18 Mar 2013 18:40:04
Sydney
You are going on about a player isn't worth X but is probably going to be sold for that value. Isn't it all about perspective? What the point of having a "worth value" if no club ever uses that figure. Or is it a reference where 10/20mil is added on to it. Sydney you're always going on about that player is worth this or that. In the end worth is determined on how badly a club wants a player and how much a club wants to hold on to him. Its not about how many goals or assists a player gets.

Sulei

1.) 18 Mar 2013
Sorry mate, don't mean to be rude, but what's your point? I don't believe Messi is worth £250m, but Anzhi were willing to pay it. I understand people on here believe Bale is worth £50m, I disagree. Isn't that what it's all about, difference of opinion?

Sydney!

2.) 18 Mar 2013
Yeh you're right about opinions, I was just trying to change yours.
By the way how do you base worth? For example messi scored 90 goals give or take last calender year, how much would you value him? If there were 5 messis. He wouldn't be worth 60mil but there is only one so demand is high.

Sulei

3.) 18 Mar 2013
Bale is not worth 50m as ronaldo was not worth 80m, but the price is dictated by the selling club, what syd is trying to say is, Bale could well end up selling for 50m but that is not what his value.
he is a 25-35m player tops, but to spurs he is worth more because they dnt have just another Bale in the rezzies to replace him with.
A players value is broke down into a mixture of things by the selling club when talks take place i. e league places potentially lost, CL qualification, Europa league etc, for example, Steven Fletcher of wolves last season cost sunderland 13-15m, but he is worth no way near that sum, but to wolves selling Steven Fletcher ment they had a big dent in there hopes of promotion in 1 attempt (and so it has proved), so to them a 5-8m player was worth to them what sunderland paid.

4.) 19 Mar 2013
Chris the REDman

Yes but what did you base this 5-8 million value on? the years remaining on his contract? the price of other strikers of the similar level sold before? and if so there value was based on previous players and so on.

5.) 19 Mar 2013
Cristiano was well worth the 80m real paid, every penny has been worthit for them, what are his stats, something like a goal every game and a half or something like that, ronaldo in my opinion will be the only player to go for over 60m until transfer fee's get ridiculously inflated and an average squad player that will usually cost 10-15m would bump upto 25-30 and the world class players would go from 30-40 to 40-90m football will go into a crisis, and we are powerless to stop our game being destroyed, gets me mad when city and anzhi and psg pay ridiculous prices summer in summer out, effing annoys me.

6.) 19 Mar 2013
Gareth Bale's independent valuation is £37m. That is his market value. But due to an inflated market and Spurs being hard bargainers he will likely sell for between £45m-£50m. Personally I value him at £35m-£40m with his British premium. Players like Hazard I would put in Mata's bracket of £25m, Moura in Oscar's bracket at around £20m. We know they sold for more, but that is another example of an inflated market and Sugar daddy owned clubs not caring about overpaying for players. So with Hazard & Mata rated at around £25m, I think £35m would be a fair price for Bale, £40m with his premium. But I would expect him to go for more.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - You appreciate this is all BS I assume Syd?}

7.) 19 Mar 2013
Didn't mean to slate your beloved Chelsea Ed, but Chelsea have overpaid for players i'm sure you would agree? Torres was not a £50m player even when in his prime. Clubs like Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi & City do not mind paying over the odds when the owners are footing the bill. It's true isn't it?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - They are not a "beloved" Chelsea Syd, it's only a football team. I don't think I have ever said Chelsea has not overpaid on occasion. My point was all of the numbers you used are simply made up.}

8.) 19 Mar 2013
Didn't mean to slate your beloved Chelsea Ed, but Chelsea have overpaid for players i'm sure you would agree? Torres was not a £50m player even when in his prime. Clubs like Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi & City do not mind paying over the odds when the owners are footing the bill. It's true isn't it?

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - It is a football team Syd, hardly "beloved". I don't think you will ever find me saying that Chelsea and many other clubs have not "overspent" on occasion - it is simply a subjective term. My point was that all of these numbers you have given are simply made up.}

9.) 19 Mar 2013
Sorry Ed, didn't mean to send my post twice. I shouldn't have bothered with the figures and just said I believe Hazard should have cost in line with what Mata would cost etc etc. The £37m Bale valuation was from Transfermarkt, I know whatever a player is worth is whatever a club is willing to pay, but I thought it would be nice to put an independent opinion on it. I think I have just got too much time on my hands Ed, tending to my Peach Bhut Jolokia's and Yellow Fatali's isn't occupying my day ;)

That's what happens when you work til 9am, got the whole day to potter around with boredom.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Transfermarkt values are simply made up numbers Syd - ignore them completely.}

10.) 19 Mar 2013
Ed, can you give us an independent valuation on Bale or does this just not exist? I guess it changes on a week to week basis perhaps?

While you are about Ed, any news on United? I know the summer is some way off, but do you know of any enquiries? Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I have zero interest in the money Syd as it does nothing but confuse people now. There is nothing new I can think of aside from Eliaquim Mangala being looked at again.}

11.) 19 Mar 2013
Sydney

I think that's a fare price but what is this independent market value based on?

Yes I agree Cristiano for 80mil was a bargain, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it true Real got all that back in a couple of months from shirt sales?

Sulei

12.) 19 Mar 2013
Independent market value is a load of balls
In this current market bale is worth 40+
If spurs put him up for sale at the end of the season I wouldn't be surprised if they got 50 mill, ridiculous amount of money but that's the way it is.

13.) 20 Mar 2013
I am sure SAF will pay 40 for him for spurs were willing to sell to us but will not happen. We were willing to pay 35ish for Moura last year so 4o million for bale on current form is cheap.

Shahram