Manchester United Rumours Archive June 05 2013

 

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05 Jun 2013 20:23:18
So lewandowski has said he hopes to announce a move to his dream club this week

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Lets hope its us but looking more like bayern

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Problem is he is being very tight lipped about who his dream club is. Ed has also said that nothing is settled. He looks odds on to join BM, but we can only hope.

Sydney!

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Why would byern b his dream club. No disrasprct but when players are growing up they never say there dream club is byern

Ali g

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I agree, very few players grow up saying their dream team is Bayern, Real Madrid perhaps, Barcelona perhaps, Manchester United perhaps ( weather permitting ). Doubt he's coming to us but not the end of the world if he doesn't.

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05 Jun 2013 21:31:30
Ali mate, you clearly didn't grow up in Germany. Bayern have a huge following, and not just in Germany.

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Wasn't it reported a few months ago that he was willing to snub Bayern for a dream move to United? Was probably an inaccurate report but makes you wonder.

Brendan81

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It probably is lost in translation, but can you imagine a player saying this for joining a rival team in the same division?

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It's great suspense really - and would we be upset with the following?
Lewy
Garay
Strootman
Baines

But we really want
Ronaldo
Bale
Fabergas
Modric

Ha!

The first four seem like Moyes players - if you know what I mean (Harry)

Pedroknight

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He is going to Chelsea

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Shappy - Lewandowski didn't grow up in Germany either - although being from Poland - I would not be surprised if Bayern was his dream club.

redseven

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Shappy- I never said they didn't mate my opinion is why would moving to Bayern b a dream move from a player who was playing in poland a few years ago.

And when DREAM MOVE comes to mind I don't think anyone would think Bayern.

Although I agree Bayern are a great and big team just a little odd to me

Ali g

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Bayern are the biggest club in Germany, ans are currently the Champions league holders, they have a star studded squad and play great football. They blew Barca away 7-0 over two legs, and they are just about to be taken over by Pep. They will pay him top wages, and enable him to win things consistantly on the biggest stage. Plus being from Poland, Germany is a much better cultural fit than any other major league in europe.

Also because of the huge number of polish players plying their trade in Germany, there are a lot of polish fans of German clubs. So there is no reason why moving to the current best team in europe should be anything other than a dream move.

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I'm with Shappy, I would have thought growing up in Poland - Bayern would be every bit the dream move (if not more so than United)!

They're a huge club with a massive following and currently one of the best sides in the world, not to mention the geographical link with his homeland.

Ali G perhaps you could explain your reasoning because I don't follow your logic?

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Can't imagine that with Rooney looking ever more likely to stay alongside RvP, Welbz and Chica that'd we'd sign another striker who'd expect to start every week.

Ozwald

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After seeing some of the tackles he made against some Bayern players and some of the needless aggro he displayed to some of them in the final, I don't think he' Bayern-bound. Don't forget his national coach a few months ago actually came out and said "he's off to Manchester United" (or words to that effect).

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Shappy

On a completly different subject wasn't it you who was slating Evra and wanted rid of him?

Think you'll have to agree his form last season was very good.

K-Stand Red {Ed004's Note - Not really he scored a few goals but at times he was still shocking defensively and the weak link in our team}

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Ed04

He's been Fergie's 1st choice since he was signed and played well last season in a League winning team. To say he was shocking defensively makes you look studpid. Then again you seem to know it all don't you and Fergie who signed him and kept faith in him. well what does he know!

K-Stand Red {Ed004's Note - How do I seem to know it all? You are the one getting aggressive when people disagree with your opinions as if you word is worth more than others. I reckon you should wind your neck in as the majority of the people on this site feel Evra has been a liability at times defensively. Also suppose this is the same Ferguson that tried to replace him in the past few windows, izaguirre and Baines spring to mind}

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Bayern aren't really a dream club, they may be for current 10 year olds, they certainly weren't 10-15 years ago (when these so called dreams would have been dreamt), yes they have amassed a great team but that is because they are by far the biggest team in Germany and they have the largest popoulation/economy of any major footballing country. Do people born in Glasgow dream of playing for big teams in England, doubt it, it would be Rangers or Celtic 99% of the time so who cares if Poland is next to Germany?

German football isn't exactly exciting and until recently there were only a few real superstars playing in the Budesliga. France is currently where Germany was 10 years ago in my opinion, so saying Lewandowski dreamt of playing for PSG, Lyon or Monaco is either bull or he has messed up dreams. A dream club when he was growing up would have to be Utd, Madrid, AC Milan, maybe Barcelona, Ajax or even Legia Warsaw! Poor kid if it was Bayern but I hate all this dream club, kissing the badge rubbish, all these mind games are a waste of time, either say what is happening or shut up, even the managers are up to it now.

Sween

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ED04

How was I being agressive?
Telling people to wind there neck seems agressive to me but then again i'm not really going to let a silly comment like that upset me. I don't believe my view is any more important than yours or anyone elses for that matter. Just think although Evra might not be the best left-back in the world he had a fairly good season last season and deserves more of a fair chance from people. As for Fergie trying to replace him I assume he told you that himself did he? If Fergie wants rid of somebody they don't then go on to play 34 games the following season.

K-Stand Red {Ed004's Note - "To say he was shocking defensively makes you look studpid. Then again you seem to know it all don't you". In what way can that not be seen as condescending and offensive? You obviously feel your opinion is more valid if you have the cheek to call another poster stupid for having a different opinion and that same person has been editing the site for years now and will have read many if not most posters state they want Evra sold. No but saying as though he has bid for left backs over past few years it implies he has looked to replace Evra. It is pretty well known Evra is a big character in the changing room so that's a possible reason he has not been sold}

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Ed04
Didn't realise my comment would upset you so much, after all you have been doing this for years. You still can't bring yourself to say he had decent season though can you? Instead the reason for him still being at the club is because he's a big character in the dressing room! If we pick our team on big characters why don't we sign Scrappy doo!
Big characters get sold regardless. Keane springs to mind.

K-Stand Red {Ed004's Note - Your comments came across as you being an arrogant and condescending poster which frankly the site doesn't need. So he had a decent offensive season that doesn't excuse how poor defensively he was. That's exactly why he is still here IMO you have to have the right atmosphere in the back ground and its pretty obvious Evra is a big character in the back ground. It's the same reason Scholes, Giggs etc will be kept in and around the club when they retire. He sets an example for the youngsters. So you can tell me honestly now Evra is not a liability defensively at the back? Now think before you answer and think what a left backs primary role should be?}

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Ed04
I honestly don't think he is a liability however I will grant you he's is better going forward than defensively. I also think he's been the best left back in the prem for quite a few season in his time here, the season before last excluded. I completely agree with the big characters thing but my point is that although we want the right people at the club and in the dressing room they will not necessarily get in the team every week, like Evra, unless they are good enough to do so.

k-Stand Red {Ed004's Note - He was world class a few years ago and no doubt the best in the league then but recently (past few seasons) his legs are beginning to go and he can't continue to offer as much in attack and therefore doesn't make up for his defensive liabilities at times}

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I wholeheartedly agree with K-Stand Red's views here. Evra played 34 times last year, 37 times in 2011/12, 34 times again in 2010/2011 and another 37 times in 2009/2010. Not to mention the 28 times 08/09 and 33 times in 07/08; he clearly is a firm favourite of Fergie’s. If he wasn’t then I guarantee he would not have played that many times each season. Coupling that with the sheer amount of trophies he has won during that period, together with him being appointed captain on numerous occasions, I would submit that he has been a vital component for Utd during every single one of those campaigns.

Every players goes through periods when they are out-of-form and yes, sometimes his defending can be slightly suspect. However, when you compare that to his all-round play, his general consistency (e. g. not injury prone) and the extra string that he adds to our attacking bow, there are not many left backs around who can boast a better record than him. I think his small defensive lapses need to be proportionately measured against what he adds going forward.

The fact is Evra is now 32. He is not getting any younger and managers worldwide are always looking to invest in players to add to the squad depth – focusing particularly on youth. Izaguirre is 5 years younger than Evra, and Baines is 4 years younger. The reason why Baines did not join is that he knew he would be playing second fiddle to Evra, as he has made that position his own. He would always be an understudy to Evra and was probably too expensive to be bought for that back-up position – hence why we have gone for someone with potential, who is young and was cheap in Buttner. As we know, Izaguirre is injury prone.

When considering the amount that Evra has given to Utd over the past 8 years, I think he deserves to be treated with a little bit more respect from the so-called “Utd fans”, rather than them asking for him to be sold. I think people need to wake up and realise that they are just armchair critics! We all are! Therefore, who are we to question the professionals that have run our club so successfully over the last two decades!

Salford Red

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Salford Red

Good point well made. We're a highly critical bunch us football fans but if Fergie deems Evra good enough to play left-back then that's good enough for me!

K-Stand Red

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Evra has been one of our best players for years. People that think he hasn't been as good recently need to think about who plays in front of him, players like Young, Welbeck, Nani, Rooney are either not good enough or out of position. He has looked vunerable defensively at times but that is because he isn't as quick anymore and he lacks the support. Buttner and Fabio are decent enough back up, so we should be strengthening elswhere at the minute. Like in front of Evra!

He attacks and that is what we need at Utd not defensive minded full backs otherwise it gets even more boring.

Sween

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Forget all this evra stuff, I can't believe that people are questioning whether/why bayern munich would be a dream move for any player. 5 european cups, incredible support etc, and for many people who don't live on these shores, whether polish (like myself), german, eastern european, spanish, italian south american etc, they are a bigger deal than man utd.
Specifically Sween, saying that 10-15 years ago they CERTAINLY wouldn't have been a dream club is a ridiculous statement. look at their history, from the late 60s right through to the present day, they have always been a force in german and european football.
Personally I have and will always consider the 4 biggest clubs in european football to be us, real, barca and them. In fact, before one fateful night in barcelona 10-15 years ago, I certainly dreamed of playing for them (as well as Manchester United and oxford utd).
and that comparison with bayern and psg, lyon and monaco is "bull" (to borrow a phrase). German football has always been better than french and bayern have always been bigger than those 3 clubs mentioned

rant over

Jaxer

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Despite the name, maybe k stand or Salford red do not actually watch Evra closely enough. I fully appreciate what Evra has done over the years but he just doesn't cut it any more for us! And maybe it does come down to age. You speak about no support on the left but that hasn't changed much in tqhe last few yrs. He does offer options going forward but primarily he is a defender and not only is he slow getting back but I have watched him on numerous occasions this season just stand there and let players drift past him. Not even during counter attacks. Maybe you aren't watching closely enough or are having to many pre-match singhas!

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Got to say one thing about this lewy debate. Why would a player who is loved by dortmund fans and hasn't been treated badly, say their biggest rivals are his dream club? I know the example of Ronaldo is one but I think it differs as Madrid are not in England. I just cannot see how any man with any respect could say this after being treated so well.

We also know Dortmund DO NOT want to sell to Bayern. I think a bid of 20m would be accepted from anyone else ahead of a 25m bid from Bayern.

Lets hope my points are true and Lewy is on his way. I think we would walk the Prem next year with the two best strikers in the league and Europe would fear us yet again.

GALWAY RED

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In order to narrow the issues between us all, is there a left back out there who is available right now, financially viable and who is better than Evra?

Salford Red

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I am a big fan of Evra. He has had his moments and occasional lapses. But I'd rather have him than not. There aren't many better. Was Roberto Carlos a great defender (defender in the literal sense of the word. ) - no not really. Cafu? no really. Sometimes you need more than a 'stopper' especially with some of the formations we use.

Yes, lots of people here give Evra a hard time, but that doesn't mean there aren't lots of readers that disagree.

Great site, great opinions, great discussion and great arguments. Keep it up.

Shall we talk about nani next ;).

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05 Jun 2013 19:16:10
Luca Modric been told he is surplus to requirements
at Real----MARCA would b great Scholes replacement



bfro

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Nothing in Marca!
Very much doubt it.
Dylan

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05 Jun 2013 19:11:51
I don't know why everyone is saying that CR7 is coming to united baines or fellaini or even both will join

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This is what will happen

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Fellaini to Arsenal. Baines is not for sale so forget him!

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05 Jun 2013 18:01:19
Has Rene Mulensteen left United? I swore I heard them say on tvews earlier that 'the former United 1st team coach' when talking about Wigan job.

Welsh Red

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No he hasn't he's still at utd. He stated on a websiteNews he will report on 1 July, but he's linked with Wigan and FC Twente as Manager!

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Rumour is Moyes wanted to keep him and offered him the assistant manager position but it involved less time on the training pitch so he turned it down. Pity.

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05 Jun 2013 17:50:51
hi ed004, do you think that any prospective signings will be announced before july 1st or we will just have to keep sweating! {Ed004's Note - We will have to keep sweating probably}

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Keep sweating

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Why, when City have announced two signings this week. Are we waiting for Moyles to officially join and the deals are done or aren't the deals done.

Yours frustrating

A

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I can only see players officially signing post 1st July although we may get an announcement that a deal (s) has been done before then.
DPB

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05 Jun 2013 17:28:12
£34 mil sterling for a 28 yr old def mf who plays in Ukraine! wow

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When they already have Yaya, Garcia, Barry & Rodwell. Milner and Kompany can do a job in that position too. Strange signing, especially for the money.

Sydney!

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I still can't stop laughing! do you think there is a brewsters millions style scenario there? £22mil for a b loke who gets homesick going to the shops and someone who could have been bought for £7 mil in jan ha:)

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City fan

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Fernandinho is good, but about £20m would be a fair price IMO. But, what do I know?

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Well played shakhtar 34mil for a 28yr old player loved it, hopefully he replaces yaya lol because city have more money then sense! Lol

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And Navas has had the worst season of his career! That's Citeh's financial fair play rules in tatters with those two!

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I think personally they are two good signings. Navas if he can adapt to the premiership and doesn't suffer from the home sick issues is an exciting player, very quick and different to the likes of Silva. They have a player now who can beat defenders with pace. Fernandhino is also a top midfelder, anybody who has seen Shaktar in Europe can see this. Over price but this is City with a welath of funds and he was always going to cost a fortune from them. Value for money, probabyl not, but to players, definately. I woudl expect both Garcia (who has always been over rated for me, very average player) and Rodwell to both move on now
Invisible STuey

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They won't even be in the starting 11! Morons. They'd presumably be selling some of the following players at these positions.

Fernandinho has to compete with: Yaya Toure, Javi Garcia, Jack Rodwell, Gareth Barry, James Milner

Navas has to compete with: David Silva, Samir Nasri, Scott Sinclair

They paid all that money and maybe Navas could push Nasri, but he is not better than David Silva.

Fernandinho is not better than Javi Garcia. Toure is getting older but still, there's several other players he has to beat out.

That is absolutely insane unless they are going to conduct a fire sale of their bench. Pellegrini also uses a different system, which the current squad may not adapt to. This is going to be a great season to be a United fan!

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05 Jun 2013 17:13:54
Angelo Henriquez to Everton on LOAN?

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Martinez didn't play him at Wigan, doubt he would play at Everton. I think he may return to Wigan under Meulensteen.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I thought Meulensteen was staying though}

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I would like him to have a crack in the reserves (Under 21s) and play cup games, if we don't sign a striker. I believe he'll be an awesome player. Very direct and clinical, strong and determined. It frustrates the hell outta me that he'd sit on a bench at Wigan/Everton, losing his confidence.

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He would of played more if he was fit Martinez said he is a good player but was hard to play him end of season when he was fit because wigan was fighting for there lives can see him going everton as part of deal for Felliani

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05 Jun 2013 16:22:55
went past the bridgewater hospital today in manchester there were a lot of press and photographers outside anyone know of any medicals?

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Maybe Navas for City medical

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05 Jun 2013 17:20:09
Are these rumours about thiago actually real or are they made up

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Fernandinho having medical for Man City.

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Fernandinho to City.

Welsh Red

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Fernandinho? Navas?

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Could it have been navas for city? Or do they do their Medicals somewhere else?

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Ronaldo is in for medical

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No name Ronaldo quite clearly isn't in for a medical as it would be world news by now.

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They were clearly joking about Ronaldo

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The new facility in carrington will mean all medically will be performed there

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Yes, its guillermo varela

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Nobody has medicals till the window opens and the deals can go through

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05 Jun 2013 15:47:49
Are City stupid? £34m on Fernandinho and £22m on Navas? Ridiculous amounts.

Sydney!

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No syd.
They are wounded. Will do everything to clinch title next season. and everyrhing means paying hell as well

Rodio17

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I Don't even remember when city are not stupid or not spending rediculous amounts in transfers.

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Ridiculous values - absolutely shocking really.

Garry Barry to make way for Fernandinho, by joining Brendan Rodger's Liverpool possibly? I wouldn't be able to contain my laughter if that actually became the case!

WF Red Devil

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Desperation signings for sure.

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Will they still be after Isco though?

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Why is 22m on navas a lot? The likes of rodriguez and gaitan & many others are usually touted at 30m+.
34m on fernandinho is a foolish amount.

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Yes, yes they are.

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It's a drop in the ocean for them Syd but I agree it's ridiculious the amounts of money they are just throwing at players.

Simmo

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05 Jun 2013 17:05:43
I was stunned when I first heard that, I assumed that must have been his cost including wages. But apparently that's just his fee. that's crazy money. Good player though.

As for Navas it will be interesting to see how he copes long term from being so far from home. He could have a break down and need to go back home by january, I wouldn't like Citys chances of getting much of their 22m back if that was the case.

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The answer to your question is yes.

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Dont know whether they are stupid or not but one thing I can assure you Syd that Navas is a class act. If you thought Valencia at his best was pretty good then you have to see Navas play. He'll terrorize the left backs in the PL and one certain Mr. Evra will be ripped to shreds by him. Hope we sign a good LB. Navas and Dani Alves together at Sevilla were one great pairing at the right. Hope Zabaleta and Navas aren't that good.
The only problem can be that he might get homesick and may want to return.
As for Fernandinho 34m seem too much but they might have seen something to splash that much cash on him.

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Rumuors are that evra has signed for a$ monaco

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Simmo, can you imagine their salaries and signing on fees? Imagine the agents fees on top of that too. Crazy money for them players.

Navas' fee could rise to £24m. This is a player who is 28 this year. City were the only bidders and Sevilla were desperate for cash. The player has struggled with homesickness and panic attacks since he was a child. What plonker is conducting these deal?

Sydney!

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I don't know who is conducting the deals but he gets a big thumbs up from me :)

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Navas was amazing last year
37 starts in the league and 6 asssists with 80shots but not a single goal (Thats worst than downings one in the league for Liverpool) Might even be a European record for most shots without a goal
And in 46starts for Sevilla last season in all comps he managed 1 goal and 6assists
An out of form Valencia managed the exact same goals and assists in all comps last season but he only took 29starts with some of them at RB

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They are millionairs but still they are not better than united

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Yes they are!

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Yes navas is quality but he gets homesick on international duty so imo its a big risk at £22m and the fee for fernandinho is ridiculous.
The fees are nothing for them but I can think of many better ways to blow £50m but navas and fernandinho ain't two of them

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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If anyone on here could use common sense you would be able to figure out that the 34 mill quoted is nonsense and ridiculous. Why in the hell will Manchester city pay 10
Mil more than Yaya Toure for this guy? Haha. Keep your red-tinted glasses on. And by the way Nava cost 17mil rising to 22million based on performances.

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I think a few people commenting here will be eating there words regarding Navas by January. As a previous poster commented, the guy is a very good player, no name, you judge him by your opta stats, you obviously didn't see any La Liga games he played in. And in todays marker £20m odd isn't really that ridiculous. Fernandhino, though also a good player is a crazy fee mind you. He may be 28 Syd but so was RVP, not comparing them as players, but if you can sign a totally different player to what you have that coudl make a big difference and funds are not a problem, why is this such a ridiculous signing? (and let's not babble on about home sickness until it proves to be a case this season)
Invisible Stuey

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Im fairly new to the site, could somebody please tell me what IMO stands for. thanks

Shane {Ed004's Note - in my opinion}

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05 Jun 2013 15:21:14
Ed, have you seen Graham Hunter talkin about the Ronaldo situation and also Thiago and Fabregas? It's on a web site it's a must see, he was spot on with the Navas to City transfer and has a lot of inside information about players and transfers. Have my word for it. {Ed004's Note - I will check it now}

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Heard graham hunter on a web site sport this morning, maybe the same interview. very interesting. fingers crossed

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05 Jun 2013 16:21:34
I heard him on a web site earlier today I put it on here but couldn't remember his name sounds good though hope he right

M. U. F. C SALFORD

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What did he say?

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What website is it on

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Its on a web site he talk about how he helped united with thiago and also talks about cesc and ronaldo

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I haven't seen it

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A web site

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Christ it's not difficult which website was it on!

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05 Jun 2013 15:08:04
City have stolen the march in the transfer market by agreeing deals for Fernandinho and Navas.

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Naval is a gamble, the guy suffers with depressions and anxiety quite badly. Rafa attempted to sign him for Liverpool years ago but the deal fell apart because Navas freaked out at the idea of moving abroad. I can see him getting home sick/unsettled easily.
Paul

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34million for a 28 year old. That's insane. T45

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Mumbai_boy

Not really as neither player are hardly the top bracket, Navas has been hit or miss for the last3 seasons and Fernandinho is a good player in a poor league.

If they had signed CR7 and Iniesta then maybe but not yet, let's see who MUFC sign first.

Tucker

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Not worried about these two players to be honest.

melwing28

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I'd hardly call it stealing the march more over inflating the market.
DHK

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Yeah they've stolen the march. but they've spent 60 million quid very poorly

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05 Jun 2013 15:06:14
hes coming home he's coming home ronaldo coming home he's coming home. get in there, just what we needed

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05 Jun 2013 14:53:21
I think Cristiano Ronaldo - CR7 is heading back after the official man united press office tweet.

Umzii

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In 'The Times' newspaper they claim the tweet was fake

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05 Jun 2013 18:06:23
Obviously it was photoshopped! How many times it would have been re tweeted? and also no papers have mentioned it today. Shows that the picture was not taken from united's twitter account!

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05 Jun 2013 14:45:01
fernandinho and Navas to City 2 impressive coups there! red91

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05 Jun 2013 14:44:49
Monaco owners confirmed they tried to buy Manchester United before they bought Monaco, but the Glazers would not sell.

MS

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As much as I dislike the glaziers I'm glad they didn't sell as I wouldn't want us to be like a city or a Chelsea

19JackC94

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I wouldn't mind the amount of money they are clearly willing to put into the club. imagine the signings we could of made, we would have definitely been a major force in the champions league again.

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05 Jun 2013 14:44:38
So someone is due for a medical for MUFC before friday. if reports are to be believed, Strootman will be finalised after the U21 championships? Therefore expect it to be the young right back Varela or Garay.

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Its definitely NOT Garay. He's in camp with Argentina for the World Cup qualifiers against Columbia (Friday) and Ecuador (Tuesday).

James.

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Where did u hear this?

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Fernandinho or navas for CT

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05 Jun 2013 14:24:52
Just had a thought and was thinking when Gill went to Spain to speak to Jorge Mendes about Di Maria, was it just a smoke screen for a deal for Ronaldo and was he trying to keep it quiet for a big anouncemt when the window opened?

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Or was he speaking with him about the possibility of sorting out a last minute deal for Mourinho? The timing suggested as much to me.

redseven

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I think we were never in for Mourinho and even Mourinho knew it. SAF never explicitly said so but Sir Bobby did say that he didn't suit our requirements.

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05 Jun 2013 14:07:36
Ed can you confirm that Ronaldo declined the latest contract extension offered to him? I have a feeling that he could be the 'big' signing SAF and Gill were talking about a little while ago.

If he's open to a move back to United, we offer cash plus a player like these reports are suggesting then surely it's fairly realistic?

Thanks in advance.

Ozwald {Ed004's Note - I have heard as much as you have}

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Fair enough. Just thinking why would Gill and Sir Alex state that everything is in place and we have the platform (by that maybe hinting Nike would be involved?) to make a 'big' signing, unless it's anyone but Cristiano himself. If he has declined a new contract then that only adds fuel to the fire.

He needs to come back, Chelsea are going to be deadly next season no doubt.

Ozwald

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What if Moyes was the 'big signing' they were talking about? Him taking the reigns from SAF is certainly the biggest thing to happen in football this year!

redseven

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SAF says lots of things, let's not get our hopes up!

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05 Jun 2013 13:44:44
Kurt Zouma spotted with Evra and a Nother at Wilmslow
boozer!!!pictures on net



dazzle

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Useless without link to said pics

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Lets hope he gets signed!

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I've heard 'Nother' is going to be the next big thing, sign him up!

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05 Jun 2013 13:28:39
The CR7 rumours are on the Manchester United official website now, states about him turning down new and improved offers from RM. Nike helping with the deal, his house in Spain being up for sale. Him missing Manchester United and certain players, Could be something in it. Or they may not, just got to love the close season rumour mill.

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Would be amazing if it was true, BUT until its confirmed by Ronnie that he wants to leave Madrid AND come back to us, I won't believe it, Nice to dream tho. (TheInvisibleMan)

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05 Jun 2013 13:08:36
All this talk about ud re-signing CR7 is well off by all accounts, my cousin lives by the ground and does speak to shop staff etc as he goes down daily (sad I know) but he does and he told me about SAF retiring 2 days prior to coming out which at the time I thought was rubbish, and it wasnt. Anyway he said we are not in the market for CR7 as Real want more than 100m if they are prepared to sell, which they are not.
However he did say that we were defo looking at Baines, Strootman, Thiago (but unlikely), Modric is going to be the big signing and Wazza to stay as a pivatol striker.

Wouldnt be too dissappointed if this is true, would off liked Bale and Benzema or Lowandowski but this isn't football manager.

Time will tell.

Tucker

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Madrid will not get even close to getting that type of money. They will be lucky to get £50m for him given that his contract hasn't got long left on it.

melwing28

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How would someone working in the merchandise shop know anything about the clubs transfers?!

Ozwald

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Melwig28 He has got just over 2 years on his contract so can ask pretty much what they want. If Suarez is worth 50m and bale 80m, CR7 got to be worth atleast 100m in this current climate.

Tucker

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Ozwald

I don't know if its bs or not to be honest, but he did tell me about ZAHA and SAF before they happened. don't get me wrong he has fed my rubbish before now, but these seem viable.

Tucker

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Tucker, Sur Alex didn't even tell his own brother until the night before, and the players and staff until ye day before, so I'm not having it your brother got told two days before by the staff at the shop, utter rubbish! Also real cannot ask for £100 m, if he decides he want to leave this is the last season they can ask for a big amount as next year he enters last 12 months of contract, no chance of £100m

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05 Jun 2013 13:03:22
I really can't wait for the official announcement of Strootman because we've longed needed a player like him. I would already pleased with summer transfer window.

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If we sign strootman and thiago, ill be very happy. The lack of pace in midfield has been a problem for us for some time.
Despite carricks brilliant form last season, its still the case that the midfield
(carrick giggs scholes and anderson) all lack pace and stamina, and because of that, we have to play contained football nowadays.

If you watch when united have thrown players forward in the past few years, the defence has become totally exposed (-man city/basel/ newcastle away/everton etc. ) The ageing/unathletic midfield we have, despite being talented, cannot cover ground fast enough to protect the back 4 without the rest of the team also helping to compress space.

Since midway through last season (the year city won) we started to correct this by playing much more restricted type of football, and so instead, we started grinding out results.

Signing strootman, who you can see from youtube clips is very fast and a good ball winner seems like a great signing to me.
Thiago is more attacking but has plenty of pace to put himself about, so hopefully we might see him doing the same job further up the pitch from attacking midfield.
I feel these two would be great signings for us.

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And my local newsagent knows this weeks lotto numbers

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05 Jun 2013 12:23:27
Edds Seems that more and more people are assuming that Ronaldo will be back at united this season. Even a reporter on a web site who reports in Spain has said today that there is a chance that he could come back this season or next and he (the reporter can't remember his name) said that Ronaldo is missing united. Do you believe he will be back this season. Also the same reporter said that united made an enquiry about fabregas and he said he knows that for a fact but Barcelona don't want to sell. he said the main target for united is thiago and that united approached this reporter earlier in the season because he is friends with thiagos father so united asked if he would speak to thiagos dad on there behalf and see if thiago would be interested in the switch and that everything was quite positive. what are your thoughts on this? {Ed004's Note - I reckon Thiago is likely but there is no chance of Ronaldo tbh imo}

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05 Jun 2013 14:51:31
I agree that Ronaldo won't be back (hope I am proved wrong though :) ) but would love to see thiago at united fingers crossed

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The reporter was graham hunter. it was on a web site this morning

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05 Jun 2013 11:51:30
If we sign ronaldo how much is he going to cost

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50 million

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Think of a number, double it times it by 10, add £15m, chuck in Nani for loose change, and your guess is as good as mine.
Flyhalfmitch.

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£87m plus a substantial signing-on fee and a basic salary of at least £250k a week. So a ball park figure of around £150m IMO. With no selling on fee of course. That is why it is highly unlikely it could happen.

Sydney!

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37. 384m + 1. 279m (Agent Fees)

I know this for sure

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I don't care do you. We have just got 110mill from training ground naming plus countless millions from tv deal it would be great to see every penny spent on CR7 /BALE /ZOUMA /THIAGO AND FABREGAS

BFRO

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Why are people so optimistic about ronaldo returning?
We know real madrid will sacrifice profit before they decide to loose face to other big european sides.

I can see ronaldo arriving on a free in 2 years time, but I doubt real will accept even 40m from a side that, in their own little world at least, they would like to feel superior to.

Unless ronaldo has some leverage in his contract that none of us know about, I think its likely that this is the new red herring to sell papers throughout the summer, just as sneijder was last year.

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Of all the money that comes in about 80% is goes out to the player wages. In order to get the appropriate figures look into the income statement of the club. Plus 110 million is not a yearly deal. At least it must have a five year period. Do you want to say that all the money should be invested now and not be bothered about coming years!

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PR, I agree with the message of your post however I thought our wages are only around 55% of revenue or there abouts?

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Swap deal rooney Ronaldo and pay 25m {Ed004's Note - I would agree to that!}

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Isn't there a provision wherein players above 28 years of age can buy the remainder of their contracts. If Ronaldo has two years left on his contract, couldn't we just help him buy out his contract?

I am asking as I am not sure about how this particular thing works? {Ed002's Note - It is rather more complex than that and would generate a massive tax bill and loss, etc. etc..}

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05 Jun 2013 10:47:47
Delivery van at ot tuesday dropped off huge banner and flags with ronaldo / welcome home etc plastered all over them


rmilne/chadwick hybrid

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Thats strange I was told the same by a DHL employee

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Did you see this yourself?

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No photo evidence. everybody has a camera in their phones these days.

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Same I saw the exact same thing

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Flags with welcome home written on? Is our club run by a bunch of 6 year olds or something! Was there a crate full of party poppers?

HB

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Right so this "huge" banner was delivered in a van but yet you could read it. ? was it not rolled up no?

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I saw it it said DEVIL DUST IS OUR HERO -MUPPET

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I saw the banners it said
WE LOVE DEVIL DUST
HE KNOWS EVERYTHING
muppet

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05 Jun 2013 10:42:25
Ronaldo will sign for us june 17th £50m

bfro

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Would be an amazing piece of business, can't see it though, unfortunately

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05 Jun 2013 12:48:31
Be a fantastic day since I finish my exams that day bit I still can't see it happening at all, not a chance

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More like 65m

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05 Jun 2013 10:05:32
With erickson available for around 15-18 million, is there a reason a lot of the top clubs aren't seriously looking to sign him? Only liverpool and Dortmund seem to have a real interest? Also have we shown any interest in tello or Sanchez of barca?

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He is not good enough

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He doesn't want to move to the premiership?

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Totally agree he is a class player. would be a big shame to see him at pool. dortmunds supossed offer of 10m euro is too little for a player of his calibre.

ms85

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Not good enough haha. Ever seen him play? He class, a fantastic talent, would be a shame if we didn't at least try.

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05 Jun 2013 09:53:21
Looks like Rooneys staying, he's done an interview on a website saying he wants to play more as a striker and the United will see the best of him next season.

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He has no choice in it. Utd want rid of him.

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05 Jun 2013 10:54:15
But is there a place for him as a striker? Unless we play with two upfront then RvP will be first choice.

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It would be unfair for Chicharito. He's waited patiently and deserves his chance up front with RvP.
Unlike Rooney, he hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram when he's been on the bench.

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NoName

To be honest if United wanted rid of him and rooney wanted to stay - surely rooney can refuse to be sold and play out his contract.

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Giants, or sit his contract out on the bench for two seasons. That is what SAF would have done. Berbatov and Nani are examples of this.

Sydney!

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Also let's be honest no name poster, Rooney on form is a better player to have on the pitch than Chica. His vision and passing is better and he can actually score from outside the box, Chica is great but will only have a great game if he's getting good service from the wings or midfield.

Ozwald

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To the no name poster. when did you read that United were actually looking to sell him, if you remember they rejected a supposed transfer request so hardly want rid of him. and Syd. I don't think Nani is playing his contract out on the bench, he just isn't good enough for the starting XI and there have been no clubs interested enough in paying him his excessive wages to go with a transfer fee we valued him at. He's never asked to leave so I believe the comparison between Rooney and nani's situation is pointless as they are in very different situations.

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05 Jun 2013 09:02:57
according to reports from AS, cr7 put his home for sale, so clearly he left marid this summer. real don't let him to go in his last contract year, because the price fall down. ok, now he may go where? united, chelsea or ParisSG.
i will bet in united.

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Monaco anyone?
Hope it's us though

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I would love this to happen, and I'm not saying it isn't because all the papers are writing about this. BUT. if I was thinking about moving home and I was a pro footballer, I'd probably want to do these sort of things during the off season. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. moving house for a multi millionaire is equal to us buying a 2 nd hand car. just quietly cross fingers and hope.
FlyhalfMitch.

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Jonny. I wouldn't expect to see him sign for a club that has no prospect of winning a champions league next season. IF he were to leave, and its a big if, I think it is out of us, Chelsea and PSG. Not the greatest relationship with Mourinho, PSG not going to win a champs league any time soon as it stands, and can we even afford the deal? Will be an interesting summer either way.

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He's not old enough for PSG. It's more of a retirement home. Have we all excluded Barca from taking CR7? I hope it's us but I do think its unlikely.

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