Manchester United Rumours Archive August 06 2012

06 Aug 2012 23:16:02
Lucas Moura's agent has came out and said that there has been no offer from PSG.

-JakeW

In honesty, i get the feeling that either moura's agent, or the sao paulo president, are behind all these constant up and down rumours with moura.

juvental rates moura at an personic 40m, and apparantly he does have a reputation -in brazil- for getting good money from selling players. a brazilian version of tottenham's levy it seems.

Personally i would say that if this is meant to be an intelligent business plan however, im really not that impressed. They must think we are as needy and stupid as they are. Do they really beleive that media pressure is going to result in Man United magically bidding 10 or 15m extra for their player.

Sao Paulo's only hope to get over 35m would be if one of the super spending sides, most of who have full squads already, come in and pay them a huge sum. But why should they choose moura? At 40m they can buy close to world class players in europe.

Rather than being smart, I feel this sao paulo contigent are embarrassing themselves. Considering people reading tabloids are already figuring things out, imagine what it must seem like to proffesional clubs, who have connections, contacts, negotiators/financial reviewers etc. Sao Paulo's motivations must be visable to them from miles off.

Ultimately, the risk is firmly with sao paulo, not us. Will moura's value be able to increase beyond 27m playing in brazil? - he would be getting older, running further into his contract, and still playing at a c tier level.
They will have to do very well just to keep the price at its current level. Even neymar has no suitors at the 50m.
So they might aswell stop playing games, and take a serious look at their situation. If we miss out on moura at 35m i have no problems with that. 27m is a fair bid for both parties.

Finally a sensible post(the reply)
Long Duck Dong

06 Aug 2012 22:43:19
Are we still looking at Christian Eriksen? £20m has been bounded around that Ajax would accept for him, would'nt that be a better bet than Moura at £30m. Did'nt he also say he would love to play for united?
TotenRed

No he said he'd love to play for Barcelona.

Ozwald

06 Aug 2012 21:47:04
Hey guys last year my sources told me that Rooney would sign a new contract and that the meeting went well.

A couple of days after that Rooney signed and my sources we correct.

Brought to you FIRST, as usual. ( before Sky, or the National Newspapers), my sources inform me that 'RVP' will be announced as a United player by the time we play Hannover on Saturday afternoon in a £20m deal.

MANUTD1990

I remember that post, hope your correct again! -JakeW

Hopefully your right again and we can actually have someone on here whole posts accurate stuff.

WYTHENSHAWE RED

I hope ur right ive had 200pounds on at 5/2 that would be happy days was told 4 weeks ago about rvp tb mcr

And RVP is with Arsenal "in Germany" until Sunday!

Tommy

I have no sources but I can tell you for q fact that you either have no sources or your sauces have gone bad.
Mark my Words, Arsenal will never sell to Manchester United if there are any other options, there will be absolute outrage of they do. They will sell to city for less before they sell to united. It will Never happen.
You have a better chance of prying Moura from psg than completing this signing
Jauganaut.

Doesn't matter weather there the other side of the planet.

He wants out, arsenal have already bought his replacements, wit none they don't have as there paying off there huge stadium, funds have to come from somewhere.

arsenal and united have been negotiating for the past week, falright 20 million agreed And my source expects it to be announced Sunday.

SUNDAY I'll be on posting my victory message again so be sure to comment on Sunday :)

MANUTD1990

Jauganaut,

Unfortunately for you I think you are wrong mate, you sold some of your best players to City and that put them ahead of you. I am sure Wenger would rather sell to United than sell someone else to City.

I have a strong feeling Robin van Persie will be a United player by this time next week.

GDS

And jauhanaut wenger has already said that hes not selling anymore players to city, and with Mancini himself saying RVP won't go city, and with juventus saying he's no value,

It leaves only us, so come Saturday you will be first to hear from me LOL :)

MANUTD1990

We shall see. If it happens, i will post my congratulations but I have a feeling you will not be posting come saturday
Yes Mancini said he will not be signing rvp but he also said last season that city were no longer competing for the premier league He won it.
Jauganaut

That was to simply take the pressure off his team.

MANUTD1990

Nonesnese! anyone who actually believes we will get rvp wants to give thier head a wobble

1990, didn't Rooney sign a new deal TWO years ago and I do believe he had a meeting at OT with Stretford, SAF, Gill and the Glazers (via video link), and his U-turn was announced a few hours later.

Sydney!

MANUTD1990 is correct. As per my earlier post RVP will be our new no 9. He should have signed for us by now but wenger was hoping for Juve deal to happen, but now since it has gone cold, he has no option to sell RVP to Man Utd for risk loosing him for free next year.

Sammy_THEREDDEVIL {Ed002's Note - Or he can sign a new contract with Arsenal.}

Why would they announce on a Sunday?

Yeah when he signed his new contract I did post a few days before, and theycwill announce it Saturday not Sunday as I said in the original post.

Will see anyway and with the moura deal looking dead all our attention is on RVP.

MANUTD1990

And Sydney I got told days before the meeting that he was going to sign, that was purely a stunt just to hush up the green and gold for a while.

To prove we can still pay the highest wages and keep the best players.

Belive what you will, I've been told that RVP will sign from a source that has never been wrong in the past about transfers.

So untill Saturday comes I can only tell you what I've been told.

Everyone knows we're in for him and have been in negotiations over the past few weeks. And now moura looks over he's are number one target.

Just a question for the ed. any more news on regarding welbeck and his contract talks?


MANUTD1990

1990, I will give anyone the benefit of doubt mate, I wasn't trying to diss you, just posted how I thought things happened.

Sydney!

Oh no I know you wernt trying to diss Sydney lol.

MANUTD1990

06 Aug 2012 20:54:00
Ok so if PSG want Moura sell Javier Pastore to us and you've got your non eu spot for Moura and we get a better player. Win Win me thinks!

TotenRed

06 Aug 2012 20:44:29
We would never have gone up to that sum," Moratti said on Italian TV. "In any case, there are no regrets that we didn't finish off the move, as the cost was already pretty high a few days ago.
"The €45 million that PSG offered is completely illogical and for us it would have been very out of key with our approach.
"PSG are starting a new era, so they are completely reconstructing the squad. At least I can relish the fact I'm saving money."

well thats from the inter milan president so I think thats lucas off to PSG
jred

Why exactly?

Sydney!

Because i think money talks and 45mill will get him.
brazil newspapers are saying that ribero is not even talking to united any more
english papers reporting that united walked away from deal due to family and agent demands.
i would take whats in the papers as gospel but if morrati is correct then i think at 45 mill PSG will get him
jred

Those qoutes don't look like what an Italian would say, in my opinion those qoutes are either made up or dodgily translated by a site like....

I'm not going to claim that I know anything about the deal, however I do know that Moratti is a gob-sh!te. He knows nothing, talks rubbish and generally just flounces around trying to show off how much power he has. Your league is gash Moratti and when you are the most mental president in your country, and the competition is Berlusconi (AC Milan board role), you should learn to think before you speak. My bet - nothings happening with Moura because he's at the Olympics and they wont release for a medical, and loads of bids are acceptable to his club just his (also) nutcase agent is trying to get a pay packet. It might be worth baring in mind that after the Pogba malarky that perhaps its not the players we are trying to avoid, its the worst of the worst agents; maybe in dealing with these people the hierarchy at OT are thinking "do we really need this lad (and our club) being destabilised every season by this bellend?".

They were on Italian TV and a few of the english papers are also running the story
jred

06 Aug 2012 16:09:53
I posted the details of the Isco enquiry yesterday. I now know that he is purely the next target if the Lucas Moura deal does not happen.

It is growing more likely that Lucas will not becoming and Isco is the second choice, he is very talented playing either of the left wing or in the CAM position in behind the strikers (similar to Kagawa)

Think it's either Isco and Van Persie OR Lucas Moura and Van Persie and at the minute the first one seems more realistic

fearny

Just seen isco on youtube. looks good for a 2nd choice.

Fearny you know absolutely nothing. You regurgitate what you find in articles and claim it as you own.

By all means have an opinion... But next time do you fancy posting a name on your comment

fearny

Left side or CAM is exactly what Kagawa is. Why would we want him when we have Young and Nani who could also do the same? This really baffles me! Witsel/ Moutinho/Modric/Sneijder are desperately more needed.

Dan

Fearny
the isco story was on a few websites yesterday and was actual posted on here , " a cut and paste " before you broke the story
jred

He won't be a bad second choice. Technically gifted, left foot Spaniard. We could do with a naturally left footed player so he would be a decent signing.

RedDevil19

Keep being linked with wingers if we do get one of these players it makes me think someone is gone, nani or young, I can't help thinking nani is likely to go I find it very odd

Pardoe

Jred...

Did I ever say "I broke the story" no, I just posted about the more crucial details that the press did not report on...

fearny

RD19

Isco is right footed mate.

TK-Red

Dont shoot the messenger or anything boys, Fearny has a right to post rumours on here without ppl having a dig.

I thnk Witsel would be good but i think the only player that will stand up to Toure is Fellaini.

Cban

06 Aug 2012 15:16:38
Saw on another site that PSG's bid for Lucas Moura is worth in excess of £35million but the player's agent Wagner Ribeiro is remaining cool on the topic, saying the winger was announced as going first to United and now to PSG but he is merely enjoying the Olympics.

If Utd have £30mil accepted or less, why would PSG go in with £35mil. Surerly they would match it?? This tells me its rubbish. Even if the agent gets a bigger cut, the player has the final say so why pay more than necessary - rubbish I think!

06 Aug 2012 13:18:41
so its all going down hill for united :-} even by throwin 30 million at players you still cant get them i.e sneider,modric and moura.best off stickin to players like anderson how much was he 25 million

eire red

£18mil. actually.
And money well spent it was too.

Now get back to your Citeh page with all the other Bitters.

RedMist

Your banter is atrocious. Just sayin'.

TK-Red

Another jealous fan! what red team are you? liverpool? we should of tried to sign carrol for 30 mill eh?
duggo

£35 million on carroll how much on adam and henderson lol u really made my day bin raider

This will be Andersons' season, you heard it first here....

Dan

Luckily for you we do not want guff like Allen, because he would be ours otherwise.

Sydney!

You spent £18million on Aqulliani who played max 10 games for you then sold him for £4million. Good business

fearny

A liverpool fan talking about a club going down hill! oh the irony

Redmist

Are you having a laugh, 18 million on Anderson well spent.
You'll be asking for Ralph Milne to come out of retirement next.

Simmo

It always baffles me how liverpool supporters can take the mick out of utds transfer dealings after spending 35m on a horse and 20m on one of the worst wingers to ever play for england

phil

Liverpool will improve. As soon as you get Joe Allen for 15m i'm sure that th........... sorry too funny cant even finish my sentence, just dream about reaching the Europa league....

Dan

He may be a wind up but seriously saying go support city is lame

ms85

All i was sayin is be realistic an bid for players that u have a chance of signing,coz yous are all getting a bit depressed on here latley. an fergie is not far from the bone yard, how will yous get any players if he is not around to give back handers

eire red

We are the biggest sports club in the world. As good as Fergie is he will be replaced by a top manager because we are Manchester United! FFP will only help our cause and the debt is only going down. We have one of the brightest futures in world football even if the lack of top transfers are pissing me off atm!
There are new potentially world class 19 year olds appearing every year or 2 and with FFP coming in the rich oil prince backed clubs can stop pretending they are big clubs and we can secure signings for sensible prices. Not to mention the likes of Daehli, Pereira, Januzaj coming through the academy they are among the best players in the world for their age.
This seem painful now but the future is very bright.

Dan

In fairness I thought King Kenny did a great job, the way he constantly was waving to the kop was lovely, pity they fired him........

Liverpool fans had a say in the 80s just laugh at u now!all red fans have faith in saf.wasnt a great team last year and still should have pissed the so called best league in world.not even best team on m
Mersieside hahahha Carroll Henderson aquallini

Everyone one mentioned carroll but forgot about the lasiest player in the league berbatoff.couldn pay a club to take him. and henderson yous tryed to sign him aswell just another one yous lost out on.wat a future he has at LFC

eire red

Berbatov may be lazy but he still one of the most technically gifted players in the prem. If you look where swansea finished last season then think of all the players rodgers is trying to buy then you may have an indication of where you will finish this year. And as for world class players were missing out on at least were not missing out on plqayers that decide to sign for a massive club like tottenham who also like yourselves havent won anything of note for a while

We never bidded for henderson we made an enqury and when Sunderland asked for was was it 18 mil ( I may be a few million out ) I believe Fergie pi**ed himself laughing and passed on that gem of a player.

Seen the news toady pal? Selling your best CB to fund transfers....now if that's not a team 'on the up' I don't know what is!

Still you are right in a way, if we don't strengthen further we'll still only finish 30-40 points above your joke of a team

Gav

Yeah we tried signin him but weren't stupid enough to buy him for lud money....foolish boy at least lucas IS goin to be world class not like whats his name again...

We scouted Henderson and he was offered to us for 15 mil but we didn't go through as we wasn't and never will be united quality. Liverpool signed Henderson for 20 mil I guess.the joke here is on liverpool or are you guys so dumb to ignore this. UNITEDABHISHEK

"Everyone one mentioned carroll but forgot about the lasiest player in the league berbatoff.couldn pay a club to take him. and henderson yous tryed to sign him aswell just another one yous lost out on.wat a future he has at LFC"

if we wanted him, we would of got him, he is a UTD fan! stop posting stupid comments on your stolen laptop
duggo

06 Aug 2012 11:45:40
mancini said that he doubts that he will sign rvp juventus said that there intrest has cooled down and fergie has said that he is intrested does this mean that we will sign him?

That post sums up how silly rumors start and how fans can get their hopes up...what you've said is basically that just because two clubs have eased off on their interest of a player, it means we're going to sign him. Take a breath and stop multiplying factors so you get the answer you want to hear. If any player we're strongly linked with isn't standing with Fergie and Gill with a United shirt on then he isn't a United player. So calm down!

Andy

06 Aug 2012 10:31:55
Have it from a very good source that Juve are out of the Van Persie race!!
while City havent given up its now a choice between United or staying with Arsenal.
Fergie believes he has got his man

City have no chance.go on the devils.sign right back like ramos.

Its all down to whether the Galzers want to fork out another 5m. I'm not holding my breath....

Dan

06 Aug 2012 09:42:52
All these people believing PSG have got Lucas, they haven't. The papers just wanted a new story. Yesterday it was us, today it's PSG and tomorrow it will be bloody Blackburn for goodness sake.

PSG said last week they have finished their summer signings and after buying Lavezzi, Ibrahimovic and Silva etc. I think Moura will find it hard to get in the side.

As for Van Persie I truly want him to come to OT just mainly for the fact that he can score 30+ goals a season for the next 2 or 3. Ferguson did say that we need to score more goals every league game and you can clearly see he is pursuing what he wants! Kagawa (10+ Goals) RVP (If not injured 30+ goals) Same with Rooney and then Welbeck and Chicha can get their fair share too.

For Lucas though, I would say stop listening to the media until after the Olympics because nothing is going to happen right now.

Signing off, -JakeW

I don't think Rooney and RVP would both score 30+ goals in the same seaon as the reason they have done is because they are the main men. You need to play every game to score 30+ goals.

1redarmy

30+ goals a season?
Last year was by far his best return, prior to that he was lucky to get into double figures.
If we sign RVP im certain that Welbeck will not sign a new contract and we'll lose one of our most promising young strikers. RVP has a couple of years in him, Welbeck has his whole career ahead of him.
You can't play Rooney, Kagawa and RVP in the same team and get the best out them all. One of them will end up playing out of position and they will under perform. Still to find room for Nani, Valencia, Young or even Moura.
We would be over loading quality in the same areas of the pitch.
Surely we could buy someone we actually NEED for £20mil.

Anon E. Muss.

Some people on here seem to forget this is a squad game now and all players are fully aware of the fact, we can sign all these players and have a world class squad, with a world class team and bench, have a look at our neighbours, so yes we can buy all these players and yes they can all play in the same SQUAD.

Samster1

We need a world class striker to take the burden off Rooney who is a number 10 and should not be our top scorer. RVP is proven in the PL as a top player and is 29 so will allow the likes of Welbeck, Hernandez and Will Keane to still have a long future with the club. The only donside would be his injury record and how much he will cost. Playing wise and for phasing in future players he is perfect for the squad. If Welbeck cant wait a few years to be a first team regular and wants to leave then that is his loss. We cannot afford to take the risk on him now when city will have Aguero and Tevez, Chelsea will have Torres and Hazard and even Giroud and Podolski would score more goals than Welbeck atm.

As long as we don't pay over 20 - 22m then anyone who doesn't want RVP is insane!

Dan

06 Aug 2012 08:56:51
Any news on the RM bid for Nani? if its true that weve sealed the moura deal, then maybe Nani will leave for cash & Sahin?

MUFC

From what I'm reading we are a long way from securing any deal for Moura. If the press are to be believed, it is more likely that we will buy RVP.

Pip

I imagine the Nani sale if sold will be a cash sale as it will make the numbers look better. If we were to sign Sahin then it will probably be in a separate deal.

Sydney!

06 Aug 2012 08:34:05
Saddest news of the drama:

Sao paolo accepted PSG bid of 38 million for Lucas moura... : (
Next week medical....
: ( :(

PSG said they have stopped the summer spending, so this is 90% false.

1.Ancelotti said that ibrahimovic will be their last big
money signing.

2.I don't think the Brazil FA will let PSG have a medical
while he's in the Olympics.

He wont go united

06 Aug 2012 07:31:33
According to reports in Globo Esporte in Brazil, it looks like Paris St Germain are going to beat Manchester United to the signing of Lucas Moura after Sir Alex Ferguson failed to convince the midfielder not to head to France. PSG have reportedly offered Sao Paulo more than United for the midfielder, who was apparently told by people that Manchester is a 'boring city'. A medical with PSG is expected to take place on 15th August and Lucas will join the French club in January if they are unable to solve their issue regarding the lack of a spot for a non-EU player

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completely baseless in my opinion .......... media makes up his own stories when they have nothing new to tell

Are PSG even in for him? I am not so sure. Smokescreen?

Sydney!

Load of rubbish. Moura said he loved playing at Old Trafford before of the crowd so he can't think the city is that boring. Also he said he wants to join United as have his parents. Gilly