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15 Jun 2017 14:28:42
Reports Madrid have turned down a bid for morata and are holding out for 80 mil.


1.) 15 Jun 2017 14:47:17
If that's the case I'd say see ya and go look for a different striker.

How can they seriously ask for that much for someone who sits on their bench?!

2.) 15 Jun 2017 14:53:47
If that's the case and they come calling for dave the save. It's simple

We over price them as well. I can't stand Madrid.

3.) 15 Jun 2017 15:02:22
Bolger, I=if we follow the price for goalkeepers (Pickford 30 mil and Ederson 45 mil, there is no such thing as overpricing de Gea.

4.) 15 Jun 2017 15:18:09
Agree weggy walk away if there's any truth in 80 million we are trying to compete with real Madrid not finance their next superstar by buying there sub. Who else is going to give them anywhere near that, call there bluff and walk away or change target . I'd rather poke up Torino than real Madrid.

5.) 15 Jun 2017 15:24:54
The problem is we would be buying a player they don't particularly want and they would use the money to buy one the best young strikers in the world in Mbappe.

I'd rather pay an extra 30m and go for Mbappe instead.

6.) 15 Jun 2017 15:47:44

The problem with that is, that Mbappe doesn't want to come to United. You pay Monaco 200 Mil, Mbappe still wouldn't sign on the dotted line.

7.) 15 Jun 2017 16:44:33
Mbappe is so overrated one good season in france and there talking stupid money he's the same as martial but with confidence and playing in an easier league we need a number 9 Mbappe is similar to rashford, martial we need the finisher goal scourer! Morata'balotti, kane type player!

8.) 15 Jun 2017 17:30:18
If that's what Morata's price tag is get it paid and get him signed up, we can afford it, mourinho wants him and he wants to come. I would rather pay what they want than include de gea in any deal.

9.) 15 Jun 2017 18:09:20
Where does it end though GDS? At some point we have to draw a line and refuse otherwise the 200million war chest will only end up buying 2 or 3 players instead of the rumoured 5 that we're after.

I get the impression Madrid are just being arsey because they can't get De Gea from us easily.

10.) 15 Jun 2017 18:19:09
I agree GDS it's all speculation anyway.

The problem we're facing is the player is under contract, from what I've read Madrid would like to keep him and he has no real desire to leave other than to play more regularly which can't be guaranteed at any top Club he joins anyway!

Madrid can name their price, try and get the best deal for their Club and negotiate from a position of strength.

If we don't want to pay the money we go elsewhere but your probably talking even more money for the likes of Lukaku or Belotti and are either of them much better anyway?

If we don't go for any of the above who are the alternatives?

Do we go with just Rashford and Martial?

For what it's worth I don't think we'll pay anywhere near £80m and the deal will get done around £60-65m.

We set the bar high when we shelled out over £60m for the relatively unknown Martial, we can't blame Madrid for trying to get the best deal for their player.

11.) 15 Jun 2017 18:49:14
Danny IL try and offer a view as why a few struggle with morata price . What's causing his valuation people don't see it in his record, sub then 15 in two seasons at juventos then back to Madrid bench again, nobody saying he's a bad player . Is valuation because there's fierce competition for him forcing the price up, maybe but haven't heard much about that . Or finally is price seeming so high cause they don't want to sell, but they seem fairly keen to negotiate if that's the case, maybe they are only willing to negotiate because it's to good a deal for them not to . Personally I'd walk away explore other options and see if there stance changed a little if all interest went because of the price . Hopefully figures of 70 or 80 million is wild paper talk.

12.) 15 Jun 2017 22:20:06
These fee's are getting beyond a joke. Maybe it is just me but if we need to splash the cash wouldn't it be better to go after a Lukaku, Snachez or Costa who have proven guaranteed goals in England?

13.) 15 Jun 2017 22:36:31
40 mil. Is a good price for him.
When clubs see us coming they put the price of a player up.

14.) 16 Jun 2017 00:06:41
I would want us to go in for Aubameyang. Seems his move to PSG has broken down. He's rapid, scores goals. sign him up!

15.) 16 Jun 2017 07:17:20
I would take Aubameyang all day long - especially now the SUN (! ) is reporting Morata is offered 350,000 quid a week -.

16.) 16 Jun 2017 09:14:26
With you here MAZE.

If we're going to over pay for a striker we might as well go for one we know is capable of doing it in the PL.

Signing Lukaku for 80m makes more sense than signing Morata for 80m.

17.) 16 Jun 2017 13:45:31
It all comes down to how badly they want to sell him and, to a lesser extent, how badly the player wants to leave. If, as Zidane maintains, they don't want to sell him - then I can see them holding out for silly money. If, as I suspect is the case, they're looking to use the money as part of a bid for another player, they will try and get as much money as possible but will not push too much on the price for fear of scaring us away (as we are one of the only clubs stupid enough to pay that kind of amount right now) .

I can see us signing him for around £65m - which is way too much considering his true value but not so bad when you consider how much players like Carrol and Pickford cost in the past.

Personally, if the price rises much higher than £65m, I'd like to see us turn our attention elsewhere. I still maintain that every player has a price - and so if we're going to spend an insane amount I'd rather we throw the money towards the very best strikers like Kane or Dybala.

Their clubs may say that they don't want to sell - but offer the right amount and eventually they will bite. The players may say they don't want to move - but if you offer them enough money they will change their tune.

For what it's worth (and before people start making this point), I hate that I find myself making this suggestion. There was a time when I believed that the reputation of the club and the prospect of playing for us was enough to attract the best players - but that time has gone and football has changed. We haven't been competitive at home or in Europe for four seasons now - so we need to bring in the right players to get the club back to the top. If that means spending - then so be it. At least we're spending money generated by the clubs success rather than being bankrolled by oil.



01 Jun 2017 14:35:10
Matic rumour gathering a bit of pace.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 18:39:12
Good player IMO.



01 Jun 2017 11:28:55
Reports griezmann no longer a target and hasn't been for the last few week .
Big money striker will be the big signing.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 11:42:35
So lm hearing jred. Also hearing A. M want most of the payment upfront. Maybe, so many journos being briefed at the same time could be a negotiating tactic in order for madrid to lower their request. Either way buckle up, this saga may surpass twilight.

2.) 01 Jun 2017 11:54:33
It didn't say he is no longer a target anywhere.

According to the reports, he is still a target, he just isn't the top priority anymore as Jose wanted a no. 10 but following Zlatan situation, will now prioritise a striker.

3.) 01 Jun 2017 12:15:12
These are the comments made by Di Marzio yday, making wave now and have been recycle in other people's words. This is a proper roller coaster, i can't be asked with this transfer anymore!

4.) 01 Jun 2017 12:39:49
No there not.

5.) 01 Jun 2017 12:44:27
The reports say united turned there attention to a 9 when ibra got injured weeks ago .
Makes sense to be honest a new 9 could cost a 100 mill.

6.) 01 Jun 2017 13:10:24
Wasn't we after a winger and a striker anyway and now all of a sudden it's one or the other.

7.) 01 Jun 2017 13:54:44
My dad reckons it will be Morata and Bale coming in with DDG going the other way.
Claims someone in the know told him it's being discussed. He made similar claims last year about Bale so maybe take his comments with a pinch of salt!
That said would not say no to the first part.

8.) 01 Jun 2017 14:18:09
Jred, DI Marzio came with this yday. Griezmann was only 3rd pick and now everyone is reporting Griezmann isn't priority at all but still a target. The same sort of information but Di Marzio mentioned it first. Around 10oclock this morning ballague and a lot of others where having there opinion on AM ban, with a lot of them saying the exact same thing as balague, and that was all United need to do is activate clause which they are happy to do.

Few hrs later, a hear say article has hit on BBC about how Griezmann is no longer Priority with Moratta lukaku n other players being ahead of him. coincedently very similar to Di marzio yday!

Roller coaster and no one knows where it's stoppin!

9.) 01 Jun 2017 14:34:01
Either way it's a different story from a different source.



31 May 2017 11:52:30
Rumours Barcelona looking to spend 50 mil on herrer.


1.) 31 May 2017 12:57:41
As long as they don't use that £50m on Herrera we should be fine. Maybe we should scout this 'Herrer' though if Barcelona want him ;)

2.) 31 May 2017 15:52:33
The retired Chelsea right back? That's a terrible deal.

3.) 31 May 2017 17:09:42
I would take that, i know many wouldn't and this site would go into meltdown if we did!

4.) 31 May 2017 18:05:34
Dependent on what we would have to spend to replace him that could be a good deal.

5.) 31 May 2017 18:16:59
I'd take it. IF we had koke, Saul, verratti or weigl lined up to replace him but I'd rather sign 1 of them or fabinho and keep him.

6.) 31 May 2017 20:46:12
Herrera is more use to us than a measly 50m 😂 not like we need money.

7.) 01 Jun 2017 00:53:47
Measly £50 mil! Lol.

8.) 01 Jun 2017 06:42:01
I know mate sounds a ridiculous thing to say haha, however united don't need 50m and to replace Herrera with a top player we would pay at least 50m.



30 May 2017 20:44:56
United have stopped Darmian linking up with the Italy squad? Bit odd.


1.) 30 May 2017 23:48:44
Maybe a transfer in the pipeline. Wouldn't be a real shame IMO abs he showed he's a really good player in a number of positions this season. However he said no going to replace Valencia at RB and were looking for LBs so perhaps he couldn see game time as a viable reason to leave.

2.) 31 May 2017 09:50:09
It all seems a little odd. Apparently we have declined to share fitness information with national teams as well.

3.) 31 May 2017 13:42:58
No reason why we should share it. It's our intellectual property. Any member of the backroom staff could go to any club at anytime so I'd share nothing with them. We owe them nothing.
Why should we help any international side?

4.) 31 May 2017 14:02:21
How is fitness information ip ken, it is data that too belonging to the player.

5.) 31 May 2017 14:58:28
LOL Bit harsh ken.

6.) 31 May 2017 21:23:06
I'm pretty sure the club has to share it.

7.) 31 May 2017 21:41:53
Club data? I doubt we could be forced to disclose the club's own data on individual players if we didn't wish to. Releasing players for international duty is one thing but club data is another.

8.) 31 May 2017 21:49:28
In fact the role is clubs don't have too share it it is completely discretionary whether the club wants to share it.




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07 Jun 2017 14:55:36
Morata scored 15 league goals this season which is is better than his previous seasons total s of 7, 8, 8 and 2 .

He will turn 25 in a couple of month, would there of been as much demand for him on the site if his profile wasn't raised due to his association with Madrid having come through the ranks there .


1.) 07 Jun 2017 15:13:23
So a 24 year old scored almost as many league goals as Zlatan and nearly as many as our 2nd, 3rd and 4th top league goal scorers combined in a season mainly spent on the bench, not bad going really.

2.) 07 Jun 2017 15:21:11
My mate Benny '8 pies', scored 32 league goals this season, he is only 22 - how much should we spend on him?

Morata doesn't take us up a level, he hampers our top class potential to boot. I'd be dubious spending £30m on him, let alone double that. It's a joke, we would be even more of a laughing stock if this happens when it comes to agents and selling clubs. Slitting our own throats transfer wise, 50% premium just because we are interested is ridiculous.

3.) 07 Jun 2017 15:40:05
If he was playing for Sunderland with them numbers you wouldn't be wanting the club to spend 70 mil on him .
Fair play to Defoe 15 goals this season and the season before .
Lots of players scored as many as our 2nd etc. we had a mare in front of goal this season not sure that's standard to judge players against

70 mil for a striker that has scored 30 league goals in 3 seasons.
I thought he flopped at juve struggled in what is a very good juve team. He left, higuain came in and scored 24 to add to his 34 the previous year .

Decent player not top class imo if we sign him great but I think both rash and martial will be better players .

4.) 07 Jun 2017 16:08:12
Need to understand the amount of time he played last season, Morata averaged a goal every 88 minutes in the league which eclipses by far anything achieved by MU players and pretty much anyone else in the top leagues for that matter. Yes this was in La Liga but that is still an astonishing goal rate. at 24 there is potential for him to play at the top level for 10 years. With the way things are going now and the money involved with football, 70mil won't seem that big in a couple of years and if its spent on a player mourinho obviously likes and trusts then I'd be happy to bring him to MU.

5.) 07 Jun 2017 16:26:52
If we sign him great but I think he is being built up on here to be a better player than he is, which always happens when we are linked to a player .
Scored a lot of goals coming of the bench this season when he was fresh and the other team where 2 or 3 down .
Scored 15 in 2 seasons at juve
Decent player but imo people wouldn't be raving about him if he never had the Madrid connection .
Maybe a case of the best of what's available but not a great player imo .
That said, you don't need a team of superstars.

6.) 07 Jun 2017 16:50:03
Josh King scored a similar amount of goals for Bournemouth at a similar age why isn't there a huge uproar for us to sign him.

7.) 07 Jun 2017 16:52:00
I think you need to understand the astronomical fee involved in bringing him to Utd.
DDG is world class yet they want more than £52 million for Morata who isn't world class and is t the finished article unlike DDG.
Should we pay £85 million for Belotti because he has had one good season in Serie A.
Fools part easily with their money.

8.) 07 Jun 2017 17:25:47
Just been speaking to my holiday rep. Lovely Italian fella and big napoli fan. He describes Botelli as one of the best strikers he's seen. A beast of a player that only has one thought in his mind and that's putting the ball in the net. He also mentioned he has a fantastic work ethic. That's high enough praise for me. Sign him up Woody.

9.) 07 Jun 2017 18:21:02
I'd rather buy the other madrid striker.

10.) 07 Jun 2017 19:38:57
Ha ha yeah just seen that. I obviously meant Belotti eagle eyes but good spot. Isn't Betolli a type of butter? Could be tricky for dodgy English defenders to get a grip of maybe we should look at him instead lol.

11.) 07 Jun 2017 20:01:33
Just so long as it isn't Balotelli.



06 Jun 2017 17:51:13
‘I’m not [leaving] – I have a contract, so I’ll be back, I'm not saying anything about that [interest from United]. I say what I always say – I have a contract with Benfica, and that’s what I’m focused on. " Lindelof

The plot thickens.


1.) 06 Jun 2017 18:55:52
That's the exact response is Sammy from him as the sellling club and the exact sort of response i'd want from him as the buying club until all the details are complete and a deal is confirmed.
In fact its nice to see a player have a bit of decorum and show as little self publicity as lindelof on this occasion. If we do sign him it shows something of good character and a player that shows respect for his employer and any other ther potential employer. It should be the standard answer for Any player quoting on a potential move. Leave the publicity and the flirting with the press to the agents imo.

2.) 06 Jun 2017 20:13:30
He said the same in January.



31 May 2017 17:10:46
Raiola on zlatan "Oh, yes [he wants to stay at United]. He wants to stay in England, he wants to stay at the top and if he sees that he can be a valuable asset for Manchester United, then why not Manchester United"


1.) 31 May 2017 17:23:48
I'd want him to stay for at least another season as long as Rooneys gone!

2.) 31 May 2017 17:46:29
He is injured.

3.) 31 May 2017 20:01:31
Wondered if he'd have been so happy to stay, if we'd have missed out on Champions League.

4.) 31 May 2017 22:29:56
The same way he was not happy to come because we weren't in the Champions League?

5.) 31 May 2017 23:31:25
Most top players will risk one season out of it. But, two?

6.) 01 Jun 2017 00:07:57
Zlatan is not "most players" 😀.



30 May 2017 16:19:44
After the ed comments can we knock greizmann of the list.


1.) 30 May 2017 16:45:35
No, ed says united could pay over the odds for him and that's something we've excelled at in the last few years.

2.) 30 May 2017 17:09:29
What comments have I missed jred?

3.) 30 May 2017 17:17:10
"The release clause is of no relevance. Manchester United are keen. Chelsea had concerns and stepped back. Eventually Manchester United will understand why Chelsea stood back. I expect him to stay one more season in Madrid as it stands right now or they will pay way over the odds"

4.) 30 May 2017 17:30:28
That is a copy and paste from a post by ed months ago. He has posted several updates since then. Personally I think we will sign greizman.

5.) 30 May 2017 17:37:01
Is on Euro pages.

6.) 30 May 2017 17:39:29
Isn't that post from weeks/ months ago?

7.) 30 May 2017 17:42:00
Can't see anywhere in that to suggest we need to cross him off the list.

8.) 30 May 2017 17:43:24
Conspiracy Hat On - maybe all the Perisic talk is designed to apply a bit of pressure to Griezmann, ie make your mind up quick or we go elsewhere.

I appreciate we could sign both and both seem to be of interest, but these little tricks seem feasible to me and I can easily see us dropping the Perisic interest if we get Griezmann.

It would make sense for the club to have as much wrapped up as possible by the end of June so come July 1 papers are submitted and we can get cracking with a full pre-season. It would be foolish to be making signings during August with so much time and this summer being vital for Jose to get things well prepared - I'm sure the club don't want yet another long drawn out saga as much as we don't.

I understand the window isn't open yet before some of you jump on me misinterpreting my post for being my impatience at the club - it isn't that at all, I just think the club will be impatient this summer and so they should be!

9.) 30 May 2017 18:00:03
Someone has reported he has handed a transfer request in.
A madrid based reporter.

10.) 30 May 2017 18:19:55
Ken its on the euro page today.

11.) 30 May 2017 18:33:14
Can you imagine the reaction on the page if we don't sign griezmann.

12.) 30 May 2017 18:46:00
Don't utter such blasphemous words jred, many in this place and most other utd based forums will simultaneously commit muppet suicides if this transfer doesn't go through.

13.) 30 May 2017 18:48:52
I'm aware of that and its a copy and paste of an answer given months ago. That often happens as questions are reapeted frequently.

14.) 30 May 2017 18:55:50
United would maybe have to set a help line up.

15.) 30 May 2017 20:21:34
Id be disappointed but if we can't get him so be it. But greizman is a player in a bracket below Messi and Ronaldo alongside a group of maybe 6 or 8 players that I consider to be real game changers playing constantly well for a few seasons. Hazzard Suarez bale neymar dybala robben (in his prime) players that van win a game in a flash players that excite, score regularly assist drag defenders around and strike fear into opponents when they are on the ball in dangerous areas. They are players that can adapt to being doubled up on can cope without support on occasions and do something brilliant. Players that deliver on the big occasion
We have had players like that in the past. Giggs Rooney Beckham Ronaldo best rvp and many more.
But if we don't get greizman it won't be the end of The world we could get someone else that is a huge success and does all i hope greizman could help us do.

16.) 30 May 2017 20:39:53
I try not to get to caught up in it, we will sign who we sign lot of good players out there .
They don't have to be big names, everyone went on and on about pogba and idra last year Bailly turned out to be the better buy, herrera and Tony where our best players this year.

Looked down the page and 007 makes a great point, you do wonder if people would lose interest if united got a transfer ban .

{Ed007's Note - Woo hoo! (clap) Cheers, J. At least someone read and reacted other than young Patzi.}

17.) 30 May 2017 21:40:00
I missed it Bond but have now caught up, couldn't agree more. Once a fan always a fan but it's not the game I grew up with.

{Ed007's Note - It really does my nut in at times mate.}

18.) 30 May 2017 19:03:33
Imagine if he signs for city!

{Ed007's Note - :-D

19.) 30 May 2017 19:05:22
we will see woodward out planes flying jred. ;)

20.) 30 May 2017 23:09:45
Let's scratch him off then jred if you say so ;)

21.) 31 May 2017 02:27:21
If we don't get him, he'll instantly be deemed not really good enough for us anyway, and everyone will say they didn't really want him all along.

22.) 31 May 2017 09:48:17
Good post angle clap clap.

23.) 31 May 2017 11:38:03
Thanks jred. I always watch for you to scratch off a player. Having the inside track ;)

24.) 31 May 2017 17:15:49
I just asked the question after eds response .
"Can we" it starts a debate.



21 May 2017 18:03:09
No lap of appreciation from Jose, short with mutv and takes a strop at the after match interview and walks out .
What's going on there?


1.) 21 May 2017 18:29:34
Taking the eyes of the media and the world off the players and onto him 3 days before a big final for us maybe? Wouldn't put it past him.

2.) 21 May 2017 18:31:09
He is getting painfull to watch. one of the best jobs in football and to carry himself like that.

3.) 21 May 2017 18:39:00
Not sure about that, his only answer to any question from mutv was " I'm in a final "

4.) 21 May 2017 19:13:26
Exactly Jred, what better way to put the glare of the media on him? Everyone will be talking about how Jose shunned uniteds own tv station, which will take the some of the media coverage off the players a little.

5.) 21 May 2017 20:04:16
He could of maybe said a word or 2 about the young players who done very well today .
The media will just move straight on to the final any way now the league has finished.

6.) 21 May 2017 20:50:46
Jose Mourinho's comments will hurt those fans whose team finished the season higher in the league but empty handed. Tottenham, Man City, Liverpool and possibly aimed at the Premier League for not rearranging the fixture to further help prepare for the final hence the "final" comment.

7.) 21 May 2017 21:52:35
After watching jose and the way he's been behaving and his body language (no expert) for most of the season I personally don't think he will be here ( or even wants too be) for very long.

8.) 21 May 2017 22:59:55
Last home game of the season and while the players thanked and appreciated the crowd where was Jose.

9.) 22 May 2017 07:57:20

That would be my take as well. Frustrated and annoyed that the league have not helped. As to the lap, maybe he didn't feel he deserved to do it, he is a winner and this hasn't been what he would likely see as good enough.

{Ed025's Note - "was" a winner for me red man, hes in semi-retirement on that score as far as im concerned.. :)




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21 Jun 2017 17:48:35
What about morata? He scored 14 goals last season.




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08 Jun 2017 09:13:58
Was he not one of the players that fell out with Jose the other year.




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07 Jun 2017 10:26:53
A bit like that 60 mil bid for ddg?




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03 Jun 2017 12:48:06
Hope not.




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01 Jun 2017 19:59:11
He doesn't answer the call tho, is it a sign?





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23 Jun 2017 13:07:25
Bale comes with injury concerns but that aside he is a top class player different level to dembele.
Madrid might let a couple if players leave I would be surprised if bale is one of them.




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23 Jun 2017 09:59:22
I think maze has a fan club, people don't miss an opportunity.




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22 Jun 2017 13:43:01
Probably a better option than fabinho.




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21 Jun 2017 10:29:06
The fact these players are being prosecuted may point to the fact that there are shady dealings going on .




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20 Jun 2017 11:16:55
I don't think I'm biased at all .
People rave about fabinho on here a player we must buy . I'm not that impressed to be honest .
But he is doing well in a good team, not sure he would do as well elsewhere .
People as you say raved about martial last season why would they not if he was at Monaco .
Players like Carillo and Germain played and scored for Monaco so for me martial would of got game time .

Monaco have been great this season and suddenly all there players ate world-class and everyone is raving about them . Not sure that will be the case next season .
There will be a new flavour of the month .