Manchester United Rumours Archive May 30 2012

 

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30 May 2012 21:45:43
We are currently painting the Spanish embassy in Dublin and we've got to know a few of the spainish lads working there. One of them had been back home and returned today and he says that Barcelona looked to do a deal with united with a swap for vidic and fabregas with him going back there for €20m in 4 years. The only problem was vidic can't do a medical till end of July and saf won't wait this long as they have other targets and they don't want to lose out. What is now on the table is €30m for fabregas with no buy back and Rio on a free. It's seems very strange one. They've also told us that don't be surprised to see silva look for transfer to real Madrid after the euros and kompany to inter Milan as Barcelona looked at him but he wants to play in Italy. Players really have no loyalty anymore.

Irishjohn

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Kompany will never leave city. He wears their badge on his heart. One of the only players there i have ever respected

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Lol wow ive heard sum very bad rumours on this site bt this has to b the worst 1 ive heard out the lot. this 1 acutally made me laugh out loud for real.

T45

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Over here in Barcelona here myself, and in terms of their sport paper that they have over here. The main business appears to be the signing of Jordi Alba or Thiago Silva in terms of defence and the signing of Llorente or RVP as a striker, seeing how Rvp was spotted in the hotel Barca were staying at when they played Chelsea.

It appears that Dani Alves is all but set for PSG also.

I can't see Kompany moving to Italy in all honesty, I'd imagine having won the Premier League this year, he'd want to go on and win more for City.

Can't imagine why Barca would want to sell Fabregas after the grief they went through to get him. Will be interesting to see who Tito Vilanova will target now that he is in charge.

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Lol . Didn't know Spanish painters lied like that. Make sure they dont paint the wrong colours lol

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Hi I'm a gooner and know for a fact that when we sold him there was two things in his contract with Barca
1. Arsenal get first refusal to buy him back
2. Arsenal get half of the transfer fee if he's sold him to another club.

With that find the above hard to believe

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That's a brilliant drunken story , good old guiness eh

Dustbin

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They're is no way United are even entertaining selling Vidic, I'm sorry there's just not

United Till I Die 1987

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Irishjohn you bring shame on all Irish based United supporters with that pure muck.

IrishRed

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30 May 2012 21:44:21
Lots of tweets on t**tter claiming Pogba has rejected Juve and is staying with us... #fingers crossed ;)

UNITED_LEGENDS

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Get rid of the person , he's an decent reserve player nothing more , wants to go for more money then as the team get done for match fixing decides to stay, I hope it too late and he has to go to juve


Dustbin

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I hope it's true but I won't hold my breath, and I imagine after the way Hazard has been criticised by some on this site and rightly so (not because he did t choose us but because of his behaviour), IF Pogba will be viewed in the same way after his antics!

Enigma

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Pogba has conducted himself in a great manner, only time he spoke out was to speak of his desire to stay at manu. He wants more money....who doesnt?? if you were in that position what would you do? what would any of us do? money talks..I now it shouldnt be that way but hey what can one do?

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What antics exactly? Perhaps someone can explain what Pogba has done wrong exactly? Has he been in every paper saying he wants to leave? Has he been on twitter saying he wanted to join Juve? Has he told us all that he will soon make his decision only to keep us waiting? People would do well to remember that people within OT even said themselves that Pogba seemed to want to stay but was being poorly advised by an agent that is only looking for one big pay day after another. If Pogba really wants to leave for more money then he will have plenty of offers this summer as his contract is up. However, IF he decides to stay at United then lets not all jump on his back. Who would be a football player? With some fans you're damned if you do and damned if you dont. We cant expect EVERY player to have undying loyalty and love for Manchester United. Players like Giggs, Scholes, Neville etc are a rare breed.

TK-Red

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Pogba,s always played with great enthusiasm for all the Utd teams since his arrival and shown great development who we know will become a fantastic player
Give the kid a break,is agents have caused this mess and due to the mutual respect there is by player and manager the case will be solved with a positive outcome.

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TK-Red and no name. Just to confirm I want Pogba to stay, not sure he will but here's hoping. The point I was making is that we can't criticise other players for joining clubs other than ours "for the money" and then say its ok for Pogba to leave, because we didn't offer him enough money! Personally I will be gutted to see him go and agree a lot is down to his agent but he has a mind of his own and could have agreed sig. Months ago if He wanted to. He has played the game, whether we agree it's right or wrong is another matter

Enigma

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Stop blaming agents, unless he has absolutely no opinion or voice himself then he's as much to blame as his agent. Nobody can say he will bevs fantastic player yet because he's done nothing in the game so if he wanted to go to juve for the money which he did then make him carry on

Dustbin

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Oh and one last thing on the subject , you're all slating his agent but just remember who employs that agent and who can get rid of said agent in a phone call , saying he wants to stay but his agent makes him sing for juve? Come on get real

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However his agent will also have signed a contract with him, so it would be harder than a single phone call for pogba to dismiss his agent

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That contract would not make pogba do as he's told or not be allowed to tell his agent what he actually wants. Do you think he says to his agent I want to stay at man utd agent says no you're not you're off to Italy, he's a grown man no a child

Dustbin

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It's all well and good blaimg the lad over which agent he chooses but in today's game an agent is there for one thing, or maybe two, to make make as much money for themselves and their client so it doesn't matter who Pogba chooses, the circle of events are the same. All in all football is all about money, Rooney, through his agent, has previously declared his love and desire for our club, yet that didn't stop his agent threatening to talk to City in negotiations just to milk us dry of a £200k/£250k week contract, and I don't see too many fans here moaning about that. For me, once Giggs and Scholes are gone, there's only one thing those players are playing for, that's money, not loyalty!!

Langers

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Don't care any more let him go . Both him and Morrison have been a pain recently . Both think they are world beaters now . They have talent but such a big ego for kids .

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Yeah you're right because we should expect a 19 YEAR OLD to be strong enough and grown up enough to know when to get rid of his agent. You talk like agents dont really matter and yet they play such an important, if unwanted, role in football. Some of you people will criticize Pogba whether he leaves or stays. Do you sit there doing the same of Rooney who has done alot more to hold the club to ransom than Pogba has? All Pogba is after is the guarantee of first team football.

'Enigma'

Agreed mate, I'd love Pogba to stay. If we can get him to sign another contract then IMO before it is up he will have a similar affiliation to the club as someone like Evra.

TK-Red

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Pogba will be a very good player he has everything in his locker,physique,strength,ability ,great striker of the ball.up to this point he hasnt said anything to any media outlets so whats he done wrong ? maybe thats at utd,s request who knows.i would be delighted if he stays because if he carries on developing as he is he will be a world star.if people cant see that then they are jumping on the bandwagon and havent actually seen him play that much.others on here have watched him develop through the youth sides and then the reserves over the last 2 years and he is definately a very talented lad and help beat the best youth sides last year from the scousers and then chelsea.
johndenton

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I swear to god i read somewhere we had the choice to agree another year with him if we felt the need. Same scenario as the Berbatov deal. He had in his contract to sign a further year to be sold. I'm sure Fergie mentioned that about Pogba. So if that's the case keep him another season and show him how highly rated we think of him by giving him playing time.

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Pogba.....is he really all that? Someone mentioned above that he plays with great enthusisasm....seriously - I'd play with great enthusiasm if Man U asked me....doesn't mean I'd be any good!!
Where is our 'world class' midfielder?

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No Name above...

Have you ever seen Pogba play?
I'm assuming not with your "is he all that?" enquiry.

The answer is Yes, he is all that (and a bag of potato chips!).

He will be "world class", given the game time, no doubt.

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30 May 2012 18:21:40
has the ed seen yevhen konoplynka of Ukraine play saw him play against shaktar 6 months ago totally outshone douglas costa only 22 plays for dnipro he a winger /attacking midfield could be a viable purchase could be a player united could afford as big names on big salary's may be a thing of the past! just a rumour that united arsenal and chelsea are looking at him on talksport but with them buying hazard united could be favourites for him reminds me of gaitan but quicker cjwales82 {Ed002's Note - I have no recollection of him.}

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He is a very good player in his league, I believe people have some doubt if he would transfer over to the English game. I think he would, I'm not sure the last time a ukrainian came straight from their league to the UK. Usually their preference is Spain or Italy. Who knows though!

Sanshine

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30 May 2012 20:35:29
I'd just like to give you my source of knowledge before this post. Eric Steele the GK coach. Who is friends with my Uncle and his Wife have informed them on some interesting news about our transfer activity.

Kagawa as we all are coming to terms with is almost a done deal and will be completed and I certainly cannot wait to see this kid put on the Red of Manchester.

He also said that we are keen on another AM as there could be a few suprise departures this season (refused to tell me, I will find out for you guys), one target not spoken about on here is a man we looked at a few years ago. Douglas Costa, Fergie apparently has huge admiration for the Brazilian and believes he can get him for under £15 million pounds, he is a talent and would be instead of spending ridicolous money on Modric (who I dont think is worth the time of day)

fearny

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NO this about Costa is rubbish....and I PRAY we NEVER get a Brazillian here again!!

lewis.no.9

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Looks like you just got Eric the sack!

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Pls ask him if we are buying a defensive midfielder a striker and a defender thanx

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Pls ask him if we are buying a defensive midfielder a striker and a defender thanx

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Lewis whats up with the twins mate? Apart from injuries they have a lot of potential

Pardoe

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So you have contacts like Eric Steele and a former tv pundit who is a chelsea fan yet the best you can come up with is Kagawa who we all know about and then you regurgitate a name we were supposedly interested in at one stage...sounds a bit iffy to me also your Chelsea connection told ya that they were interested in Hazard but not that strongly ?? bit off there no ?

I will take your connections and predictions with a pinch of salt thanks !

Devil Dust.

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I was talking to al Pacino about name dropping the other day, that was a lie just like the original post, embarrassing isn't the word


Dustbin

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Wot bs that is.

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My cousin lives next door to Eric Steele sp will get him to verify. I believe the post above as Steele is constantly telling my cousin stuff when they chat on the driveway. I'll get the latest info from him and post on here.

Prideofmanchester

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I hope he didn't say peter schmeichel's coming back? ahahhahh

ferdcoast

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30 May 2012 20:19:22
hi Ed, i remember seeing that pique was supposed to be coming back to utd, has there been any development on that at all? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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30 May 2012 19:08:56
Is there a possibility of united going for mvilla? ive seen alot of people mention him as of late, i thought he was close to signing for arsenal? thanks tom17

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Can't see it but would be happy if it happened. Definately the type that we need and would compliment Kagawa assuming he signs.

Pip

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I hope so.... hes the type of player we need... a solid physical ball winner, especially with kagawa coming in....

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M'Vila is a United fan and would be a possible replacement for Fletcher who I can't see performing to his usual high energetic standard.

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Transfer talks apparently broke down between player and club in the deal to Arsenal as they had reportedly agreed a transfer fee. The breakdown was that M'Villa wasn't sure if he wanted to be there if Van Persie left.

And Wenger has reportedly turned his attention to Nigel De Jong to play the same role.

Would love M'Villa at the club but can't see fergie spending money on a defensive midfielder it's not his way he prefers the box-to-box type i.e fletcher,carrick etc

fearny

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I rate M'Vila, I think he's top notch. Witsel is more up SAF's street. He plays deeps for his team, but box to box for his country. No sure on price , but I would think around 20 - 25 million euros. He plays in front of Fellaine and behind Hazard for Belgium, still only 23 too
Mik

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30 May 2012 19:07:52
Rooney going to psg says man utd.com

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I am not going to humour you by going there but I am guessing it is in the 'gossip section' on the website where they report all the things the newspapers have said. If everything the newspapers say is true we will have some team!

GDS

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Its on the gossip section which talks about every reported transfer linked with the club in the papers you tit

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This made me laugh

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I'm a gooner and find this hard to believe, I know PSG have inherited some money but this would be a massive step down for Rooney. He's one of the best in the world

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30 May 2012 18:19:27
Ed002, Welcome back, have you picked up and little nuggets of info on your travels regarding United? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I am not back Syd. I will be back tomorrow but leave again on Saturday. No nuggets I can think of.}

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Ahhhh, hitting the hotel's cocktails tonight then? Whereabouts in the US are you? Travel safe and I will annoy you with some questions tomorrow ;)

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I am in Toulouse and the barman makes a passable margaurita. I am flying to Washinton DC on Saturday afternoon. I am on an 8am flight in the morning so I will be back by the time you haul your huge ass out of bed.}

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Don't mind a Margaurita here and there, prefer a bottle of Jack Daniels or Wild Turkey mind ;)

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Goes straight on the ass Syd - maybe that is your problem?}

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It's not a problem after drinking a bottle a bourbon and falling on my ass, softer landing ;)

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - And cute buns no doubt.}

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Nah, huge would be closer to the truth ;)

Ed, can I ask what the feelings regarding Pogba's situation is in your circles, is he definitely going to leave? Do you know if there are still talks taking place?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure Pogba will go Syd and as I have said many times the route cause is tainted advice. I have not spoken to anyone recently over this but in January Chelsea did consider a move for him. Clearly a talent - but I suspect one that has his head turned by some "advisors".}

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Shame, he will be a world-class player in a few years (I know it's subjective), but he will seriously be a class above the rest. I hope his advisors do not ruin his career. I hope they do not get their dirty hands on anymore of our academy players either. Do you suspect Powell is a man for man replacement?

Sydney! {Ed001's Note - Powell is nothing like Pogba, he is more of a second striker, though he can play anywhere in midfield and across the front too. I would suspect he is a long term replacement for Rooney if anything.}

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Ed picked up some chicken nuggets from the Maccy D's at the airport if that's what you're reffering to? ;)

Jules

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30 May 2012 18:31:04
united has decided to activate demba ba's release clause.. best bargain purchase it would be.. and heard that lad is happy to be the part of history.

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30 May 2012 14:55:02
I was just wondering if anyone has heard any more on the Pogba situation. Given that Juve have been implicated in the latest Italian match fixing scandal and after what happended to them in 2006, surely this would make him think twice about moving - or is it already a done deal? Eds? Anyone?

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A hell of a lot of people think Barton is a twonk and Hazard was an person tweeting all their BS. Least we know what they are thinking and what their plans were. Pogba on the other hand is very silent.
United like it that way. So up yours Juventus cause Pogba is a stayer................or is he??
Offer him the 20k it's cheaper than buying another for that position 17m on Strootman or M'Vila plus over 50k a week.

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30 May 2012 12:55:46
Eds i notice Juventus are now looking at Nainggolan as well as Asamoah. With Vidal, Marchisio, Pirlo and potentially one of these two, what kind of assurances are they giving Pogba? I get the agent is after a big payout and ultimately will have more control if Pogba ends up at Juve, but i thought playing time was a big part of this proposed move? Is it not quite as set in stone as the press make it out to be? Is this why they are in for almost every available CM?

Cheers in advance

Stuey {Ed002's Note - I don't know what assurances they have given him.}

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Nani is a keeper for no need to buy if we sell one of the best out there

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30 May 2012 12:10:15
Ed, do you think the match fixing scandal in Italy could potentially affect Pogba's decision on joining Juve?

Jules {Ed002's Note - No.}

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We don't need players who don't want to be in our team for the sake of money.our jersey its more important than anyone in this world. i used to be a big fan of pogba but now,i want him to go so we can buy someone else.

ferdcoast

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In an ideal world maybe, no player plays for the love of the shirt not even giggs and scholes

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30 May 2012 17:27:57
At least we get another season of our maestro, it's going to take SAF a long time to prepare for life without him and Giggs. Crunch time this season transfer wise.

Hoppy

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30 May 2012 17:25:54
Told you Kagawa was done 2 weeks ago ;) thats 2/2 correct from my source! :P

Anyway..... what a fantastic signing for £12 million! You can have your £35 million Hazard Chelsea!!

UNITED_LEGENDS {Ed004's Note - What was the other one you got right?}

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Theres been no confirmation of Kagawa's transfer being completed yet, nevermind two weeks ago...

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Phil Jones last year.... As I said iv'e been travelling so haven't been on for a while.... Also not me, my source! I have a friend who works for Sky sports News... only writing the commentary on some of the lower league games but hes a massive football fan (Arsenal unfortunately), and seems to get told certain things a bit earlier than when the tabloids pick up on them... Sounds like im gloating lol but im just happy the kagawa deal has come to fruition!

UNITED_LEGENDS

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30 May 2012 18:07:35
No confirmation.... however...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18262878

And I said 2 weeks ago that I had heard it was near enough a done deal!

Why do people think i would lie!? I am a die hard united fan! It's just what I heard from a good source and I thought id share the information!

UNITED_LEGENDS

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My sauce has no idea who we are going to sign...

but tastes good with chips...

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Fair play I do remember you telling us this a couple of weeks back. Not sure having a guess and saying you told us is enough to say we can believe every rumour you say, especially as the deal still isn't complete now never mind two weeks ago. Also Phil Jones was on his way to Liverpool for a medical and ended up coming to United at the last minute so would have been difficult to get any info.

Keep things coming that he tells you though as it is obviously interesting and better some of the other terrible posts on here!

GDS

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Ha thanks man..... yeah I am being 100% sincere in what I say, im not the sort to make crap up, and I dont really understand why people do it! Yeah the Jones one I was really surprised about as I had no idea we were interested in him, obviously with Kagawa there was a little speculation... I should be seeing him fairly soon so il ask him if hes got any info on our future dealings!

UNITED_LEGENDS

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The word on the street here in Germany is that Kagawa is pretty much a done deal, with just a few loose ends to be tied up. Four different people said to me today that United had just signed him, all of them hoping to 'surprise' me with some United 'news'. There's been no talk or mention of other Dortmund players being United targets. {Ed007's Note - Were the four different people youngsters selling papers on the street....EXTRA EXTRA.....READ ALL ABOUT IT....Guv'nor!!! They do have a potential audience of over 600 million, so they need to shout REAL loud.}

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30 May 2012 16:36:05
Keita 5 million

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Isn't he a free agent?

RedMUFC

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I don't think so...he's 32 years old what are we gonna get out of him?

Simmo

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No he isnt a free agent his contract runs till 2014

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30 May 2012 16:16:50
chelsea understood to be close to agreeing deal with porto for huld around £38mil, while were linked with clint dempsey :(

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Hulk*

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So, Hulks over-rated. Nani is at least as good as Hulk even on his normal days, on a good day he blows him out of the water.

I wouldn't buy Dempsey if I was in charge, but he'd make a decent goalscoring squad player

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Thank god its huld, I think if they get him we should go for H U L K. and clint dempsey is good, proven and has some qualities our mid field needs.

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At this rate we will do well to finish 3rd.

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Finish 3rd at what?

Maybe 3rd at overpaying for players or 3rd for rumours site hyperbole or 3rd for being depressed for not buying 53 new players !
or ...............

Mike

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Will you stop moaning. Agreed need some fresh players but come on we played most the season with half a squad Most importantly no Captain and still finished joint top. Watch this team come good with the likes you Cleverly getting more playing time with Kagawa and one or two more SQUAD signings We don't need £60 mill signings

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We've never been linked with Dempsey the only ones that bene are Arsenal and Liverpool.

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I will bet you my house we dont sign Clint Dempsey. Had a good season but absolutely no way he will be in a Utd shirt next season. Personally I think Hulk is a real talent, a bit like Nani can be inconsistent and awfulyl wasteful, I dont think he is overhyped though just over priced
Invisible Stuey

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This is manutd site mate,i can't see any point there to discus sorry,as far as i know we never bid for both of them.in short i don't care what other team doing as long as we don't want them.

ferdcoast

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30 May 2012 14:55:03
I have just read on Bloomberg that General Motors are to announce a sponsorship deal with United tomorrow in Shanghai. Could be something or nothing but as a company they spent $1.1 billion on advertising last year so who know, it might be a significant amount.

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I'd be surprised if it was anything other than a lower-level sponsorship, but even that could bring in a relatively large amount of revenue, and lead to future sponsorship opportunities.

TM

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I mentioned this 2 months ago that Man Utd had agreed a deal with General motors to replace Audi as one of their sponsorships

Mad Hatter

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Great news more millions to pay off interest and buy back bonds :-(

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30 May 2012 13:28:02
With Both Barca and Madrid In financial trouble (Barca had to take out a loan to play players wages last season and Madrid must sell if they want to buy) I was thinking about throwing in a few Quiet Quick bids to test their resolve!
I know this sounds unreasonable and im not Expecting these things to actually happen but i think it would do no harm if we were to benefit from this situation.
All bids are just to test the water and see how much resolve each club has for certain players.
Barca
Fabregas: considering he wasnt in their untouchable 7 and has experience in England already. (25 Million, Likely to be rejected)
Sanchez: Very Good player, would love to see him in the red of United And very exciting to watch. (30 million)
Pedro: Quick, Good little finisher. (20 million)
Villa: may be in the twilight of his career but i think he would still be an option for us (10-15 million)
Madrid
Albiol: Can play in a decent amount of positions in defense, Strong and reliable (15 million)
Di maria: Quick and skillfull, Would like to see him on our wing or as a forward. (20 million)
Talk of both Higuain and Benzema leaving but i doubt madrid will let either of them go.
I know this is Far fetched and Silly but what harm in Trying?

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Fabregas - Only been there 1 year - no chance
Sanchez - Only been there 1 year - no chance
Pedro - Had problems with injuries this season but is still a regular when fit
Villa - Maybe, Barcelona aren't against selling him.
Albiol - Retired from football
Di Maria - According to Mourinho he is staying next year as he spent the majority of this year injured
Higuain - Says he wants to stay and Mourinho wants him to stay
Benzema - Why would they sell one of their stars of the season?

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Thiago Alcantara would be my choice would only cost us around £20 million pounds in my opinion. Is young and very talented and was very impressive throughout the season when he feature for Barcelona

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I'd be surprised if either club is in a position where they need to sell and expect both to be making signings regardless of any supposed financial difficulties. Albiol and Higuain are the only two players you've listed that may leave (although Pique and Dani Alves could both be available for various reasons) but Albiol has not been amazing for RM and Higuain will only leave if they bring in a new striker.
T0MB0Z

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Fabregas - Yes, but unlikely to leave after a year

Sanchez - Turned us down last year if rumour to be believed. Doubt we woudl go back again.

Pedro - Good but we have players in that position do we not?

Villa - Fegie revelaed that we tried to sign him before he went to Barca, depends how he comes back from broken leg.

Albiol - Solid, somewhat underated

Di Maria - Spends far to much time lying on the floor. Wouldnt like to see him in Red

Sambo

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Di maria is more lightweight than a leaf in the autumn wind!

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These clubs are in financial problems due to the current financial Climate in Spain (Banks are having major problems) If the banks go under Barca will be forced to pay off their massive debt one way or another and Madrid will also have to pay back alot of debt (Madrid not as bad as Barca) Suggested Barca players are here because recently Barca stated that only 7 of there players were unavailable to purchase, Thus Fabregas and Sanchez, Pique was on the list and wont be going anywhere.
These are not SUPPOSED financial difficulties! Alot of clubs in the spanish League will suffer if the banks go under.

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To be honest most targets there are unrealistic bar albiol, as all the barca players wouldnt leave unless for ridiculos money and madrid would never sell di maria as he provides to many assists,,, why not go for a realistic target whos proven and a reliable player like keisuke honda? He would be a reasonable price and would help improve our midfield...

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30 May 2012 13:26:25
I am really not looking forward to the summer if we are going to go in for Luka Modric he is the most over hyped, overpriced, overrated player I have perhaps ever seen he doesnt pass forwards he passes sideways gets hardly any assists or goals he is very poor i would much rather prefer the more defensive midfielder that are there to tackle like M'Villa etc than get Modric who basically passes 3 yards and gets his personal stats up

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So he is the same as Carrick, but better?

GDS

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We play 4-4-2.. side ways suits us cause of our pacey wingers, young, nani, valencia... rooney loves coming down for the ball and with shinji around... it'll be a very good link up for quick one-two's... which is the pacey direction fergy is trying to follow... it bumbed out this season cause the link ups (cleverly and anderson) were always injured

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Luckily for Xavi and Modric top football managers recognise the importance of ball retention. Modric has a better goals per games ratio and Xavi hasn't done bad for himself has he?!

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But £30m more expensive

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Not really GDS.
Carrick is here now and has delivered for us regularly.
Modric would cost a stupid amount of money and deliver no improvement.
What's he done at Spurs?
Good in spells, but was nowhere to be seen when Spurs fell apart second half of the season.
Is that really what we need?
Money is tight, we need to spend it more wisely than blowing it on obviously not good enough playes.
That cash could buy two or three more effective players for us.

Bob

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I wouldn't want him against top teams he goes missing he could never replace scholes not good enough I think Cleverley could if fit we need a defensive midfielder wouldn't no who like tiato at Newcastle win the ball and then paass it to the skilful players maybe muntain strong and gets box to box

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Martinez would be good

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The only player we should go for in this position is kevin strootman he has everything has great potential to be world class and is destined to be the future of dutch football and for half the price of modric/martinez !! sign him up fergie


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Did he just describe Michael Carrick ? Modric is perfect for us, opinion of premiership players is he is class
SC

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"Carrick is here now and has delivered for us regularly" really? Admittedly had a last good six months and first season but Carrick for me is a decent player in games we dominate tidying up having time to play good passes and distributing the ball well, put him in a high tempo game against top opposition and he is a rabbit in headlights. One thing surprises me on here, the last 3/4 years a lot of people havent been sure about Carrick yet after a good six months he seems to be in everybodies starting eleven for next season. For me personally that shows how weak and under performing our midfield has become. I agree Modric is a tad over rated but when we are in possesion of the ball of course he offers an improvement, he is very comfortable in possesion of the ball. He would be a good addition though I think we need a strong bossing Robson/Ince/Keane type midfielder with lots of energy and able to get stuck in as well, Essien of 3 years ago would be ideal. Lots of people mentioning Strootman, seen little of him and maybe not hi sbetter games but he hasnt particularly imrpessed me. Only player I see who would really improve us in central midfield is Martinez and dont see it happening sadly
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30 May 2012 13:18:24
Kagawa almost ours for £12m now i think that could be best buy of the window! This guy is proven and played in a tough league where his goals and assists ratio from midfield is brilliant! Exciting times what a signing this guy wont disappoint! Source B8C sport

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Remember Dzeko looked amazing in the german league

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To be fair Dzecko was only ever a goalscorer. He has scored a lot of goals this season while being rotated with the rest of the squad. And he scored the equalizer that got them back into the last game when they won the league. Not that bad.

Kagawa has everything. Tricks, goals, assists and great decision making

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Kagawa is a great player. You don't get voted "Bundesliga's Best Player" if you're a middle-of-the-road player. Especially when you consider German has players such as Gotze, Robben, Ribery, etc...

James.

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30 May 2012 12:52:41
Scholes has signed a new 1 yr deal & Amos has also signed a new deal.

Hobbes

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30 May 2012 12:33:31
Anyone shed any light on the rumour that PSG have offered £120million for Rooney? Or is it just bs?

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It would have been accepted if true mate. I think £70m would be accepted personally.

Sydney!

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Sell, sell, sell if it's true. We have the two top England strikers in Welbeck & W.Keane. Purchase Barkley & Powell and we have the midfield. We already have the future CB's. Amos aswell and we have the England backbone for the next 10yrs.

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They haven't, but the money is including wages, so if the rumour is true, i'd expect around 70-80 for transfer fees..

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This is the first place we have heard it!

GDS

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If they have he'll be gone lol

Pardoe

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Do you really need to ask??
Red1

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I hope it is true!

MDJ

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Thats like having the backbone of an invertebrate though..... il get my coat...

In all honesty that sounds like a load of crap..... although id quite like it to be true in a way... Rooney is class but he is overated (If that makes sense). Like Syd said, £70 million and i'd accept. If we did sell though we would need to buy another world class striker.... e.g. Falcao or someone similar...

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It would not be accepted because Rooney wouldn't want to go to France. This would then show that he may not be an integral part of the team and would disrupt us.

N

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LOL I'd take that! Where has this come from anyway? Sounds a bit twitterish to me...

Gav

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Looking at this objectively let's say it's true I wouldn't sell for one reason and one reason only, the money from ronaldo's transfer got taken out the club to pay debt and it would no doubt happen again! In any other scenario I'd prob sell.

Matt4486

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Wouldn't want us to accept any offer for him, why are people saying sell,sell,sell!? is it because of the contract problem last year? imo he's the 3rd best player in the world, would get into any team in the world and is the heartbeat of our team without him we would be very average!

Just because we receive 80 million doesnt mean there is 80million's worth of available players and arent you lot always moaning about received money not being reinvested?

Gpot7

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Your all saying sell sell sell. But once Rooney goes there is no big name player at the club that would attract new players If hazard had signed then maybe but this will not happen.

Ronaldo was sold not just because of the great price but because we still had Rooney, we dont have anyone if he goes

fearny

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Rubbish. As has been mentioned already it would be accepted in an instant. Anyone wondering whether Rooney would want to leave need only need remember his 'lack of ambition' comments (which SAF has so far done little to dispel) and think that if PSG are willing to offer £120m for a player there is more than likely a ridiculous wage on offer as well.

I can't believe people are saying they'd like Rooney to leave. I'm still sore about the way he acted a few years back but without him we'd be a mid-table team.
T0MB0Z

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Sounds more t**tterish than twitterish to me Gav!

GDS

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£120m? David Moyes would be picking up close to £30m on that baby! BS TBH.

SB

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Can't believe how many of you would sell Rooney, for £70mil?
I think this website is populated by foreign United fans that have never even seen Old Trafford, never mind been to watch games there.
You all see £££'s and you start thinking Football Manager...pathetic.
"OOh £70mil...who could we buy with that...we could act like Citeh and throw money at stoopid buys...brilliant..."
All i ever see on this site is part time Reds bitching about the lack of "world class" (tm) players...And now you get a sniff of a rumour about big money offers for OUR BEST PLAYER and you wanna take the cash?
Un - effing - believable!
I think some of you need to seriously reconsider where your loyalties lie.
I also think being supported by, apparently, one tenth of the worlds population is having a seriously detramental affect on the type of support we have these days.
Mindless, absolutely mindless.

Bob {Ed004's Note - You can see where people are coming from though. With that money you could get Martinez, Ozil, Kagawa and Cavani... Now who would you prefer. Those 4 or Rooney...}

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Never happen but if it did, the Glazers wouldn't invest a penny of it and Fergie will still say there's no value in the market. Rooney is one of the only players we've got who is good for marketing, a big name player and also quality. All of you saying sell sell sell are no doubt the same muppets who sing, "who are you?" and only know the anti-city and liverpool songs. I've been going to OT since I was 7 (1984-85 season) and going to the ground now isn't a fun experience as I'm surrounded by out of towners, who just expect us to win or don't care if we don't win. Argh!!

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Not really Ed
Like how Ronaldo's money got reinvested in top quality?
We look to have Kagawa close to done anyway.
Who's to say Ozil would come or Real would sell?
Martinez will probably go Munich or Citeh anyway.
In short, i'd take Rooney and whatever we can add this summer. No point selling our best player, to replace with...what? an expensive gamble?
We don't need that kind of investment. Why can't people have a little perspective? We were two mins from winning the league....hardly necessary to have a massive tabloid fuelled knee jerk reaction.
Cheers Ed
Bob {Ed004's Note - I think Rooney is without doubt are best play but for anything over 70 million I would carry him to PSG... that's just my opinion...}

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Top 2 strikers, so funny, ben amos,dream on ,and rooney walk into any team, bs, he wouldnt even get into city team,same as ur team, a has been, lol {Ed004's Note - So the second top goal scorer in the league wouldn't get into the Man City team...*sigh* talk about bitterness...}

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Couldn't agree more with Bob.
T0MB0Z

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If teams knew we had £70+ million there's no way we'd be able to buy anybody without being ripped off.We need to have a season of revulsion of the glazers and get them out!Can one of the protest groups hand out tennis balls before a game an launch them onto the pitch midway through a game?With 30,000 balls on the pitch it would take a good half hour to clear,enough time for the camera's to watch and hear our protests!

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I can remember think when ronaldo left which world class players we would buy turns out none
What happened to the ronaldo money?

We sold ronaldo and bought Valencia maybe we could sell Rooney and buy Darren bent while the money went else where

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Ed004 no guarantees of getting any of thos eplayers you mentioned if we sold Rooney, like sainy g£32m would get us Hazard. A whole hos tof teams woul dbe interested in those players you mentioned who could quite easily ofer bugger wages. I think people saying they would sell Rooney are mad. We sold Ronaldo for £80m how well was he replaced with the money?Rooney is ENglish as well which counts for something. Agree with Bob, utter madness some of these comments though each to there own.
Invisible STuey

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What i can say on that rumours is b*tt*cks

ferdcoast

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If we lost Wazza it would be a disaster, if they look like a feeder club selling the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney why would any these other top players want to sign for united. We need the stars like Rooney to attract other top players!

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30 May 2012 11:51:06
According to reports the Napoli club president has said there is an international bidding war for Ezequiel Lavezzi apparently there is 6 clubs at the minute and that could increase with £24.8million release clause... I for one wouldnt be disapointed if we signed him to play up top or out wide to be honest

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If he was a few years younger I would welcome the move.

Sydney!

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Syd, he only just turned 27 and still probably has at least 4 very good years left in him. I don't think his age should be considered as a problem at all tbh.

The Southern Red

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At 27 his age will be very important, especially if theres a bidding war with 6 teams starting at £24.8million.
Too old and not a player that we need.

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His football style is similar to tevez,and wayne and we all knows that ferg say we can't used wayne and tevez at the same time.we need someone different from wayne.eg cavani,gomez or Robert Lewandowski,my choice is Robert Lewandowski is cheaper and young.

ferdcoast

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I would like to see llorente he brings height up front something we very much lack.

sparkyred

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We were in for Sneijder when he was 27 for big money and he only didn't sign because he was an awfully greedy so and so. I don't think we'll get Lavezzi anyhow, but he can play pretty capably on the left as well, so like the original poster said he would be a good signing if we do get him. The Southern Red

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30 May 2012 11:05:30
german newspaper "BILD" claims the Kagawa deal is done for up to € 20 million, upfront are € 15 million.
that's a steal in my book!

great news!

Jonny8

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Seen him live a few times, a great buy if we get him!x

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30 May 2012 10:56:42
Irish mail reporting 5m bid gone in on Powell from Crewe

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£2m upfront with £3m in possible add-ons. Crewe want £3m upfront and want to keep him on loan for next season. He is still favourite to sign for us, but nothing finalised yet.

Sydney! {Ed001's Note - Syd, where did you get your figures from? And the fact he is favourite to sign for United? The only people saying United are favourites are the ones who said Hazard had chosen United. He has not made any decision on his future yet, certainly does not have any leanings towards United. In fact, last I heard, he wants to play first team football, that was his sole priority at the moment. I wouldn't be so sure he will move this summer myself, not with Crewe earning promotion, but I can't see him staying more than a year, unless they get another promotion.}

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30 May 2012 10:41:03
Hi all, heard this morning that we have enquired about Adam Johnson from city. I think this could be a great buy. I really rate him and was supprised downing got ahead of him for the euros. I guess it was just his playing time that lost him his spot. I think he could be a great squad player, can play on both wings and every time he plays he is always looking to attack. We lost a bit of a killer instinct last season, we would get 1,2 goals up then stop but he is a player that never stops trying to score goals. Him nani young and Toni would be a really good wing quartet for next season and with one of our regualrs bound to get an injury we will need another good young English squad winger that can make an impact on the game.

REDP

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With respect do you think he would want to go from one place to be a squad player elsewhere? if thats the case he may aswell get huge wages and do nothing. But I would think he wants to play football.

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Caught offside really is not a worthy source my friend. We had interest in Johnson before City signed him. He was ready to join but we were messing him around and he moved to City instead. I do not think he is on the manager's list anymore, nor would City sell to us.

Sydney!

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Love to sign him,quality player.Never going to happen though

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I think he would b a good signing for us but I doubt that c@&y would sell to us.

Warrington red

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I'd love this to be true, and think he would be up for it. However, I can't see City going for this, I think it would require a move inbetween, perhaps to his native Sunderland?

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Sunderland in for him and City Very unlikely to sell to us!

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WE should have bid £6 million in the first place rather than wait for him on a free when he was at middlesboro.

Mad Hatter

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Adam johnson i sa good winger but i think he doesn't give his 100% for full game once he gets a goal that it he thinks he is done the job and does not chase back, i had respect for the lad before but may be he got lazy or the money has spoiled him a NO for us. i think if pogba stays we should send him on load to wigan or sunderland or another premier league team where he can develop and get first team place and then we can make a desicion as we invested a lot of money on him and i would like he doing some good to us, i beleive he's talented and before he leaves empty handed i want us and him to benifit

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U say city wudnt sell to us they have that defender whos in the reserves so it could be possible

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City never sold us Veseli, he was a free agent.

Sydney!

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Sorry forgot about that
cheers sydney
welshy..

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30 May 2012 10:27:21
i have a source within OT that has confirmed the Kagawa deal is 99% complete and we have now switched our focus to douglas costa of shaktar

SD GGMU

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Really...........uve got a sorce inside o/t??? the only source u have is in them dispensers when u buy a hot dog.

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Your source has probably just been on bbc football, where I just read this story!

Gav

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I like it very possible

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I didn't see much of him last season.so i can't say anything on that rumours.

ferdcoast

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Would love to see fergie sign him hes very skilful and can make things happen hes better and cheaper than modric

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30 May 2012 10:10:53
kagawa and powell to united within the nxt week

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30 May 2012 09:21:37
United are keeping tabs on Chivas striker/CAM Marco Fabian who we have looked at previously. He is a very talented player, but unlike the 'saint' Chicharito, Fabian is a party animal and does have behaviour issues. I am not sure we will go for him for this very reason, but he is a talented player nonetheless. He tore Barcelona's youth to shreds in a friendly last summer. Work permit may be an issue.

Sydney!

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Syd

I know quite a bit about this lad actually and he is some player im not sure hes united standard but he is very talented and like you said his lifestyle and decisions may hinder his career.... id personally like the look of James Rodriguez, Yann M'Villa, Shinji Kagawa and maybe Clyne and Powell this summer but im holding hopes that the interest in Nani from Atletico Madrid materialises so we could maybe negotiate a deal with them for Falcao as i believe he is immense and suited to the premiership with his physical presence

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I'd prefer Pulido, lefty and would suit that interchangeable front 4.

Sanshine

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Isn't Fabian the guy who scored that tasty overhead kick for Chivas like in the past season?

Ozwald

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30 May 2012 07:34:25
United..35 million..Modric

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Is this a fact or are you just reading what everybody else is writing and re posting?!
Carl

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Yes hes a good player but hes not world class, I think levy will want far too much for him.

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Modric is never worth that much money, hardly ever scores. We'd be better spending elsewhere.

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This will happen, I know someone who now and again tells me info. He informed me of Torres to Chelsea, Suarez to Pool and VDV to Spurs. He told me...52 mil for 2 mids... 35 mil for Modric. Im assuming other 17 is for Kagawa.

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Thers alot better players than modric i dont rate him tbh weve not had good luck really with spurs players we dont need another one when this time nxt yr we will be complaining about him like weve done with carrick and berb

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I think Modric would be good for 20 million tops. We could go for Witsel for 20 million, or M'Vila for 18 million, Strootman 17 million, maybe Fellaine for 24 million all younger all better value and all closer to what we need. M'Vila and Strootman for the same price as Modric sound much more like it to me. if we are going to go for a 30 million plus player then one of Gotze or Lucas would be the ones to go for.
Mik

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Expensive but we need him, or someone like him. he runs things positively from the midfield a little like scholes and quite unlike Carrick.

Nip

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We will not sign Strootman or M'Vila..they will probably play well at Euro 2012 meaning there fee will rise.

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30 May 2012 03:57:30
@Percy

This might come as a disappointment to you, but this is what i have been told by a source close to Athletico Madrid. They have serious interest in Nani and expect competition from Juventus and PSG for his signature. They were told by his agent that United have postponed contract talks for until after the Euros and if an agreement is not reached, he will be available. I suspect United were trying to get in Hazard and looking to offload Nani. Rodriguez may be a target although i feel him, strootman, muniain and martinez will move next year and not this transfer window, unless someone makes an offer too good to refuse.

My opinion on Nani is that he is a good player, can be unplayable in some matches, and poor in some others. He is inconsistent, yes, but that is when you compare him to the very top players like Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi, Iniesta etc. It does my head in when people say Nani is inconsistent and then suggest the likes of Bale who is even more inconsistent and whose crossing is no better than Nani's. He can't take corners, but why do we make him take them is the question we should be asking. Injuries, strikers not finishing off chances and a lack of movement from our central midfield have not helped his game one bit, and i think he will benefit from Kagawa and a fit Cleverley playing in the team.

Also i have been told that Harry Redknapp may well not be in the Tottenham hotseat next season. United have sounded out Modric's agent, and we are expected to push through with a bid, with competition from PSG expected. I feel a player might be chucked in the deal.

Finally onto the most interesting thing i was told is that RVP's talks with Arsenal aren't going well and he is likely to move. Juventus have made him an offer but he is not keen on moving to Italy. His talks with City did not go well, but those with United did and his most likely destination right now seems to be a move to United. I was not told about what figures are to be involved in the deals though. Its pretty much backing up what RFT/I AM KLOOT said on here few days ago.

This is just what i have been told, by a couple of people who have proved to be reliable in the past although i wouldn't go as far as doing a Rafa and claiming "i'm talking about facts".

Interesting summer ahead, although its sad to have lost out on Hazard. Kagawa seems pretty much a deal that will be done shortly according to the papers at least.

REDFAITH

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'RF'

I think it's very important that we do the bulk of the spending this summer, not only to mostly complete the transition, but to give the fans some confidence. Also I feel a LW must be bought this summer as Nani will be on his final year of contract next summer and we would lose him for pennies. We must sell him this summer and therefore must go for Rodriguez this summer too IMO.

Sydney!

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I agree that Nani can be a world beater but every 1 in 10 games maybe which isnt good enough he gets in the final third alot and his decision making is very poor and goes alone far too much and when he doesnt he cant cross i would much prefer the 25million and sign Rodriguez or put it towards Falcao

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Nani starts the season well and makes us think hes finally got it but then fades towards christmas.
I agree with the thought that if Hazard had come in Nani would have gone to fund it. As he didnt then probably worth keeping Nani. Can be a match winner but can also disappear which tends to mean a seat on the bench most of the time unless theres injuries to the first eleven

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If Nani moves it will be a huge, needless loss. He loves the club and is one of our best players. It's as simple as that.

Percy

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Once again Percy is right (on at least this issue)

Mike

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Percy is rightm though "one of our best players" shouldnt have finished the sentence with "on his day". He is the only player we have in my opinion at the moment who is unpredictable and can beat a player with both pace and trickery and make things happen. Valencia is excellent in that he is all power and pace and delivers an excellent final ball. We need a player like Nani in our team, the question is, should that player be Nani though? Personally I think Nani is far more effective on the right than left, and that is where Valencia plays, so if we get a decent fee for him and IF we can find a top class exciting repalcement (which Hazard obvsiously seemed to be) I would sell him. Sad really, I had very high hopes for both Nani and Anderson, neither have really progressed as there early promise showed though for various reasons.
Invisible Stuey

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Everybody thought Ronaldo was a show pony and nothing more. SAF kept the faith with him and he has developed into the best winger in the world bar none. I would like to think Nani has the same potential more or less and his loyalty to the club is unquestionable. Keep, keep, keep.

Nip

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Nani will accept a new contract and we will keep him, or at least that's what makes sense. He is one of our best players, but like most wingers and flair players (with some notable exceptions), he's inconsistent.We really don't need another winger, especially if Kagawa comes. Kagawa is as effective wide on the left as he is as an advanced central midfielder/2nd striker. We need central midfielders, real center of the park midfielders, not wingers or "in the hole"players. Witsel, M'Vila,Strootman Fellaine etc. We need our engine room upgraded more urgently then anywhere else on the park.
Mik

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30 May 2012 00:13:38
We had an bid of £15 million turned down by Dortmund for Lewandowski last week. Not sure if we'll try again. So that means we're definately after a striker then, makes sense with Owen and Berbatov left/leaving and Macheda's future unknown.

United Till I Die 1987

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How much have we left from the 80 mill of the ronaldo sale. glaziers out now. before its to late

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Does it make sense though?

Owen and Berbs, two strikers who couldn't get a game last season. And we're replacing them?
Do we need someone to keep seats on the bench warm?
Because we certainly don't "need" another striker who isn't going to play.

Bob

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'How much have we left from the 80 mill of the ronaldo sale. glaziers out now. before its to late'

Agreed wholeheartedly

United Till I Die 1987

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29 May 2012 23:50:39
Not a united rumour but was wondering what the ed's thiughts where on italian leagues match fixing probe. President of italy today said football could be cancelled for 3 years. Is this knee jerk or true? What would happen to all the players in that league?
Jenny {Ed007's Note - To be honest Jenny I have no interest in Italian football. It is far too boring to watch and far too corrupt to take serious.}

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Personally I cant see a 3 year ban on football in Italy, it would effectively put a lot of people out of a job who may be innocent. Those clubs or individuals found guilty will be relagated and find a huge ammount (and rightly so)....
HERBIE

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Not much interest myself, but did wonder what would happen with players if no games to play? Bizarre situation
Jenny {Ed001's Note - it won't happen, but if it did, they would loan out those on high wages they wanted to keep and sell the rest.}

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Its a really stupid thing to come out with, first words will be human rights second will be stopping them plying their trade blah blah and EEC would throw a spaz fit

Pardoe

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They'll 'find' a huge amount of what?

N

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Italian football is the absolute mutt's nuts. nowhere else could reputations be besmirched as quickly as they can in Italy, and no other country could breed 2 players as class as Totti and Del Piero

Jaxer

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It would be interesting to know what someone like Paul Pogba thinks of the situation or anyone else considering a move to Serie A. You would think that if the Prime Minister of Italy is talking of a ban on football in the country then there's a chance of it happening, but then again if the new Prime Minister talks as much **** as the last one (Burlisconi) then maybe not!
Andy B

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I would hate to see Serie A destroyed but I would love to see Asamoah, Pato, Thiago Silva, Sneijder etc all be available it would make the market so interesting as there values would differ due to the situation

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Great call Andy B.... what is going through Pogba's head now? Stay and fight for a place within the biggest sporting club in the world or enter the dragons' den of Italian football where all sorts of misdemeaners are going on

Langers

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I'll eat my shoes if there's an outright ban on Italian football. There could be bans/relegations enforced on those found guilty - but they will never enforce and outright ban.
T0MB0Z

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29 May 2012 23:30:31
its been reported that munich have held talks with martinez agent
jred

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29 May 2012 23:28:31
the main stumbling block with kagawa is now his £100,000-a-week wage demands but United are confident of agreeing a deal by offering a lucrative commercial agreement, on top of a sizeable basic salary, that will see the 23-year-old earn money from image rights linked to Far East earnings.

jred

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Why not pay him what he wants?

Why are we the only team that doesn't sign players cause of contracts, players are attracted by money.

Hell I'f I got offered another 100k more for doing the same thing ild swap.

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Kagawa is on 750,000 to 1,000,000 euros per year and he wants to play for United! There won't be a lot of trouble there. He.s on a max of 20,000 Euros per week (16,000 quid), United rumored to triple that with basic salary,then add image rights. For once I feel sure we'll actually sort a deal out. Now for some central midfielders, Witsel would be a good buy.
Mik

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He does not want 100,000 at all. He is currently on 25,000 at Dortmund and would be happy with 50,000.

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This is BS, Kagawa was on about £40k a week at BvB he's not asking for £100k! He wants the move to United and was just waiting until Dortmund agree a fee, wages were never a problem. Expect him to be on about £85k a week.

Ozwald

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JRED

Where did you get the 100k a week from. According to reports he's gonna be paid around 80K a week and everything has now been agreed. All that remains is Kagawa's signature which im hearing will be done next week.

Simmo

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I will presume this is a load of rubbish unless you can provide a source

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Haha this post did make me laugh, but what's made me laugh even more is the following posts.... Why guess what his wage is?!?!! If you don't know, then there really is no need to lie, is there? stuff like this spoils this site I feel.

The Red Devil

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Just checked and German tax is 45% for high earners, so around the same as the UK.

Whatever he was on in needs to be converted and applied. If he was on 50k, he'd take home £22,000. For him to take that home over here, it'd be £45,000.

As it's said, I don't think wages are an issue. Deal is done as far as I can see (near enough confirmed by Dortmund president).

SB

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He would have been on less than £40k a week at Dortmund as he was still on his first contract from when he signed from Osaka for £300k. It would only be guesswork, but I would say his wage is around Mik's figure of around £16k a week. United will treble or quadruple it, but it will not be anywhere near £100k a week. I think have got this one wrong.

Sydney!

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SB

If he was on £50k he would take home £28k mate and we would therefore need to pay £56k to equal it. I suspect he is on less than £20k.

Sydney!

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Syd,

Post doesn't like the Euro symbol ;) 50k euro is about 22k GBP and was using it as an example. Reports are he is on 750k to 1m euro a year. Top end is £440k a year or £10k a week after tax...oh where is Paul Pogba's morals when you need them.

SB

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