Manchester United Rumours Archive May 07 2012

 

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07 May 2012 22:25:49
What are the chances of us bringing Jack Rodwell in?
He's not had the best season and been injured. Would a 10m offer be worth it? He's English and if he can find his earlier form could he be a good addition to the squad?

If Ferdinand has a back spasm he could slot in at CB.
If Cleverley, Anderson or Fletcher don't finish the season he could cover for them.

Plus we only have Carrick that's defensive minded.

A lot of United fans don't seem to rate him but I think Fergie does. I'd rather give Tunnicliffe pre-Season first and see if he can bring a bit of bite to our midfield first.

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He can't even get into the Everton side he injures himself getting off the physio table

Pardoe

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Hopefully no chance we'll sign him hes awful , I'd rather see Norwood play

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Agreed guys lets get real and look for quality players...not like rodwell for gods sake...we are united not a mid table outfit.... wythenshawe red

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07 May 2012 22:05:59
Michael Owen leaving united or newly promoted Reading. Reading won't find wages a problem following the new investment.

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07 May 2012 21:59:04
Gylfi sigursson has been spotted leaving Old Trafford. I've been told from a source within the club that a £12 million deal has been submitted

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He would be available for half that amount.

Sydney!

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Ye after the game yesterday

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I saw him leaving in a coach on Sunday from Old Trafford with Joe Allen.
Maybe he's coming aswell ha ha.

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If it's true that his club has valued him at £10m I would doubt we'd go in with a offer above that amount!

Gav

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07 May 2012 21:48:43
Any news on Mateo Kovacic or Emilio Izaguirre ed? Think these 2 players would improve our squad and leave enough money left for a top midfielder.
Djay {Ed007's Note - Izaguirre is fit, back in the CFC team and has played well. I do expect him to leave CFC this summer and as far as I know just now Utd is his likely destination. I have nothing on Kovacic, sorry.}

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Great a player from Scotland that will get the other top 5 teams in the premier league scared where are world class players that rooney was promised last year {Ed007's Note - Izaguirre is regarded as one of the best LBs in the UK if Europe at the moment. Why is it if Utd (and other EPL teams) try to sign someone from a lower league in Europe or South America (Fellaini for £15 million? Shaqri from Basel or 'The Wee Pea' at Utd as examples) they have discovered a gem, great scouting from the club and that BS. But if a player comes from Scotland he must be a dud? Izaguirre is a Honduran international, a nice fancy name to fit what you seem to be looking at. I don't normally have a dig at Utd supporters but answer me this, how many 'dud' players from the SPL played for Wigan against Utd the other week?}

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Well said Ed007. Izaguirre is a very good player and it would be a smart move to get him. Ryan. {Ed007's Note - Thanks Ryan.}

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So Izaguirre and Clyne could come in as FB's...I would be happy with that personally. It would mean only around £10m spent so hopefully plenty left in the bag for a midfielder and striker!

Gav

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I'm a Celtic fan personally I feel Izaguirre is one of the best full backs I've seen in the flesh. Good in the tackle, quick, good dribbler, skillful and has an outstanding crosser of the ball. Personally speaking, I feel he could put Evra out of his place if given the opportunity. Perhaps just favoritism though

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07 May 2012 21:46:50
People keep saying this has been a disastrous year, but it seems very similar to the 2005-6 season? ...Early champions league exit, second in the league. Got rid of a legend who was coming to the end roy keane, similar position with scholes now. Signed VDS (de gea) and then signed two relative unknowns, vidic and evra who turned out to be fantastic most of the time. Who is to say SAF doesnt have a couple relative unknowns, waiting to get them on the cheap.
Personally i would like to see Martinez, especially if pogba leaves. However I really like Jones playing in the holding midfield role so another CB, someone like HUmmels or Subotic ( i hear good things) to cover Jones.
I feel we need a LB (the next evra) and another CM, love to see eriksen come but not really heard much about him recently.

Funky Monk

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Have you watched Jones in midfield. Fish out of water, not sure he is intelligent enough to adapt there. I think with time and experience he will be a good defender but not if we ruin him by constantlty changing his position. Can't compare him to Martinez

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Phil Jones is NOT a midfielder. Wants to/should play centre half

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I THINK MARTINEZ IS A MUST.SIGN SIGN SIGN.

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Jones' first touch is not good enough to be a CM in the modern game IMO. He drives forward well but often miscontrols, loses the ball or mislplaces a pass or cross

I think we will see more from him next year when he's given more opportunities at CB (in cup games perhaps)

I agree we could really do with a DM...Martinez (1st choice), M'Villa (2nd) or Strootman (3rd)

Gav

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07 May 2012 21:09:10
Arsenal have signed M'Vila, such a shame he would have been a beast for United. Why weren't United in for him? £16 million is a steal for this guy!

United Till I Die 1987

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Arsenal will be very strong next year.

-------------mvila-song-------------
---------------wilshere--------------
walcott-----------rvp-----------podolski.

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Good signing for Arsenal. Talented & young player. :)

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Didn't see this post earlier.
I couldn't agree with you more United Till I Die 1987. We are crying out for a player of his talents, a true ball-playing defensive midfielder, with both youth and experience on his side. I really can't understand why SAF does not go after him. He is the definition of 'value in the market'.
To the person who replied, you could easily replace Song directly with M'Vila and play Ramsey/Arteta beside Wilshire
------------M'Vila----------
---Wilshire-------Ramsey----
Ox---------------------RVP
----------Podolski---------

What a team this would be!

C'mon SAF, you are not going to spend £35m on Martinez, spend £17m on M'Vila.

J Bones.

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J bones,
yeah in addition to the team i selected they have arteta,the ox and ramsey to come into the side.i would just refer song to ramsey.to me their transition looks to be much more comlete than ours.of course i am basing this on rvp signing a new deal.would be a major set back if he were to leave.

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So is this a done deal or just paper talk atm?

Gav

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I think RVP will sign, especially as some papers are saying the M'Vila deal is done. It would certainly be a much stronger and stiffer team with a Song/M'Vila partnership, and the more I think about the more I think you might be right. With Podolski, M'Vila and keeping RVP, they certainly have a very, very good team.

J Bones.

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£16 million was wrong I apologise, it's nearer the £23 million mark still a steal and a great signing, Arsenal have missed out on Vertonghen though he's Tottenham bound by all accounts. I hope United complete some signing before the Euro's as the prices will inflate greatly.

United Till I Die 1987

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07 May 2012 20:59:16
Dortmund ace Shinji Kagawa agrees 3 and a half year deal with Manchester united for a fee of around £7 million.

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Who are you ? where is this confirmed? and finally why would a player agree a contract that would expire in December
ARB

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Source?

Percy

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Even if this was true (and it's not by the way) why would he sign until Jan 2016! Surely a 3 or 4 year deal makes more sense.

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It would be 3 or 4 years, not 3 and a half. In fact if United signed him at all it would be for five years.

Sydney!

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07 May 2012 18:21:06
Obviously we can't compete with City in the transfer market as they would and will continue to blow clubs out of the water. However, I don't think that will prevent us from bringing in quality players. This season has, for me, underlined our need to address the problems in midfield thus making it a priority. Elsewhere, I think we still need to invest in the full back positions and an out and out striker like a Van Nistelrooy.

For me;
RB ; Van der Wiel would be my choice. Clyne, not for me personally we need a proven player.
LB ; Baines has been linked and would be a good acquisition. Coentrao is the one i'd love but seems unlikely as is Jordi Alba, Cissokho perhaps more realistic.

CM ; Need at least 2 imo. Luka Modric and Javi Martinez would be ideal. But I think we need a combination of a Keane and Scholes-esque. We lack steel in midfield especially in the big games, Fletch has been a big miss. They are out there and I think we should definetly invest largely in CM. Bender, Hernanes, Javi Garcia, Kagawa, Martinez, Modric, Moutinho, M'Vila and Strootman are all realistic targets some more likely than others.

Winger ; Hazard linked to both us and City but I think he's bound for the Etihad unfortunately. Gaitan continues to be linked and reports claim a deal's been done, I think he would bring an edge as he's naturally left-footed.

ST ; I'd take Huntelaar. Proven goalscorer and I think would score for fun in BPL, is exactly what we need. Llorente is the man to sign but I don't think we would pay the money Bilbao are looking for.

BERT!

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How much money do you think we have?

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Be nice wouldn't it but I get the feeling only 2 players will come in and they won't improve the first team just be another couple of hopefuls , I personally am sick of signing hopefuls now

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Bullshi.your opinion is pathetic and typical of most ridiculous posts
how much money do you want to spend?
we will sign two quality players at least just be patient
also we will have our captain back next season and Jones Smalling and Cleverley featuring in many more games than this season, You are talking as though we are 15 points behind City and not 8 goals
get a realistic grip
ARB

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Arb I think it's you who needs to get a grip on reality. You don't think City are going to spend big again this summer and come back next season stronger than ever? Pining your hopes on 3 young and largely unproven players shows just how little you know.

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How many players do you think City can field?
I don't care how much money they spend as long as we get what we need. And we don't need to spend big to do that.
Anyone expecting us to compete with City's spending is kidding themselves.
They've got a billion pound team, we haven't, and they're a handful of goals ahead.
ARB is right. If a little angry :)
If we can do that and be as crap as most people on here seem to think we are, imagine what we can do when we're upto strength.
Perspective people.

Bob

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ARB?
What planet are you from!?! I'm not expecting every player I listed to be signed, that's just plain ridiculous. My opinion is pathetic? Get a grip lad! We have papered over the cracks by bringing Scholes back, granted he has been magnificent we are lacking in CM, it's a fact. The bottom line is City are not going to stop spending any time soon and if we want to continue to fight for major honours them simply we have to be prepared to spend big. SAF is the greatest ever for me but to say there's no value in the market is nonsense just look at Newcastle this season, outstanding singings at very good value. Yes, only 8 goals but I don't take kindly coming second best! You need to take the tainted sunglasses off and realise that for us to move forward we have to open the cheque book and spend a few quid!

BERT.

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When will ppl posting stop playing FIFA and join the real world, City have spent a fortune and no doubt they will continue to do so, so what! Most hard United fans, support united through loyalty and love of the club. Not because United continually win things on FIFA console games. Not one person who makes a post on here knows as much as Fergies anus about football.
I await like many true United fans, the awakening of the next great united team.

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I honestly think we need at least 2 CM's a rb and possibly a winger a new striker is really not needed because if Rooney starys on top form he could lay as a lone striker. The players that will most probably make the team are(in my opinion) Martinez, kagawa and baines if we are lucky hazard

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07 May 2012 18:05:05
was talking to a friend of mine today from Manchester and he says that pogba is definately off at the end of the season.he says this is pretty much common knowledge in manchester.

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Gone for the money, good luck hgetting past Vidal and Marchisio and the other fella i've forgotten the name of.

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He is putting money ahead of the constant racist abuse he will have to take in Italy so bye bye
ARB

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"Common knowledge in Manchester?"

I don't think so. No one knows what he's doing yet. Even Fergie it seems.

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Juve have got money and players already, don't see Pogba getting in the team, especially when theres quality like Pirlo and Vidal in the side. Silly boy if he does but its not 'common knowledge' in Manchester, or is it just me who hasn't heard?

A.R

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Definitely not common knowledge in Manchester.
Just more rumour and speculation im afraid.

Bob

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Bob and no name,
looks like it was common knowledge my friends.

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"Bob and no name, looks like it was common knowledge my friends."

I would argue that their posts alone illustrate that it in fact was not common knowledge, by it's very definition!

Gav

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07 May 2012 17:24:58
Hi EDs
do u think that we have got Kagawa in the bag or is all the talk nonsense. thanks kaylem1300 {Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know about Kagawa enough times - nothing has changed. You have no bag.}

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Logically i'd say yes -

*He's stated before that it'd be a 'dream' to play for United.
*Stalling over a new contract, money isn't the issue so what is?
*United need a creative fast attacking midfielder more than anything.
*Bought for 350k euros, with a year left on his contract a cheap fee with Dortmund could easily be achieved.

Also i believe United enquired about him last summer? But were told a valuation of about £20m would have to be met which was quite a risk at the time, but now he's proved himself over another year and would be cheaper. So it does look more likely to happen than any other player we've been linked to.. Personally i think he'd be perfect!

Ozwald

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07 May 2012 16:58:02
ed do u actually think kagawa will join united or is it just another player being linked with us by newspapers


and ive seen a few people talking about nani being sold i would only sell him if we were signing james rodriguez to replace him no 1 else not even hazard {Ed002's Note - I have explained what I know about Kagawa enough times - nothing has changed.}

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07 May 2012 17:13:14
A couple of rumours are going around that we and City have agreed a fee with Lille for Hazard. What would this mean for the Kagawa deal? Personally i think if we sign Hazard we may let Nani go, then we would have a forward line of:

Valencia ___ Kagawa ___ Hazard
__________ Rooney

That would be pretty good i think. But do you think he could be in the squad as well as Nani? Or is it Hazard or Nani?

RedDevil19

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Yes, SAF has stated on numerous occasions that it's about having a strong squad not just a strong team.

Ozwald

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If we rid ourselves of a winger it should be Young and not Nani

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Hazard or Nani?

Bye bye Nani!

Jono

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07 May 2012 16:47:46
I read people coming here and throwing in all the big names in the mix like Martinez,Strootman and others.

What about Vertonghen ?

Pros:
1. 25 yr old entering into his prime
2. Tough-tackler yet good disciplinary record
3. Good Passer
4. Has been AJAX's captain last season and is a born leader.......something that we need in the midfield.
5. Reported to cost around 12-15 million
6. Would definitely choose us over Spurs/Arsenal

MUMBAI_BOY

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He's a centre back, not really a midfield

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Hes a defender not midfielder

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His best mate in football is former ajax cb and Belgium team mate vermalaen

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Yes but he can play CDM and provide us that much needed STEEL in the mid.

MUMBAI_BOY

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I think arsenal will get him

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Arsenal's player, in the bag. As said his best mate is Vermaelan and he's done the selling work.

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Arsenal bond unfortunately. Where there would be no need in trying to sell him on only having competition from a hapless Kosceilny(sp) and a big lump in Mertesacker.

Jono

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07 May 2012 16:11:53
Manchester United are closing in on Benfica's Nicolas Gaitan, according to sources in Portugal.

With the Premier League title set to end up at bitter rivals Manchester City, Sir Alex Ferguson is set to ring the changes this summer in order to re-establish United as the country's number one side.

And his pursuit of Gaitan is likely to end up with the attacker moving to Old Trafford. Portuguese newspaper Record, which has close links to Benfica, claims Gaitan's transfer to United is virtually a done deal.

The paper's front page splashes on the story, with United seemingly beating competition from City to land Gaitan.

Benfica wanted to keep the 24-year-old but he has spoken of his desire to play for United and it seems he may get his wish.

Gaitan, who can play out wide as well as centrally, has been watched for well over a year and Benfica are ready to sanction the move to Old Trafford.

United, in a bid to sweeten the deal for the Portuguese side, are set to let Fabio move there on loan for a season

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Hes a good player but im a bit upset about this becasue does this mean we're not going to sign hazard?

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Isn't this just the same story from a few weeks ago? I wouldn't say it is a done deal yet

Gav

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07 May 2012 16:30:09
just to add to my earlier post seems city have offered hazard 160k 30k more than us. Also arsenal currently finalising deal for m'vila fee over 16m wages below 100k. Mort

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I think hazard wages should he join city be more towards the 200,000 mark
we may have to settle for gaitan or rodriquez although there are more wingers on the continent belhanda honda dzagoev
eriksen tello

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Please guys mind it... city can have maximum 11 players on the field... and i am definite that there are more talented players than that number for each position.. so if they snatch 1 target another will always be there.. provided we atleast get that another from competition between other clubs.( madrid,barca,milans,chelsea,juventus) then things will always be in balance in case of quality. then tectics are important, whoever gets it wrong will loose.. like we all have witnessed in derby game.
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Just passing the news on chap. I for one am wondering where City'll play him, guessing their gonna drop Nasri to accomdate him. Mort.

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I'm just wondering how city will be able to get all of the players they are going to buy on the team coach!

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07 May 2012 15:41:16
just thought i'd pass on some gossip from twitter. Now this guy seems reliable and his source was the first to break marin to chelsea. Firstly on kagawa he says he expects kagawa to join united, seems wages sorted just need to finalise the fee with dortmund which he expects them to announce the deal after the german cup final. Secondly on hazard both united and city have agreed the fee with lille. United have offered 130k plus bonuses per week. City as to be expected have offered more. Mort.

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What's his username on Twitter?

G.A.G.U.S

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Sorry G.A.G.U.S was out earlier, couldn't reply off phone. its RichardDelile not saying its 100% gospel just seemed believeable. I could be wrong but have a look. Mort.

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07 May 2012 14:03:23
I read this site every day and I would just to give my views on season. We might not win title but if we don't we've still only lost it on goal difference which shows were not that far behind them. Remember we have played most of the season without vidic,Anderson,cleverly and fletcher. Now you ask city to play most of the season without kompany,Barry and Milner (only comparing like for like ) they'd struggle. Also it's young,jones and de gea first season and I do think they will improve next season. I think we need a LB an attacking midfielder a striker. I think carrick does the holding role as good as anyone. I don't know what pogba will do but I'm so sick of it. He may have potential but I think he could be trouble so won't lose much sleep if he goes. Players I'd also like to see move on are berba,park,Anderson (has got enough chances ) Owen,bebe,kiko..

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Share the same views, people need to open their eyes and stop with all this bloody 'doom and gloom'. I doubt they'd manage to keep it up next season, to do it year in year out you need all round team experience and spirit something they lack.

Ozwald

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Nd I'm sure SAF sees things the same way. Well said

IBleedBlue

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Agree with almost everything you've said there...so long as we get 2 or 3 improvements to our first XI I think we'll be back in the mix next season

Gav

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07 May 2012 13:22:14
I have been disappointed with Evra this year. Lot of teams get at him and we seem to have conceded a lot of goals down his side of the pitch. Not a captain or leader and on that topic we have missed Vidic , so much so that I feel his absence has cost us the league.

Finally, Fergie's tactics and team selection in recent weeks have been questionable :

1. He wants to focus on youth so why continue to play 3 30 year plus players. Against quicker teams they have been found to be off the mark

2. Should he have played Berbatov and Hernandez more. Perhaps the goal difference would have been a lot less

3. Putting Valencia on the bench against City - very strange.

It's obvious that now is the time to splash the cash and build a team that will once again win trophies. I thought last summer was important and nothing significant happened, it has to this year.i

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07 May 2012 13:09:28
Looks like city have hazard,reports today claim they have negotiated a deal which includes city playing lille at the opening ceremony of their new stadium,the gap will get ever wider if they continue to sign class A quality players and we sign the good players,this nonsense that we cant compete for tge best doesnt wash as other teams manage it,unless the money for fees+wages just isnt tgere.
Ste73

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Nobody can really compete with City in the transfer/wages market.
I agree that we should have considerably more financial clout that we seem to right now, and that can only be due to one thing....The Glazers.
City's owners have put £1billion into the club, The Glazers have taken around £500million out of United.
That's why we can't compete. Financially.
But spending big money doesn't always work, Madrid being the stand out example.
We just need the right money spent in the right areas, but that doesn't mean we "need" to spend £40, £50mill on one player. We just need the right players, regardless of cost. Something United have been ignorring for a few seasons now.
Fergie seems more concerned, at times, with leaving his successor a crop of good young players...seemingly at the expense of the current team. Which is a worry.

Bob

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Agree with u bob but how do we know who is the right player for us? its too difficult to judge so the best way is to sign players like kagawa cheap but very good quality

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Yeah, i don't disagree with a cautious approach to spending.
Some people will only be happy if we break the bank this summer, but if we look like we're buying in the right area's, i'll be happy.
Kagawa is a good option like you say, not least of all because he is young, has talent and is available at a reasonabley good price.
Personally, i think if we sign him, we'll change to playing with one up front, which i'm not overly keen on, but, we'll have to wait and see on that i suppose.

Wouldn't mind us blowing what we have on Martinez, if need be, if we need to spend big, that's the first position i'd strengthen.


Bob

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Bob you talk a lot of sense! That's quite refreshing, lol

Gav

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07 May 2012 08:32:37
Eds do you believe Nani to be sold this summer? I heard SAF has had enough of his inconsistency and he didn't even get a look yesterday. Kagawa could be a direct replacement?

Thanks
Ajp {Ed002's Note - If the right offer comes in - acceptable to teh club and player, then yes.}

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Kagawa not a winger i believe gaitan or rodriquez would replace nani

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I get the feeling Nani's days might be numbered. I hope not because i still believe that he is one of our few threatening players, if only he could do the simple things more often. Very frustrating player but still capable of undoing defences.
Not sure Kagawa would be a direct replacement, don't they play in different positions?
Nani LW usually, Kagawa is a second/support striker, defeinitely not a winger anyway.

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Kagawa is a attacking midfield, we will sign him, but not as a replacement for nani. I dont understand why you would want to replace a talent that has proved himself.

This Summer:
Nathaniel Clyne (Free)
Kagawa (7m)
Nick Powell (1.5m)
Possibly Hazard,(but dont see the glazers having the money)(33m)

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07 May 2012 13:44:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sRBqBL60og

Nick Powell's play here illustrates my point.

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I can see Nani being sold if the right offer comes in. He's struggling to get back into the team since his injury with Valencia/Young playing well at the minute. If the rumours about Gaitan are correct as well then there's even more of a reason for Nani to be sold.

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Nani to leave? Nahh he said he's happy at United and would like to end his career there, don't know if he'll go that far but said his reps are in the process of discussing a new deal to keep him until 2016?

Ozwald

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To the erson who posted that the Glazers would not spend 33m if we sold Nani then we will get 30m for him so I don't understand your logic or maths
ARB

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OK I admit Nani can be frustrating. Yet in the past 3 seasons his stats are as good, if not better than the any in our team. He is the surprise element that all teams need. Have you guys watched Hazard play whole games? He also goes missing, makes bad choices and overdoes the dribbling part. he, like Nani is also capable of tearing any defense apart. I like Hazard, but if we're going for a winger, than Young would be the one I'd sell. Also, Nani is the only one of our wingers that can use his left foot.I'm a big fan of Valencia, but he doesn't even roll easy 10 meter passes with his left foot. It really is a couple of midfielders we need above all else.
Mik

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Nani very injury prone and when he does play he's inconsistent. If money is a problem then he's an asset that we can cash in on & hopefully buy someone more reliable. If we've got the cash then no need to sell.

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07 May 2012 08:26:24
I have heard in the past that we set up deals to get South American players via clubs in Portugal. Such as the Anderson deal, they bought him to make up capps, get experience and so he'd have a European permit and would be easier for us to get a work permit. Is this true and do you know/have links to places proving this.

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I'm not sure we had anything to do with Andersons move from Gremio to Porto.
I could be wrong, but didn't we just step in when he was already a Porto player.
United have in the past done what you say, loaned out players while they acrue the necessary Intl. caps to get a permit, but i don't think we have other clubs buying players for us.
As far as i know anyway.

Bob

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I remember about hearing of Juan Manuel Iturbe who is said to have joined Porto from Quilmes in Argentina and United have first option at 8m on him in future. Same with another South American but struggling for a name.

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07 May 2012 02:15:22
I'd say Kagawa is signed. From what I've read here, the president of his current club said that he would leave the club and go to England (not specifiying any club). And he also said that he would play his last game at Borussia on the 12th and leave for United. Seems like enough evidence to me. That takes care of a bit. Javi Martinez seems like a good prospect really. It would be AMAZING to have Hazard as a devil, but he's not much of a necessesity. But then again, it would help a TON! I worry just a tiny bit more about Martinez. It's a lot of money considering we are already bringing in Kagawa, but I hope we sign them both.

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The quote from "Japanese television" came from a twitter account made earlier that day.

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Kagawa has denied making any statements about his future, and what he has said has been mis quoted.

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I hope hes coming he is a cheaper version of silva

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Kagawa wouldnt cost too much and he is a cam as pogba is leaving we need to sign a dm like martinez

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