Manchester United Rumours Archive June 04 2012

04 Jun 2012 22:51:23
I keep hearing rumours about javi martinez to man city. It seems Mancini has decided that he is going to spend £25 million and get the player. But why would bilbao accept 25 million from city but demand over 30 million when ferguson showed any interest?

Red steph

You've answered your own question . If city or utd ask about a player you can bet your life city will get quoted more, 3 years ago the opposite . So basically you've believed the stupid papers again

Dustbin

Think he had been mentioned as possible replacement for De Jong, don't know about anyone else but if the figures being quoted for possible Modric deal are accurate I would much rather the money went on Martinez

Charla

Is he not saying the opposite?

Dustbin that's not what he's saying! He's said that city got quoted less!
The only reason I think of is that you don't actually know how much united were quoted or wether they even enquired in the first place!!

Dustbin needs to learn to read bless him/her

Actually, ( and I may be wrong here), but I think Red Steph is a she not a he!

If I'm wrong then please accept my apologies.

04 Jun 2012 20:58:06
Anyone got any ideas on some possible free transfers for United? Essien maybe? {Ed002's Note - Why would Essien be free?}

Essian would be free because he's very very poor after all his injuries and his club want him off the wage bill , more chance of my local side signing him the us

Dustbin

04 Jun 2012 19:30:19
Rumours about united being in talks over modric.
SAF likes to talk about 'value in the market' and for me £30m on a player who is nearly 27 and wouldnt IMO improve us a great deal does not represent value.
However,i reckon bale for a similar price would be a really good signing,giving us a quick,powerful player,great left foot,good at set pieces,versatile and only 22
Would people prefer bale to modric and do the EDS think there is any possibility?

BABY FACED ASSASSIN {Ed007's Note - I'm not a great fan of Bale, if he lost his pace he would be very average. Utd need someone with a quick footballing brain and tactical know how in the middle a lot more than they need an overpriced and over-rated athlete like Bale.}

He's not exactly Ryan Giggs is he?

Andrew B

I agree bale is overrated just as modric is but if we were to go for either i just think wed get a lot more from bale than from modric.
BABY FACED ASSASIN

We could sign Bale for £30m rather than signing Baines and Gaitan for £20m each? Bale could be a perfect fit for our left back issues

Bit harsh Ed. The guy has got a devastating left foot. During that champions league hat trick period he was UNPLAYABLE. However, he has been mostly inconsistent since then;only showing the odd glimpse of that period in his game. I think Fergy could guide him like he did with Ronaldo. No denying that pace is a major part of his game, but the lad has talent too in other areas.

Do I want him at the Club? YES

Would I pay more than 25 mill? NO

Wait, I think I'm agreeing with you in the end.

BornInToIt {Ed007's Note - It's not harsh, Utd could sign Usain Bolt and he would do the same job. Bale is a typical modern footballer in England, coaches put too much emphasis on athletic ability rather than footballing technique.}

Completely agree with you ED007

Mad Hatter

Agree with ed totally , only players is like to fill our midfield are iniesta , xavi, fabregas or sweinstiger maybe sneijder but they're not available so we have to take a chance elsewhere but worry we shy away from the goetze's that are out there and keep buying even younger hopefuls {Ed007's Note - Thanks mammy.}

They must buy Bale Modric and Alba

We have Nani, Young and Valencia for the wings so I'd take Modric for that bit of creativity and ball retention we need in CM

Gav

Definately be better than getting Modric.

Bale may be a bit inconsistent, but he plays a ot like Valencia. Then we could play a traditional winger on either side, or a more modern style wideman (young & Nani) or mix & match according to our opponents.

Thorne

Modric is pure class. he is just what united need along side kagawa he niver gives the ball away

I'm really hoping we buy Modric as he will prove so many people wrong about not being good enough.

Some of you get so defensive about Modric.

It's not really about whether he's good enough (although there's room for debate there), it's about what he adds to the team, ie. very little we don't already have.

We have plenty of players who can pass acurately and keep the ball. The reason we don't keep possesion as much as Arsenal for example, is that we are more interested in creating chances than in keeping possesion, so we try attacks which risk losing possesion in the hope of creating chances.

We need midfielders who can increase are success rate at creating chances rather than giving awa the ball, or who can help win the ball back when we do give it away.

Modric will not give us either of those things, and would effectively be just like Carrick, except adding less defensively.

Thorne

Modric is an OK player, someone I would like to see play for us. However, the price being quoted (£30-£40m) is far to expensive. I believe (£20-£25m) is more of a reasonable price. If we are going to spend that much money on one player there are a lot of options out there (Strootman, Ozil, Granero, Sahin just to name a few).



Strootman - just as effective and is a better defender IMO
Ozil - Dnt think I need to say anything
Granero - has great dribbling skills, great ball retention
SAhin - Great ball retention, defending, dribbling, passing and is a goal threat



All are younger and technically stable.

Now on to Mr. Bale, why are we even linking him to us? I am not racist or anything but to me British footballers just knows how to play one type of football, kick it and run it down. IMO that's all he does, as Bond stated, if he looses his pace he has nothing else. Very over rated! I'd prefer Gaitan who seem to be more skillful and also has pace and a football brain. bare in mind I dnt want gaitan either. One good season from bale and here goes the British media hyping up their players to make them look better than they really are or I guess because they want to feel as if football is isn't to far off from other countries? Too much emphasis is placed on strength and fitness, until the FA changes the philosophy that is to implement skill and a free flowing football spirit then things won't change. That's why to me nani should not be sold (even tho inconsistent) he is capable of the unpredictable. Far more consistent than bale.

diego

04 Jun 2012 18:53:30
Just heard a corker.
Apparently, United are listening to offers for Nani - £30M, Touting him to PSG/Juventus & Milan.

Then using that money we are to offer Spurs £80MILLION for Modric & Bale!!

Net outlay of £50MILLION + the initial £15Million for Kagawa = £65Million

Then the sales of Anderson, Park will raise about £10Million

£55Million is about what we spent last summer so the figures dont make it impossible!

Like Nani think he's unplayable on his day... but i'd be more than happy with that business this summer!

Praying that its true!

Doubt it though.

PIT APE

Kagawa, Modric and Bale in the same summer.........is that possible...I mean I would be pretty damn happy at that but....

lewis.no.9

£80 million for Modric and Bale would be terrible business.... £60 million max please.

UNITED_LEGENDS

Stop playing football manager and return to the real world. We''ll get 20 million from sales and 30 million tops from the Glazers. Nani will stay as he's 250% better than Bale and even Nani not as inconsistent as the Spurs man. Maybe Kagawa 12 million down, Tiote/M'Vila 18 million, Marvin Martin 13 million, Powell 5 million if we are lucky.
Mik

We wouldn't offer Spurs £80m for Bale and Modric, £55m would be closer to reality.

Sydney!

I wouldn't say £80 million, the likely fee would be £32 million for Modric and also around £30-35 million for Bale...if we offered £60-£70 million i very much doubt Levy would say no....why would he? He's a business man after all!

RedDevil19

I would be happy with that, people are saying bale is inconsistant, yes but not as bad as nani. bale is like valencia a direct player thats how united play with people who work for the team not their name.
I cant see it happening tho, even if we do have 100m+ from chevoul (spelling sorry)
50m+ from nike
Sales from nani,anderson and park 45m (30m,10m,5m)
are wage bill has increased (not by a lot) from realising kruzack and owen
also de leat and mattew james has been sold to leicester.

I reckon...
Van Persie = 25m
Kagawa = 17m
Bale = 35m
Modric = 30m
Powell = 5m
112m altogther.
maybe more additions who knows ?

What about rooney in the middle of the park. I saw him play there once and looked quite amazing. Replace him with Van Persie to replace him up front. Just a thought, I'm a rookie at this game, what do I know

Can't see Spurs letting 2 of their best players leave in the same transfer window to the same team especially in the Premier League.

Also I can't see Fergie spending £80 million on 2 players. He blasted the media last week for reporting that he was going to spend £72 million on 3 players in the summer!

I hope not, Modric would not add to the team, and we can't afford to pay that much for a player who doesn't add anything.

Bale would give us a left sided version of Valencia, giving us good options.

Thorne

So Nani is more inconsistent than Bale?
Bale is excellent ,but Nani had 8 goals and 10 assists in 29 games last season, Bale had 9 goals and 10 assists in 35 games. I would be gutted if Nani were to leave. He is as talented as any player in the PL.

Forgetting bale plays for a worse side to get them stats? spurs were poor second half of the season! some of you lot are on different planets

04 Jun 2012 18:21:24
With us missing out on someone like Hazard wouldn't mind fergie having a look at another Ligue 1 player. Younes Belhanda. Very taleneted in the middle of the park and can do a job at either end.

Wouldn't be a silly price either for his talent max around 15 million pounds

fearny

We won't sign anyone on the bases of one good season...it could of been a purple patch for the kid. Thats also why I don't think we will enquire about Jamie Rodriguez until next summer as he could of fluked it this season..

RedDevil19

Think Kagawa's only come to to light this season. Hernandez after one good season in Mexico. Smalling after one season at Fulham. Jones after one good season at Blackburn. Think I proved a point, if your good enough it doesnt matter if you have only done it for a season.

fearny

Fearny kagawa had one of his worst seasons this season mate , jones had two seasons , fair enough with smalling An cnt comment on Hernandez

04 Jun 2012 17:57:24
Rumours saying Modric to be signed before Euros with talks taking place this week. Hope it's true to be honest i know people don't rate Modric at £30 million but at least were spending that much on a player wheather it's him or not.

United4Ever.

So you just want to spend £30mil on a player to say, 'Hey', we're one of the big boys too!

J - Stand

Never going to happen! Us United fans will have to face the fact that under the Glazer regime we will be fighting the smaller clubs for the 15-20million bracket players. Gone are the days of being able to compete for the top players so if the price tag exceeds 20million forget about it and if any of City, Chelski, Real, Barca, PSG or any other nouveau riche club are involved forget about it. Fortunately Fergie has been smart enough to see this coming and invested in top world scouts to get the best young talent before they become out of our price range. From now on we will be doing business Arsenal style. Let's just hope we don't become a selling club as that really would be a downward spiral. And we need to tie the top talent down prior to their contacts ending so we don't get another Pogba situation!

You're dead right. We are well down the pecking order when it comes to the modern day footballer. Unforunately money talks louder than history and tradition. The positive side is that should we win the signature of a top player ahead of the likes of Barca, Real, Chelsae and even Citeh, then he really does want to play for us!

What would you rather do spend £30 million or not spend £30 million? So for you guys saying Modric is not worth £30 million you will all be saying next season 'if we sign him' that he's worth £50 million so don't give me that. Arm chair fans.

United4Ever.

United4ever
I think you're missing the point. I don't think anybody is disputing what Modric is worth, I think he's worth every penny of 25-30million but I don't believe the Glazers will ever sanction that kind of expenditure as they are running United purely to line their own pockets, so while United are over achieving with the current squad they will not push the boat out on transfers.
I sincerely hope I am proved wrong!

He's not missing the point at all. A lot of us don't think e's worth anwhere near 30m.

A lot of us also thin that whatever he may be worth to someone else, he's not worth that to united as he does not offer either the assists, goals or ballwinning aggression that we need. You pay 30m for a player who improves your team, not one who doesn't.

Thorne

To the Glazers United is just a product. To sell that product (ie attract sponsors etc) United has to be successful - win trophies.To do that we have to have as strong a team as anybody. To do that we have to buy TOP players. To do that the Glazers will have to dig deep and spend. Am I missing something ?
Steve

United4ever,
If we did sign Modric for £30m and at the end of the season I'm jumping up and down like a demeted Baboon shouting 'he's worth £50m', then I would be a very happy chappy. In fact I'd be jumping up and down like a demeted Baboon! I just don't feel he's worth anywhere near that amount.....Oh, and you're right, I am an arm chair supporter, at least when it comes to watching Modric, cos when he's playing at the lane...... I'm watching the Reds!

J - Stand

04 Jun 2012 17:39:14
I hope Rooney goes for £100m. I would drive him to France. I personally don't believe anyone is worth that money. We could transform our team if all the money was availible for transfers. Roland {Ed004's Note - Problem is, would all that money be available? If so I would sell Rooney and invest the 100 million into the squad}

You are dreaming if you think Utd would get to spend 25% of the fee on players

Pardoe

Who do you buy to replace rooney then? {Ed004's Note - For 100 million you could get Cavani, Higuain or RVP along with Ozil, Sneijder or Eriksen along with a DM such as M'Villa, Martinez and you could still have a bit left over for a left back and maybe Kagawa.}

Manchester United is arguably the best club in the world as a business but than is reliant on having a team that can compete every season. I'm sure the Glazers are aware that unless the team is competitive their investment will go bad before they can wipe out the debts.

I'd sell Rooney in a heart beat if the money was completely reinvested in top quality players.

Don't think PSG would seriously pay that money though. Just doesn't make sense. City wouldn't pay it.

Utter nonsense and anyone who thinks the money will be reinvested into the squad need only look at what happened with the Ronaldo money.

Flimbo

Ed is acuratly right... if we sell current world class player we wont get another as incomming money will be gone and our board will be reluctant to re-invest those money and salaries
rodio17

All the above posts were written by people who live in "EA FIFA 12 land"....selling Rooney for £100 millon or whatever will not guarantee all the top players arriving at Old Trafford.
Yes large wages are and will draw players to clubs....but so does location. London will always win over Manchester....get over it!
Also we have to prepare for the Uefa rules on football finance. Our wages are running at about 46%.....Man City's are 106%, Chelsea's are even higher than City's......
But everyone forgets that it's also a business.....it's a massive gamble not getting your wages down below the 50% Uefa are wanting.....do we want sanctions that could see us banned from the Champions League? Do we want to be the next Glasgow Rangers?
Manchester United will buy the players it feels it requires and not the so called armchair manager writing out there wish lists on this site.
Will everyone remember, you can only have so many players in a ELP and Champions League squad.
Everyone get real, stop being jealous of City, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcaleona......and stop blaming the Glazers etc.....your all getting bloody boring and repetative.....

I cannot believe what I'm reading! Sell Rooney for 100million? No way, I wouldn't sell him for 150million! Not only is he one of a few world class players we have but he also has United blood running through his veins!
Would Barca sell Messi or Real Ronaldo? No way! We are having enough trouble attracting top players without sending out the message that we will sell our best players!

Ed i think your values are a little off if you think for 100 mill you could get Rvp, Ozil and Martinez for that and still have money left for a LB and Kagawa. I just picked 3 names out of the 8 you listed but applies for all of them.

Note to Ed004....Thats assuming those players haven't got the option of going to Barca, Madrid, Chelsea or Citeh!

J - Stand

Remember what happened when we had $80 million from Ronaldo? Every play in Europe tripled in value. Frankly, it's better to have to be competitive within a reasonable transfer market than lose a great United player and drive the spiral of madness upwards. For Rooney, we could get a max of 3 very good players at those prices...maybe.

It's business. Eventually Rooney will want away as he nearly did 18 months and not winning a trophy last year won't have helped that situation. We sold Ronaldo much to the dismay of the fans and I personally think that for the right price United would sell Rooney more so before his value starts to wane.
I think the comments about the Glazers holding back the money are valid but do think that at some point we will spend some money albeit having to balance the books at the same time, hence why this Rooney rumour may just have some mileage.

The only players as good as rooney are messi and ronaldo. n out of those you listed the only signing that would probably come to united is erikksen apart from kagawa which is done. and the money would not go bk in to the side as said above. we would be left with the same transfer kitty we had been allowed already for the summer and the glazers will filter the money out to pay their debts off in all their other companies

04 Jun 2012 16:46:21
You can choose to believe me or ridicule me but I'm telling you this as I understand it.

United are in talks with Spurs over Modric and are hoping to have a fee agreed and basic terms agreed before the European Championship starts.

The Moon.

Twitter rumour

It's all over Twitter so i don't believe a word of this for a second, makes me laugh how people come on here and say they know this or know that, most know nothing other than what is being said on Twitter

Is it?

Well, a mate of mine just text me with it, saying that he thinks it's 100% true and apparently one of his Journo mates told him.

So before I get battered for saying this, I believe it to be true because I've not no reason to doubt my mate.

The Moon.

We will see if he is correct but until it starts appearing elsewhere then i wont believe it i'm afraid, would be good if it is true but i've believed things in the past which turned out to be untrue

It make sense if we sign modric n use tunnicliffe as a defensive mid as i think the more game time that boy has around world class players the better he would become

Pure bull!we don't need modric!

Agree with the Tunnycliffe part.
J - Stand

Modric 26 - 30 - 35million. Marvin Martin 24 -12 million + M'Vila 21 - 18 million Total 30 million. 2 for the price of one and each younger and better than Modric
Mik

Moon

As much as I disagree with you, I don't think you'd bulls**t, as such I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. Would love for Modric to come in, great player.

Percy

Do you really think that Tottenham would agree a deal before the euro's when they could wait. If he has a great tournament then others will want him and his fee will jump up again. Probably why we want to agree a deal before the Euro's though but can't see it

04 Jun 2012 15:38:04
I don't think we'll sign Tiote, he's a great player no doubt about it but the fact that he's from Ivory Coast makes it unlikely. SAF has said before that he avoids signing African players due to the Africa cup of nations. I'd love him to sign though.

Hoppy

So are the Asamoah rumours untrue?

Sydney!

Probably.

J - stand

I don't think that will be a problem, i think if you've only got one player in the African nations it not a great deal. i think the issues arises that you've got 2, 3 or 4 away at the same time that it becomes a great problem. And anyway if United are making a move for Tiote then you know he's going to miss a few games through suspension at least!
Andy B

20 million for Tiote is laughable.

We have an excellent young squad of players with more to come through over the next couple of seasons.

After Kagawa we just need a defensive midfielder, maybe a defender, who knows. I think we are ok after that. We might not win much next season but the team that SAF is building will come good in the next couple of seasons.

SAF has a point when he says there is no value in the market.

Tiote - 30 mill (worth 8 mill)
Modric 30 - 40 mill (worth 18mill)
Baines 20 mill ( worth 7 mill)

Why get fleeced?

Nip

Nip

you just contradicted everything you just said. first you laugh about £20m for Tiote, then you say we need a DM, then you quote £30m for Tiote....
we need a player like him simple as. i have said since before christmas that we should sign him.
we have never replaced Keane at all and we nothing coming through that would suggest that

melwing28

Sorry...meant 20 mill for Tiote. He still isn't worth it!

Tiote is worth 15 to 20 million. I can guarantee he would do the job. I hate some people on this site just because they were from smaller sides they ain't good enough or aren't worth. Also dembele etc . They have both had brilliant seasons tiote 2 and will do the job

Tiote signed for Newcastle in 2010 for a fee of £3.5 mill so 20 million seems a bit steep don't you think?

There is good value in defensive midfielders I'd say 16 million for Tiote is about right. M'Vila for less than 20 million is an amazing deal. Fellaini, or Witsel 20 -25 million. (not strictly defensive midfielders I know), Sossoko 15 million. These guys are all 25 or under.
Mik

Strootman 15 million is more of a utd player than any of them !! sign him up fergie

sparkyred

04 Jun 2012 15:04:22
Would like to see a cheeky 24 million plus Carrick for Fellaini and Baines :P Would Everton be interested?
Jam

Ridiculous!!!
Don't understand why people are so anti Carrick... hes just had his best season in a united shirt and should have got our player of the season.

Offer Everton Park or Anderson plus cash for Baines... Felliani aint good enough!

Pit Ape

RUMOR has it that park plus 10 is going to land us fellaini

Aren't rumours brilliant!

Park and 10million?, no chance! What would you value Park at then? cos im pretty sure Everton paid quite a lot for Fellani somewhere around £15million so im sure they will want to make some profit not a loss on one of their best players. I would value park at £3million max so i cant see Eveton accepting equivalent of £13million
Andy B

I cant believe pit ape just said fellaini not good enough omg soft lad hes better than any of your midfielders,name a big club that wants any of your midfield,were the european champs plus other clubs want fellaini...next season every big club in europe is going to try and sign ross barkley trust me.Terry blue

Might need to throw in my Nan to sweeten the deal

BornInToIt

Maybe Park and 20 million for Fellaini
Mik

Again, people just think Fellaini is cool and good because he has big hair, much like David Luiz - both are liabilities to their teams on the pitch week in and week out. Fellaini scores some timely goals, but commits too many stupid fouls and gives the ball away. Watched too many Everton games to rate him highly. He is not better than what we have.

United will sign another attacking midfielder, a left back, and a holding midfielder. If Nani goes they will sign a younger winger for less than his transfer fee to replenish the talent pool.

I feel SAF may switch to a Dortmund-style formation. It is certainly suggested by his interest in Modric even with Kagawa nearly on board.

Modric commands the central attacking role, Kagawa, Ashley Young and Valencia rotate through the other two slots.

I sense Nani is off so a left footed replacement would be useful, however, with that formation you have two defensive midfielders (Carrick, Cleverly, new signing in the mix) with Rooney up top.

Pit Ape - if that is as good as Carrick will get then we should sell him while we can get a decent fee. He is now in his 30's. If he was that bloody good in midfield we wouldn't have such a problem. I'm not a fan of Anderson either but we played our best football with cleverly and Anderson in the side. Carrick is not gonna get us back to where we need to be. Each time we got a pasting off Barcelona it has taken him 6 months to regain confidence

Signing Modric doesn't suggest we will play a Dortmund formation. Even with 4-4-2 there would be room for Kagawa and modric. Kagawa would be used as a striker

04 Jun 2012 12:24:53
tiote of newcastle to sign for united

I want witsel

I want fellaini

I want martinez

Please nooooooo,

Well he bossed our midfield when we played them at St James Park!

How exactly do you know this info?!

Don't ask for a 'source'....it upsets people!

J - stand

Strootman, martinez, or marchisio please fergie !!

sparkyred

Based on what?

There I did it, I asked.

04 Jun 2012 09:27:46
Lavezzi to PSG for 27m euros apparently. Good player but a bit old for United's liking.

Devil for Life

That's my only issue with him, his age, otherwise a good player.

Sydney!

I thought he was only a few months older than Modric, who we retain an interest if the price is right.

Enigma

A good player but do you play him out on the left or is that too deep or do you play him up top and rooney behind then Kagawa in the centre of the park or do you play Lavezzi as the second striker ?

Lavezzi is practically the same age as modric. He is an exciting player, and he would have been a good addition at that price.

Millz

In other words we can't fit him into the current system so would be a waste of money if we were even interested.

But he isnt tested in the EPL whereas Modric has proved himself here and playing in Italy is easier comparatively to EPL. So, if United sign Modric then good enough, otherwise one more good player shifts and we are still dependant on Scholes(legend but everyone knows needs replacing).

Devil for Life