Manchester United Rumours Archive February 07 2012

07 Feb 2012 20:24:02
I am fairly positive that in the summer we will sign one of the following:

Ross Barkley
Mateo Kovacic

I think SAF wants both of these players, however i think that only one will come in, be allowed to bed in, take someones place. And then the other comes in. I think Kovacic will move first, £10 million doesn't sound too bad to me - would of liked to have seen it happen in January but i can't complain if it happens in the summer.

RedDevil19

RedDevil19

I would just like to play devils advocate shall we say.

How do you think we would compare with City next season if we signed Barkley and Kovacic whilst City signed Ronaldo?

Hypothetical of course.

Red Man

It raises an interesting question. Would you prefer a more long term scenario where we sign Kovacic and Barkley or would you prefer Ronaldo back? Personally Id take Ronaldo this summer and then bring in Barkley next summer. Not asking for much ;)

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - What about James...........ach forget it ;-)

What happened to those two crystal palace superstars you kept going on about ? You've just linked another pair who are nowhere near utd standard or better than any of our reserves

Oh sit down Ed007 ;)

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - I'll get my coat.......}

Im presuming you mean James Beattie, naturally Ed.

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Who else could I possibly mean TK buddy? :-) Answers on a postcard to Ed Towers, Sandbanks.}

I'd take Ronaldo obviously, wait a year to sign one of the other two. And anyway - Ronaldo wouldn't go to City, he is a red and has too much loyalty and respect for the club.

I think that we could see him back, i'm not going to rule it out thats for sure.

And to our unnamed friend who seems to always have a smart comment, i only ever talked about Clyne as being definatly good enough for us to go for. Zaha maybe, but i'd still like to see Clyne come here.

RedDevil19

James Earl Jones......final answer. Tell you what though Ed, while we're on the subject. Theres this lad at Wigan who seems to look handy. Im surprised you havent picked up on him before mate ;)

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - I'll Google him TK, I'll get back to you guys if he looks any good.}

Clyne I'd defiantly not good enough and they're not smart arsed comments just opinions, our rivals are buying top class players yet you keep talking about players who have done absolutely nothing in the game yet you think we should buy them, I want proven quality to add to the very good players in the squad and coming through the youth team.

'Red Man'

I think you should take a look at Kovacic, he reminds me of a young Ronaldo, at 17 he already has the physique to cope with the EPL. Would be a good buy and could be why SAF never fought to keep Ravel.

Sydney!

Its nonesense to suggest that Barkley, Clyne etc are not 'united standard', Was Cantona, united standard? Football for managers like Ferguson and Wenger is about fullfilling potential. Spotting something in a player that can be harnessed and built upon, not spending millions on a player, just because a player costs 50 million it will not imply success 100% of the time. Personally I'd rather united buy the younger players around the 10million mark and leave Ronaldo where he is, he wanted to go, we let him go. Ronaldo is like a nice cheesecake, once its gone its gone!!

Was cantina utd standard? Are you off your head? Anyone who watched him play before knew he was a utd player. Why keep going on about young players over and over when we've got better in the reserves?

The only problem with Kovacic is he is a little slow, but with the training facilities we have that won't be an issue you gettin him fit. I'd like it if we could snatch him, he looksl like he could be something special.

Sanshine

I think he meant was Cantona United standard at Barkley's age? In other words it's about finding potential in a youth player that you feel you can develop. I think Barkley has a lot of potential. SAF likes this player and will probably make his move in the summer.

Sydney!

Sydney! You have no source within United. Everyone you linked us with this window was wrong.

Now you bum over Pogba. 'Have a feeling he may start this week'

You're a complete joker.

Salford Red

'Salford Red'

You are dead right I have no source within United, I have never pretended to have one either. Who exactly did I say we would sign during this window? I "bum" over Pogba? Never heard that saying before and like you I am from Salford, perhaps it's a new thing they are saying in schools now?

Sydney!

My point exactly, cantona wasn't bought when was that age, he was bought when he was good enough to play for us.

I had a quick scout of Kovacic, he doesn't remind me of Ronaldo, he reminds me of maybe an Aguero type player, but with better passing. Either way, a very good young player.

Percy

Before united signed Cantona he was the bad boy of french football, he was united standard before signing for Leeds, but Fergie left it. You fools who want united to return to the days of smashing transfer records, remember United went throughout the 80s to win 3FA cups!

But I read a couple of weeks back that united have given up on their pursuit to sign kovacic, and now again we have started talking about Kovacic?

07 Feb 2012 14:13:54
Who cares where Shaqiri goes? Hazard is a similar player, faster, smarter, trickier, better passer. If we only get one player in the summer and he's that player, I'll be chuffed.

Percy

Hazard will not move to united.

Ozwald

We have absolutely zero chance of affording Hazard, so let's not get our hopes up. He's worth £30m or more, and it's safe to say Man Utd's new price-range lies between £15-20million, possibly 25million at a push. We wouldn't win an auction for Hazard, and an auction is what would happen. That's why Shaqiri is disappointing, he was affordable and if we'd replaced Park with him as our 4th winger (Nani, Valencia, Shaqiri and Young), we would have looked formiddable on the wings.

RED_SKY

RED_SKY

I doubt he will, but there's more chance of him moving to us than Shaqiri. I reckon there'll be 30 million made available if the right player is.

Percy

All this talk of £15-20m is our new price range is nonsense! We went for snijder in the summer (but obviously didnt get him) im sure his price was more than £15-20m!

Lets just wait till the summer to see SAF's master plan...

Hazard will sign for City or Chelsea in the summer I'm 1,000,000 % sure on that. Shaqiri will sign for Bayern in the summer!

United Till I Die 1987

Hazard will not sign for city because he said he doent want to sit on the bench! And he said he wants to sign for a top club, like man united or chelsea! So thats ur 1,000,000 out the window!

I can't see Hazard being sold for any less than £30m..
Plus we don't need any more wingers.

Ozwald

I was awaiting the first post slating my claims about 'our new price range'.

Mate, Sneijder means jack faeces to me - until we see a £30-35million player SIGN FOR UNITED, I couldnt care less about these supposed bids or candid interest being given.

The burden of proof is on you - I am adamant we will never sign a player above £20-25million VERY MAXIMUM.

Until we do, I am winning.

RED_SKY

Hazard is as much a winger as David Silva is. In fact they're very similar, only Silva probably has better vision and passing where as Hazard had better dribbling and speed. I can't see him going to City, he'll either go to Chelsea (probable) or us.

Percy

I don't agree with all this 'new price range' crap people are spouting out on. SAF has said numerous times that the money is there, he also said that there are problems and areas to improve in the side. And he wants QUALITY.

Therefore i'm sure if a player that we wanted came available, then we would pay for them. However the only player we would go over say, £35 million for would be Ronaldo.

Also, we spent over £50 million in the summer, so there is money there. If we needed just one player to complete the side then that money would be supplied - it doesnt have to be split up and spraed around on numerous players.

RedDevil19

Red sky
'until we see a £30-35million player SIGN FOR UNITED, I couldnt care less about these supposed bids or candid interest being given'

does Berba not prove the Glazers will release the funds for a 30mil player?

our accounts show we have around 60mil available, add player sales (jan included) and we could have 70-80mil so it is not implausable for us to compete for Hazard

in england its between us, city, arsenal and chelsea. arsenal may simply get costed out, chelsea are trying to cut their wage bill (long term) by signing lower wage players to replace their current older higher earners as are we, so city seem to have the advantage there, whether they have the space for him is another matter tho,
so i think we have as much chance of getting him as any, having said that i think we will sign Gaitan as he would be a cheaper option (wage wise) leaving more funds for other positions

dags

If u dont care were shaqiri goes,several other uniteds care becos of our financial constraints,yes they are similar in most areas,but shaqiri is stronger and cheaper,get that to your head mate

Constraints? You're making us sound like Arsenal now. If the right player is available, we'll pay the money.

Percy

07 Feb 2012 12:05:11
The German newspaper "Bild" reporting Bayern Munich close to signing Xherdan Shaqiri from Basel for 9m Euros. Seems low fee to me.

Gino

One of Bayern's officials has released a statement saying there has been no fee agreed, nore personal terms yet, although they are interested. Plus Basel want 12-15m for him!

Yeah it's true he will be a Bayern player in the summer, 9 million euro's is a very good deal for Bayern.

United Till I Die 1987