying. Stop messing about offering less if you're serious. I really like this rumour site, as sometimes it makes me laugh and sometimes it gets me buzzing, because normally you expect a couple of the rumours to come off. not looking that way at the minute

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He's not worth 20m euros let alone 30.

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Prodigal7 who is worth the money these days? Is bale worth over 80 mil? No he's not. In terms of how the market is at the moment, Herrera would be worth every penny if we met his clause. I take it you have seen a lot of him? Do you remember his contribution to totally demolishing us in the Europa league?

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Let's face it, United aren't known for their last minute wheeler dealing (Berbatov apart). We will not be signing anybody anybody can offer monkey money for top players when they know full well it won't be accepted! I'm just waiting for the famous 'Glazer' phrase, "no value in the market". Funny how all the other top clubs have had no trouble signing players. let's hope Carrick doesn't get injured.
By the way does anybody else find the whole sir Alex and Gill leaving in the same summer a bit fishy? Maybe they were pushing too hard for the Glazers to dip into their huge personal profits? Just a theory!

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What's this lad like anyways. At least we have some good kids that might break through if the club don't sign anyone.

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United aren't known for late deals under Fergie. Moyes might want to do things differently.

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I believe Son of Sir Matt and Pardoe are correct - the tax issues apparently only apply if the selling club are against the move, making it 'hostile'. We don't know Bilbao's stance for sure but the reports are that they would be happy to sell at the clause value.

The problem here I see is that he is not worth £36m Euro's but right now we're pretty desperate for a good CM. I'm almost inclined to say pay it up, but there is a chance he could flop and if he does it would be a big flop.

Still, who am I kidding? If we sign any CM for any fee I'll be doing cartwheels whoever it is, lol.

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Don't get all the negative comments about this player I'm pretty sure Barcelona have shown interest in him if cesc did leave! You Spanish playmaker with Fellani great signings

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Totally agree honey badger. He's potentially awesome from what I've seen but he could be another Kleberson, Anderson, Djemba Djemba etc. Interests dates back to when they dismantled us a fee years back, there's also interest from Barcelona & they very rarely get it wrong, especially in midfield. I say pay the money. Marca reports they won't add VAT because they have plans for the money. Let's test it. Does this mean the Fellaini chase is over?

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Eriksen has signed for Spurs and will go on loan to Utd for the season, to get experience as he won't get enough playing time at Spurs.

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Don't see him flopping, he's a younger fabregas, not quite as flashy/creative, but I think he looks more intelligent in his positioning defensively.

He may never be as good as Fabregas, but he's not to far off, and still young enough to improve. He will los hhelp get the best out of Kagawa and RVP.

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I have to be fully agree with statezz.
they are also my thoughts.

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Would definitly rather have him than fellaini

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30 Aug 2013 15:23:28
BBC report that Bale has
agreed personal terms with Real Madrid. the long transfer saga is now finally over

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Thank god for that sick of listening bt bale no way is he worth more that ronny or as good as him

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Not done yet, they still need to agree on a fee!

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Databass is right. that reports that bale has agreed terms.

NOT LEVY. he will drag it out until tomorrow night or sunday morning. and then we will see

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There was never any doubt he wouldn't agree terms because he wants to move there, that does not mean the saga is finally over Real & Spurs have got to agree terms too!

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Bale more than likely agreed terms weeks and weeks ago

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Tottenham Hotspurs have played this very very well, hold on to the player for as long as possible and strengthen, knowing that over deals may on happen due to this transfer.

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Personal terms were agreed months ago. That is why he isn't training. Nothing new.

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It will be a world record fee although it will appear lower than ronaldo's, the fee will be made public and then a silent amount will be paid to spurs! so where are these persons who claimed to be itk claiming he was coming to united?

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30 Aug 2013 13:23:34
TV Italia reporting that we've had a €12m bid for De Rossi rejected by both club and player.

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I read earlier in the summer de Rossi was wanting a move away after falling out with the manager. I'd much prefer him to Fellaini if we could pull it off.

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Sky Italia make rubbish up about united all the time to try and get to us. They seem to hate united for one reason or another and always try to make us look bad.

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Reports are the club accepted but the player doesn't want to leave Rome

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Ed Woodward is now like a headless chicken. No one knows who we will approach in the next 15 minutes.

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30 Aug 2013 12:24:35
Just read that about 10 minutes ago (12.10) Athletic Bilbao have confirmed in a press conference that Manchester United did make a €30m bid for herrera and said that he will leave if the €36m release clause is met.

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If this is true, pay the extra 6 and sign the lad.

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If this is true then its an absolute no brainer. Its not as if we will have been 'had' either paying over the odds, as it is a release clause. Ideal midfielder for us. I know YouTube always highlights a players best bits, but from what I've seen, I think he would fit in perfectly. Either we cough this one up or just expect to firefight through this season.

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Athletic chiarman Josu Urrutia confirmed on Friday that he has rebuffed a bid from David Moyes' side, who have been looking for midfield reinforcements all summer.

"There's an offer from Manchester [United] for Ander Herrera, " he told reporters. "Our club is different, it bases it self on sentiment. Our goal is not to make money. We received the proposal last night and we said that we don't negotiate for our players.

"For a player to leave, he first has to show that he wants to leave the club then deposit the clause."

Ander's release clause stands at €36m (£30.75m), and they have told the Premier League champions that they must match that figure if they want to sign the 24-year-old.

The Basque club last summer insisted that Bayern Munich pay the full clause for Javi Martinez, who eventually moved to Bavaria for €40m.

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Agree with Zanysteve.

why haggle over the 6m euro and potentially miss out.

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The way we are doing our businesses is so frustrating.

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I've have also heard that the president didn't specify who the bid was for. But said that a bid was made for one of their players, that it was 'non-negotiable' and that the player would only leave if they asked to or if the buy out clause is met. I'm guessing many people said it was Man Utd's bid for Herrera amid reports of a bid.

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I think the real problem here is that woodward, or whoever is making these bids, obviously hasn't got a clue how the whole transfer side of things works because it's becoming a sad joke now. Either that or we have no intention of actually buying any of these players and it's all just a big con. "well we tried but. ". I can just about handle the former, but if it's the latter then it's very worrying indeed. All together now. GLAZERS OUT! :-)
ps Surely Beckham could afford to buy the club! A true fan as owner. I can but dream.

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Moyes on Ander Herrera bid: "I won't disclose any names. I'll just let the clubs deal with it and we'll try and do it in a professional manner."

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Peely,

You think Beckham has £800 million+?

I think you have misjudged what the club is worth and what a footballer earns somewhat if that was a serious comment.

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I must admit I don't know much about this player. If someone would explain to me and any others who may not know of him that would be cool. Also I agree with what was said about haggling over six million euros! As a club with Micky Mouse handling transfers were not in a position to be haggling when this summer we've been made to look like clowns! Also for all the glazer bashers your living in a state or mass dilution I you think we would have spent what we have done in the past few years had the club remained a plc! I'm also a Tampa bay buccaneers fan and former Tampa resident and whilst they are not the most likeable people in the world I can assure you they did not buy the club to make it a failure! They are very professional business people and our success since they took over should at least be acknowledged if nothing else! I'm now awaiting my verbal death

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He'd be very good for us IMO. deeper lying playmaker than a Kagawa but also much better defensively. Very comfortable on the ball too. Hence Barcelona's interest. I don't think he's worth the relase clause yet but I've no doubt he will be. O understand spanish VAT laws are ridiculous, something like 50% this is probably why we have activated the release clause.

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Sorry that was supposed say, why we HAVEN'T activated his release clause.

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Can't understand why VAT is like that because that's ridiculous, but even so, the amount offered was apparently 30 mil euros. With the release clause and VAT IT would only be around 9 mil euros more. I know that's still a fair sum of money, but with Herrera's age, potential and already proven talent for Bilbao, I think we should seriously invest in this guy.
I'm trying not to sound like a plastic supporter who just wants to see the biggest signings, but I really think this is a guy who could help bring years of success

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Why oh why are we trying to buy players on the cheap. Spurs are getting all they apply for, although be funny if bale does, nt leave, that will be some debt for Mr Levy . Come Moyes and Woodward put ya money were it matters, improving squad, Is Zaha still our player, next best thing since sliced bread they said.Frustrating as hell .

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Have to agree with rock the red on the spurs situation there haha. Levy will have debt and one seriously disgruntled player. Will serve him right thinking he can out-do everybody. Real could just pull the plug. That all said I think Bale will go before Monday night.

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€36 for a 24 year old that has never played senior international football, I know the lad is good but we should be buying 1st team internationals not players that don't even make the squad!

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Well Juan Matta hardly gets into the spanish side so it is not really relevant.

Spain is currently a conveyor belt for some of the finest midfielders around and Bibao has some great players, De Marcos is also a great talent. They struggled last year with injuries and issues with their coach, bielsa and the club hierarchy are an interesting bunch to say the least, so don't judge a book by it's cover.

He is a very good player but doubt we will land him as Bilbao is one of most difficult clubs to do a deal with. {Ed044's Note - Mata has played 9 international games for Spain during 2013 so far. You must be thinking about another player.}

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Ed044

I know he gets caps now but never on the pitch in major games. Shelvey has had a few caps for England too but that does not make him a genuine midfield choice.

Don't get me wrong Mata is a great player but can't crack into the team when the likes of Busquet is an automatic choice and when fit xavi, iniesta, fabregas, silva come next.

{Ed044's Note - What you said was "Juan Matta hardly gets into the spanish side". I pointed out that was wrong as he has in the past nine months played 9 times for his country at senior level. I don't understand how you now seem to think Jonjo Shelvey (who has not played at all for England this year) is anything like a reasonable analogy. Out of the players you list - Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas and Silva - only one of those five (Iniesta) has made more appearances for Spain this year. You don't seem to have any sort of grasp of the situation at all.}

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Well you certanly made me eat my hat. Well said and what's that saying. Oh yea il think, bvefore I speak lol

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30 Aug 2013 10:11:20
Rumour has it that David Moyes is set to make a
final bid of £40million for Marouane
Fellaini and Leighton Baines . just hope he does and it should be accepted. Also they should just meet release clause of Ander Herrerer at once and stop playing pranks as there is no much time left, the guy is very good with defensive contribution, he has a large engine, can tackle very well and also has good pass rate.

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I don't see Everton budging and you right they should stop playing games in the transfer market, its as if all these low bids were meant to make them appear as if in the market when in actual fact are not going to buy anyone

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Jmshoko that is exactly fear it looks like they have taken a leaf out of arsene whingers handbook

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Why don't they just for once offer the asking price and see what happens? These people are supposed to be good at business but you'd never know it. Not this business anyway.

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Simply paying the release clause, or asking price, is not neccessarrrily (spelling?) good business. Trying to save a few million pounds makes good sense.

I think there are a lot of posters on here who think real life is the same as playing a game.

Herrera, Baines and Filliani by the end of the. Window would be great

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30 Aug 2013 00:00:26
Its been confirmed, we just got a £38m bid rejected by Everton.

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Do you know what, I'm sick of reading utd have bid rejected stories, we've eased into countless sponsorship deals without the stupid stories of how we nearly had a partnership with bloody Dunlop but no they go straight through, how about aiming a little high and spending the massive extra tv money rather than low to save a million and lose they player, first bid of 45m would probably of signed fabregas instead of offering the same amount Liverpool signed Henderson . Totally fed up with this window now

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I agree with you Dustbin. It's disheartening because it makes the club look timid and weak. The fans love the excitement of a new player and surely getting them in sooner would generate more marketing funds from new player shirts at the least so haggling for these smaller amounts seems petty! I'm sure the money is there and I'm all for negotiating hard but this is frustrating. Made even worse when you hear that Spurs are going for the likes of Erickson for a bargain £12m

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Wait till the big company's stop with the big sponsorship deals with us as there's "no value in the market" won't be long before they see what we see, a huge lack of investment. In all jobs you need to re-invest in new equipment or lose out to your competitors, if a builders got a favourite drill that's performed really well for him (giggs/scholes/etc)but is at the of its working life, he needs to replace it with a top quality one like makita (Fabregas/ozil/mata)not a black and decker DIY one (Fellani etc) as the customer ( Chevrolet/Nike, future fans etc) who sees him using cheap inadequate tools will and choose someone else who are investing in the decent quality tools (spurs/Chelsea/city etc)
So to summise, a cheap drill may work a few times, but if you want quality, pay for it and stop penny pinching.

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30 Aug 2013 08:28:04
Should have just put decent bids in for Fabregas and Modric at the start. Our dodgy midfield could have been sorted out weeks ago.

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By who. according to Everton we haven't even gone back in with another bid.
Where is the proof that we even offered 38 million?

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All clubs bid low for players its the way it works otherwise Chelsea would've £35mil for Rooney and Spurs wouldn't try and get Hernandez for a reputed $7 mil.Do Madrid look weak for not paying the Spurs asking price on bale?

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Fellaini may not be a Makita but he's not a Black & Decker either.More like a Bosch I would suggest!

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There is no truth to this. First of all Everton has not confirmed if there has been another bid and are keeping silent on it. Reading between the lines of and various statements from Martinez, it sounds like they are leaving and he is not involved in the negotiations.

United is also not confirming or denying anything and it is the media stirring it up and certain fans can't wait to slag woodward and moyes for it. Wait until tuesday morning and we can all have a rant or feel pretty good about our dealings.

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