Manchester United Rumours Archive January 09 2018

 

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09 Jan 2018 14:31:59
Not sure how reliable, but canal+ are reporting Lucas Moura has agreed to join utd with the clubs working on the fee.

BS. I have no idea. Time will tell.

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09 Jan 2018 15:33:27
Heard the same red glory reporting we have had a bid of 17.5 mil accepted. like u don't no if it's bs or not.

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09 Jan 2018 15:33:50
Surely he can’t agree to join if we haven’t agreed a fee?

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09 Jan 2018 16:24:46
That's fee doesn't quite sound right.

A question for the Ed's or anyone else who knows.

Lucas Moura was named in PSG's UCL squad, but hasn't played a single minute. If he was to move to another team in the UCL could he play for them in the UCL this season or not?

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09 Jan 2018 17:19:11
Shappy.

A substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season.

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09 Jan 2018 17:57:21
Cheers OxfordDevil, I thought that would probably be the case as it is with domestic cups. However I wasn't sure as UEFA and the FA's rules don't always align.

If he is able to play in all competitions potentially signing him makes more sense especially for the reported 17.5m.

For me Lucas Moura reminds me of Nani, very quick with a few tricks up his sleeve. On his day totally unplayable. However, he also seems to lack the consistency to make the jump from very good player to world class just like Nani.

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09 Jan 2018 21:45:07
Caolan, sometimes the fee is the last thing to be agreed upon.

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10 Jan 2018 00:08:59
I really hope this is a sick joke Moura nowhere near good enough we need starters not squad players.

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10 Jan 2018 03:57:32
Shappy,
That post reminded me of something I was thinking about recently. The most skilled player we’ve ever had is Nani. Hear me out. I’m not saying he’s the best, obviously, bc he had feet of magic and a head of rocks but in terms of technical skill, flair and simple unplayability when having one of his rare top performances, not even Ronaldo was on his level. There’s a reason his top ten goals is astounding while he was always the most frustrating player in the squad. I’d love to hear feedback, but I think it’s a fair statement. If the poor guy could hit a decent cross into the box or find the right pass at the right moment he could have been incredible. But it always just seemed like his feet were Champions League and his head was nonleague. Or worse.

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10 Jan 2018 08:45:11
Nani is not the most skilled player ever to play for Manchester United nor is he in the top 10 most skilled player to ever play for Manchester United.

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10 Jan 2018 08:55:39
All knowing Ken who is in United top 10 skilful players? If Nani doesn’t make the list he would come very close. Don’t let your favouritism misguide you, Nani was very skilful but did not end up being the player United had hoped. Then again he was no Depay.

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10 Jan 2018 09:02:47
I still liked Nani though. We don’t have anyone who is a bag of tricks.
If Jose wants Moura and sees something in him let’s get it done. We are woefully short on the right side and all our attacks come down the left or funnel through the middle. At least this way we might stretch our opponents little more and give teams something more to worry about. Lukaku has shown what he can do if we get good crosses into the box!

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10 Jan 2018 09:11:49
I'd take Moura over Bernardo Silva.

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mbd              

10 Jan 2018 09:40:18
I would place Nani in the top ten most skilful players to have played for United in my life time at least. I still fondly remember him making mugs of half the Arsenal team by juggling the ball. It’s even more impressive when you consider he was up against professionals at the top of their game not 48 year old Sunday league old hacks.
When he was on form he was unplayable, the speed in which he changed directions left players in knots.
Unfortunately the days he was on top form were few and far between. He had two seasons where he looked like he was going to kick on, then he got injured and before he could fully recover and get up to speed Sir Alex retired and Moyes took over. Moyes was never going to be a fan of Nani and he slumped into obscurity. A sad end for a player with so much talent.

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10 Jan 2018 10:18:45
Nani best ever? George Best, Bobby Charlton, Ryan Giggs, Ronnie, Big Duncan Edwards all better and it took five seconds to name just those five.

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10 Jan 2018 11:10:31
hendonred, the discussion was about "most skilled", not "best". They are two very different things, and Nani was more skilled than any of those 5, although I think most would agree they were all better players than him.

I'm not sure he was our most skillful player, but if not, he was certainly close. Absolute magic to watch on his best days, few and far between though they were.

While I'd like it to be someone a bit more consistent, we could do with having a player who can pull that kind of trickery.

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10 Jan 2018 11:24:16
I have to disagree. I don't think that Nani could lace George Best's boots.

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10 Jan 2018 12:28:55
Nani more skilful than best. Check that one quick Thorne. That's outrageous.

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10 Jan 2018 12:38:53
Ha ha . give your head a wobble . Nani and George Best were not even in the same orbit . Did you ever see Best play?

Daftest thing ever written on here.

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10 Jan 2018 12:50:49
I don't think Nani is more skillful than Best. Very few in the history of football could rival Best.

However I said Nani was definitely in the top ten most skillful players in my life time, and I stand by that.

There is a difference between skillful and being the best. The best perform week in week out and they achieve great things. For example Forlan was a more skillful players than van Nistelrooy, RVN however achieved far more. Phil Neville was more skillful than Gary Neville. It isn't about what they achieved but how much talent and skill they had.

For me in my life time Scholes, Ronaldo Giggs and possibly Pogba are the ones who have the same or greater natural talent than Nani. If I was old enough to remember Best during his playing days then he would be there obviously as well, as would Charlton and Edwards.

Its such a shame Nani never fulfilled his potential.

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10 Jan 2018 15:26:53
I've seen it reported that the fee is closer to 35mil, don't know if that's in Euros or pounds though. Would seem a little closer to his value in this market.

If we're getting a player from PSG, I'd much prefer Draxler mind.

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10 Jan 2018 16:58:58
You've all forgotten that Bebe had mad skills.

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10 Jan 2018 18:34:41
Define skill maze?
Is passing a skill? Is running a skill? Is positional awareness a skill? Is tavkeling a skill?

I think all the above are skills.

Do you lack the intelligence to understand that or are you just talking stepovers?

As for someone posting nani was more skilful than best that is just displaying complete ignorance.

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10 Jan 2018 18:50:26
12days,

Not much difference between euros and pounds anymore mate so wouldn’t matter.

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10 Jan 2018 19:01:31
There is a fellow that doea ball juggling outside the Trafford centre every Saturday . Great skills sign him up Shappy.
Consistency is a skill. Maybe nani is in the top 10 most inconsistent players at united ever.

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10 Jan 2018 21:48:00
This is in my most ridiculous top 10 threads ever!

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09 Jan 2018 13:50:27
Hi Ed sorry if it's been covered any truth that Lucas Moura is likely to come in this month.

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{Ed004's Note - I have no idea}

09 Jan 2018 15:55:47
Thanks for the reply ed.

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09 Jan 2018 12:00:19
Does anyone here know anything about the us being linked with Leon Bailey and Lorenzo Pellegrini.
Personally have no idea of their quality. But as we all know. it's the season for tabloids to throw names and see which will stick.

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{Ed002's Note - Pellegrini is of interest but Roma do not want to sell him. Another English side had a proposal rejected. Roma have a number of folks in London for a couple of days this week where Monchi will read the riot act and they will look to unload some of their surplus players to raise some money. Don't hold your breath. Leon Bailey was of interest to Chelsea when Mourinho was manager so it is possible. Again there is a not for sale flag.}

mbd              

09 Jan 2018 12:54:09
Ed, I know you don’t like putting timescales on things and January is a difficult month to buy players etc, but would you say it’s more likely we will wait till summer now, rather than sign anyone this month just for the sake of it? I can’t see many of our top targets being available and we don’t seem close to any deal. Your opinion would be appreciated or any new info you’ve recently heard. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - No, I am sure something will happen in January if they can make it.}

09 Jan 2018 13:13:03
Thank you for the quick response Ed.

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09 Jan 2018 15:08:39
Cheers Ed, much appreciated.

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mbd              

10 Jan 2018 04:00:18
I’m still convinced Ed002 is the head of the CIA, NSA, or MI6. Only explanation. Even Jorge mendes and pini zahavi check this site for insider info. :)

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{Ed001's Note - I met Jorge Mendes once out here, the only thing he said to me was 'who is Ed002?'}