Manchester United Rumours Archive May 09 2012

09 May 2012 20:55:35
All the talk has been about Hazard this term for a big money signing in the wide areas.

Just a thought but wouldn't mind fergie testing the resolve of Newcastle United for winger Hatem Ben Arfa. He has really impressed me this term especially after that nasty leg break last season.

We are missing a player like him with that unpredictability who can do something special out of nothing and would also be a cheaper option aswell if the glazers are not keen to splash the cash

Nani???

I have thought since he was at Lyon that there are very few wide players in the world better runnin with the ball at there feet than Ben Arfa.
He did however always appear to be greedy and selfish and from what I read seemed to have a lot of the French arrogance and an attitude problem.
He does seem to be improving team play wise and there dont appear to be any apparent issues with his attitude in the Newcastle dressing room.
Personally I think this is a great shout and a different name that hasnt really come up un-named poster.
Invisible Stuey

I agree with the Nani comment.
We don't really need another unpredictable wide man.

He is still a right footed player playing on the left aswell though.would nt offer us what we need.

Thanks... I can only thank people inside the club for leaking information on fergies/man utds thoughts and interests

I'm sorry but Hatem Ben Arfa is fully left footed..

Do not think he will replace either Nani or Valencia..an average player in an average team...
Laz

I dont think he will replace either player or be bought or should be bought either, but an average player in an average team, utter throwaway comment Laz, he is definately a talent and always has beem
Invisible STuey

09 May 2012 20:21:55
sorry to digress but has anyone been watching falcao especially tonight? world class.... {Ed004's Note - He is playing extremely well}

Totally agree, great player! Would cost a fair bit though

09 May 2012 20:20:48
Apparently we have sent scouts to watch muniain of athletico bilbao tonight.

From what ive seen tonight he doesn't seem as good as what ive heard.

Hope he will be watching Falcao, then!!
He's having a great game.
Mike B.

You are having a laugh? Muniain (spelling) has played superb tonight. Let's not forget they're up against a talented Madrid side and he's only 19. The lad has so much confidence on the ball. He's top draw already and will get better. Barca bound me thinks

Langers

Couple of no names..

1. It is Athletic, not Atheltico, lets not start this again.

2. So we are judging a player on 1 game? Why not judge him on the 2 games he played against us when he ripped us apart?

GDS

I would make munain r number 1 target hes perfect great vision bags of skill can pick that killer pass and is only 19 but is he a barca player of the future! Donny red

Munain was non stop tonight and badly let down by his teamates ,they have been great to watch in the europa but seemed to freeze tonight 2 well taken goals but they allowed falcao to much space.second half munain virtually took them on by himself and ran himself into the ground great engine on him.
johndenton {Ed004's Note - Something Rooney has done for us in the past. He has amazing dedication that Muniain fella}

Have been impressed with Muniain myself, and thought he looked good tonight.
Lots to like about his game.

Can he play through the middle or is he strictly a winger?

Bob

Munian is the player i want to see in a red shirt next season! He is way better than Gaitan imo and the fact SAF has spoke about both Gaitan and Hazard, just makes me think and hope we go for Munian.
SAF mind games..

Mabzinho

Why do so many want wingers and center backs, when we could do with a couple of central midfielders? It must be all the step over of the wingers and the fact that center backs are big. we've 5 center backs -Vidic -Ferdinand - Smalling -Evens - Jones. Valencia, Nani and Young are excellent wingers, well young is just OK, plus Wellbeck and Rooney can play wide too.. Yet apart from Carrick our midfielders are past it, Of plain not up to scratch - Anderson, Park and even Cleverley is only average and always injured. Tunnicliffe is a possible future star, but not for another season or two.
Mik

09 May 2012 19:33:53
Phillipe Aucliar, French football expert thinks by sunday at 5:00pm Eden Hazard will have the choice of any english Champions League team and also ruled out he has said he will be playing in blue next season saying who was he talking about Coventry or Cardiff.

Cardiff are playing in red next season

Haha great retort. As much as I would love the player at the club I wish he would just bloody announce who he really wants to play for instead of teasing and apparently whoring himself about to see what offers are there for him. Hazard and Pogba rumours and wonderings both starting to do my head in to the point of if they dont have a passion to play for this club good luck to them foxtrot oscar as good as there potential seems to be
Invisible STuey

If they do not want to play for United we don't want or need them. there are plenty of class players around. City can only sign 24 at most. We only need three...

Everton

At the end of the day no one knows what is happening behind closed doors, may have taken a while longer for United to come up with an offer taking into consideration City have probably paid bare P upfront. Maybe like bonus and addons depending on performce etc. Will be interesting to see, also after Sheringham sayin' he reckons SAF will go after Sneijder again this summer.. What does everyone think?

Sneijder
Kagawa
Hazard

If that happened, or somethig along those lines i'd tickle a brick

Ozwald

09 May 2012 19:10:31
everton fan here heard a swap is on rodwell for Hernandez can you tell me if this is true thank you {Ed004's Note - 100% No}

Thanks mate knew it was rubbish

Only way I could see that is if we bought Rodwell, and loaned Hernandez as a sweetener.. To get game time, say if a new BIG name striker (RVP, Higiuan (sp), ...) came in. But still can't see it.

DodgyBanter

Stop with this nonsense...

09 May 2012 18:04:52
Manchester United are lining up a sensational move for Arsenal skipper Robin van Persie.

The 28-year-old has just one year left on his current deal at the Emirates and there has been intense speculation over whether he will remain at Arsenal.

Van Persie, who has hit 35 goals in all competitions this season, has stated that he will hold talks with Arsene Wenger over his future in the summer.

Manchester City are reportedly ready to pay the Dutchman £250,000 a week to quit north London, while Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona have also been linked with moves.

Now United have joined the chase, with Sir Alex Ferguson planning to strengthen his squad this summer after a disappointing campaign that looks set to end without any silverware.

talkSPORT understands United have already sounded out the possibility of van Persie making a switch to Old Trafford, and are prepared to splash out big on the former Feyenoord man.

City will pay for Van Persie before sunrise tomorrow!!

Would love this to be true but think its just gossip.rooney and rvp up front would be amazing.

09 May 2012 16:57:38
Rumour is that we are looking to sign Van Persi. Is this likely to happen?

AndyMUFC2104

I bloody well hope so! Imagine Rooney and RVP up front, mmmmmmmm

But tbh it would be hard to see him play for any other club in the PL, my bet would be he either stays with Arsenal or goes abroad. Perhaps I'm being naive but he seems to have a bit more respect for his club than Nasri/Clichy did (hope Im not wrong and he signs for City!)

Gav

I don't know if it will happen or not, a part of me hopes that it does, but the other part hopes that it doesn't. The player i really want to see here is Eden Hazard, if we sign van Persie then Hazard's arrival is even more unlikely.

RedDevil19

Would be a great signing but sounds unlikely at odds of 20-1
20 Rising

09 May 2012 15:43:35
Probably gonna be an unpopular post here but my opinion on Hazard is this, potentially an awesome talent but like a couple of Ed's have said, the boy talks to much! He has flirted with all the big clubs in the premier league so far and not once made a passionate declaration to who his preference is!

Gaitan on the other hand has come out and stated he WANTS a move to us!

For me, this is important, a desire to play for the club! I think in the past some players have "bottled" the chance to come to us because of the pressure that goes with playing for Manchester United so when a player openly wants the move, if they have ability then with that passion, they, for me, would be a better buy.

Now I am only going on what players, players agents, people "close to" the player have to say but I would imagine this is a consideration SAF would look at as well!

Just my views on it though.

Ports

Agreed, I would think attitude would be an attribute SAF regards highly

Gav

It is, this is the reason why i think Gaitan and Kagawa are likely deals to happen, both have mentioned how they'd love a move to MUFC. Another player who has done similar is James Rodriguez.. But i cannot honestly see us signing both Gaitan and Rodriguez. I would actually prefer the Porto man however with Gaitan being 24 he has a few years more experience that could be a factor?

Ozwald

09 May 2012 13:45:46
there are whispers going around that city are trying to hijack the m'villa deal. Mort

NO: The fact is the deal has been struck with Arsenal but Arsenal have cancelled the deal.

Were we in for m'vila then?

Actually, m'villa will sign with arsenal, only if they are in champions league next year, so only fee has been agreed , and we should interfere offer extra and sign this lad, he is gonna be a star

De jong is going so i d say they will end up going for him

M'vila for under 20 million is an absolute steal. Though apparently he's a gooner, would love him at OT.
Mik

No we wasn't in, just thought i'd pas it on though. I expect him to go to Arsenal, just City making mischief. Mort

The reason Arsenal have stalled on the deal is because M'Vila was arrested for assault and could face charges.

United Till I Die 1987

09 May 2012 13:32:35
Out of curiosity, i remember a while back someone on here say that they had connections to a football agency that van Persie was part of. The person on here said we were in talks with van Persie's representatives, and today a similar story has come up in the press. It's probably tabloid rubbish, but nevertheless it is very interesting. I suppose that a Kagawa and van Persie could be a combination that we decide to bring in in the summer.

RedDevil19

09 May 2012 12:43:05
Don't why anybody would come up with a Utd bid for Pique,when he left here he stated he was struggling to settle in Manchester&if I rem Fergie said along the same lines as a reason to why the let him return to barca,The gaitan rumours seem to go on&on but Utd reported to getting fed up of keep having to deny this story&that gaitan will not be at utd next season,The Kagawa story seems just seems to be coming from Germany,if had as reported he had said he was joining Utd then Utd would have been pushed into making a comment on a deal but nothing,The Hazard again diff reports of statements of what he apparently said,I guess he knows he's got quite a few teams after him&advised by agent to play the game of playing clubs off against each other for better personnel deal,the other week arjen robben was linked everywhere diff statements&had fell out with bayern then as many do you hear they signed new deal its all a game!with fergie as in the past your just left waiting to see who he signs,he plays the game over app after one player when really after another, I remem Senna of villareal complaing felt like used as utd had so called been interested then next had signed hargreaves,in truth it all comes down to what money he's got to which level shop he goes buying at

That is the longest sentence I have ever read!
Woffsta

There isnt a full stop at the end.. it is never ending!

And what point were you trying to make!?...

Gpot7

Worst post I have ever seen.

Are you pissed.

Pique returned Barca due to this Grandfather getting his place back on the board/Commitee. We only got him in the first place due to his Grandfather's fall out. Fergie has stated these facts in interviews not the crap your talking about.
SC

09 May 2012 11:41:04
heard that hazard has said he will definately be wearing blue next season, which means either city or chelsea. i think we all know where he is going and why.

SteUTD

Apparently he was also quoted as saying he likes red and blue, and that money wasn't an issue for him. What does that tell you? Personally, I don't listen to any of it, anything he says will be passed along and exaggerated, and will become more and more distorted the more it is repeated.

TM {Ed002's Note - What it really tells you is that he talks to the press way too much.}

You been reading bbc website

Yawn...we had this yesterday. He didn't say that at all. He said he had no preference between blue and red. We might not sign him and he might go to City but lets please have actual quotes rather than second hand quotes from lazy journalists.
Mac Utd

He could just be talking about what color his underwear will be next season.....

Robbo

09 May 2012 10:32:43
Hey ed anything new on the Kagawa and Gaitan front ?
Have there been any talks at all with us recently?
Thanks!

K10 {Ed002's Note - Kagawa says that a move to Manchester United would be impossible to turn down. Reinhard Rauball has made it clear that there still hasn't been contact with Dortmund from another club. I would not be surprised to see him stay at Dortmund. Manchester United and Barcelona both showed interest in Gaitan but Juventus, PSG or Napoli may be the first to eventually put an offer on the table for Gaitan. My understanding is that Manchester United and PSG did speak with Benfica in January but no bid was made. I understand that it remains the case that no firm bid has been made but Benfica are aware of sustained interest. Asking price is and will continue to be an issue. If Manchester United can agree a price I am told that the player would welcome the move.}.}

09 May 2012 09:52:30
Arrivals and departures I would like to see happen and Manchester united this summer if we are to stop city next season aswell as having a good champions league run.

In
Kyle Walker (could form a partnership with Jones and Smalling for England)
Mat Hummels(ferdinand getting abit old and Jones and Smalling stillnot at the top level yet)
Jordi Alba but if Barca get him instead, Baines
Kagawa
Mario Gotze (may have to wait a year as he looks to be staying put fornow)
Eden Hazard

Out
Park Owen Giggs -retire Kuczuack

Well it would be awsum if the rumors become reality. we badly need a midfielder. and a cover for Vidic n ferdinand . hope something happens for us this transfer season.

You say we need cover for Rio and Vidic, but have not mentioned Evans. Up until the Everton game he was playing really well, now all of a sudden he is a forgotten man! Some United fans need to take a reality check sometimes. Yes, of course we need an injection of new players but lets not just but any old crap! Let's look at the team objectively and say do we really need that or this? For me, I would prefer a fullback who could provide backup on both sides like we used to have in the past. We need both a defensive and attacking midfielder and I also believe we will need a new forward once Berba, Owen and Macheda have been shown the door. I honestly think we are ok for centre halfs with the squad we have.

Red Pedro

Thats about 115m in total,never going to happen
johndenton

You'd best get your wallet out then hadnt you mate :)

TK-Red

Doubt Walker will be signed as he has just signed a new contract at Tottenham!

09 May 2012 08:44:55
ive just heard a rumour on twitter that kagawa is going to sign a new contract at dortmund and it will be announced today,heard anything ed's?

phil {Ed002's Note - It was Twitter that created this mess. Liverpool, Manchester United, Udinese, Spurs, Villarreal and Valencia, who have shown an interest in Kagawa this past few months. Kagawa says that a move to Manchester United would be impossible to turn down. Reinhard Rauball has made it clear that there still hasn't been contact with Dortmund from another club. I would not be surprised to see him stay at Dortmund.}

09 May 2012 00:23:03
I'd like to fix a common misconception. Kevin Strootman is NOT a defensive midfielder. Tackling is the area of his game he has to work on most. He used to be an attacking midfielder in the trequartista kind of role but he's dropped back into a deeplying playmaker kind of role, He's a Pirlo type player not a Gattuso type player. As he's sitting deep he can cover defensively to a certain extent but he deffinately isn't a direct replacement for Keane. He's more similar to Carrick but with more attcking intent and cooler under pressure. He is a player i rate very highly though and would be more than happy to see him join. But if he does don't expect to see a player who is blood and thunder as this isn't the type of player he is.

Shappy

Very true Shaps, but to be fair are we actually looking for a defensive midfielder? We have not attempted to sign one since Essien so why would we start now? Carrick isn't a defensive midfielder, neither is Fletcher. They are ball winning central midfielders that tend to stay on their feet. I think we will buy someone like Strootman who will put a shift in and will break up play by pass interception like Carrick. The benefit of having a player like this is they are also good going forward and they have plenty of energy. Take Mascherano for example, good tackler, but useless at anything else. Garcia & Martinez have more to their game and would do fine, but a player like Mascherano is limited in midfield which is why Barcelona play him in defence. A player like Strootman will not go into tackles and sit in front of the defence 99% of the game, but he can break up play by pass interception and he can pass long, he has pace and he can attack. I would prefer two box2box midfielders over a DM & AM every time.

Sydney!

I think it depends who you pair together in a 2 man midfield

Good CM combo's for me are either:

1 out and out DM (Keane) and 1 creative attacking player (Scholes in his hay day)

OR

2 out and out central mifielders with one at least being able to protect the defence and at least one is creative, or a mixture of both (Carrick & Scholes in his recent deep lying role)

So what I'm saying is we could either go for a Strootman & Modric type combo (for Carrick/Scholes respectively) as they both sit deep and offer enough defensively between them or go for an out and out DM beast like Martinez and a more progressive midfielder like Eriksen or Kagawa (again just examples). Obviously the big + with Martinez is he also adds so much more than just tackling! But that's a different matter...

I agree with you though Syd that SAF seems to prefer the 2nd option these days (both sitting in midfield but without a tackling DM)...so with that in mind...Strootman & Pogba would make for a mouthwatering future pairing if Pogba would just stay!

Gav