Manchester United Rumours Archive October 03 2012

03 Oct 2012 15:23:24
Interesting chat I had earlier with a old friend of my grandad. He believes our attack will consist of Lewandowski and RvP next season with Rooney moving to midfield. He's adamant a gentleman's agreement between the player and club has been struck. Lets wait and see exactly what transpires.

Sydney!

Can'nt see rooney wanting to play in midfield.

I asked my grampa, too. he doesn't know anything but he'll ask his friend who is a baker, or my granma, if his friend doesn't know anything either.

Ok then sIdi..

You always come up with some BS..

There were rumours that deal was agreed in the window just gone syd, I think Lewandowski will be in the last year of his contract and won't be signing a new one.

Supasub

I personally think there could be something similar agreed with either Subotic or Hummels. There were rumours about 3 players coming from Dortmund, Kagawa being the 3rd.

Supasub

Supasub, he didn't mention Hummels or Subotic, but he is an honest and decent bloke that I have known him all of my life and he is part of the furniture at Carrington. He watches United at all levels. If it is true then ideal, if wrong then so be it, but this is a rumour site and when I get told a rumour I will post it.

I did have a little giggle at the way he said 'Lewandowski'.

Sydney!

Really hope this is not true Rooney is not a midfielder now or never will be he cannot/does not tackle yes he has a football brain and can spay the passes but you need more to be a top midfielder, I really hope this is not a cheap way out for us not buying a midfielder Jan or next summer. On a seperate note delighted and been impressed with Fletcher on his comeback always looking for the ball and will put the hard shift in, lastly been also impressed with Rafael he has been the pick out of our back four so far.

Damian M

But lets say this is true what wud r lineup looklike? what happens to kagawa if rooney drops? what about hernandez and welbeck do they have a future at the club?

I think we were linked with lewandowski in the summer but opted for RvP.

sulei

Can definitely see Rooney playing in midfield at some point in his career as that's exactly what he's said in his recently published Autobiography. He's capable too! Just wonder though, SAF keeps saying our forwards department is the strongest at the moment with constant mention of RvP, Kagz, Welbeck and Chicharito. Then obviously we have Henriquez who's just been bought and also Will Keane when he returns to action. I can't see Lewandowski coming in because we have more strikers than we know what to do with at the moment.

Ozwald

Even if Rooney into mid-field we would still need a DM to complement him.Although I think it could work.
DM
Rooney Kagawa
RvP
Lewandowski

kdevil10

Fergies at the city vs bortmund game!

Schmelzer pisneck hummels subotic gotze gundogen all players weve been linked with!! {Ed002's Note - Kolo Toure?}

I think Rooney into midfield is a logical move. Before you all thro rotten fruit and veg at me just look at his style of play - wanting to be in the thick of it and having the ball all the time.

I believe its the Rooney option together with Fletcher coming back to fitness which lead to our much-maligned lack of activity in the transfer market.

Lewandowski playing upfront with Kagawa in the hole behind would be a great option for a front 3.

Halesini

-----------De Gea-------------
Rafael----Vidic-----Evans---Evra
--------Carrick/Fletcher---------
Valencia----Rooney------Kagawa
--------Lewy-------RVP--------

Scholes and Giggs will be gone next year I expect. With 2 striker spots then there are 2 people in Welbeck and Hernandez competing for those spots.

Lewy looked fantastic tonight so did Goetze. Its the first time ive had a proper look at Lewy and he was winning balls in the air against Yaya, neat passing, great runs, I think he will be a top player and it would be a nightmare to see him at another PL club.

Dan

Interesting rumour Syd. I think it's clear that we'd like to sign Lewondowski based on the last transfer window, however I don't see Rooney moving to midfield. It doesn't make sense putting a square peg in a round hole. If the signing happens I think it's more likely that an existing striker will be sold to make way. We already have an adundance of attacking talent so this area can't be a priority. The big unknown is who in the U21 or on loan is capable of progressing to 1st team status next year ? Tunnicliffe ? Petrucci ? Lingard ? Cole ? Van Velzen ? Keane M, Keane W ? Cofie ? King ? Vermijl ? Wootton ? Henriquez ? Brady ? Others ?
I think that is an important factor that will dictate transfer policy.
PerthDave

Well ive asked everyone,the old lady in the shoe,the cat in the hat,and they all said the same,sydney is full of it,they reckon even if this guy exists(cough,cough hic!)then why oh why would he be aware of our future transfers just because he goes to watch the youth,and sydney my boy it would be far far from ideal to play a world class striker as a midfielder,ideal would be to leave the world class striker as a striker and sign a world class midfielder to play with him,now run along.
Mick the red fireman.

Damian M
Do you mean like how scholes is brilliant at tackling....

T14

Rooneys game is more suited to being an attacking midfiedler than a striker. Only because he is so talented all round that he scores goals as a striker. People who watch him play should be able to see this, SAF sees this and the coaching staff see this and I think they know what they are talking about! He will still get 15+ goals a season in midfield and will help RVP to get 30+ a season. Better for the team and gets the most out of Rooneys ability end of!

Dan

Syd
did you not post something like this about a month ago.

on another note how many people would know that fergy has agreed a deal for leb and he was planning to play rooney in midfield?

jred

Jred, it is well known amongst most that Rooney will end up in midfield sooner or later, he has said it himself as has the manager and even Ed002 who isn't a United fan believes Rooney is destined for midfield, but to be honest I thought it was a few years away from happening. That is even if it happens at all due to his contract nearing negotiation. But could he be moving there this season into next season? He played midfield against Newcastle and again against Cluj.

We know we were heavily linked to Lewy and what is unknown was whether he was instead of RvP or as well as RvP. Personally I think he was instead of RvP, but I still believe the manager will want him in the future. I was told a little while ago that Kagawa agreed to join us over a year ago in principle. The same person has said the same about Lewandowski and he made a point of saying it again. That there is an agreement in place for him to join the club next summer. Whether either is true is unknown, but the fella I hear this off is no liar. That doesn't mean who he heard if off isn't a liar.

You are right I mentioned it on here the last time I chatted to him. The only reason he mentioned it again was because it was mentioned in the paper that he could replace Hernandez next summer and that the manager will be at the Etihad to watch him. Whether it happens will remain to be seen, but thought I would mention it as it's worth mentioning.

Sydney!

Dan, I can see Rooney in midfield and I can see RvP and Lewy in attack, but what I cannot see is wingers too. So if this info is correct then surely the manager is planning to adopt a different formation? I just cannot see how everyone would fit in otherwise.

Sydney!

No dan,rooneys best position is just behind the striker the odd few times he has been played in the middle has been out of nescessity,your confusing midfield with playing in the hole,now you should know that if you watch him,we need to buy specialist not try and force a square into a circle jeez.
Mick the red fireman.

--------------DDG-------------
-------Small--------Vidic-------
TonyV--------Jones--------Butts
------Clevers-------Rooney------
-------------Kagawa------------
-----Lewand--------V.Persie-----
--------------------------------

Perhaps it would look something like this although I would swap Buttner & Jones for Baines & maybe Khedira?

Sydney!

Sydney,when anyone has spoke about roo playin midfield it has been towards the end of his career not now,stop trying to make things fit ur position,he played in the hole in the games u mention instead of kagawa not in midfield.very desperate.
Mick the red fireman

Nice formation Syd but we will always play with wingers its part of our philosophy and tradition.

Dan

Mick, Rooney plays better in the hole than as a striker but he plays better again as an attacking midfielder because of his range of passing. He doesn't score as many goals or get as many assists but he sees things that others can't. The only one who can pass like Scholes and I would argue that he has better vision than Scholes releasing players from deep. Honestly he has a lot of the attributes as a number 10 but even better to be a playmaking cm. It may seem like a big step for him moving to cm from a number 10 but all it does is get more out of his vision and range of passing which are 2 of his biggest strengths IMO. It's easy to say number 10 is his best position because he has been there for nearly 10 years in the PL but I think he will be even better as a cm. I would argue that Rooney was a square in a circle hole playing as a 10. An important attribute for a number 10 is to be able to beat a man and Rooney cant do this. Kagawa, Ozil, Hazard are the prime example for a true 10 and Rooney only does so well because his other attributes that are phenominal like his shooting. Naturally he plays like Scholes and he belongs in that position IMO. (He also tackles better than Scholes ;) )

Dan

Mick, Rooney has been playing CM against Newcastle and Cluj and only played against Tottenham as a number 10. Man of the match in the Cluj match if ya ask me.

Syd
the thing is leb's agent said a week or so ago he would like a move to munich .
i also find it hard to believe that people would no about such a hush hush deal 12 month before it happens to be honest
jred

03 Oct 2012 11:04:49
thomas ince you must be joking. Nowhere near good enough for United. Over on the liverpool site they don't rate him. Ed1 in particular had some interesting comments. He's more wigan or norwich standard than ours. {Ed002's Note - Regardless, there is interest in the kid from MUFC.}

I disagree with this Ince bashing because he is in the championship, he's just as talented as Powell and played at a higher level, but no one bats an eyelid when it's Powell. He's got 6 in 6 in the championship. That's pretty good. If he comes in, the staff must see some potential.

Sanshine

Ed002; how concrete is out interest? Is January a possibility or is it more likely to be the summer? Have we been in discussions with Blackpool?

Thanks,

rpc {Ed002's Note - As I said there is interest and Holloway will fight against a move. My understanding is that the reports of his father trying to broker a move is correct. It is not possible to put a time on it.}

Do you mean "Wigan standards"; like Valencia or Moses were Wigan standard?

Mike

Also of course if the scousers say he's crap he must be, then maybe we should forget it

Pardoe

To be fair the scousers wouldnt know a decent player if it smacked em in the face young and starting to come of age wont cost the earth and could be a good piece of business if not then no big loss and everton would probably take him off our hands or sunderland