Manchester United Rumours Archive July 07 2011

07 Jul 2011 23:02:45
SAF is still at the golf as im there too. Had a picture with 20legend as well which can be posted as evidence, just said hello and had pictures but no mention of transfers as not the place, but dont expect much going on as hes staying with ole to watch til the end.

Once again it's david gill who takes care of the transfers the boss would of give him the list a while ago and as i said on the last post jones and young was done when fergie was on holiday in france also it not that hard to think that if the boss was needed to complete a transfer it don't take that long from scotland to manchester

07 Jul 2011 22:30:18
Nasri wants utd move {source ssn}

Is this just a really really really REALLY late post from what's been going on all day or is this breaking news that has been said in the last hour...if not are you on australian time mate

True talk he is that extra creativtly we need in the middle

07 Jul 2011 22:21:08
Malaga Bid 35m Offer For Inter's Wesley Sneijder - Ernesto Bronzetti
The free-spending Spanish club are believed to have scheduled talks with the Netherlands international's agent for Thursday

They have money, but it takes more than money to even get a player to consider a club with no history and prospects

07 Jul 2011 22:08:47
On a side note from all this, can anybody explain to me why Michael Carrick is still a Manchester United player? He has been a nothing player for us in 95% of the games he has played. He can't attack and he can't defend so what is he? He must be Fergies love child or something

He breaks-up play by closing down and intercepting passes. He is a very good squad player. A player that will be used until we are finished blooding Tunnicliffe & Pogba.

Sydney!

You sir are very wrong.... Granted he is not an outstanding player BUT he does a job for us.... HERBIE

I don't understand why people give carrick the stick.. agreed he is not the best passer of the ball. but he does a good job of holding the ball.. except against barcelona..and he lets the other MF player and wingers play more attacking..
with gibson about to leave..i also see carrick used as a squad player.. he has played as a defensive player..
so with o'shea gone..i expect him to be our utility/substitute player if we sign 2 good midfielders.

I have to say you could not be more wrong on this carrick is a very decent player you look back on our league success over past 4 years. carrick arrived and really shored up a centre midfield that was struggling

I think you will find that John O'Shea was Fergies lovechild & thank God he is gone...

I STRONGLY agree with you son, just like my dad does and my brother, all life long man united fans. Carrick constantly gives the ball away (watch and you will see) his off the ball tracking is not only lazy but slow and can any one remember the man city fa cup game? enough said. {Ed012's Note - I think you drastically under estimate his contribution the team- his off the ball tracking is unsurpassed in the Premier League, name one player who makes more interceptions than him?}

Carrick does alot of unheralded work but his passing has regressed enormously. His long range passes when he first joined were excellent. Seems to have suffered a lack of confidence in the last few seasons. Would view him as a squad player now. Hopefully Jones is being groomed as the next defensive midfielder

Just look at his record since joining united he's been here 5 years and won 4 league medals and been to 3 CL finals to me he is a very under rated player he may make the odd mistake but you notice them more because they don't happen as often as your making out...i read somewhere that all the players say he would be greatly missed if he left and if you think about it he's been here 5 years if he was has bad as you said the boss would of kicked him out along time ago as he knows more about the player and football than everyone put together on this site and then some you want to try supporting players instead of slating them bet you was 1 of them who said fletch was not good enough a few years ago

07 Jul 2011 20:38:12
Wesley Sneidjer is a no-go as his wife is reluctant to leave Italy. She would prefer London to MCR if he did move. Modric wants to stay in London too and would move to Chelsea if Levy permits a move. Nasri is the best option at the moment. Schweinsteiger has been approached but his wages are immense.

Schweinsteiger is very happy at Bayern and Bayern do not want to sell. Bayern don't need to sell, they are debt-free and they are the most financially sound club in Europe. The Schweinsteiger rumours are nothing more than lies and people like you are going along with them.

Sydney!

Hardly going along with it Sydney, by saying he's been approached.

It's been on german sports tv that schweinsteiger is not for sale no approach as been made and like sydney said he don't want to leave and bayern don't want to sell or need to sell and considering the papers in which these rumours are from ie the sun and daily star there's will be no truth in it...normally the guardian independent and the times are more reliable for reports of transfers

07 Jul 2011 20:09:54
Man Utd planning 2 more signings which will be Wesley Sneijder and Alexis Sanchez once utd move players on such as Berbatov, Gibson, Obertan are moved on first one will be Sneijder and after Copa America Sanchez will sign due to Barcelona don't have the funds to buy him unless they sell Villa so he will join us been told they are very confident getting their man Ferguson plans to play him as a second striker at moment David Gill very busy trying move players on so they can bring in five new players which we have three already as said before shirt no's will be
De Gea 1 Young 18 Jones 28 Sneijder 4 Sanchez 7
Owen taking no 9 shirt from Berbatov
My source is never wrong the manager wants to put in end to Barcelona as the best before he calls it a day.

Please please pleaseeeee get over sanchez will you im begging i said months ago that he would not come and up to now im right the man wants to go barca and he's not proven at the highest level for me to pay the 35+ million that they want for him we don't want another veron on are hands now do we...if sanchez comes i will run down market street naked and nobody want to see that including me lol

I had to reply to this.
i must admit i thought he was red bound.
however as above Sanchez is not coming here.
Neither is Sneijder.
SAf wants Nasri and its without doubt he will be joining us.

07 Jul 2011 19:13:34
if we do get sjneider AND nasri, i cant see what formation we would play with hernandez and rooney deserving a start, can we really play 2 CAM's and 2 ST's ed? we also now have the problem of a RB as i dont think rafael is capable of becoming a world class RB in the next season. in the future he will be top class but not at the moment so ed anything to add?

Yeah but as good as brown and o'shea was i would not class them as world class not being negative but can you put your hand on your heart and say there are not a lot better right backs then them 2 i think rafael is better personally...both great servants to united and i for 1 will miss both the songs we used to sing for them wes brown's was my favourite {Ed007's Note - John O'Sheas versatility alone is worth millions, because he doesn't have some fancy sounding name he must be a bad player? What squad in the world is filled with world class players, O'Shea has been a part of Man Utds most successful period in their history and gave 100% when called upon to fill numerous positions.}

4-4-2 you dooshbag.we have the players if we get nasri.of course we can play 2 CAM lots of great teams do it.

07 Jul 2011 19:05:40
Not a rumour as such but I'm pretty sure Utd's business will be quite over the next few days as I just received a text from my mate who us at the Scottish open saying he just say Fergie there on a golf cart.
Daz

Fergie is there, it showed him on sky sports news watching it but what does that have to do with our signings? do you think that fergie sits in all day while we wait to sign player?

1redarmy

07 Jul 2011 19:04:02
As i posted last night this will not happen.

raphael honigstein the german version of guilliam balague was on twitter posting all the latest german gossip most of it involving bayern.

quote 1

"plenty of people keep asking about Schweinsteiger to ManUtd. It's a non-starter. zero chance."

when pressed earlier today:

"take it from me: write him off."

rincewind

sorry for the repost Ed but thought might be better to post this again where might be more read before more people start jumping on a scweinsteiger bandwagon.

personally i think he would be a fantastic signing but there just is no legs in it going on what honigstein says. he seems very very convinced he wont be leaving bayern and even if he did not to United.

rincewind.

07 Jul 2011 18:14:53
hey, as of the beginning of the week nasri was basically a done deal and was expected to have signed by tomorrow, however the situation in Italy concerning sniejder has changed so they have put the nasri deal on ice whilst they assess the situation before going either way, MUFC is nasri's first choice however sniejder is MUFC's. however all that said i personally feel nasri is the most likely and expect him to sign by the end of next week at latest. RD19

Samir Nasri has yet to reach his best being only 24 years old. £110,000 a week would be enough for him I think.

Wesley Sneijder is already a his best. When he hits 30 years old he'll start slowing down through age. £150,000 a week wage demand aswell.

I'd rather Nasri. We would benefit from him in the future if we got him rather than Sneijder in my opinion.

07 Jul 2011 17:20:06
SAF interested about Bastian Schweinsteiger whose salary is £30million. Berbatov might also be part of the deal. Assuming we don't get the midfielder we want.

So you think saf would pay 30m for a player who wasnt his first choice? Have a think before you make things up

As i posted last night this will not happen.

raphael honigstein the german version of guilliam balague was on twitter posting all the latest german gossip most of it involving bayern.

quote 1

"plenty of people keep asking about Schweinsteiger to ManUtd. It's a non-starter. zero chance."

when pressed earlier today:

"take it from me: write him off."

rincewind

07 Jul 2011 16:55:33
City are about to announce naming rights for their stadium. And the FFP get arounds begin

Thought that the council owned the city of manchester??

They have an agreement with the Council that naming rights are allowed. Etihad rumoured to be the naming rights owner. Will be very interesting how much they will pay. Mansoor funding Etihad to own naming? Instead of direct funding support from the owner, channeling funds through a sponsor?...no, perrish the thought?

It has to represent 'Fair Value', so anymore than £10m a year would not represent fair value. I heard it was a £100m deal over 15 years. This is the first test for FIFA, lets see if they stick to their guns.

I am sure a backhander would sort it anyhow.

Sydney!

Sydney

The test will be, who will judge what is "fair value". Is there a scientific method of assessing this, and if not, if Eitihad were willing to pay £100m per year I would guess it would be hard for UEFA to legally contest this IMO

UEFA would judge what is a fair price by comparing it to similar deals and applying coefficients they will have carefully calculated. City need to be very, very careful indeed because, if they get it wrong, UEFA will make an example of them. Bear in mind that, if UEFA take action, City can go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to appeal but, if they take legal action against UEFA, they can be suspended from all FIFA-affiliated competitions (and indeed similar sanctions could be applied against the FA in general).

I suspect the FFP rules are going to be much more tightly policed and acted upon that many people think.

DarkLard08 {Ed002's Note - Plan B: The Glazers should take £150M out of the MU stash and buy the naming rights to the Nou Camp, forcing UEFA to take action, throwing Barcelona out of the Champions League, allowing MU to win it.}

Ed002 - does that mean if we get a former player to pay £6 million for Gibson, we're breaking the FFP rules too?

DarkLard08

07 Jul 2011 15:02:03
John O'Shea has also just signed for Sunderland, another one I'm sure were all sad to see go. There's no reason to sell O'Shea, personally I think were freeing up wages for our next signing (s). One of the best utility men out there, can play anywhere on the field even in goal. Will never forget the Figo nutmeg. Farewell Sheasy all the best at Sunderland.

United Till I Die 1987

Great player, very underrated, I wonder if Fergie will take up an option on Dodo, the Brazilian left back for cover and use the Da Silva boys on the right.

I'm sorry to see O'Shea go too. He might not have been the greatest player to pull on a United jersey but he never complained, always did his best and plugged gap after gap in the team. I'm glad he'll get the amount of football he deserves and here's hoping he has a great time at Sunderland.

I'm less sorry to see Wes go from a footballing point of view but, again, you can't fault his loyalty and the service he gave us. In his early 20s he was a cracking right back. Unfortunately, I think his injury problems have dragged him down over the years and it is the right time for him to move on. Good luck to them both.

DarkLard08

Big mistake selling John O'Shea most under rated we ever had, cannot see why we dont get rid of Carrick, Berb, Oberton(sorry for the spelling) all not good enough

Don't understand O'Shea being moved on. Wages are not huge, he can play across the whole back 4 and centre midfield, good professional, reliable, scored the winner against liverpool and I think he's played more games for united over the last 6/7 years than most other players. Leaves us with only 3 recognised full backs i.e. the twins and Evra.

hope to god he's not thinking about wasting Valencia in a full backs spot

Only way it makes sense is if he has plans to bring someone in?

Carrick far better where he plays that O'Shea where he plays. But I feel sad to see Wes and John go.

Very sad to see a player like John O Shea leave. Think about it, how many time did he ever make a mistake or was at fault for a goal? Can we say the same about the awful Carrick?

07 Jul 2011 14:53:36
I think two or three more players in defensive cover midfield replacement for scholes and a new striker as berbatov is too leave

07 Jul 2011 14:12:56
Don't shoot the messenger if I'm wrong but BBC news have just said that united have officially bid around 22 million for Nasri
If this is true and we get him I'll be extremely happy with our summer business nasri is the missing link we need

Mavis

Why get something wrong when everybody can go to the BBC site to read it? It quite clearly states in McNultys article a near 20 million bid.

Tbf i posted it when i saw it on the sports news, the presenter said 22 million
Either way whether its 19.5 or 22 million it would still be a quality signing

Mavis

07 Jul 2011 13:54:24
Is it me or is the fact that Mata has had a 25m euro bid accepted for him by Arsenal and our bid of £20m got rejected for Nasri seem linked?

Arsenal are obviously not stupid enough to let Nasri go without a replacement and want the Nasri money to cover the Mata purchase?

Sanshine

07 Jul 2011 13:24:07
Arsenal have rejected Manchester United's recent bid for want-away midfielder Samir Nasri.

According to reports in the Guardian, the reigning Barclays Premier League champions have been told that the Gunners will not let Nasri go for less than £25 million.

07 Jul 2011 13:11:48
Its being reported O'Shea and Brown have passed medicals at Sunderland

Also to keep many happy Adam passed his at Scousers

Pardoe

07 Jul 2011 12:48:01
John o'shea can't swim an wears white boots let him go
Superdecs

Glad to know you really know your stuff when it comes to football... im sure a certain Mr Messi used to wear white boots.

sad to see john go.

1redarmy

Great servant to the club and model professional. Very sad to see him go but wish him every success and think both him and Brown will do very well at Sunderland

Sanshine

07 Jul 2011 12:02:25
Has anyone been watching the Copa America. I havent but wanted to know if Sanchez is really worth all the hype. Has he played well enough for Chile to warrant the £40m fee etc?
sambo {Ed004's Note - From what I heard, he had a bad first game and now no one wants him on this site lol, but he will have a good game soon and everyone will want him, anyways it is not always the best time to judge a player at international level, neither Messi or Ronaldo excel at that level}

I saw him play in the first game.he was terrible.nani is twice the player sanchez is although i also dont like nani much due to his antics and selfish nature....but he is still better than sanchez...hope he goes to barcelona for 40 million and then we can get nasri for sure.....

PRATEEK {Ed004's Note - It was only one game btw}

Ronaldo took portugal to the world cup semi finals in 2006 and was also part of the team that got to the final of euro 2004 so how has he failed internationally {Ed004's Note - Is he as good a player for his national side as he is for Madrid?}

I agree with Ed these players are not half as good internationally as they are at club level

I still remember wat the Ed, said when the Sanchez saga started....Udinese president is the most notorious guy to deal with, he also said the saga will go on untill the last day of transfer., ..now it seems it will carry on untill last day.
And it could be, Sanchez stays with Udinese for one season or many more...

RedArmy7 {Ed007's Note - The Udinese president is very difficult to deal with and has a "habit" of leaking stories to maximise interest etc etc}

07 Jul 2011 11:45:42
Apparently, SAF is only focused on Sneijder and Nasri. I didn't think Sneijder would sign but I'm sure there is some possibility because that duo would amazing and you can't deny that.

Even though it would be amazing they will both cost 60m together which would take our spending to 110m which is too much. If nasri signs then sneijder will stay at inter and if sneijder signs then nasri will join chelsea

07 Jul 2011 11:27:01
Samir Nasri will Wenger he wan't to leave to join United and no one else...meaning its either £25M NOW, or free next summer

I know most people would like to sign him next season when he's free but i want to sign him now just in case he changes his mind about coming here [and that could happen if chelsea win the prem and we don't]. by ;)man

07 Jul 2011 11:08:37
Six players leaving old trafford, and possibly 5 or six arriving

OUTS-
Brown 6
Oshea 22
Gibson 28
kuszczak 29
Obertan 26
Berbatov 9
-------------
INS-
Jones
Young
De Gea
Nasri (definitely)
Sneijder (50/50)
Izaguirre (50/50)

Izagguire is NEVER going to sign now that evra is staying and i would say nasri is a 60/40 situation because it could fall through. by ;)man

07 Jul 2011 10:33:58
can I just help people out there to make some easy money, skybet liverpool to get relegated 1000/1 put a tenner on that.

Not a chance liverpool will be challenging for the league and im a man utd fan imo arsenal would be a bet to get relegated coz fab, nasri, wilshire, almunia, fabinanski, walcott, betndar, arshavin, rosicky, vela are set to leave the club and clichy has left and no one wants 2 go 2 the gunners also wenger lookin likly he will be sacked so get money on arsenal 2 get relegated
THE HEMMINTAOR

'Not a chance liverpool will be challenging for the league'
I can agree with that :)
Dingle

I don't believe they will I believe Liverpool will be chasing city's shadow's

07 Jul 2011 10:09:15
Ok I am now convinced from what I have heard that sneijder wants to join united, Inter want 35 mill, we obviously want to pay less. First contact was made in March, expect the deal to go through at some point during the window.

Aditioanlly I believe Sir Alex wants nasri to partner him in midfield, Arsenal want 25 mill, we offered 18, hopefully we finalise this deal ASAP and focus on sneijder. {Ed004's Note - Then a 3 man midfield would have to be played. I think a midfield of Nasri, Sneijder, Fletcher or Carrick or Jones would be amazing.}

Throw in anderson then, who your 3 up then ???? Young Chicha Rooney???

What about Nani and Valencia??? {Ed004's Note - Valencia, Rooney and Nani, We need a defensive midfielder, that is why I could not see Anderson doing that role, he is not disciplined enough to defend all game, Rooney is better the Chicharito tbh so I do not see why people would sacrifice Rooney and play him out wide when he is our best player}}

If we get Nasri, i dont think we will sign sneijder or someone attacking minded midfielder...we have to put someone in the midfield who can defense well, May be jones/Carrick/Fletcher.
It will be NASRI OR SNEIJDER.

End of

3 of the 4 teams that beat Barcelona last season used a 4-2-3-1 formation - so maybe this is what Ferguson's working on. With Chicharito up front, and Rooney playing a CAM role in order to more control the game. Young/Nani/Giggs/Valencia on the wings, where would Nasri *and* Sneijder fit into attack? Rooney sub? :p

For 4-2-3-1
wud love 2 c

Jones, Nasri, sneijder, Nani, Young/valencia

Yeah a midfield of jones/carrick, fletcher, nasri and snjieider. very little width and where does that leave nani, valencia and amazing new signing young that is the thing with u united, chelsea and city fans just want to hoard players, some will rot and be nobodies can not keep everyone happy {Ed004's Note - I think you should go back and read the post again, I think you misinterpreted it}

Can't people open your eyes?

If we sign both Nasri and Snjeder then like Ed4 said it would be amazing.

people are then questioning this as to where we could fit certain players?

We change our formation often during games and we play 60 games a season - there will be plenty of game time for Nani/Valencia/Chico/Young

Rooney won't have to play ever game neither would Snjeder. man Utd are a Squad not just a first 11 team. Chelsea died a right deaf when certain members of the first team are out - We don't

Park/fletch/carrick/valencia are all happy with being squad players Nani too push come to shove because they all know they'll get time and have to earn their place in the first 11 - add this to injuries then i don't see the problem.

MONK {Ed004's Note - Was just thinking, Sneijder would get a lot of assists, he would be the person to dictate the game, and Nasri would be a bit like Iniesta, the one to get forward into the box and I could see him scoring 20+ goals a season, he was on target for that until Wenger pushed him out wide. The other midfielder Carrick/Fletcher/Jones are all happy to be squad players and could do a brilliant job in the team}

With a 3 man mid field and a 3 man attack, assuming we play Rooney and Chico, where do we play Nani, Young and Valencia? {Ed004's Note - I would play a team of De Gea as the goal keeper, the four man defence Fabio, Rio, Vidic, Evra, the three man midfield of Nasri, Sneijder and Carrick/Fletcher/Jones, with the front three of Valencia (right), Rooney and Nani}

De gea
rafael - vidic - ferdinand - evra
jones/carrick/fletcher
sneijder - nasri
rooney/young - rooney/hernandez - Valencia/nani
wings might change places...

Speed i guess will be one of our biggest attacking weapons next season. hernandez, rooney, young, nani and valencia, plus our backs are very fast

07 Jul 2011 09:22:36
Nasri In £22 million

Brown, Oshea £8 million (Sunderland)
Gibson £5 million (Sunderland, Newcastle)
Kuzchaz £2 million (WBA)
Obertan £3 million (France)

07 Jul 2011 08:41:26
John O'Shea is having a medical at Sunderland..Brown passed his medical yesterday.
Both the signings will be done today.

Gibson is still not sure whether to join sunderland or newcastle.

RedArmy7

07 Jul 2011 06:19:08
man utd targetng mainly on sneijder and nasri.

Wait for nasri until january offer arsenal 7 million and carrick
freeing up the wage bill and getting a quality player on the cheap

07 Jul 2011 00:08:22
Modric is going no where. Well, that's one down and out.

Spurs' DL always says that "The player is going nowhere". This bumps the price up and they sell, to who and how much I think are the questions.

Modric will almost certainly leave Spurs this summer. All we're seeing at the moment is typical Levy / Redknapp posturing. As I said a week ago, Spurs will make a couple of good signings and then let Modric go for a big fee towards the end of the window "so he doesn't disrupt the dressing room".

DarkLard08