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09 Jul 2019 19:19:03
Ed are Barcelona interested in signing v lindelof.

jred

{Ed002's Note - No, I am not aware of any approach by Barcelona to Manchester United for him but as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options. I would think that Victor Lindelof’s future at Manchester United will be something his agent will be thinking about seriously not wanting to get stuck in the abyss with what is in reality a Championship level manager and a club who are planning on a record breaking expenditure on a series of knee jerrk reactions. I am sure they would love to get him in the Barcelona squad.}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 20:17:09
@Ed002

You're about to send the site into meltdown with comments like that mate although its the hard hitting truth that Solskjaer is out of his depth and should never have been given the job. He appears clueless and looks like a kid with a smile on his face who can't believe that he's got the job while everything seems to be falling around him.

I'd be interested to know what knee jerk reactions you are mentioning Ed002? Milinkovic Savic and Maguire?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a smile - simply wind.}


2.) 09 Jul 2019 20:25:25
It was on Sky before, where the player was questioning his future at United.

What can you do?

If you keep the Muppets on high wages, with no chance of competing for a decade and spend stupid money on has beens, obviously a decent player and agent is going to agitate for a move away to a club who can compete.


3.) 09 Jul 2019 20:27:57
Ed002 - can you shed any info on the knee jerk reactions?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I have done it over and over.}


4.) 09 Jul 2019 21:05:43
I would guess it’s Harry Maquire.


5.) 09 Jul 2019 21:20:24
he is in the same boat as frank lampard.

{Ed001's Note - not really, Lampard is being surrounded by football advisors and helpers with experience.}


6.) 09 Jul 2019 20:57:34
Absolutely agree. We are embarrassed and rudderless.

Question to the Oracle. Who will replace Gonner?


7.) 09 Jul 2019 21:01:18
Or the club can realise what is in front of them, sack OGS and get someone else in urgently before the window closes. Someone we can rally round and survive this season before it goes too far.


8.) 09 Jul 2019 21:46:40
May 2020 and i bet Ole will be sacked by then. wouldn't these players look at the bigger picture and think to themselves that if the manager isn't good then he won't last long.

Interesting times ahead.


9.) 09 Jul 2019 22:10:33
Love the positivity lads. Geeesshh. Ole is our manager. He will not be leaving in the immediate future. Why not get behind our manager who has his first transfer window to sort out this mess of a squad. Ole isn't on his own here either. Do you not think players with the right attitude would like to work with Mike Phelan and Michael Carrick? The high profile manager (Van Gaal and Mourinho) hasn't worked. How about trying a club man with the right management team around him?! Getting sick of the negativity.


10.) 09 Jul 2019 22:03:36
Jesus, that's a depressing read ed002. What are this club doing?


11.) 09 Jul 2019 22:17:20
Hah bloody marvelous. you all shot me down when I said ole will be gone before Christmas. now ya sacking him before season starts.
Football fans eh, who'd have em.


12.) 09 Jul 2019 23:11:13
You mean, someone you can rally round Red Man.


13.) 10 Jul 2019 01:10:46
Lindelof is going nowhere that's for sure.
When the window shuts we will know the squad and then it will be time to assess what realistic expectations are.
Unless there are 3 or 4 more signings and the same leaving ole has no chance no manager would.
The signings will come and the exits will leave in confident of that.
Im excited for the season ahead.


14.) 10 Jul 2019 01:12:50
Wow this site is full of negativity. Who knows if ole will fail or prosper? City and pool didn’t need much n haven’t done much upto now. Leicester have signed a player they had on loan. Not many other clubs have done much as of yet. Whilst I agree that if we start the season with our current squad we will endure a tough season but to write it off before it’s started and to already decide ole is a failure is terrible. I used to love supporting Utd and visiting these forums but they make dour reading these days. The whole thing above because an agent made a throw away remark about his client attracting interest from other clubs your all in meltdown. It seems a lot of you are waiting to say told you so? God help ole with the “support” he’s getting from our “supporters”.


15.) 10 Jul 2019 06:38:23
Nou

I mean someone the players and supporters recognise can do the job and have confidence in. If the club had undertaken the due diligence at the end of the season do you really think OGS would be the manager now? If Poch or Allegri were the manager would you and I mean you have more confidence for this season and future ones? Given the number of disenfranchised players seemingly wanting to leave I sense no confidence inside or outside the club of the top structure down and belief in the appointment of OGS is likely one but not the only reason we have struggled to get players in.


16.) 10 Jul 2019 07:41:54
All ready shouting to sack the the manager.
Dear me.


17.) 09 Jul 2019 23:22:13
Good way to bring out the toxic ed002 😋.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Ithaca best stop saying anything on the is page again.}


18.) 10 Jul 2019 07:48:02
From Ed002's comments, it feels like we are about to break the bank and pay premium price for someone?
I'm guessing Maguire and SMS.


19.) 10 Jul 2019 08:41:39
The records broken Red Man.


20.) 09 Jul 2019 23:14:16
Question for Ed2 - why did the board not back a winner like Jose but are about to spend millions backing a relative novice in OGS?

{Ed002's Note - This is what I said soon after he arrived:

"It was a bad move to appoint Mourinho and a bad move for him to accept. He doesn't see MU as a progressive club that will adapt to what he thinks they need. He doesn't like being in Manchester and there are those there who still see a blue tinge surrounding him. There was a major error in taking on Ibrahimovich - it is disruptive with the kids (although one specific issue has been overcome) and he wanted to move elsewhere. Mkhitaryan is a disaster waiting to happen. Pogba's career belongs in Spain or Italy - certainly not Manchester. Four players have been told they can go in January (and that is pretty much unheard of)."}


21.) 10 Jul 2019 04:28:02
@ed002 Barcelona match United in spending big and buying players who don't fulfill expectations and are trying to offload now. Coutinho, Dembele etc.
Neymar moved to PSG and now want to come back to Barcelona like Pogba came back for United.
Messi even told once Barcelona are signing substandard players who don't deserve to play for the club.
Players want to Join Barcelona because they have Messi without Messi in two or three years Barcelona will lose its fear factor.
OGS may be a championship manager but if Lindelof wants to play under the best manager he needs to go to Liverpool or City not Spain.
Liverpool won the UCL and almost won the PL playing that good in a wildly tougher league than in spain where it was virtually a freerun to the title for Barcelona and Barcelona lost to pool in the UCL where in the first leg Match they were outplayed comfortably in Nou camp and only Messi's magic gave that lead. Barcelona is also in a downward spiral as well, only easier Spanish league and Messi's magic slow down the downward spiral a bit for time being.

{Ed002's Note - Whilst you might have the Kleenex out for Klopp - he has won nothing else for years and years. This is a ridiculous post.}


22.) 10 Jul 2019 09:20:23
Hi Ed002,

Thanks as always for your honest opinion about United and for all the priceless info you very kindly provide.

You’ve raised the issue of the manager at a club being a reason why a player might want to join/ not join a club. Obviously the biggest draw would appear to be Guardiola but I can imagine Zidane and Pochettino are attractive bosses too.

In your honest and valued opinion, would you mind suggesting a couple of other managers who players see as a reason for going to a club please?

Many thanks Wallace.

{Ed002's Note - Quique Setien, Marcello Lippi, Ricardo Gareca, Max Allegri, Jose Mourinho ....}


23.) 10 Jul 2019 10:00:17
@Ed002 Liverpool set the benchmark last season I used them and Klopp as an example. Klopp, Wenger are better managers than Mourinho who is a serial winner of almost all the trophies. Those who appreciate the quality of football klopp, Wenger plays agree with me.

{Ed002's Note - You seem to have little grasp of reality.}


24.) 10 Jul 2019 09:46:53
Wow, that was a quick reply!

Many thanks Ed002!

{Ed002's Note - It was an easy question.}


25.) 10 Jul 2019 10:32:38
Ed002, sorry if this is a silly question:
You had stated, "as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options"
Does this mean the club is moving to new CB targets because of the inflated market?

{Ed002's Note - No, it means that as early as tonight Barcelona are re-evaluating their centre back options. It is nothing to do with an inflated market.

Perhaps they will soon pop along and see if they can help Lindoff to get out of the club?}


26.) 10 Jul 2019 10:55:32
002 you seem to have some incredibly strong fishing bait for bringing the toxics out of the woodwork!

I can see it's going to be another wonderful day of reading ridiculously negative posts on here today 🙄

#OleOut.

{Ed002's Note - I will now be very much limiting telling the truth on this page then. It is not worth the grief - I am sure you will get on much better without me explaining what is going on.}


27.) 10 Jul 2019 11:00:42
Thanks Ed.
Lindelof is the last player we would want out of the club.
Many posters even suggested him as a potential captain.


28.) 10 Jul 2019 11:21:15
Woah sorry Ed, my post was aimed at the ridiculous comments on a few threads in the past 12 hours or so, not your updates!

I thought my hash tag at the end got the sarcasm across, sorry for the confusion!


29.) 10 Jul 2019 14:07:40
I'd love to see Ricardo Gareca taking charge of one of the biggest clubs in world football what he has done with Peru is nothing short of spectacular in my opinion.


30.) 10 Jul 2019 15:43:19
does every manager not start of as a nobody.

10 years ago poch was unheard of and now he is regarded as a decent manager,

klopp has even been relegated as a manager and people think he's the best.

my point is proof is in the pudding and untill ole has a fair crack at the whip i feel its abit un called for with all the slagging off he gets.


31.) 10 Jul 2019 16:15:37
Catch up on threads here.

Ed002 gets asked a question, provides an answer that triggers, then gets triggered himself and then leaves.

Hopefully there's pod before see Ed002 on the other side of the window.


32.) 10 Jul 2019 17:13:51
The answer was provocative.


33.) 10 Jul 2019 17:16:53
united road. why can't we all just have a simple debate with no slagging off.

this page is becoming petty.


34.) 10 Jul 2019 18:54:50
The page is getting petty that's the point. Posters are asking Ed's questions but then don't like their answer (opinion) and reply posti g negatively which provokes other posters and editors who volunteer to time and info to the site.

Decent debates are a rarity these days.

Props the guys who made this site a lot more fun - ngiak, RFT, Syd, Ronnie.

All toxicity, defensive, negative life imitating art.


35.) 10 Jul 2019 20:44:40
To be fair, UR, most of the questions I've read on here recently, have been put politely and respectfully. All of our questions, unless we're heavily involved in the football industry, are coming from a certain degree of ignorance. That's why we ask the Eds in the first place. I know it must be a pain in the hoop seeing the same questions, but just put different ways, over and over again. But I think a certain Ed has been particularly provocative, today. Almost as if he's engineering a way out 😁.


36.) 10 Jul 2019 16:42:19
Keeping telling the truth ed002, it really is appreciated. Ignore the idiots.


37.) 10 Jul 2019 23:37:43
Cheers Ed for answering my thread

Seems rather political at OT!


 

 

18 Dec 2018 13:55:37
Solskjaer name had been mentioned.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Regardless of him managing the reserves for a few years it would be high risk in my view. It would be an enormous step up from Molde so it is hard to be confident it would work.}


1.) 18 Dec 2018 14:11:01
It's a risk but then again itsxonly for the next 5 month .

{Ed002's Note - Why would he leave his job for such an offer then?}


2.) 18 Dec 2018 14:16:51
Any information that suggest that board is happy with Woodward and he will continue in his current role.
Would DOF takeover him later on the footballing front.


3.) 18 Dec 2018 15:05:46
Maybe get paid 3x the salary over the next 5 month and raise his profile .

{Ed002's Note - I think that is a pretty dreadful thing to say. You ceratinly don't deserve anyone decent at the club with so called supporters saying things like that.}


4.) 18 Dec 2018 15:11:31
We're not entitled to anyone and anything Jred.


5.) 18 Dec 2018 15:22:50
I think the guys already fairly well known an maybe he likes managing his hometown club.


6.) 18 Dec 2018 15:27:50
Isnt the whole OLE rumour based on the fact the Norweigan league shut down 3 weeks ago until March, the tabloids are jumping on the fact he is sitting at home watching countdown for 3 months so why not? (ignoring the fact he still has work to do with Molde in the off season)


7.) 18 Dec 2018 15:30:48
It's not Ole, his tenure at Cardiff was not great. Apparently it will be an ex-player. Steve Bruce anyone.


8.) 18 Dec 2018 15:35:53
Could Giggs job share with Wales?

{Ed002's Note - Sure, it gives him an excuse when things go wrong.}


9.) 18 Dec 2018 16:24:54
Hi Ed002, hope you’re well. You’ve previously mentioned Berta and Campos regarding a DOF role. Are there any further names being considered, possibly even left-field options?

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with this at length before. Nothing has changed.}


10.) 18 Dec 2018 16:45:45
I have looked at previous posts now and you gave us some good suggestions. Thanks again, hope you have a quiet evening!

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


11.) 18 Dec 2018 17:09:25
Blanc can be the only serious contender surely?

{Ed002's Note - To a large extent the press release has been a self inflicted wound. I have no doubt that Laurent Blanc would take the job on a permanent basis but perhaps he feels his "hands would be tied" (I am paraphrasing) if he would simply be asked to coach until the end of the season with little or no control over players or transfers in January? If he really wants the full time job and I am sure that there is a concern that if he is constrained as an interim it may not go well as it could and could then potentially exclude him from the opportunity in the summer. For me is would be an excellent choice for the club in the long term. If it is going to be simply an interim role Solskjaer and Phelan may do a decent job but it means Manchester United don't have a good long time solution. OGS would need to leave his current job after MU negotiate with his club and, good or not (at the very least risky), could easily find themselves at a loose end in June. Perhaps the club should reconsider how they are looking to transition to a new coach and at least give a good opportunity to an interim coach to get the role on a full time basis.}


12.) 18 Dec 2018 18:26:18
United saying that we will appoint an external interim manager until the end of the season within 48 hours led me to believe that they had someone already lined up. If this isn't the case then why even mention it? As a precursor to any manager taking over that they're not permanent and don't expect any money in January or a say on which players stay or go?


13.) 18 Dec 2018 20:13:07
As someone who watched OGS throughout his time at cardiff (from his appointment, to the relegation and to the subsequent firing while in the championship), I can confirm that he was in my opinion the worst manager we have had in my time as a supporter. Defensively he was woeful, going forward we looked confused and overall we had absolutely no plan. He made selection decisions which absolutely mystified the fans, e. g. playing our best midfielder at left back (more shocking as he was slow and couldn't defend) . Not only were the results bad but his signings were out of their depth and he left the club in a position which we are only just now recovering from. If he does take the united job, it would surprise me if he makes it till May.


14.) 18 Dec 2018 22:16:01
Hi guys not posted on here for ages as I lost my username RRED7

Really don’t want to be sentimental and watch Ole ruin his legacy at our club, Someone who can cement the players and instantly have their respect would be the candidate for me and Blanc I think fits that bill. He would probably regardless of your opinion of him get the best from Pogba who if you believe all the rumours has been a catalyst of Jose getting the boot. I honestly think we will see a different Pogba now who will put a shift in.

I don’t like what he has done this season or today with his tweet but he has the potential played the right way to ignite us.


15.) 19 Dec 2018 07:11:07
Pogba should be next out the door.


16.) 19 Dec 2018 11:52:02
The problem with hiring Blanc for a team built around Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Bailly, Fred, Young, Lukaku:

goo.gl/FXPyN7


 

 

22 Nov 2018 15:58:43
Ed any truth in the rumour Madrid are interested in Rasford.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Yes there is interest from Real Madrid and Juventus to some extent.}


1.) 22 Nov 2018 17:00:35
Why would they want him? He's rubbish, even the great, the wonderful and the all knowing Jose Mourinho can't get the best out of him.

Clearly he can't be any good.


2.) 22 Nov 2018 16:53:22
Cheers ed.


3.) 22 Nov 2018 17:11:11
Loads a talent going to be a good player . Hopefully at United.


4.) 22 Nov 2018 18:04:24
Shappy, I think your single minded hatred is slowly damaging your reputation on here.


5.) 22 Nov 2018 20:15:39
Agreed Fresh.


6.) 22 Nov 2018 20:38:27
Be careful shaps don't want to be one of them players who just come on to have a rant about certain players .

To be fair to shappy he does make some good points about Jose and asks some Interesting questions.
That people either miss or choose to ignore .


7.) 22 Nov 2018 21:35:18
+1 Fresh.


8.) 22 Nov 2018 22:31:51
There are a lot of people don’t rate Rashford and would be happy to see him sold. Yet Madrid and Juve must see something others don’t.


9.) 22 Nov 2018 23:09:16
Played in more games than anybody else last season as a 20 yo more than players like scholes becks butt did at the same age. I think he is doing fine. The manager sees the same perhaps ajh.


10.) 22 Nov 2018 23:13:41
The reason Madrid and co are interested in Rashford it is because he is going to be cheaper then their first choice targets.

It is one thing to play in la liga and serie A then playing in the premier league.

I also think if Mourinho stays then one of Rashford or Martial is not going to get the games they want as Mourinho is under pressure to win and he won't win with two rookies who are still learning their game.

It is best for Rashfors to move to get important game time. He could even go on loan to a premier league to get game time and then come bk to our club when he is ready.

We have become a cosy club and need to be ruthless in decision making.


11.) 23 Nov 2018 00:02:46
Singh
So you think we should get rid of a rookie like martial who has scored in his last 5 games and buy who .
A world-class player like Sanchez?

Maybe Madrid and juve are interested in Rasford because they can see the potential of a 21 year old player playing for England and United.

I have taken a step back from the site to be honest because some of the views and insights really have changes from a few year back.


 

 

26 Sep 2018 10:02:11
Just read this sums it up for me

Where was the game plan, the identity, the intensity? Echoing Paul Pogba's words, the man who was unceremoniously relieved of his duties as stand-in skipper, the Stretford End chanted 'attack! attack! attack!

jred

1.) 26 Sep 2018 10:47:54
Come on Jred don't try to think rationally.

Just blame Pogba.

After all, it's Pogba's fault Frank Lampard who has been in management since June and his team plays better ball than Jose.


It's also due to Pogba's haircut, social media antics, lack of commitment and respect to the club that made Mourinho who so much loves and respects the club say Man United have no football heritage after we lost to Sevilla.


Also, regardless that Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham were below us last season and the fact that they lost more games than us but were never outplayed by Wolves, Huddersfield, Derby and the likes at home within the matter of a few days, Mourinho had nothing to do with it. It was all Pogba's fault.


Even the fact that we cannot count 15 games we utterly dominated throughout without looking vulnerable or likely to lose the said games at a point in the last 3 years cannot be Mourinho's fault - it's all Pogba's.


That's probably why Juventus kicked him out because he's a no-good, pre-madonna who only cares about his looks, social media and running his mouth to the press.


2.) 26 Sep 2018 12:31:23
The Stretford usually chants attack attack attack and they did so last night but tbh not until in the 94th minute.


3.) 26 Sep 2018 12:36:04
Very much his scapgoat last year, herrera must be pleased it isn't him this season.


4.) 26 Sep 2018 12:49:10
pre-madonna haha love it.


5.) 26 Sep 2018 19:12:05
Keep hearing about pre-Madonna's. Do we have any post-Madonna players?


6.) 27 Sep 2018 15:25:46
What we need are current-madonnas.


 

 

27 Aug 2018 16:52:08
A lot of talk matic will play in a back 3 tonight.

jred

1.) 27 Aug 2018 17:41:22
That's pretty much how he was utilised a lot last season anyway.


2.) 28 Aug 2018 19:41:51
And as it panned out it looked like we played nobody at the back.


 

 

 

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07 Dec 2019 19:41:34
Can you imagine the stick the manager and players would of got if they had got beat .
Spurs and city put to bed.
Breath of fresh air step in the right direction.

jred

1.) 07 Dec 2019 20:05:56
Ole's earned himself a grace period at least until Christmas fixtures and we get through those unscathed, top 4 is definitely on.

It's up to the board now to come up with the goods, get him a couple of mf's and striker in jan.


2.) 07 Dec 2019 20:13:22
Time and again we have failed to build any real momentum. So you are bang on its a step in the right direction.
You get the feeling if they could get a little run going that momentum swing could lead to a strong second half of the season with 3 cups and a top 4 finish all to play for.
We need a shrewd signing or 2 in jan to maintain some momentum. With effectively only 3 snr attacker's in the squad plus greenwood. We can't expect them to play every match.


3.) 07 Dec 2019 20:15:25
Indeed pal. I imagine a few will be quieter.


4.) 07 Dec 2019 20:29:42
Great week for the team and ole. Hard working, full of energy and finally some end product from our attackers.

Wan bissaka, mctominay, rashford and martial were all immense today.

Ole still has to prove that he can set a team up to break down teams that play with a low block but definitely a step in the right direct and will keep him in a job.


5.) 07 Dec 2019 21:10:43
3 proper signings in the summer, a return to DNA, a real plan .
Fans on here react
On a game to game basis, but anyone who takes a step back?

There is a blue tinge on the site that leads a few . But we have at last took a forward since the last 5 year .
Peace it, be back again when it a decent read and not the same people with the same negative drivel.


6.) 07 Dec 2019 22:13:23
jred - very good post!


7.) 08 Dec 2019 00:41:12
You drinking Jred?! 😁.


 

 

09 Nov 2019 21:49:04
Var is a joke, Sheffield united player was judged after nearly 4 minutes to have his toe 3mm offside .
Its killing watching a game live, spoiling the experience.
VAR was introduced to clear up clear and obvious mistakes not was he on side by 1mm.
Not that many times on the bus home have I really thought we got done by a bad decision, most time it works itself out . compare that to the wIting and not celebrating each goal.

jred

1.) 09 Nov 2019 22:06:50
VAR, I don't think is the issue. The technology is fantastic, it's those above who cannot use it. The rules need the be changed back, obvious offsides, deliberate handballs.

The interpretation of the rules, that's the real issue.

Years ago it was clear and obvious offsides, then they brought in tougher laws to aid the linesmen/ women and referees. VAR has been introduced and what you are getting is every hairline and body part being questioned.

Offside was brought in to stop goal hanging. Go back to older rules and VAR will be used better.


2.) 09 Nov 2019 23:05:08
But jred regardless if it was his toe he's offside that's the rules

Var is good for instances like offside but the referee should be going to a screen and making the final decision.


3.) 10 Nov 2019 00:07:24
Totally agree with you jred, your nostril can get done for a goal, when var feels like, then a clear penalty and it doesn't get involved,
A joke that var, the day of celebrating a goal Is gone.
Sorry 70,000 people we must just check was his toenail offside.


4.) 10 Nov 2019 00:41:09
next they will have better cameras that will see your pubic hairs and then say his shorts were definitley offside.


5.) 10 Nov 2019 06:32:27
That decision was a shocker, there was nothing clear or obvious about it and the game is becoming a laughing stock. Why don’t they make it about the players feet? If your feet are level then you are onside and if it’s millimetres then the attacker gets the benefit of the doubt. ir change it so that there has to be daylight between the attacker and the defender (copyright ken) so if any part of you is onside then you are onside. Whatever the solution, current decisions are plain silly.


6.) 10 Nov 2019 07:36:35
A bad workman will always blame his tools. VAR isn't a problem they use versions of it in several other sports without major issue.

The problem in football is two fold. Firstly, people aren't sure on how it's supposed to be used are those using it don't seem to know how or when they are supposed to use it. It seems like there is too much interpretation by the officials on how they can use it.

The second issue is the current laws of the game have been written for officials who don't have the advantage of VAR. The offside law has been an issue for years. The law states any part of your body you can score with is beyond the last man then you are offside. Yet they also so if your not 100% sure then you should give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking side. This is something that just doesn't happen. The number of times you see the replay of an offside decision that was given and on the replay you can see the player was offside by half an inch, which can only be seen when slowed down to half speed. Yes the official may have got it right, but there is no way they could have been 100% sure. They made an educated guess. That isn't how they are supposed to officiate.


7.) 10 Nov 2019 11:13:31
He was offside though so correct decision at least.


8.) 10 Nov 2019 12:51:37
How do they measure the exact moment the ball leaves a player's foot? Surely that is a matter of millimetres?


 

 

27 Aug 2019 16:24:49
What's peoples opinion on this,
The Premier League table since Solskjaer took over

1. Manchester City - 54 points 
2. Liverpool - 52 points 
3. Manchester United - 40 points 
4. Arsenal - 35 points 
5. Chelsea - 34 points 
6. Crystal Palace - 34 points 
7. Tottenham Hotspur - 32 points.

jred

1.) 27 Aug 2019 16:36:44
Ha, if that's true jred, I find it absolutely hilarious.

I can't wait to read the comments on this 🍿.


2.) 27 Aug 2019 16:38:41
Get the red tinted glasses off jred with your facts and damned lies.

We are useless and always have been.


3.) 27 Aug 2019 16:42:57
Jred as I said at the end of a post below, I think it provides a little perspective.

We all know we are not back to where we need to be.

I think there are some positives, 3 good signings who improve us, signs of more effort and urgency to our play, which we all were not happy with last year.

That table shows me that things are not as quite as dire as we might think with the disappointment of the last two results. It shows that over an extended period we were closer to the top than bottom. 3rd is better than 5th or 6th.

Teams aren’t judged in the PL on wether they had a blinding January or got maximum points on November. They’re judged over 38 games.
Factually, when you look at our last 24 we are 3rd. That cannot be disputed.


4.) 27 Aug 2019 16:45:55
Come off it, this is heavily influenced by the amazing run we went on between december and march. We have won 3 games out of the last 16 under ole and people are right to be worried.

What is more reflective of oles management ability, that amazing run or the dismal run we are still on, we will have to wait and see.


5.) 27 Aug 2019 17:02:26
Would you rather we didn't have that amazing run.


6.) 27 Aug 2019 17:15:36
I fully agree with everything you all said here.


7.) 27 Aug 2019 17:14:06
Typical Jred.

Ba3s on your table qe are only 6 point ahead of Crystal palace with a far superior squad and spent ten times more money then them.

This shows how below par we are currently performing.


8.) 27 Aug 2019 17:24:32
Wrd. That's an interesting question.
Im not sure of my answer to be honest.


9.) 27 Aug 2019 17:31:52
Or maybe, Palace aren't a rubbish side, and it's a very tough league. Should Spurs not be above them if we're talking money spent and superior squads?


10.) 27 Aug 2019 17:41:29
i thought ole was the savour last season going to get 4th easily. he started of great and ended abysmally.


11.) 27 Aug 2019 18:00:33
That’s a very interesting stat, Spurs also went well of the boil in the latter part of the season but had banked points earlier.

There is an incongruity here. How can a team have such a great run followed by such a poor run as we did. I think there are issues to addressed; Lukaku and (hopefully) Sanchez going will help, a stronger RB and CB will also help. Pogba remains the enigma, if he doesn’t get his move will he deliver?

We are trying new things, promoting youth, pressing more. Ole may or may not work out but I’m happy to wait a few months to see.


12.) 27 Aug 2019 18:03:23
This is perfect and hopefully puts to bed this nonsense of judging Ole on the last 10 games of last season to try and prove a point without looking at the whole picture.

It also points out the run of form Crystal Palace have been on, above Spurs (UCL finalists) equal with Chelsea and only a point behind Arsenal. Stunning form and proves the point that some fans were extremely arrogant to suggest we would thump them 4 or 5 nil last weekend.


13.) 27 Aug 2019 18:16:17
The whole picture is that Ole started with an impressive run.

Since February he has struggled to produce consistently good results or football. I think he has been sold short by the board in the transfer window, but is in post precisely because he won’t complain about being sold short.


14.) 27 Aug 2019 18:22:18
What's the points tally since he was made permanent?


15.) 27 Aug 2019 18:34:14
I think lack of fitness did for us in the latter part of last season, as much as anything else.


16.) 27 Aug 2019 19:00:55
Mumbles

Exactly, that is what counts because most if not all temps get a good reaction, dead cat bounce I believe it is called. Would anyone in their right mind have appointed him if they reviewed it appropriately at the end of the season?

United fans are emotional sentimental beings, you only have to look at the arguments on here to see that.


17.) 27 Aug 2019 19:07:31
Fitness was an issue Stevie, but I think that our squad lacks the motivation to consistently give their all. Last season you could see the lack of desire once they had sent a message to Jose in Ole’s first few weeks. We had every opportunity to finish fourth, but the players looked like they didn’t care.


18.) 27 Aug 2019 19:14:15
Emotion and sentiment in football. Whatever next?


19.) 27 Aug 2019 19:30:54
This is a post that will not age well 😂.


20.) 27 Aug 2019 20:08:29
how can you motivate players that do not want to be here.


21.) 27 Aug 2019 22:45:28
Wazza I hope it is, I was surprised when I read it to be honest.


22.) 27 Aug 2019 22:49:35
The table I saw had slightly different numbers but the order was the same.

1 Liverpool 61 (GD 43)
2 Man city 61 (GD 41)
3 Man Utd 42
4Arsenal 40
5 Chelsea 39
6 CRYSTAL PALACE 38
7 Spurs 36
8 Leicester 35
9 Wolves 35


23.) 27 Aug 2019 22:59:18
Singh
I love that is what you gleaned from the table .


24.) 27 Aug 2019 19:04:26
We all have an opinion but the fact is in the 24 league games ole has been in charge only city and the scouse have more points .


25.) 27 Aug 2019 23:44:38
I know what you are saying jred. I'm just more worried about or current form and the trend we are to be following.

It would be nice to get the 3 points against Southampton, badly needed not just for the team but for ole too. I fear for him as I can see what's about to happen.


26.) 28 Aug 2019 07:34:05
This is worse than arsenal fans when they used to claim they had the most points over a year jan - dec.


27.) 28 Aug 2019 07:56:34
Interesting stats.


 

 

27 Aug 2019 16:23:41
We are 3 games into the new season.
3 games trying to introduce 3 new players plus add some of the younger players .
3 games into trying to implement and new style of play, a new formation and new tactics.
3 games into trying to build new partnerships new understandings .
4 teams are above us, only 2 teams have scored more than us, only 2 teams have conceded less.
Is it not a bit early to be making all these judgements?

jred

1.) 27 Aug 2019 16:37:42
You clearly know nothing. Ole will be sacked by Christmas and we will be relegated. Our top scored will be Rojo with 5.


2.) 27 Aug 2019 17:22:38
I can't wait for someone to oost the league table for the last 18 games in the epl i'm backing UA or redman to be the ones.
2 wins begore the intl break away to Southampton and home to Leicester will leave us in a decent spot after 5 games played.


3.) 27 Aug 2019 18:53:21
and if we do not win those 2 games with this unpredictabe side ken. we will be closer to watford.


4.) 27 Aug 2019 19:03:22
Ken

I hope we win both, however, as I said before the season I think we will start brightly and fade, I would be surprised if he is manager at the end of the season. However, if we lose at Southampton the pressure on the manager will ratchet up.


5.) 27 Aug 2019 20:42:57
Of course i know that you hope we win redman. i'm mature enough to know that mate.
Ive been a big martial critic but would love him to score In every game.
I know you don't rate oles chances of any sort of success very highly. His record as manager is not trending well.
Looking in isolation at this season whilst there has been some decent improvement in our play we have not had good results.
Its all a bit predictable and way to defend against.
We had a couple of good breaks against Chelsea at the right time but couldn't catch a break against palace.
Id like to see him try pogba at 10 let mctom play with fred matic or pierera in midfield.
In Jan he will have been here a year. let's pass judgement then on his 1st year in charge. He does Need to reverse the current trend no doubt about it.
If he doesn't reverse the current trend of 3 wins in 16 he will come under pressure. I genuinely believe we should be 2 or even 4 points better off but the fact is we are not. But 2 wins on the bounce will see us not too far off top spot after 5 games.
2 defeats in those games seems unthinkable so I'm not thinking about it😂.


6.) 27 Aug 2019 20:58:28
Hi Ken
I just think Ole is trying to go back to what worked in the past instead of revolutionising looking forward. I don’t see any tactical strength or game changing decisions in game. He has been given a bad pass by the board with the signings but I don’t see any structure in play.

I have been saying about pushing Pogba up in and around the strikers, less responsibility to defend, give him freedom to create. I would bring Matic or maybe Garner in. I do think there will be issues with belief in the players if we don’t get a good run together. Last seasons results late on will grow in their minds. Playing away on Saturday may help if Southampton come out to play, if they sit back or score first we may struggle.


7.) 27 Aug 2019 17:33:09
Ken why?
The last 3 games, the last 10 last 15, where do you draw the line .
Fact is since ole took over only city and the scouse have got more points .
Surely it is best to judge a manager on his whole record and not just part of it?


8.) 27 Aug 2019 23:15:25
4 points better off, so after 3 games we have 8 points.


9.) 28 Aug 2019 06:55:04
Jred

You judge on the permanent role. If you have ever dealt with or been a temp you would know the dynamic is very different to the expectation and pressure of being permanent. It was easy for Ole to come in smile and say nice things but once permanent that is the real start of the work. The players will look at the permanent manager far differently than a temp and it appears they have. 3 wins in 15 and you can bet there are few elite clubs who would accept that. Ole needs a winning run now.


10.) 28 Aug 2019 06:56:24
Jred.
The manager can only be judged after a sustained period. Winning 10 then losing 10 is no good. let's see if he can get it back again.
Ranieri won a league but the next year they were crap so he got fired.
If ole loses let's say 3 of the next 4 ( i don't think they will) then its 3 wins from his last 22 games that's a concern of the highest proportions.
So you got to look at the most recent trend to see where the team is heading
The manager needs to be appraised after a year. If the current trend of the las 15 games us not reversed then he will be sacked. If he reversed the trend and shows improvement over the next few months then he won't be.
Im not not like you i'm not calling for the manager to be sacked i'm saying give the guy a chance too prove himself.
But as much as you say he has done a good job over 24 games he has done an awful job over the last 15 with our lowest points total over the last 15 games. It would be folly to ignore those trends and say they don't need improving because they do and iuts perfectly ok to say that. Ole has said that himself.


11.) 28 Aug 2019 08:02:59
Ken, if Matic come in, he will probably struggle with the press. But I too like the idea of playing Pog at no 10 as nobody else is proven enough to open defences.
Mata although good technically, slows down play.
Many are calling out for an 18 year old Gomes to carry the creative burden.
Just shows how negligent the board was to address this key issue.


12.) 28 Aug 2019 08:35:29
Ken so what's a sustained period?
He has been in charge since december or does that not fit the narrative .
It isn't my opinion it's a fact that since ole took over only the scouse and city have got more points .
Maybe these players aren't as bad as some like to make out?


13.) 28 Aug 2019 14:43:30
Its also a fact that in over the last 13 epl games 12 teams have more points than us.
I think a year is a good time to make an appraisal.
Its been completely flip flop so we are not as good as the 24 game run or not as bad as the last 13 game run.


 

 

24 Aug 2019 13:32:09
I would like to see gomes get some time off the bench today.

jred

1.) 24 Aug 2019 14:07:24
Not going to happen didn't make the bench. i'd say cabero cup or any dead rubber in the EL will be the only time we see him this season.
I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves to be honest. i'm not sure there is long left on his contract and i don't see him getting enough time to satisfy him. It would be a real shame imo i hope he remains patient.
But ole wanted mata to stay jessie is getting the spot and periera is next in line. So there is 3 ahead of him. Chong is probably ahead of him out wide but i'd say that's his best hope in the short term.


2.) 24 Aug 2019 14:08:24
You might have to wait till the 86minute to see a sub.


3.) 24 Aug 2019 14:17:44
I'm sure Ole has sat him down and said look your'll get your chance your just 18. The contract situation is a little concerning but I think he'll sign up.


4.) 24 Aug 2019 14:24:41
Hope so mort it was not easy getting him to sign the last one. Lots of interest.


5.) 24 Aug 2019 14:29:15
He will play once we have midweek games. He will score. he will then force his way past lingard and stay there.


6.) 24 Aug 2019 14:36:49
I love that optimism. He has all the tech ability.


7.) 24 Aug 2019 14:41:22
I am not seeing much chance given to the vaunted youth like Chong, Gomes, Garner, and even Greenwood, I thought this was the new path, the United DNA? If you can’t give a start for one against Palace at home then you have to question why? Is it going with experience to get the necessary results due to pressure perhaps?


8.) 24 Aug 2019 14:52:23
No redman he is picking the best team available to him in the 3rd game of the season.


9.) 24 Aug 2019 14:52:54
AWB? Rasford? James? McTominay? Martial? Yeah, no faith in young players. Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?


10.) 24 Aug 2019 16:32:06
Be difficult when he isn’t on the bench.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2019 13:18:44
Have madrid bought well?
I 100% like the direction we have taken this summer .
Keep reading pogba will sulk because he didn't get his move, but you have to wonder what move? Madrid seem to have put money on the table for hazard and neymar.
Juve put dybala on the table for lukaku .

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15 Aug 2019 08:50:21
It was actually reported a few weeks back that Perez was looking at jose and pogba woukdnt be part of the long term plan .
Things change in football.

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13 Aug 2019 16:39:36
Dont put the ball in the net you don't score nothing to do with luck.

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11 Aug 2019 18:34:28
Manager looks a breath of fresh air,

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11 Aug 2019 12:50:40
Who said give him more time? But shouting for him to be sacked already seems a bit harsh.

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14 Dec 2019 09:18:31
100% it's a breath of fresh air and a step in the right direction.

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13 Dec 2019 04:22:31
Its great to see him getting a chance and not someone like mandukic.
Credit to ole.

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10 Dec 2019 09:18:26
Are spurs a top team that come out and attack? People always making these sweeping statements .
City attacked left space we exposed it .
Spurs where typically Jose sat deep and played long ball after long ball .
Injuries have hurt us and a lack of form from players and the team for various reasons .
Rashford for example is playing well at the moment regardless of it's a team that are in the so called top 6 or an international team. Same goes for a few others .

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07 Dec 2019 21:10:43
3 proper signings in the summer, a return to DNA, a real plan .
Fans on here react
On a game to game basis, but anyone who takes a step back?

There is a blue tinge on the site that leads a few . But we have at last took a forward since the last 5 year .
Peace it, be back again when it a decent read and not the same people with the same negative drivel.

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07 Dec 2019 19:44:10
Smaller teams who sit back. Spurs.

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