Manchester United Rumours Archive January 06 2011

06 Jan 2011 23:52:59
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@{ed's note - I don't think anyone could tame that racist little rat (I am being as nice as I possibly can about him) the whole family is a lost cause. As for Downing, he just doesn't seem to understand when or where to run, there is no positional sense or intelligence about his game whatsoever. Mind having said that, as I am thinking about it, the way United play he would only have to stay wide and whip crosses in, he might actually be a lot better for you than his ability if you get what I mean. A bit like Valencia, what he offers is fairly limited but you get the absolute maximum out of him and it makes him a better player in your side than he would be anywhere else. Kanchelskis was another one, he was such a good fit for the side.} Thats exactly what im trying to get at, he would be alot like valencia. he wouldn't make it at chelski or arsenal but neither would half of our squad players because we have a team not individuals.i know barton has had his issues but i don't know the full extent, so ill take your word for it! SHRIMP {ed's note - I actually can see your thinking on it, sometimes the best players for a team isn't the best player in the world. As for Barton, there is such a huge list of his troubles it would fill pages and pages.}

06 Jan 2011 23:33:20
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@SHRIMP {ed's note - I am not a fan of Downing, spent a lot of time watching Boro train a few years back and he never impressed me. I always thought Adam Johnson looked twice the player, I have definitely not changed my mind. As for Barton, he is scum of the worst kind, got ability but he would tear the dressing room apart.}

sorry ed i disagree on the downing point, he had a couple of cracking seasons before he left boro and he hasnt done badly coming back from long term injury either. Would rather Johnson but he would cost us quadruple and don't think hes 4 times better. Understand the barton fears, do you not think fergie could tame him? i think a club like united would make him a better player and person. SHRIMP {ed's note - I don't think anyone could tame that racist little rat (I am being as nice as I possibly can about him) the whole family is a lost cause. As for Downing, he just doesn't seem to understand when or where to run, there is no positional sense or intelligence about his game whatsoever. Mind having said that, as I am thinking about it, the way United play he would only have to stay wide and whip crosses in, he might actually be a lot better for you than his ability if you get what I mean. A bit like Valencia, what he offers is fairly limited but you get the absolute maximum out of him and it makes him a better player in your side than he would be anywhere else. Kanchelskis was another one, he was such a good fit for the side.}

06 Jan 2011 23:18:07
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"Get ready to say hello to kaka and lass diarra and pepe. jose mourinho building Manchester United for when he takes over the reign from sir alex. FACT
skillion"

@Why would he use Real Madrid rejects to build a United team? Fergie is not leaving for another five years, Kaka will be 34 by then, Diarra 29 & Pepe would be 33.

Sorry mate but you logic is flawed. The amount of people still caught up in the past makes me giggle, Kaka is finished, overpriced & his wages would be criminal. It will never happen, Spanish papers/Real Madrid papers want to offload him permanently now they do not need him anymore, so they are using United by linking him to us so that teams like City or Inter will come in for him and buy him. If you believe it then you are fools.

Sydney!

06 Jan 2011 23:16:22
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@WTF would we want Downing he's rubbish compared to what we have already
There is no chance we would buy him, yes agreed English players would be great but lets at least try and find someone half decent

Pardoe

Thats crap Pardoe, he's consistent and would bang those crosses in all day long for everyone else to tap in. In my opinion he's the english version of valencia, how many assists did he get when rooney went on the rampage? Also, can't wait for your reply, our hargreaves situation could be solved by joey barton, box to box, good tackle and on his day he can boss it just like keano did. two brilliant buys imo, cheapish too, 17 mill for both tops? what do you think ed? SHRIMP {ed's note - I am not a fan of Downing, spent a lot of time watching Boro train a few years back and he never impressed me. I always thought Adam Johnson looked twice the player, I have definitely not changed my mind. As for Barton, he is scum of the worst kind, got ability but he would tear the dressing room apart.}

06 Jan 2011 23:12:52
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"Not Manchester United LIES AND MADE UP CRAP THAT HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY"

And who the hell are you to decide that?

06 Jan 2011 23:00:59
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Yep i can confirm that Kaka is as we speak on the pitch playing for Real.
So Redcafe and Funky pigion, go get a job and stop posting crap.

Thank you


Thats a bit harsh, didn't they say that it was Kaka's representatives that were at OT? As far as I can see none of them are playing for Madrid!

06 Jan 2011 22:56:27
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In response to this. .
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I am not Funky Pigion or Redcafe but you know I am fed up with people saying stuff like the above. If you want facts go and read BBC. The clue is in the title, "Manchester United Rumours" , it is what the site is about.
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Yeah, Manchester United RUMOURS.

Not Manchester United LIES AND MADE UP CRAP THAT HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY.

06 Jan 2011 22:32:43
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How much would you guys say Hernandez is worth?

Believable - 20m+
Unbelievable - Under 20m

06 Jan 2011 22:27:54
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Yep i can confirm that Kaka is as we speak on the pitch playing for Real.
So Redcafe and Funky pigion, go get a job and stop posting crap.

Thank you

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To be fair they both said Kaka's representatives not Kaka himself as another poster suggested.

06 Jan 2011 22:14:08
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RE: Kaka 'sighting' in OT car park this morning.

He sure made it back to Madrid quick as he's coming on for Real now!

06 Jan 2011 21:39:04
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I've been thinking about this whole winger thing and i've come up with a name and it's one hell of a name. lol. wat do we think of Bal?°zs Dzsudzs?°k? he's a hungarian international, plays on the left wing, is left footed, is 24 so is experianced enough, has scored 38 goals in 100 matches for psv with bucket loads of assists, would be cheap(most likely around 8M). i feel if we were to sign a winger then this guy would be top of my list.
Shappy

06 Jan 2011 21:37:17
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As much as I am gutted to hear about Hargreaves (if it is true), I think we should move on. We lack a player of his qualities so I think we should go out and find a similar player, hard I know.

But there is no point in leaving a position to be filled by an unavailable player. Sad news for everyone :(

SAF will be in the market to replace the position come June. Any idea's on a suitable replacement?

EireRed

06 Jan 2011 20:33:56
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"Red Man
{Editor's note - Yes, it is believed to be around 13 million or so}"

Believable (1) Unbelievable (7)

Anyone like to tell me what people are voting on? His retirement? His insurance payout? The free kicks?

06 Jan 2011 19:52:03
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"Hargreaves will announce his retirement in the next day or 2.

What a blow. The guy was class. I'm gutted.

Source- unfortunately very reliable and was gutted himself. Staff member at C on medical side.

Respect to him he was the business."

Yes, if true , quality player, sad for Utd and for the player who could have achieved far more with us.

We all know his qualities but one thing easily overlooked is his ability at free kicks. It was something extra he offered to us like Ronaldo and we are not getting it at the moment.

Sure he will be financially well looked after which will comfort him. Maybe Fergie will look to find a coaching role for him, although with Nev & co we could end up with more coaches than players.

Wonder if we get an insurance payout?

Red Man
{Editor's note - Yes, it is believed to be around 13 million or so}

06 Jan 2011 19:21:24
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Ngiak, you seem to be certain United donot have any funds whatsoever with all your negativity.could tell us why your on this site if your going to slam people's rumours with your obvious mentality "we have no funds?"m.r Bk

06 Jan 2011 18:21:03
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To the fella who works in the Red Cafe, why talk so much bullsh*t. There is not a chance of us getting Kaka

06 Jan 2011 18:17:43
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To Red Man

"Just a thought for all of you that believe this Qatar ownership rumour that keeps doing the rounds.

1. Don't they own Malaga FC, and are trying to turn them in to Spain's version of City."

Answer- No idea but if they have ambition and want to get a world reknowned club, Malaga or us?

"2. Haven't they just sponsored Barcelona's shirt."

Answer - Irrelevant to ownership issues.

"3. Haven't the Glazers said on umpteen occasions that they have no intention of selling United at any price."

Answer- No doubt they also tell everyone that their Mall business is going well! Its called holding out to get the price you want. One question remains unanswered for me and that is the one where people say the Glazers will hold on, pay off a little of the debt and sell in 7 , 8 years. Ok there are only a few people who could afford to buy us now Qatar being one of them. If you see the value of the club going up then who could buy us in 10 years? Probably even fewer than now, if anyone. The Glazers bought us as venture to increase our asset value and sell. It depends when they think they can maximise the sale now. Given their other financial problems and they will know whether there is a financial advantage to get a large cash inflow now. They also may be more desperate than we know given the economy and the Mall issue in the US.


The don't look very desperate to me mate, go on First Allied Corporations website, that might open your eyes a little. The Glazers own real estate all over the US. The US where there are more Billionaires than Abu Dhabi or Qatar for that matter. Don't keep holding out hope of a City type takeover it ain't going to happen mate. United aren't in a vulnerable position. City got bailed out at the last minute when vulnerable. Shinawatra sold their soul completely mate. How bile forming is that, having a banner up in your stadium that reads 'Manchester thanks Sheikh Mansour' The mancunians amongst them must cringe at the sight of it. Its an acknowledgement that nothing they will ever achieve again, will be to the credit of Manchester, or anything generated by the own club and its fans. Do you really want that at United, thanks but no thanks. We are a proud club remember, with traditions to protect.

The Glazers hold all the aces Red Man. Do they look like they are desperate to sell Darcie Glazer has just bought a mansion in Florida for $20m, and Bryan Glazer has just bought an apartment in Chicago for $6m. We are one of the most valuable sporting assets in the world. Enough of this takeover talk its complete rubbish. Its a bit like you owning Dallas Cowboys or the New York Yankees. Would you sell them cheaply if you owned them. No, and neither will the Glazers sell United.

They are here for a long time people get used to it, and by the way we don't seem to be doing that bad under their tenure do we.


Mike the Moston Red

06 Jan 2011 18:05:55
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Reply for

""Manchester United Rumours
I work in the red cafe at OT and we got told that KAKA's people were at OT today, didn't say KAKA was himself like previous post said but def his people were. My boss has lunch with other bosses from other departments and that was what he was told this dinner. Plus they all reckon the Qatar stories are not just rumours as between Christmas & New Year lots of meetings going on at OT with directors and gill etc so something is going on. And they had to lay special stuff on for VIP's. That is as much as I know.

Anon. for obvious reasons.""

ANOTHER CRAP FROM AN IDIOT. .

06 Jan 2011 17:21:15
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To the guy who asked if qatar holdings own malaga,

no qatar holdings dont, however, a businessman (Sheikh Abdullah Al Thani ) part of the qatar royal family does.
he's a billionaire so he's funding these moves with his own money. if you look they havnt had huge out lays on players. baptista only cost 2 mill.

so, as qatar holdings don't own malaga they can purchase united if they wish.

06 Jan 2011 16:51:06
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To Mike the Moston Red

"Just a thought for all of you that believe this Qatar ownership rumour that keeps doing the rounds.

1. Don't they own Malaga FC, and are trying to turn them in to Spain's version of City."

Answer- No idea but if they have ambition and want to get a world reknowned club, Malaga or us?

"2. Haven't they just sponsored Barcelona's shirt."

Answer - Irrelevant to ownership issues.

"3. Haven't the Glazers said on umpteen occasions that they have no intention of selling United at any price."

Answer- No doubt they also tell everyone that their Mall business is going well! Its called holding out to get the price you want. One question remains unanswered for me and that is the one where people say the Glazers will hold on, pay off a little of the debt and sell in 7 , 8 years. Ok there are only a few people who could afford to buy us now Qatar being one of them. If you see the value of the club going up then who could buy us in 10 years? Probably even fewer than now, if anyone. The Glazers bought us as venture to increase our asset value and sell. It depends when they think they can maximise the sale now. Given their other financial problems and they will know whether there is a financial advantage to get a large cash inflow now. They also may be more desperate than we know given the economy and the Mall issue in the US.


Red Man

06 Jan 2011 16:00:13
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Hey, my dad work on trafford park independently, he fixes fork lift trucks. he has been working today in the DHL freight depot fixing a side loader not to far from Old trafford. A guy came in saying KAKA is at old trafford. M y dad said bol*ocks but the guy has a picture on his mobile of Fergie and KAKA, it is through a gap in the fencing. It does look like them both but I am sceptical, my dad has mms it to me. .make of it what u will


Post it somewhere then so we can see this pic?

Jake

06 Jan 2011 14:53:20
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*I disagree Sydney! Casillas still has a good 6-7 years left in him if he chooses to and by that point Im sure another keeper would have come through the ranks somewhere to take Madrid and Barca's attention.
We United fans seem to have been burnt by the Ronaldo affair in that we all now seem to presume the top players will want to move on at some point to a big spanish club. Lets not forget that we are the biggest club in the world and , working on the basis that we consistently win trophies, there is no reason why a player shouldnt want to stay long term. Real and Barca may very well be going through yet another one of their many "transitional" periods in 5 years and he may not fancy it. If we signed De Gea I would expect him to stay atleast 10-12 years if not longer.

TK-Red

@Its just common sense mate, he will be the Spain number one within a few years, its inevitable he will want to go home at some point, I am not at all burnt by the Ronaldo affair, the difference is De Gea is Spanish, and he is going to want to start a family in his home country at some point. I doubt he would stay in England any longer than Five years. If Barcelona wanted him he would be gone before that imo. You can never expect a Spanish player to stay in cold old England for 10-12 years, that's ludicrous!

Barcelona are big fans of De Gea and if they do not beat us to his signature they will certainly buy him from us a few years down the line when Valdez is on his way out. Its unlikely he would turn them down either.

Sydney!

06 Jan 2011 14:27:20
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"When fergie says experience keeper maybe he means a 35yr old? around that who would play for maybe 4-5 years and then amos could be no1"

@Its highly unlikely Amos will make it at United, he has no Xfactor about him.

Sydney! {ed's note - I don't know, I would vote for him! ;o)}

06 Jan 2011 13:51:44
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De Gea is the best goalkeeper to get don't matter bout his age he is gd enough and with him we won't have to buy a no 1 for like 10 - 15 years if he stays

06 Jan 2011 13:19:19
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Oh, he can't speak english, but it's okay when Anderson can't speak good english, or when Nani, Vidic and Evra came they weren't exactly fluent, if you don't like him then fair enough but you can't deny the kid is very good, he's not as good as De Gea in terms of ability but in Experience he more than makes up for that.

The Moon.

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He has experience in a pretty poor league with a few games in Europe. He is only the goalkeeper in the national team because there is no other decent russian goalkeeper.

He is no better than Foster or Robinson in the Premier League and i think noone would want someone like them as our nr.1 goalie. Like the two english goalkeepers he is just a good shot stopper on the line but isn't good at anything else.

The comparison to Reina is laughable. Reina is one of the best keepers in the world and is a very complete goalkeeper and not just a one dimensional keeper like Akinfeev.

This is not about not liking him. I've seen him playing often enough and the only good thing about him are his reflexes on the line but if you want someone like this you could get a lot more cheaper options who are even better than him. Craig Gordon for example would be cheaper and is a lot more complete than him.

Akinfeev in the Premier League would be a recipe for disaster (our own Flapiansky). DeGea shows a lot more promise and is more complete in his game. He even lead Atletico to the win of the Europa League when he was just 19 years old. He showed how he can cope with high pressure games.

If we really want an experienced keeper than we should look at someone like Buffon or Diego Lopez.

06 Jan 2011 11:57:19
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So, all the sites this morning stating the obvious about 6+ players leaving in the summer.

Scholes, Neville, VDS and Giggs all have been replaced through player progression by the likes of Anderson, Rafael and Nani.

But that's only 3 players, and with a further few leaving, Hargreaves, Brown, and possibly 1 more, its clear evidence that SAF will buy 3+ in the summer to fill out the squad, or we could see some youth brought forward.

Although SAF stated that they have no time to have ''break in seasons'', and that's just what you get with youth players

There will definetly be more than 3 signings in the summer!

06 Jan 2011 11:45:05
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Just a thought for all of you that believe this Qatar ownership rumour that keeps doing the rounds.

1. Don't they own Malaga FC, and are trying to turn them in to Spain's version of City.

2. Haven't they just sponsored Barcelona's shirt.

3. Haven't the Glazers said on umpteen occasions that they have no intention of selling United at any price.

4. To the bloke who said there was a rumour going round that Qatar Holdings were at the match on Tuesday. Well I saw the lead singer of Stereophonics with Rooney in a box, it doesn't necessarily mean Rooney will be playing bass on the next world tour.

Mike the Moston Red {ed's note - Rooney is not playing bass on their next tour? May as well rip up that betting slip then *sighs* that will teach me to listen to rumours......}

06 Jan 2011 11:41:07
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Kaka's agent has confirmed contact from Manchester United, after suffering from injury and then been told he doesn't fit in the Specials One's team he is looking to revive his career.

Funky Pigeon

06 Jan 2011 11:40:44
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Quote "06 Jan 2011 00:14:36
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I agreee with the person who thinks we should sign downing hes a great player we gotta get the english players back again look back at 92 in the prem"

WTF would we want Downing he's rubbish compared to what we have already
There is no chance we would buy him, yes agreed English players would be great but lets at least try and find someone half decent

Pardoe

06 Jan 2011 11:40:09
No fewer than six senior players are expected to leave United at the end of the season, with Edwin van der Sar, Gary Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Tomasz Kuszczak, Michael Owen and Wes Brown all likely to move on, either through retirement or a lack of first-team opportunities.
With doubts also hovering over the Old Trafford futures of Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes, the United squad which starts the 2011-12 campaign could be the most youthful since Ferguson replaced Paul Ince, Mark Hughes and Andrei Kanchelskis with emerging stars such as Neville, Scholes, David Beckham and Nicky Butt in the summer of 1995.
While Giggs, who will mark the 20th anniversary of his United debut in March, and Scholes are expected to be offered one-year contracts to keep them at the club next season, Ferguson now believes his emerging players, supported by the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Wayne Rooney and Darren Fletcher, are ready to make the breakthrough.
The United manager has admitted that his loyalty to those players who have served him for lengthy periods tests his ruthlessness, but that admission came with the concession that time is a commodity he cannot afford to waste - a reality which leaves Neville, Van der Sar, Owen, Brown and the injury-ravaged Hargreaves exposed.
Ferguson said: "When they [players] grow old, their performance level drops, but we have to maintain a level of success at the top end of the game, at all the time.
"We can't afford bad years or breaking-in years. We have had periods like that, but we don't want it and we need to be successful all the time.
"Sometimes, when a player grows old, you have to recognise it and they have to move on."
With 21-year-old midfielder Tom Cleverley due to return from his loan at Wigan in the summer and Danny Welbeck, 20, set to be elevated to first-team contention following his impressive campaign on loan at Sunderland, new signings are likely to limited to players no older than their mid-20s. Everton's Jack Rodwell and Sunderland's England midfielder Jordan Henderson are thought to be the long term targets.
The emergence this season, however, of Anderson and Rafael has led Ferguson to pinpoint the pair as replacements for Scholes and Neville.
Having warned Anderson at the outset of the campaign that he faced a make-or-break season after failing to realise his potential since his £19 million arrival from Porto in May 2007, Ferguson has been sufficiently impressed by the 22-year-old to have sanctioned a new five-year contract for the midfielder last month.
And with Ferguson identifying Anderson as a replacement for Scholes four years ago, he believes he is now finally at the stage of being able to rise to that challenge.
"Long term, I hope he [Anderson] can prove to be Paul's successor, " Ferguson said. "It's a big ask to reach that level and the challenge will test his confidence, but someone will have to step up to the plate one day."
Neville, meanwhile, has made just four appearances in all competitions this season and his loss of pace was exposed at West Brom last Saturday, with the 35-year-old fortunate not to be sent off and concede a penalty following a badly-time challenge on Graham Dorrans.
Rafael, in contrast, has emerged as first-choice right-back with Ferguson admitting that the 20 year-old has made impressive progress in recent months.
"Injury opens doors and the succession of setbacks suffered by Gary Neville has provided Rafael with more opportunities than he perhaps expected at this stage of his career, " Ferguson said.
"He is one of several players who have moved their careers forward when they have been brought into the team." Chelsea's struggle to reduce the age of their squad this season has led to accusations that too many of their younger players lack experience, yet many of United's have already figured prominently at senior level.
Ferguson has already earmarked Jonny Evans and Chris Smalling as long-term replacements for Vidic and Rio Ferdinand, while he claimed last week that Bebe, the Portuguese winger, is now being moulded into a central striker to provide competition for Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov alongside Welbeck, Javier Hernandez and Federico Macheda.
The acquisition of Danish goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard, 26, is likely to be followed by the arrival of a more experienced replacement for Van der Sar, while teenagers Paul Pogba and Ravel Morrison can expect to be given opportunities to press their claims in the Carling Cup next season.
Putting the 'young' in Old Trafford
Goalkeepers
Out: Edwin van der Sar (40), Tomasz Kuszczak (28)
In: Anders Lindegaard (26)
Targets: Manuel Neuer (24), David de Gea (20)
Defenders
Out: Gary Neville (35), Wes Brown (31)
In: Rafael da Silva (20), Jonny Evans (23), Chris Smalling (21)
Midfielders
Out: Paul Scholes (36), Owen Hargreaves (29)
In: Anderson (22), Darron Gibson (23), Tom Cleverley (21)
Forwards
Out: Michael Owen (31)
In: Danny Welbeck (20), Javier Hern?°ndez (22), Bebe (20)

telegraph

06 Jan 2011 00:14:36
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I agreee with the person who thinks we should sign downing hes a great player we gotta get the english players back again look back at 92 in the prem roughly 96% of players in the prem were english now that figure has dropped to about 46% maybe even less and you wonder why england were poor at the world cup we gotta get more young english blood coming through rather than all theese forreginers here is a list of the best english players we should sign a few of them
GK
loach
foster
smithes
robinson
DF
p.jones
cahill
jagielka
bains(spelling)
dawson
MF
bentley
downing
huddelstone
cattlemore
rodwell
FWD
carroll
delefonso
bent
defoe
crouch
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