Manchester United Rumours Archive August 03 2013

03 Aug 2013 21:07:27
Rumours circulating from Spain that Madrid have agreed the salsale of Bale from Spurs. but not until the end of the 2013/14 season which has infuriated Bale who wants out now this means Ronnie will wind down his contract and look for a return to OT at the same time for half the current value
This suits United as they can throw a �40 million offer at Fabregas that will be accepted. other rumour coming from OT is that Rooney definitely stays at least for the coming season

Plausible I suppose, could be a similar agreement to that when Ronaldo agreed one more year before he got his wish.

Load of bollox

Thats ridiculous. He has already said goodbye to his teammates and did not travel with them to Monaco.

I thought mourinho mentioned something about real not moving last season and that they've decided to go full throttle for him for this season. Not them exact words but you get my drift

MuffinMan

Real Madrid are currently 2-0 up against Everton in USA so I don't how they are in Monaco. Btw Ronaldo scored one of the goals

I think he meant Spurs, who played Monaco earlier today.

Rooney wants away.
He will ask for a transfer this week
That will infuriate the fans even more.
United will not keep a player that has no commercial value to them any more. Angry fans means no shirt sales with Rooney on, plus he will upset the dressing room. As much as they do not like it the only team that is really interested are Chelsea.
Rooney will be a Chelsea player by the end of next week

Why are RM so desperate to get bale?

Because he is the third best player in the world

Bale is not the third best player in the world. In my opinion he is a top quality player but at his current level I think there are a few better players. But Bales potential is crazy he is more than capable of becoming one of the top 2 or 3 players in the world if he keeps working hard to improve himself. Players like ronaldo are rare. The determination and work that he puts in every single day to make him self the best he could possibly be is crazy he has a drive and passion to win that not many players have.

Bale is not the third best player in the world. In my opinion he is a top quality player but at his current level I think there are a few better players. But Bales potential is crazy he is more than capable of becoming one of the top 2 or 3 players in the world if he keeps working hard to improve himself. Players like ronaldo are rare. The determination and work that he puts in every single day to make him self the best he could possibly be is crazy he has a drive and passion to win that not many players have. REDDEVIL4LIFE

03 Aug 2013 08:03:30
According to several reports ooney is going to make a decision on his future depending on the reaction he gets in the next 2 games. Let's be honest, Moyes comments about him being a back up won't have helped

Read the whole comment and not the 1% the press have focused on. Mouse actually said Rooney was vital that he would try play him and rvp together. As usual the press are twisting a comment out of context. Gutter press in uk makes me so proud. Not!

The english press are anti-United and generally anti England.

tomr

Everyone bar united fans are anti united. Part and parcel of supporting united we just get use to it. I can see us running his contract down before allowing him to join a PL rival.

Dan

Ajh, you know my views on Rooney. I want him to stay and I do think moyes's remarks were ridiculous. I have been Rooney's biggest supporter. But doesn't he just come out and tell us that he definitely did not put a transfer request in, and that he loves the club and wants to stay here.
That will clear the air and we can prepare for the season. But sadly, it appears that is not the case and I think, he wants out.
Shame, because if we sell to Chelsea, then we've had it.
Nomidfield

He knows he'll get a mixed reaction. The cynic in me believes this article was planted by the Rooney camp as step 1 in their plan that uses the fans response to him as an excuse to leave, which I'm sure in some way boils down to money.

Ben

Fergie left Moyes in a shocking position when he stated at the end of the last match, that Rooney had handed in a transfer request and wanted away. He said it was not his problem anymore. That was his departing dig at a player who he had obviously fallen out with. Very naughty really that should have stayed in house. No matter what Moyes does now he can not win. If he keeps him a lot will say he is disruptive and should be shown the door. If he goes to Chelsea he could help them win the league I do not think that Fergie would have appreciated it if it had been done on him. From such a great manager there was no need. Lost a bit of respect off me on this one Fergie

03 Aug 2013 00:40:33
Ronaldo will be announced next week.
There is no headline "fee" as a unique deal has been structured which is based on the MUFC stock price and a share option deal with Real Madrid at a preferential rate. It is labyrinthine in nature but basically Ronaldo is considered a massive marketing device and as such the turnover and net profit generated will cause the share price to surge and then a second tranche will be made as an IPO by the Glazers leaving them 51% controlling stake and all debts paid off.
It`s boring but Ronaldo is a lynchpin and is the poster boy to drive everything toward that end. It is as much about brand, column inches and photos of sponsors brands as goals and trophies.
Ronaldo will be made Captain and the No7 shirt will be his. Chevrolet and Nike are contributing significantly to his "package" and it is too simplistic to put it in terms of $x per week - Its a long view from CR7s representatives but the over all payday is somewhere approaching $250m to $400m depending on share price performances for Nike, GM and of course MUFC.
The reason Woodward has been so long backj dealing with this is that it is a very complex and multi-layered deal and one that no other club could match without the financial sophistication of the Blue Chip companies involved.
Forget any headline Transfer fees or wages as the deal being structured is much more contrived.
In short, the papers will be drawn up, signed and sealed and CR7 will be in Red again and he will be better than ever and be a the mature leader that Cantona was and then some.
Sorry if this is boring but it hopeful explains the different complexities involved with global strategists than the more blunt approach that City takes with their pseudo-stars.

cuscochris :)

This sounds too sophisticated to be rubbish. so ill give it some credibility points.

Wow! If this is BS FairPlay it would have taken a lot of thinking up just couldn't see Madrid taking such a gamble in not receiving a fee.

I want to believe this but I can't see Ronaldo donning the united jersey again. may be the pessimist talking but I just. can't

So in English. real madrid will recieve a % share of the $250 - $400 from the marketing of Ronaldo returning to old Trafford?

Are you 100% of this mate because I've let myself dream before!

Well said. We just have to wait fr anything big to happen. soon

Eduardo

I've no idea how to respond to this, so I won't.

UncleMalc

So you are suggesting Real Madrid are going to accept shares in Manchester United as payment for Ronaldo? Hmmmm!

I like your confidence but I can't see RM agreeing to a deal where they are not guaranteed a set amount of money.

Stocks and shares are so volatile and RM would be taking a risk if they just accepted this deal.

Unless the deal includes a back up fee where United will pay x amount if the shares don't do as well as anticipated then I really don't see this happening.

Obviously I hope to god it does happen though!

#ags

From a business perspective, why would RM take a stack of options from MU? MU stock is now at around $16 having come back down from an all time high of about $19. 6. The stock is very thinly traded most days, around 30K shares.

For an option to be attractive, the strike price (the price at which RM can convert at) much be very attractive, or put it simply, as low as possible. The time that RM has to convert their option into MU stock must also be reasonably short. If and when they convert, MU technically will have one of their biggest European rivals as likely their single largest shareholder outside of the Glazers. Whether this will create an issue in Europe at UEFA level no one knows.

If the strike is set too low, then it is bad for the stock. If its set too high then RM may not like it. Technically the strike should be higher than some x days average as this would indicate to the market that mgmt. has confidence in the deal and that the stock will rise accordingly. The strike price needs to be set that RM can get 80M quid worst case and best case a hell of a lot more. So - this is not an easy deal to put together and certainly warrants Woodward to go back mid-tour. A simple transfer like Cesc Fabregas should not require so much mind share.

Bottom line - I think Ron deal is real. I think Ron deal is complex and I think this Fabregas things is just a smoke screen. If Ron comes back Roo can go fu#k himself

Not a chance will the Glazers be giving up a stake in the club to fund a transfer.
Interesting reading none the less.
Rick

This is either true (in which case where do you get your info considering it could be viewed as insider trading information and is amazing detailed) or you spent a lot of time coming up with the most complex fake rumour I've seen on this site. Either way, well done cusco.

If that's a made up rumour, well done! Hope it's true, would love Ronnie back! And the debt paid off. Would be the best transfer window ever.

This all sounded plausible until you started waxing lyrical about how brilliant Ronaldo is going to be. Became a biased piece then and revealed that you have no genuine insight.

I have no idea if you have any sources, if there's any truth in this, or if you have simply made it all up. However, it's one of the best and most delicious rumours on here. KLOOT in particular will love the irony. We sign Ronaldo, in order to push the share price up, in order to make more money for the Glazers.

I would love OUR Ronnie to return and hope this is true but he's just put his house in alderley edge up for sale in the last few weeks so he wouldn't do that if he was coming back. its on rightmove for 3. 75 mill. gutted.

Deluded, completely fabricated story.
I can't believe everyone is getting so excited about this story. There is no evidence to say that we are talking to Ronaldo.

Simmo

Haha rubbish! Madrid don't sell players like ronaldo! united don't have the clout to buy him back

You are all missing the most important part of the rumour, THE DEBT WILL BE PAID OFF! If this happens we will be laughing under financial fair play. Given our robust business model and blue chip sponsors as well as the largest club stadium in the land our revenue streams from footballing activities will be unmatchable as such so will our spending. let's pray this happens and uefa enforce ffp.

Anyone thought all this publicity about 'talks' to bring ronaldo back could be to increase the sales of shares in order to gain capital? If ronaldo does come home then surely the share price would rocket!

Really interesting post. Are you sure real will be offered options in united stock? I think a %age in the merchandising sounds like it could interest real madrid, but would they want to invest in man u just to sell a player?

- Or is that what you mean by saying its "tranched. " Will they literally split off a portion of the manchester united portfolio related to ronaldo merchandising, and create a fixed rate bond vehicle that rm would then be purchasing. So they will be option holders in a portion of uniteds stock, but not literally exposed to the united share price movement. Of course the infamous example of this being with the mortgage backed securities which crashed the markets a few years ago. wouldn't it be ironic if they did that to real madrid! Just joking :P, no one wants to see financial instability in the game. It even hurts me to see what's happened to arsenal.

- If this is true I think its a great way for united to go forward. We have the ability to appeal to sponsors the way no other club has, and I think woodward and co. deserve some credit if they are smart enough to use this as a way to compete in the transfer market. GGMU

Redwolf

Ronaldo always said his house in manchester wasn't good enough for whst he wanted. So selling it would make sense if he was buying another one

While i'm hopeful of his return, I can't see this post being true purely because how would you know how the deal is structured? Can't imagine many people at all would know, if this is true.

Ozwald

WOW! Simply wow!

You my friend have just raised the bar for fake rumours to astronomical levels. From now on, all other fake rumours are going to look pathetic, no matter what they make up.

Then again, if what you say has any truth, I am going to be one very happy chappy.

Either way, I enjoyed your post. Feel free to post and no doubt annoy KLOOT immensely anytime :-)

Brendan81

Forget about RM share's. GM Motors and NIKE both want him back at OT, but especially NIKE they don't want to c him in an adidis shirt just before the world cup. That's the company side or it. So there' reason why it couldn't happen. They make so much back in shirt sales in the first year. 60-40 he's coming home

This makes perfect sense. Both clubs would profit from the deal in the short and long term; plus both clubs would more than meet the financial fair play rules. Madrid could then possibly sign both Bale and Suarez, and still be able to balance the books.

I am actually begining to believe this could happen.

Fingers crossed

SLred

What makes this more believable for me is Woodwards background, if anyone were to come up with a deal of this complexity they would have to be from a strong financial background instead of a sporting one.

given Woodwards former position as a senior investment banker at JP Morgan and that he developed the new commercial strategy for the club (ie promoting the brand/ philosophy of Man Utd) it makes a lot of sense to use Ronaldo as a commercial vehicle to becoming debt free, which of course would only serve to make us more desirable on the stock market.
IF this is true then I could not see any other club being able to create a deal of this kind. also this would surely mean the end for Rooney, with players like Rvp, Giggs and Ronaldo being the focus of what is utd (professional, class etc) rooney seems less and less the embodiment of these qualities

Still don't understand why Real would need to sell. Barcelona bought Neymar but didn't have to sell Messi. It's just wishful thinking dressed up with some highly unlikely business talk. Why would anyone want United to have a share owned by another huge football team. It's like Microsoft part selling to Google. I for one don't want 5 -10% of my club owned bu Real Madrid, not even for CR7. CR7 will be 29 in a few months and you really think it's worth selling a slice of the great Manchester United for -s***
Mik

Agree with Dags comment 100%. I appreciate there are other members if the squad who may be no angels but surely Rooneys 'rep' off field is the worst of the lot.

Ronaldo is a marketing mans dream. £80m however it's financed to get Ronaldo home where he wants to play and getting rid of Rooney for the £40m Chekski are rumoured to be bidding would make great sense. The economics of having Ronaldo back and extra shirt sales etc especially in Asia etc would mean that £40m gap could be closed relatively quickly.

Lets not forget a front 3 of Ronaldo RVP and Kagawa, supported by a genuine world class midfield recruit that we look to be aiming for could mean, a crack at Champs League glory and not just PL retention is what we are capable of. And in a World Cup year being the Chsmpions of Europe would surely mean appreciably greater revenue also.

Lets hope Ronaldo coming home has legs!

Halesini

Would be plausible if Real Madrid weren't the highest value club in global soccer. Real Madrid would be more the capable of raising whatever they need to keep Ronaldo in Spain. My money is on Ronaldo signing a new final mega deal at madrid in the next couple of weeks. Sorry

Madrid are not as financially stable as people are lead to believe. Also, when we finish all our sponsorship deals and bring in the new T. V money, we'll match there revenue and get back to being the biggest club in the world again with our fan base.

When I see rumours like this I can't help but think of Reservoir Dogs and a good story being all in the details.

I actually fancy Ronaldo to return to United, but the above is completely fabricated. Great effort to come up with it though, your business studies tutor must be proud.