Manchester United Rumours Archive March 30 2012

 

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30 Mar 2012 23:05:22
People here saying that mancini and aguero had a bust up..sorry, its not true, the reason mancini labelled it a silly injury was cuz aguero got it(achilles related) while playing with his son benjamin
DJ

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Appears it was reaction to a spray

Red Man

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2 different stories circulating:
1) mini bike accident with son
2) Sh!tty physio administered spray to his foot which reacted badly

either way, a bit more stress for Mancini!

Gav

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I have heard he fell down the stairs also. Mancini didn't say what it was because they want to keep it quiet, so why would anybody know?

GDS

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30 Mar 2012 21:51:14
sydney and crew , do you know the score with gaston ramirez , hes being linked with us , i have also seen his name linked with you , cheers...............lfc {Ed007's Note - I answered earlier today about him lfc.}

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Thanks ed007 , ill look down the page , cheers................lfc

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30 Mar 2012 21:19:57
Regarding the Ronaldo story, a few things people need to know is a) Sh*tty would do anything to annoy united b) they are cracking under the stress so they trying to un nerve united title focus and c) Sh*tty haven't got a proper scouting system so they look for united targets and try to hi jack them. SO take it all with a pinch of salt!

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30 Mar 2012 19:12:48
After what brian robson said about mourinho beeing able to succeed fergy, i would like to discuss the most probable of managers succeeding alex
Mourinho: upsides:definetly number one target. Best tactician and definetly one who can controle the squad and the players and be able to handle the pressure. Downside: he might leave after a couple of seasons, high salary, might need a lot of money and might install a boring style of football ( might ! )
pep guardiola: upsides: good tactician, creates an easy on the eye style of football, accoustomed to pressure and bloods youngsters. downsides: not a leader and wouldnt be able to handle the players' egos ( rooney, evra, vida....) he wasnt even able to handle eto and made a mess out of the ibra situation. Unproven with a team less formidable than barca.
David moyes: upsides: very loyal, great relashinship with the players, bloods in youngsters. downsides: no idea if he would know what to do with a bigger budget and might go the kenny dalslish road, boring style of football.
Harry redknapp: upsides: proven, awesome style of play, good transfers and bloods youngsters. downsides: is just a stop gap solution if we couldnt get our first choice targets.
Alan pardrew, brendan rodgers, paul lambert.....: great jobs with their respective teams but not enough experience.
Joachim low : upsides: great style of play and bloods in youngsters, good tactician. downside: not experience enough on club level.
Ole gunnar solskaejer( spelling ) : upsides : young and knows the club inside out, done a lot of great work with the reserves and molde. downside: unproven and inexperienced.
The other choice is promote from within : assistant manager or reserves manager or ex player....
my personal choice would be mourinho for a few years but with careful spendings ( david gills job ) until solskaejer proves his worth and gains experience. But that is a choice that must be taken next year or the year after just to see if solskaejer is able to become the manager we need ? How about ancelotti fro stop gap solution if

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You've left Jurgen Klopp, Laurent Blanc and Bert Van Marwjk off your list, these three would.be top of my list.

Shappy

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Keep getting called no name so ill put it in my msg, my name is parks, ive posted a few times. Some obvious choices there, i wouldnt be suprised if Laurent Blanc gets a mention at some point mate. He's under the radar but quietly gaining experience, well respected, liked by fergie(which i mthink will be a factor), knows the club and would command resect from players. Just a thought.

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Blanc's name was mentioned in a story about the Chelsea job a few days ago.
However, i know he has good relationship with Fergie from his time with us, even improving our defensive training during his time here so i think he is as good a candidate as any i think.
Ole has done wonders, like you said poster, with reserves and Molde and ultimately i'd love to see him take the reigns...is it too soon right now? i think you're right, it might be.
Just not sure about Mourinho's character. Great coach (success wise) but i don't like his managerial style (arrogant, lacking class at times, inflamatory, plays people off against each other) or his playing style (mostly anti football. Do not want anti football at OT.).....But he probably could win the CL for us. Given the right resources.
Moyes....i know people don't always agree with this, but i can only see one reason why we would appoint Moyes...he's a shoestring budget manager. Has proven that with limited resources he can have limited "success"...or at least no massive failures. Except his one foray into the CL. Which was a disaster if i recall. Don't see him having the sharpness of mind needed at the top, escpecially in Europe. With the ection of this season, we have been very good in Europe recently. Not sure he could cut it.

Testing times ahead for us i think. Difficult decision at the best of times, picking a United manager, but picking one to follow Fergie.....

Good luck!
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Haha! Guardiola, "downsides: not a leader and wouldnt be able to handle the players' egos ( rooney, evra, vida....)". You know he's the coach of Barcelona, only Real have more ego throughout the squad.

Ozwald

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I'd have Scholes or Giggs than them

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What about lauren blanc with ole as his number 2, or just another thought what about bringing carlos querouz(sorry about the spelling) with ole until ole gets enough experience

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David Moyes will be the next United manager He wouldn't be my first choice, but I just have a feeling that he's SAF's
mik

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Alan Pardew? Harry Rednapp? You having a laugh?

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I like tht u said mourinho teams r boring his Madrid side av scored 100 league goals more thn barca cnt be tht boring can they and also inter were top of the goals list to so to me if u score the most in league u cnt be boring

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30 Mar 2012 19:07:04
I think there is movement going on behind the scenes as that is SAF's style. Everything will be done by mid July at the latest.

I think we are going to get 5 players:

- Nathaniel Clyne
- Mateo Kovacic
- Axel Witsel
- Eden Hazard
- Erick Torres

Clyne and Kovacic will be for free, Witsel for around £15 million, Hazard for about £25 million and Torres for under £5 million. We can certainly do good business and get change out of £50 million.

UnitedForever

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Kovacic and maybe hazard doubt he'll go for 5

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Most of them are realistic, however why do you think we'd go for Axel Witsel?

Ozwald

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Lot of people think witsel is well suited to the premier league gary neville mentioned it and redknapp jnr
he'd go for about 18m hazard 30m torres 5m
and with clyne you'd have to pay developments costs not sure with kovacic
good young talented midfielder

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30 Mar 2012 18:36:40
my 3 signing in an ideal world would be claudio yacob
lucas ocampos nuri sahin all under 25 combined fee 40 m
has the ed seen ocampos play tall great physique lightning quick two footed has been linked to barca.
and if they got him then maybe tello and alacantra would be available
just my thoughts

cjwales82

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30 Mar 2012 15:44:42
Gaston Ramirez is said to be in negotiations with one Major english club at the moment according to his agent, I think from what I've heard around that possibly could be Liverpool but we have been linked to him in the past. Does anyone have any information surrounding this? is it true? Eds?

Sanshine {Ed007's Note - Discussions have now taken place between Bologna and Napoli, adding to discussions that have taken place with Juventus. Napoli are very much favourites at this time. Liverpool have not made a firm enquiry with the club, Man City have made an approach through a third party.}

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Ahh that would make sense then with what the agent is stating. Do you thing he would be mor inclined to Join napoli or Juve? With Elia leaving, I would of thought Juve would be a better destination as the competition for places would be stiff at Napoli unless someone is leaving?

Sanshine

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It's Liverpool {Ed002's Note - Napoli are seen to be best placed at this time.}

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30 Mar 2012 14:52:40
Terrible news about Stiliyan Petrov being diagnosed with Leukemia, my thoughts are with him and his family in this extremely hard time. Wish him all the luck that he gets through it, soon.

MPez

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That has really saddened me, he's a true professional, great captain and a great club player, hope he can get through this difficult time.

Sanshine

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30 Mar 2012 09:21:07
Manchester City are ready to deliver a sensational package to sign Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid this summer, can reveal.

The Premier League club are understood to be willing to match the world-record transfer fee of £80 million (€96m) that Real paid Manchester United for Ronaldo in 2009, and wages of between £400,000-a-week (€478,000) and £500,000-a-week (€598,000) to land the Portuguese icon.

Sources in both Manchester and Spain have said that there has been contact between intermediaries in recent weeks to gauge the player’s interest in returning to Manchester and the early indications from the 27-year-old's camp is that he could be open to a transfer that would send shockwaves through football.

Ronaldo's agent Jorge Mendes has become increasingly close to senior City officials over the past year.

It is understood that Abu Dhabi go-betweens floated the idea to Ronaldo last summer but the feedback from the player was that it was not the right time.

"The signs now from the Ronaldo camp are surprisingly more positive," a source close to the situation said. "The contact has taken place in the last few weeks and there is serious chatter in the corridors at the Etihad, akin to when City tried to sign Kaka from AC Milan a few years back."
sorry about the cut and paste jred

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Let's hope it turns out the same way as the Kaka deal did ;-)

still can't see him in a baby blue shirt

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New Bull$hit....
His Dream was to play for Real and i think he will win atleast 2 European Cups before even thinking to Move away from Real.

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I have maintained my opinion that he will one day be a City player. I think it could well be this summer with Aguero going the other way. If this happens then I hope the Manchester United board spend a few bob on one or two world-class talents. I do not expect the Glazers to sanction a move for Ronaldo and money-wise it would be a silly thing to do, so if we brought in a couple young, top players around the £30m mark, I wouldn't be as disappointed, but it would be hard to watch him in a blue shirt.

Sydney!

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'a source close to the situation'....ie a lazy journalist who makes stuff up.

IrishRed

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Its not even worth commenting on IMO
everyday its a new name new record fee etc bla bla bla its boring and im certain anyway that silly girl mancini will be gone by june

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Could be lazy journalist but im not sure , i think the story could have some legs.
it was reported last year that city had made enquires and i think they would love ronaldo, the numbers would make sense for madrid but could they afford to lose him.

as for ronaldo its well know he hasnt got the total love of the fans and has been boo'ed on a couple of occasions he also has a poor relationship we a few of the senior players, add to this mourhino could be moving and who knows
jred {Ed007's Note - I read the other day on a Spanish site it was Chelsea he was going to (along with Mourinho) in the summer for 115 million Euros, it just seems as if papers are needing to fill pages IMO.}

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Anyone who thinks Ronaldo loves Utd and wouldn't just go for the money is demented

Pardoe

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Pardoe

If it was anyone else I would say you're absolutely right.

But when in his entire career to date has Ronaldo ever shown that he puts money before his footballing interests?

His move to Madrid certainly wasn't money motivated on his part, and I don't recall a single story about his time at United where he was said to be demanding more money.

Ronaldo is a football man first, he just enjoys the riches that are inevitable when you are one of the best two players in the world.

More likely if he went to City it would be down to them selling him their "project" rather than the tons of cash he could make.

Call me romantic/optimistic or whatever, I just don't see him going there, certainly not while Fergie is still at Old Trafford. He still calls him boss and a father figure, can't see him disrespecting the club like that.

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'Ed007'

I do not see Chelsea paying him £400k a week, but I can see City doing that no problem. Chelsea need more than just one player, they need a lot of players and if they pay Ronaldo £400k a week, the other players will want more money. City need 2-3 players to complete their squad, Tevez, Aguero, Dzeko, Johnson and a lot of their deadwood would fund Ronaldo's, RVP, Thiago's and Martinez' salaries if they were the players they were going for. I am not convinced Chelsea will get Jose either.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - I know what you are saying Syd, I agree that City would be his likely destination but TBH I can't see him leaving Madrid this summer unless they want him out.}

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'Forilla'

Of course Money was a major factor in him joining Real Madrid. Do you seriously think he would have taken a pay-cut to join Real Madrid? The man is on nearly £400k a week. Ronaldo has NEVER said he wouldn't join City.

Sydney!

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I dont think he will move away from Madrid yet as he hasnt done what he wanted there yet but when he does move it would not surprise me at all if he went to City unfortunately.
Woffsta

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Sydney

He wouldn't have taken a pay-cut no, but he had stated many times prior to joining Madrid that he would like to play for them, long before wages were ever negotiated.

The point I made is that he wanted to join Madrid and they paid him handsomely to make the move. It wasn't a scenario whereby the player was content where he was and then had his head turned by the cash, as would be the case if he went to City.

Ronaldo doesn't have a track record of being lured by money in the same way as the Anelka's and Tevez's of football have. All of his decisions have been either professional or personal.

I might be wrong and the money they offer IS too good to turn down, but I'm just pointing out that he doesn't exactly have form for having his head turned by money

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Forilla

You are the deluded one....Ronaldo couldn't care less!
Believe me he would leave tomorrow if it meant getting 400 - 500 grand a week and a major part of the transfer fee.
He has no allegiance to Man United and never will, he's not that kind of character.
United fans on here need to get a grip going on about he would never join City.....get real!!

Simmo

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Simmo, never suggested anyone was "deluded"

As per my previous posts, I simply stated that Ronaldo doesn't have form for making money motivated decisions

Lisbon - United development/bigger stage
United - Madrid boyhood dream

If he did go to City JUST for the money then I think a lot of people would lose respect for him, not saying it won't happen, it would just be surprising

Forilla

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'no name'

I do not think he has ever had to chase money as it's always found him. We were paying him £150k a week before he left and then signed for RM. I guess he will want one more big pay day and City could offer him that either this summer or next.

Sydney!

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ED do we get any sell on cash from any deal for him because if he does move for that money could be a nice little deal for us however that would make him a traitor and would not be able to go out in the red half of manchester {Ed007's Note - There is no sell on fee/clause. You very rarely would get one on a deal involving the kind of fee Utd received for him.}

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Why do people still have such a low opinion of ronaldo, like ed said the only reason i think he would ever go to city would be for the 'challenge' as he has said on numerous occasions that he wants to keep challenging himself.

Call me deluded but i think there is a 10% chance of ronaldo going there, and that would only happen if Real forced the move.

If he did go though, i would safely say my undying love for him would be over!..unforgiveable after what we did for him and he achieved with us!

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Is it not a challange for him to help Man City become the Premier League Champions and Euopean Champions whilst earning 500 grand a week doing it?
Undying love, come on my friend get a grip!
He's a footballer....footballers dont even have to think nowadays, there agents do it all for them.
Of course he would join Man city if it suited his needs.
In my opinion he has gone backwards now anyway....rarely do you see him running full pelt at players beating them and scoring. They are all laid on a plate for him now. He's basically a centre forward but a bloody good one at that.
Plus he will be 28 soon....he's not getting any younger!

Simmo

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30 Mar 2012 15:41:29
Ronaldo was quoted last summer as saying "Money is not the most important thing" and won't join man city

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I thought I read on here before that we have something in his contract that gives us the first option should he be put up for sale an like many utd fans I have a soft spot for ronnie but he was younger when we sold him an cant imagine him to develop more in fact a move were he only moves for money would have the opposite effect surly

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All the people that say they will lose respect for ronaldo need lined up and shot.....

seriously though, how can you lose respect for a guy that is one of the best footballers on the planet, simply because he would be lured for money

thats like any one of us getting offered a double your wage pay rise, and yous are telling me yous would turn it down because you dont want to upset the people you work with or used to work with??? end of the day its his life and his families life....if he wants to move clubs to make more money fair plays is what i say.......its not like hes demanding the money is it, if thats what hes being offered its hardly his fault lol!!

get real would yous!!!!!

Robbo

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Robbo mate the guy earns millions every year an extra 100grand wouldn't really make a difference in his life

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Robbo

Your right my friend....why would you hate Ronaldo after what he did for Man United? These diots who come out with "I'll never forgive him if he goes City" need to get a grip.
Ronaldo was superb for us and he has left the club end of story.
Who cares what that lot over the way buy and spend there Arab money on. Fergie is 3-4 class players short of having a great team for next year, lets hope that he buys the right players which im sure he will.
It's all about buying the right players for our club not anything that kicks a ball that is over valued at 30 million like that load of sh*te do from Eastlands!

Simmo

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Surely under FFP they couldn't sanction such a huge move?

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First off, I agree with the dude who said that Ronaldo has never NECESSARILY shown that he is just after the money...he left for Madrid as that was his dream so get over it....sure they offered him a HUGE wage but any club wanting to buy the official best player in the world at the time would have had to pay those wages!

The rest is guesswork...so the ppl on here claiming that he is money motivted or that he is not, are just making it up, just guessing, or just trying to make out that they know Ronaldo intimately or know what he's thinking....none of you do, sorry!

Ronaldo's next move (if there is one) will be a ground breaking one in the football world. Messi is unlikely to ever move so his possible future transfer is massive news and that is the only reason ppl talk about it so much

Who cares what Ronaldo has said in interviews a year ago? Nobody can second guess him

He may stay in Madrid until he retires, or he may go to Anzi for £500k p/w, or he may come back to United cos he loves us, or he could go to City to earn huge bucks and try to win trophies with them

At the end of the day no-one knows, so dont pretend you do!

A case like Ronaldo doesnt come along very often, and probably only his best friend and mother know what he is thinking....so please dont pretend you do!

Thanks

Gav

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'Gav'

Lets think with our brains and not our hearts. Would you rather player at City in the EPL and the CL and pocket £500k a week or join Anzhi, play in a second rate league in the freezing cold with no chance of CL football? City badly want Ronaldo, Real Madrid want Aguero, Aguero wants Real Madrid. City will pay fee and wages, we won't. If Ronaldo leaves RM then City is his only real option.

Sydney!

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Syd

I dont think he would go to Russia, that wasnt my point. My point is that not one of us knows what are his motivations, so we would only be guessing

I take your point regarding Sh!tty looking like they would be the only ones who could afford/attract him....but football is rarely that straight forward

Anyway, for all we know Ronaldo will retire at Madrid. That's what I mean, we really do not know

Gav

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Ronaldo has too bigger ego to move to Real and leave without winning anything. I don't see it happening, maybe in the future but this summer? Highly unlikely..

Ozwald

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