Manchester United Rumours Archive June 07 2012

07 Jun 2012 23:47:57
Tomorrows Sun reporting 25m fee agreed for Modric rising to 30 based on appearances and success.

RebelRed

I could have sworn I put this kind of offer as a suggestion on the Banter page a yesterday...they've been nicking my ideas!

Gav

07 Jun 2012 22:48:02
in the mirror

Manchester United have agreed a £3million deal to sign teenage Chilean striker Angelo Henriquez.

Boss Sir Alex Ferguson has sorted out a swoop for the 18-year-old Universidad de Chile sensation which will be completed this summer.

If United will have to secure a 'special talent' visa for Henriquez, or else farm him out to a club in Europe on loan until he wins a senior cap.

Maybe because of the injury to William Keane... I think if Keane had been fit Henriquez would have stayed in Chile for another season

fearny

Anyone seen the sun update just now. We have signed Modric for �25mill to rise to �30 mill. I think our midfield is sorted now. Have you seen the article Ed.......Man u 4 lyf {Ed004's Note - Nope not yet}

07 Jun 2012 22:10:19
A player linked with us at the start of the season was Ross Barkley. Anyone got any information as to what actually happened to him, he seemed to just disappear and if there is still any interest from Man Utd.

fearny

Nothing is happening with him, he is at everton and staying for atleast 1 more season! He wants to become a key player for them first then to move on

07 Jun 2012 21:12:11
Who would everyone like to see become our assistant manager if phelan does leave?

I wouldn't mind Ole there as he is a legend but i also wouldn't mind Carlos queiroz or however you spell it (on phone so no Google), to come back again, he is a man who knows football, even if he did recommend bebe....

1redarmy

Ole would do wonders as would queiroz. I actually hope that ole gets it and then when saf retires take over from him and hopefully gary neville would be our new number two. His understanding of the game looks quite wonderful and he is good tactically ( from what i've heard )
Mick

I think promoting from within is the best policy - personally I think Berbatov would be a great choice. Who knows maybe he'd even step into Fergies shoes when he goes.

Ole has stated he wants to stay where he is for "family reasons".

Pep Guardiola.He has previously said that he would love to work with SAF..........

Gary Neville - amazing knowledge of the game and tactical awareness. Not bad at commanding players from the sidelines either

Scholes maybe? People talk about Nev's tactical awareness etc, but Scholes often seems to be know where people are instinctively. To me, that suggests a deep tactical awareness, to the extent that he can predict how and when players will move.

If Scholes can translate that on-field awareness into useable managerial tactical insight, he could be outstanding, plus he always seems to command respect, quiet and reserved by preference, but with a bit of a hair-dryer of his own when needed.

On the other hand, he's not ready yet, he needs a few years as a coach and then managing the youth or reserves.

07 Jun 2012 20:20:30
A mate of a mate who recently did some work for french tv said Zinedine Zidane mentioned that SAF had personally spoken to Alessandro Del Pierro and offered him a 1 year pay as you play deal with a further possible 1 year extension should things work out. SAF wants ADP to help nurture the younger players through league cup and FA cup matches and some CL early round games.

As 'far out' as this suggestion first seems, it seriously would not surprise me.
Fergie has a long list of signing aging veterans, Owen and Blanc being two.
I guess there will be plently voicing their 'this is not what we need' tirades, but if we want youth to progress could we do worse than Del Piero? Mike Phelan for example, to bring them on, offer support and guidance to them.
Karlmarx {Ed007's Note -

Just read the first 3 lines back again... It's like Peter Kay just popped up to do a parody of a post! Clown.

DodgyBanter

Please no

A

Would prefer Clarence Seedorf!

"not in my lifetime"

:D

07 Jun 2012 17:40:43
if ed 002 is about , have you heard of of any interest in modric from madrid or chelsea
jred {Ed002's Note - Not at this time.}

We dont want modric, god, how many times!!!!! ..........or baines for that matter! bring in some young blood ie powell..... way forward!

First poster, half of us do want Modric. You know.. the people who actually watch him play not just glaze through youtube clips! We have plenty of young blood coming through our youth system although Nick Powell does look like a good project. However we got knocked out of the CL and EL and just missed out on the PL title because of injuries and illnesses of our 'first team' players therefore we need to add proven quality.

Ozwald

If we don't want modric why is there discussions between united and spurs between a transfer! Petrucci is better than Powell.

Got to say you're right about Petrucci. I can't say he's better than Powell, as I've not seen enough of Powell, but Petrucci I have seen a lot of and is one hell of a prospect.

J - Stand

Would Chelsea be Interested in Modric this summer ED02? {Ed002's Note - Modric? I don't see why.}

07 Jun 2012 17:50:10
Sir Alex fergason aims to add steal to the squad with bids for grant holt, joey barton and Kevin Nolan this summer as he aims to wrestle the f.a cup and champions league crown back from Chelsea, respectivelly. Great additions to an ageing and weak squad

The source :- the guardian

Roy.Y

Lol Roy yates again I bet nice one

Pardoe

Scouser?

LOL, a Scouser uses the word steel in a sentence and spells it as "Steal".

You couldn't make it up.

Sydney!

Thats got the smell of "small time" all over it.
I don't know, they win one titlein nearly 50 years, by the norrowest of margins, and this is what you get.

Small time club, small time fans, and money won't change that.

Bob

They sold out 7 times last year ,,, but ciddy are a massive club

Get off the drugs.

U must be Havin a laff - none of that lot are Utd standard

If any of the ed's are there, does the senders IP put him in Amsterdam... cause he has to be smoking something

Oxred {Ed004's Note - Nope....}

Great comment Syd, still laughing now

Langers

Is this what banter has come to?

TK-Red

Joey barton pratically lost united the title last season for getting sent off in the city game so i doubt fergie will want him ruining our club as well

LOL to the people who have replied to this post as if it was genuine and serious, shame on you!

GDS

07 Jun 2012 15:48:32
Man utd to make a move for thomas mueller . he could be a great addition who can play as an CAM , winger and even striker.
and if in worst possible case nani leaves he will be the man to fill the void

I would much prefer Toni Kroos

Toni kroos plays as an CAM ..................never saw him play as striker or winger and plus there is the availbility issue,bcoz mueller said he will consider his future after the euros

Source? Think Chelsea are going for him.

Would be a good signin for us, quality player

andyred

I not heard this rumour for anyone tbh. but surprised no1 has been linked as he been unhappy with his lack of appearances this season.
Great player, and would be a perfect addition to our squad, i dont expect it to happen but would be in dreamland if it did.
jenny

Do any of you actually watch football ... mueller is nothing like nani in playing style

He is not like nani but has been deployed as a winger for bayern . he plays good in a second striker role

07 Jun 2012 15:19:52
what about a bid for Fabregas? If Modric will eventually cost 30/35m Fabregas wont cost much more, is younger and slightly better. He wasn't part of the untouchables which were not for sale, and he was not part of the main line-up for barca, and when he was journalists such as Guilem balague said he did not fit in well. He, along with Kagawa and possibly alba would be a fantastic summer.

MelonRed

I have to say although very unlikely I for one would be more than happy with fabregas fantastic player and imo better than modric for same sort of price

Whitey

He would be the single best option for us, but I think it's highly unlikely he would leave Barca.
Even more unlikely that he'd come to United, given his respect for Wenger.

Pritpal

Haha you people are mad, he wont leave Barca! He pushed Iniesta out of the starting XI for a while and had a big impact when he joined. After all the trouble of the drawn out saga last summer you really think he'd move now? And to United of all teams.. LOL

Ozwald

Highly unlikely, but awesome if he did come. Keeps possesion as well as modric and creates chances far better. Also, unlike modric, he actually does a reasonable job of getting the ball back, although obviously not like a dedicated ball-winner.

Never happen n alba is joining barca too,keep on playing football manager pal

andyred

Don't arsenal have first refusal ?

Fabregas was out injured as much as he played wasn't he?

07 Jun 2012 15:17:02
Daily Mail claims Chelsea are going all in for fellaini for £20M is he worth that kind of money?

-Reddy

Tbh if henderson 'is' then he 100% is

the inflation is a joke now, norwich want 6m for Holt whereas 3/4 years ago hed of been 1or 2 mill max!

ms85

In this day and age, and with our need for a strong midfielder, yes, �20m seems about right.

I'm not totally convinced by him, though I'd rather have him than no-one.

Pritpal

Do not rate fellani at all the only thing he would bring to our game is height. which we need but he is not really the creative type.

We were quoted 25 million + for Witsel, so all thing being even, I'd say Fellaini at 20m is a bargain.He's not just a holding midfielder either, both him and Witsel are comfortable in attack, can play box to box, or as holding midfielders. Belgium is rich in midfielders, shame for them they have no good strikers and only average full backs.
Mik.

Haha brilliant they're more than welcome to him

Gpot7

To all those slating Fellaini, just watch, he'll join a top club and you'll really see how good he is...he'll only improve just like Valencia has done since moving to United from Wigan. He's big and strong, good on the ball and lethal in the air from set pieces. I truly believe that whoever signs him will have their very own Yaya.

You won't be saying that when he dominates our midfield again next season.

I'd have him in a flash, we have creativity with kagawa, Rooney, Nani, Young, Valenica.

We need someone like Fellaini. Anyway he bossed us in the title losing game, looked good enough then.

If we'd have had a player like Fellaini for the run in we would be cheering number 20.

He's calmed down on the booking side of things.

Think 20 is a bit step but they paid a lot for him. I'd offer them 30 million and Park and a choice of someone else on loan for Fellaini & Baines. Or if not Baines then for future option on Barkely.

07 Jun 2012 15:01:59
Looks like fellaini is on his way to chelski for 20 mil. would of liked to see him at united!

Chris!

07 Jun 2012 10:17:13
Just heard Pogba signed for Juve not sure on the specifics and Mike Phelan is moving to WBA in some capacity with Ole becoming number 2 - was seen at OT on Monday.... {Ed004's Note - Quick question. I heard Ole has been a brilliant manager for Molde but what style of play did they use and what is he like technically...}

Don't want to seem like i'm nay saying but....

I personally don't see Ole becoming our No2 just yet.

Molde are in the champs league next season so it would be better to allow him to play next season out then become our no2.

We would see what he is capable of more if he is left to pick the team and set up.

We cannot afford him this luxury due to the expectations placed on our team.

At Molde the expectation is new and low therefore he is free to try his hand un aided and will show his true capability.

Ok i get Molde aren't the best of teams but if he goes up against perceived "better/bigger" teams and gets favourable results it would indicate his ability to get the best out of his players and show he has the tactical knowledge to neutralise teams with players of greater ability.

in short Ole should stay and enjoy next season and just feel free to work his own mojo instead of being in fergies shadow with the extreme pressure to win. At least for now.

do not want to break him.. lol

Monk

I mentioned that Phelan wanted to go into management a week or so ago, would love Ole to be our number two. Him or Neville would do nicely.

Sydney!

I always said it was a shocking decision to let Nev walk away from the club....his passion and energy alone should have kept him there on merit - that he has his badges and has proven to be tactically astute in his overview of the game means United's loss is England's gain. Would be great to see him back.

IrishRed

Ole was seen in Alderley Edge on Monday with his reps - done his apprenticeship with the reserves then gone away and done some first team, think phelan will be clarkes number 2 at WBA and will be pushed out by fergie for the long term benefit of the club to bring Ole n and groom him, he was offered the villa job and declined, then used the excuse that he didnt want to uproot his family?? why even come for the interview....

To ed 004: ole's philosophie s to get the ball down and play. No target man, no long balls, just quick passing interchanging foktball, much like what arsenal used to play, or us at the begining of the season when cleverley was partnering ando. He got molde to play the most attractive football in the league hence why aston villa fans were so eager to get him.
Mick {Ed004's Note - That's brilliant news then if we have a chance of getting him as our number 2, we just need someone who is good with tactics...}

Fergie is grooming Ole? Fancy...

GDS

I doubt Phelan will want to be Steve Clarkes number 2. As he is the one whose going to get the job

Would love to see Ole back as Asst Mgr but I agree with Monk it would be good for all concerned to see him have a crack at the CL with Molde. He would gain invaluable experience to bring to us and would repay Molde for the faith they have shown in him. I like to think he will return and at the right time.
Mr Q

I agree with MOnk really. Think Ole or Neville could be great number 2s for us but perhaps a year or two more experience in there current roles would be more beneficial to us in the long term?
Invisible Stuey

Steve Clarke is going to be taking over at West Brom

When Ole had talks with Aston Villa, the investors of Molde went crazy, and the main investor wanted to back out. The saga is pretty calm right now (after Ole and him had talked together), and I guess the reason for that, was that Solskjaer accepted another season, and gave Molde time enough to find a replacement. So, Im guessing that Ole will try himself in the CL next season and gain experience, and then will be allowed to talk with other clubs.

Not saying this is the way it is.. cause the only thing we now here in Norway is based on the newspapers.

But from what I have seen from Molde, Mick gave a pretty good description :)

Steffen

So your saying Mike Phelan woke up one day as was faced with a decision: go to West Brom and be Clarks number 2 or stay at Man Utd and be SAF number 2! Don't you think thats a no brainer?

My opinion is though that I'd like Phelan to leave

LUKE CHADWICKS LOVE CHILD

Not saying anything @ luke chadwicks love child.... but who said it was up to phelan if he stayed at OT or left!

Thank god phelans gone now we can get a number2 who actually contributes somethin,not one who doesnt.

Nevermind Ole,
Get in Guardiola!
he said before that he wanted to study under Fergie

Agree with Monk.
After doing such a fantastic job with the reserves, he took the step up to Manage Molde and has probably surprised a few people. But having won Molde's first ever title and secured some CL football, in some capacity, i would like to see him tackle that challenge first before he thinks about stepping upto top flight straight away.
It won't do him any harm to learn his trade a little before returning to England.

Bob

Ed004 I have heard that he is good on the training ground and seemed to make the right changes during games when needed. Apparently the players said he let them know in no uncertain terms when they were not doing what he wanted. The players didnt have a bad word about him but then again it was in a program about them winning the league so would not expect any negative stuff. Cant comment on formation as didnt see enough to tell. Can tell you that he was highly regarded as coach when in charge of united reserves. Oh and he will always be a legend of course. Bookedredmole {Ed004's Note - Didn't he use to sit on the sub bench and point out tactics to Fergie? Thought I read that somewhere. When he was on the bench he analysed the game}

07 Jun 2012 20:30:52
Please forgive the cut and paste Ed004 in response he plays an attacking 4-3-3

Quote "Solskjaer also maintained notes of every game he played and every training session he took part in. That reflects his dedication to learn the game and also his attention to meticulous detail. He did not do this just because it was fun, he did it because he knew, this dedication and sacrifice will be turn out to be a major aid in the dream he had as a 10-year old kid, "To be a manager".

These notes were not just stats and formations from the games or diagrams on how to run around the cones, these were notes of players around him, his own insecurities and what Sir Alex Ferguson said at various tactical meetings. Direct from the horse's mouth."

Pardoe {Ed004's Note - Thanks...}

07 Jun 2012 08:51:02
United will make 22 Million Pound Bid for Modric and 15 million For Baines (Mirror).Anyone thinks we will get them.Donno about baines we need replacement for scholesy Modric is great we badly need him

Why would spurs accept 22million when they could of got 40 last year! You haven't got the funds - probably end up at city

They might not accept 22 but it will be closer to that than 40, the reason? Because they can't force the player to stay there AGAIN, especially no CL. So if they force him to stay he won't play very well next season forcing his price down.
Carl

So who was willing to pay �40m for Modric then?

Sydney!

Chelsea last year offered �30m got rejected then �40m got rejected .. Cannot see this signing coming off

Chelsea had a couple of bids rejected not sure what they offered though
..

What are you talking about Chelsea bid for 30m last year and that was the highest bid. I think 22m could be enough this year as he clearly wants to leave for CL.

One reason is he doesn't want to leave london and chelsea did offer 40million and it was declined. He is on a long contract and tottenham don't have to accept anything. I admit he will leave but not for 22million

Chelsea NEVER offered �40m for Modric so stop talking silly. Do you believe everything you read in the tabloids?

Sydney!

How do you know what the offered/didnt offer Sydney...the use of capital letters would suggest you have some element of certaintly. Care to share it with us?

I heard it on SSN that Tottenham turned down a reported bid of 40 Million for Luka Modric...quite a good source

SSN are a good source! Do me a favour! I'm still waiting for the amazing news coming out of old Trafford from last seasons deadline day!

Ed002 has made it very clear that there was no �40m bid from Chelsea. It was nothing more than Arry trying to bump up his price-tag as he knows Chelsea do not comment on speculation. I would say Ed002 is a better source than SSN when it comes to Chelsea matters.

Sydney!

Sydney what is your so called source for the 22million pound bid - Tabloid you egg, Contradicting yourself fella

Leave a name you gutless ponce. I never said there was a �22m bid.

Sydney!

Regardless of all this talk of chelsea bid, that was 12months ago. things have changed considerably since then for spurs. Modric has 12 months less on his contract, he was promised CL football would be achieved (which wasnt). future of harry is not certain.
The stumbling block at present for united is they value him at 20-25 million and spurs valuation is 30-35million.
Jenny

"I would say Ed002 is a better source than SSN when it comes to Chelsea matters." - really Sydney? No offence to the Ed in question but that is perhaps the most ludicrous post you have ever made Sydney, think about what you just said. A worldwide company with a myriad of contacts within the game in comparison to one Ed on a rumours site.
Invisible Stuey {Ed007's Note - You don't know who Ed002 is. I would advise you to think about what you said. How can you compare someone on a rumours site's knowledge with Jim White's? Who was correct last summer about Sneijder, or this summer about Hazard. If you like a gamble stick to Sly's worldwide betting syndicate, and keep betting on their 'sources' information. *rolls eyes* At least they got the Martinez, OGS etc being next AV manager right...oh wait a minute! Damn there goes another �10, and yet they gave me soooo good odds on it as well. BTW, Steve Clarke left LFC the same day as KD, why did Sly only report it yesterday?}

007 seems shaken and stirred. "How can you compare someone on a rumours site's knowledge with Jim White's?"....Erm arent you a rumours site? 007 you are talking to an adult not a teenager, dont insult my intelligence. I appreciate Sky may lead stories towards there betting and will of course at times also get stories wrong i.e the recent Pogba twitter one. However if you seriously expect me to think an Ed is mor ereliable and has better sources than Sky you are either taking me for an idiot, trying to big up this site or are utterly deluded. This is a rumour site, which Sky ISNT. I enjoy reading peoples opinions and some of the outlandish claims on here. Of course this Ed will get stories correct each summer, then again I could make 50 claims each season and of course some of them will happen. I dont gamble Ed007 but your argument and claims are utterly laughable to be blunt
Invisible STuey {Ed007's Note - To be blunt with you then, if you want to believe Sly that is up to you, some of us have more common sense. You have no idea who any of us Eds, our jobs or who we know. If you don't want to read the site then don't. But do not come on here and question any of the editor's credentials. As for your '50 claims a season' is that not a better ration than Sly's 50 claims a day? I am no taking you for an idiot, you seem to be making yourself look like a gullible fool all by yourself. None of us make a dime off of these sites, so we have no reason to lie or hit whore the sites, maybe you would prefer if we gave you odds on everything we say? One last thing, is the statement 'Sly Spurts sources understands...' not the beginning line of a rumour? Remember their sources knew that Hazard was on his way to Utd.....}

Cabaye is about the same age as Modric (6 months younger if you want to be pedantic), is involved in more goals and assists, would be cheaper and in my eyes is at least as good. Would love us to get Gotze or Erikksen, but not sure either wants to come to EPL. There both young, both insanely talented. Gotze would cost about 40 million Euros (32-33 quid) and Erikksen 25 -30 million Euros (21 -24 million quid). Cabaye is more likely then them though. Modric, like Hazard and Sneijder has this fashionable "Marquee" image, but I don''t want any of them at Old Trafford. I like players to do their work and be outstanding team players as well as individuals.
Mik

Mik in response to your post, particularly this bit

"I like players to do their work and be outstanding team players as well as individuals"

To me you have just described Modric to a T! Comes accross as quiet, hard working and dedicated to me and does a lot of the unsung work in Spurs' midfield with a good bit of flair on top. I certainly wouldnt group him with Sneider and Hazard as playing as an 'individual'

Gav

07 Jun 2012 00:17:27
Rooney just gave Danny Welbeck some pretty good praise on the BBC, saying that he enjoys playing with him and that playing along side him gives him more freedom up front. With this in mind I certainly don't think we'll be looking at another striker, given that we have the option of playing Kagawa just behind Rooney if needed. So clearly (and this is backed up by our links to Modric, M'Villa and Strootman) we are looking to strengthen our midfield. Kagawa will provide the flair of an attacking mid-fielder so we're going to need a strong box to box mid-fielder! M'Villa would be a great shout, haven't seen a lot of him but what I have seen is very consistent and very versatile...a good holding player really. Perhaps someone (eds) can shed some light on if we're interested in Schweinsteiger or if he's even available. I think he'd be a great addition and has bags of experience! I think Asamoah seems to be quite a strong possibility, from what i've been reading on here and around the web, but I don't know a thing about him! Is he CDM or what?

Yeah but fergie like having 4 strikers so he can change it about

So I expect a striker to be brought in mainly an experienced striker around 27-29

MUFC1990

Schweinsteiger is under contract until 2014 so he would not be cheap, by the time he would play for us he'd be 28. Man Utd simply don't spend large amounts on players above 26 as a policy. Shame though...

Scweinsteiger is, as I will say until I die, exactly the person who would sort Utd out, and that has been the case since Ronaldo left, and arguably before. However I don't think he would ever leave his precious Bayern

Jaxer

I think we are ok going forward - with Rooney-Chic-Welbeck and with the support of Nani- Valenica and Young we have firepower there, my problem is our midfield is far too weak - Scholes is a legend and shows the problem we had when a 37 year old comes back into the team and is still the best player on the park - we need an attacking player (Kawaga) and a Essien or Toite brute midfielder that does nothing but stop the other team.

In an ideal world a would love Modric or Sneidjer along with a proper RB, maybe include another striker in there to make up the 4 but we all know fergie and his value for money, its hard for United as we generate interest in a player and his value suddenly raises 10m.

To make us go forward - Modric,Baines and a striker could br brilliant - not sure how much fergie has to spend but i would be chuffed if they were in a united shirt come August

Giants14

I am not sure what he will do. It was rumoured that we had a �15m bid knocked back for Lewandowski, but if you look at what we have got we really do not need another striker. Rooney, Welbeck & Hernandez will be going for one spot a lot of the time with Kagawa just sitting behind them or Rooney sitting behind Welbeck or Hernandez. Don't forget Kagawa and Young are both 2nd strikers. I think if we were going to sign a striker it will be someone who isn't fussed about bench time. This would mean either a youngster for the reserves or an older Owen type signing, personally I hope we go for a young player. Powell looks a cert for the season after next so maybe we will just be happy with what we have got for this season and look again next season.

Sydney!

Defo don't need another striker with Kagawa, who can play as a mid or striker with Hernandez and Welbeck in there too.

I think 2 centre mids are a must, one holding (M'Vila) and one that keeps possession and has great passing (Modric). Then ideally a strong left footed winger and left back. Although this all looks a bit costly so either one of LB or LW would be an improvement, we could make do with either Young on the wing or Evra in defence. Just don't think we are strong enough with those 2 there now though. That's why I think Nani might be sold. Bring in a strong LW and use Young as support on left or right.

Dan

Dan

I think the idea was to open up the 4th striker spot for a youngster. I would have expected perhaps Will Keane before he got injured. We still also have Mechada and King

Remember you win nothing last year and the club has more debt than glasgow rangers so stop dreaming you are signing two players {Ed004's Note - Oh god there really are some bitter fans in this world...}

If we sign modric then we will definately need to sign m'villa or martinez because modric and carrick would be ok against the smaller sides but would struggle against the top sides.

sparkyred