Manchester United Rumours Archive January 03 2019

 

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03 Jan 2019 15:38:37
Fosu-Mensah's loan at Fulham has been terminated.

This can be a good news for us as we
are in need of defensive reinforcements.

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{Ed002's Note - He was not good enough to play for them and is being replaced by someone far better. He is certainly not good enough for Manchester United and won't survive much longer at the club.}

03 Jan 2019 15:55:42
Have to agree with 002 here. I had high hopes for TFM but he did nothing at Palace and hasn't been able to break into the worse defence in the league this season. He's not good enough for a club with title aspirations, he wouldn't get near City, Spurs or Liverpool's team so he should be nowhere near ours.

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03 Jan 2019 17:03:39
He dislocated his shoulder and dropped out. Bit concerning he couldn't force his way back in at arguably the worst team in the league though.

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{Ed001's Note - he is not a defender, I don't know why he is being pushed in that direction.}

03 Jan 2019 17:33:04
He should be playing as a midfielder, that was always going to be his best position. However, that is a role that takes on a lot of responsibility. Whereas, RB is a "easier" role to learn in as there is less responsibility on you in that area of the pitch.

The issue is you only need a handful of games to get used to the faster pace of EPL first team football. After that you gain nothing from playing in a position that is not your own.

Sending TFM to relegation threatened teams, where the pressure is massive, it takes a manager brave bordering on insane to throw a inexperienced youngster in to the heart of midfield. So he was never likely to get the game time he needs in the position that he is best in. He would have been better off going abroad and playing in midfield in any top league than stuck in the EPL playing out of position at a time when he needs to be learning in his best position.

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03 Jan 2019 17:58:36
Another potential star mis-managed by our calamitous ex-managers.

I've lost count how many false dawns we have had in recent years as we have no idea how to benefit players from loan moves and no clue how to blood them properly. Such a shame.

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03 Jan 2019 18:23:03
Difficult to say which is the right view. Maybe TFM is another star we built up in hope but who is not anywhere near Utd standard. He did look good for a few games under LVG. I’m sure we will know soon enough if he’s good enough now he’s been sent back.

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03 Jan 2019 19:54:21
Meant to say it was the wrong loan. As shappy said he should have gone abroad.

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03 Jan 2019 20:11:46
Why not bring him home and rotate with matic and at Rb give him some game time between now and the end of the season. At least then we will know if he can be good enough or not. Let’s be honest he can’t be any worse than Valencia based on yesterday’s performance and at least TFM has a bit more pace than matic.

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03 Jan 2019 21:17:50
Could he be a centre half
Instead?

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{Ed002's Note - He is not good enough for MU.}

03 Jan 2019 22:00:05
Neither are Jones and Smalling but they've been at the club for 8 years Ed002; rather see TFM over them two.

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{Ed002's Note - as long as you are satisfied with complete failure - playing someone who is not good enough out of position.

03 Jan 2019 22:25:09
As with other young players TFM has sadly not developed and if he isn’t outstanding at a lower level club the chances are he just doesn’t have what it takes and is not going to make it. The fact he has not even established himself in lesser teams which says a lot. I always felt he was a holding midfield player and hopefully he will carve out a career but I can’t see it being in Uniteds first team now.

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03 Jan 2019 22:00:05
Neither are Jones and Smalling but they've been at the club for 8 years Ed002; rather see TFM over them two.

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the other players and you want to play someone who is not good enough out of position.}

03 Jan 2019 23:51:12
Will he be sold this January?

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04 Jan 2019 02:00:04
Always felt Tuanzebe shone more than TFM that season. He had Hazard in his pocket one game when playing at right back if I remember correctly.

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04 Jan 2019 07:50:52
Sadly, for me it should be 'Bye bye TFM'

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04 Jan 2019 12:48:03
Id like to see him get a chance on his proper position on loan to a more suitable team and then we can make a proper assessment.

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04 Jan 2019 13:17:28
I would keep him in the squad. We need an energetic screening defensive midfielder to break up play, (as much as Matic has been good he isn't suited to a press) .

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04 Jan 2019 16:33:03
Potential star is exactly it. But lots of young players can't step up to the next level. It could be due to mismanagement but most likely it is not. The coaching staff at United and at the loan clubs are unlikely to be wrong. I agree with Ed002. It's disappointing but he's almost certainly just not good enough.

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04 Jan 2019 20:52:45
Villa interested In a loan deal for him, as a midfielder.

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03 Jan 2019 14:51:23
According to Fox Sports we are going to bid for Kostas Manolas, opinions?

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03 Jan 2019 15:32:18
Rubbish.

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03 Jan 2019 15:39:09
We would be replacing an average defender with another average defender.

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03 Jan 2019 15:44:35
How has he come along in the last year or 2? He was doing really well a few years back and if I remembered correctly turned down a move to Zenit too. From what I recall he was quite likely to getting cards and suspension though. Any opinion Ed1? Maybe even a profile?

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{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the player profiles list. My parents go home in less than a week (well all being well anyway as they are not even sure if BA will honour their return flight. They refused to change the outbound flight so they could go to my nan's funeral as it was 'too short notice' apparently.) so things should get back to normal in terms of articles.}

03 Jan 2019 16:49:31
Sorry to hear about your loss Ed. RIP 🙏.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Singh, much appreciated.}

03 Jan 2019 16:55:17
Depends on how much Roma want for him. He's good but I wouldn't sign him if he will Kostas too much. Lol.

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03 Jan 2019 17:01:58
No pressure ed1. Do you much about him, how he has been getting on? I wasn't specifically asking for a profile as understand you already have tons of things to do on hand.

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{Ed001's Note - he is one of those players who is very hit and miss. Because he is physical and can be rash, he is fantastic one game and terrible the next, from what I have seen. Might well be suited to English football though.}

03 Jan 2019 18:23:53
Sounds like Bailly Ed!

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{Ed001's Note - a little yes.}

03 Jan 2019 18:25:39
Agreed ed1, from what I had seen of him he was a solid player when his head was on but just as likely to get sent off as he is to putting a MOTM performance. But if Lindelof is going to be first choice than a more physical partner maybe the way to go. But saying that if he is still as immature than who knows.

But he does remind a bit of Pepe or Ramos (but not a c##t like Ramos I think)

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{Ed001's Note - at least he would be entertaining to watch as you never know what you will get.}

03 Jan 2019 21:42:49
It is typical of Man Utd and it is where we differ from Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, juventus, real and Barca. We know koulibaly is one of the pieces of the puzzle we need, that skrinar is a close second, but we won’t do what is required to get them. Let’s verpool did what was required to get van dyke and it’s paying dividends.

Come on Utd, developer a strategy, identify your targets (including a desire to sign for the club) and go and get them. Enough of this cheap skating and opting for option 3 or 4 because we either had unrealistic targets or weren’t prepared to pay the price.

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03 Jan 2019 21:00:35
He is one those players that I will instantly like if he joins because that entertainment factor ed1. But might cause a few people to lose their head. But for sure he will be a significant upgrade on Jones and Rojo because at he will be fit for large parts. Saying all that ed, is he not seen to be very well settled at Roma and not that eager to move on?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - so was Nainggolan. Roma are a bit of a mess to be honest, the fans hate the moron that owns them, Palotta. They have a great social media dept run by a great guy, but the rest of the club is shambolic and the fans are protesting against it. So it might well be that any player will think this is a good time to move on now before it gets worse.}

03 Jan 2019 22:43:53
Didn't know that much about Roma's current state. A major upheaval might be coming their way it seems. The transfer of Nianggolan did catch me off guard. I thought he was very happy at Roma and didn't want to leave Rome even after his playing days.


And as a reply to Huggy, calm down it is just a report by some media outlets, a rumour. Also not getting your first choice isn't always a terrible outcome. Sometimes you just won't be able to get your first choice or 2nd choice due to various reason maybe price, maybe other options for player, maybe an unfortunate injury etc, . What does matter in my view is when you are buying a player you aren't just buying for the sake of it, the player has to be fitting with the requirements.

A prime example of a 3rd choice option performing really well is last year's Pl player of the year Mo Salah. He wasn't the first or 2nd choice option (I think) when Liverpool signed him, Brandt was first choice if I recall correctly and Klopp had to be persuaded to sign Salah. So not getting the 1st choice doesn't always result in disaster maybe it also might work. Bug I too hope that if we are after Manolas it isn't just because he is cheaper than other options and is seen to be a significant upgrade and at the desired level.

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{Ed002's Note - aroma are working hard on transfers and ha spoken to a number of sides and will be hip to the attendees in Geneva on 15/16.}

04 Jan 2019 02:45:26
Haha aroma, nice Ed02 :)

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03 Jan 2019 14:49:04
League wise we are still underdogs. But we are now playing (not withstanding the well known weak points in our squad) with real united style. Chelsea and Arsenal now looking nervously over their shoulders - it's a good feeling. Get at least a point from spurs and the rest of the season holds really good possibilities. Chalk and cheese compared with only a couple of weeks ago.
However thing pan out we owe OGS a real debt of gratitude and proving that whatever the reasons, our squad is far better quality than Jose allowed them to be.

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03 Jan 2019 17:15:18
We are definitely underdogs for the league, Liverpool have quite the head start on us.

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{Ed025's Note - absolute non-hopers rather than underdogs i would say DB, that ship has well sailed im afraid mate..

03 Jan 2019 23:55:54
Dodgy,
Meant underdogs for top 4 not the title!

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04 Jan 2019 02:48:11
16 points?
We’ve run down similar leads before :)
Though not with this squad.

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