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16 Jan 2018 12:51:26
BBC reporting that neither us or arsenal will agree to the sanchez transfer unless miki goes the other way.

No idea how much truth is in this, especially given how Ed02's previously stated that transfers involving money and an additional player are generally unlikely.

Imo if that's what's needes to get sanchez in I'd be more than happy, but it doesn't fill me with confidence for this transfer to happen.

RedD

1.) 16 Jan 2018 13:11:00
I can’t see it. I think miki will turn them down and it will go tits up.


2.) 16 Jan 2018 13:27:12
That's what in thinking. But then again, he must know now that he's not really wanted, so a move is going to be needed to reignite his career.


3.) 16 Jan 2018 13:28:18
Looks like it's other agents trying to scupper the Sanchez deal. If he comes brilliant . But let's not spend all January chasing a lost cause.


4.) 16 Jan 2018 17:15:59
It's being reported now it would be a straight player swap.


5.) 16 Jan 2018 17:51:52
Mhiki’s agent now stepping into the deal.

Enough said.


6.) 18 Jan 2018 13:22:23
Wenger saying deal is likely.


 

 

11 Jan 2018 12:53:59
Apparently we have put in a bid for Sanchez.

Made my day hearing that.

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18 Apr 2018 17:04:20
Sent by accident.

To continue.

What did the fans labeled as toxic do. And how was it allowed to happen?

I searched this site tons at the time to try and figure it out, but beyond the broad concept outlines I couldn't find any details and like many others we're really curious and interested to find out.

Does any other posted have any more details or can they find posts where 02 explained it?

RedD

1.) 18 Apr 2018 18:10:08
I believe just constant moaning about how rubbish we were, people like me calling for LVG to be sacked, and general consistent negative comments. Stuff that fans of clubs like Everton and others are doing right now, but our complaints were 10X more appropriate. I also read people connected to the club were not happy as well, which I think carries a million times more weight than 'random aliases' bitching and moaning for good reason online.

Imagine if Woody and Co were at Arsenal instead of Utd, Wenger should be counting his lucky stars.

I have no reason to doubt the long terms plans were in place and they were ruined, I think they forget they run a football club though and our club reeks of weakness, indecision and desperation - so what stock to put in those plans is questionable and why do you have to go through football hell to reach football heaven, it confuses me?!

I'd really love to see what sponsors, broadcasters etc were saying to the club behind closed doors under LVG - that will not have been helpful either I imagine and again will have been a lot more toxic to the club as it hurts their bottom line rather than just 'feelings'. Truth is vorboten it seems in this day and age if it is anything other than positivity!


2.) 18 Apr 2018 18:14:54
Type toxics into the search engine and go back to dec 15/ jan 16 its all there still, ed002 predicted what would happen so i'm not sure why people would question him, whether people agree or not us fans just need to accept it and move on.


3.) 18 Apr 2018 19:27:20
You talk my language Beast. Sick of people who are ok with mediocrity.


4.) 18 Apr 2018 19:27:42
I do recall the warnings of what would happen if fans pushed for a LVG exit. Don’t get me wrong, the football was really poor but I was happy to know Max Allegri was coming in and the club had a plan. Again I do love Jose and he’s a great coach and would love nothing more for it all to walk out but obvs isn’t all rosy. Wonder if the club has plans beyond Jose like it did beyond LVG?


5.) 18 Apr 2018 20:58:35
Or jusr search on google on the word toxic and use your logic to understand what a toxic fan would sound like.


6.) 18 Apr 2018 21:24:18
Singh, that's bit unfair. Are you telling me a few fans complaining made all the difference? That doesn't make sense, although if 02 says that's what caused it I'll believe him.

Or was it the majority of the fan base being very unhappy with performances?

The way "the toxics" are frequently referred to makes it sound like something more than just general dissatisfaction.

I've reviewed the posts from 2015/ 16 and 02 clearly explains the situation with lvg, Allegri, long term plan etc and that "the toxics" are ruining it and forcing the board to completely change their plans.

At no point is it explained exactly what that means.

Take arsenal as an example, look at the negativity Wenger gets. Is that the same thing? Were a large portion of our fans worse? Is it something more? If it's the same thing, the arsenal board haven't got rid of Wenger, so why did our board listen to a bunch of unhappy fans?

This is what I mean when I say it doesn't make sense and I don't understand it.


7.) 18 Apr 2018 23:07:35
None of us understand it, i think it’s best we just move on, the term ‘toxics’ is pretty offensive to be honest and hopefully it is aimed at other people we don’t know about rather than us on here. The debate below ended in some pretty nasty things being said that were uncalled for and really not needed, I’m hoping Danny Lancs still posts on here as he’s one of the best we have and has some very good points and debates.

What happened is in the past, we didn’t do the plan, we move on.


8.) 19 Apr 2018 10:25:21
Red D nothing personal. Just tried diffusing the situation. Forget about everything and move on.

Enjoy the sunny weather this week.


 

 

18 Apr 2018 17:02:20
Guys, can you try not to annoy 02 too much. He's the best source of info we have and we don't want to lose him again.

Onto the actual debate down there, I'm somewhat with a few of the posters who say they don't understand what happened.

What I do understand from 02, is this.

1. We have lvg.
2. We have a long term plan involving 1 more year of lvg and then Allegri.
3. Fans somehow mess up the clubs plans.
4. We fire lvg and get jose.

That much is clear from 02.

What I, and it would seem a lot of other people don't understand is point 3. What did the fans labeled as toxic do? And how.

RedD

{Ed002's Note - You don't need to worry about annoying me. It is clear it is pointless that explaining detail about the club is a complete waste of time here, providing any non-transfer related information is a waste of tiem and in all probability providing transfer inforation going forward might well be futile as well.}


1.) 18 Apr 2018 20:24:02
well done! probably surpressed any viable info from ed002 for the the upcoming window.

THE issue is, this was in the past and cannot be changed, what is important is the future.


2.) 18 Apr 2018 20:51:22
Really? You think that post from me has stopped 02 from posting anymore? Not the debate / argument below. But this post?

This is the banter page. Why on earth would discussing how our club has ended up where it is be a bad thing? It's not like I was rude or argumentative, I was trying to express a confusion that I think a lot of people feel. I'm not even trying to challenge anything anyone has said. Just clarifying what I don't understand and asking to be pointed to where it was previously explained.


3.) 18 Apr 2018 23:07:57
I agree with you Red, I don’t think asking for a reminder of what was written 2 yrs ago is too much of an ask really but there you go.
Also 2 yrs is a relatively long time so you’d hope a new contingency plan has been put in place not just ‘oh well the plan didn’t work so we will just fly by the seat of our pants now’ - the club must have an idea of what comes next, and it would be reassuring to get any insight as to what that may be.
For me Mou has given us improvement so I’d go another season to see what he can achieve. It’s sad to hear he’s unhappy etc in Manchester as I always thought the narrative was the Man U job was the one he always wanted and aspired to, I wonder when that changed.
Hopefully we can win the FA cup and finish second then kick on next season. A couple of signings will be important but Morris for me a solid pre season where we gel as a squad and settle on a style of play for next season.
Time will tell.
Also I’d love a cheeky enquirer Re Eriksen from spurs as I read he asked his agency to scope out bigger teams.


 

 

13 Mar 2018 23:27:52
Dam it, was trying to correct a typo and sent that too soon.

To continue, mourinho's comments after the match were insulting as well. Talking about how it's standard for utd to be knocked out the champions league and he's knocked us out himself.

He needs to take some responsibility for a poor team selection and poor tactics.

RedD

1.) 14 Mar 2018 00:19:39
He lost most of the fans tonight RedD with those tactics. And he lost the rest with those disgraceful comments after. No class and for me he has to go at the end of the season as no amount of money spent is going to change his style of play. We have some very good players but we need the right manager to get the best out of them.

{Ed0333's Note - he’s had no class most of his career I’m surprised your only recognizing it now mate


 

 

13 Mar 2018 23:24:39
Fellaini for mctominay was such a bad decision. Firstly, mctominay is playing well and in good form, secondly the wig has hardly played football for four months, and thirdly, what kind of football are we intending to play if we start with him in midfield? It says everything about how mourinho approached this game.

Then there 2 goal Rashford being moved from the left wing where he played great against Liverpool to be replaced by sanchez who is playing shite. Again, makes no sense, there was just no need to do that. Why not leave sanchez in the center and play rashford instead if jesse? Or even drop sanchez and play jesse in the center?

That was such a depressing rubbish show. I don't have anything positive to day about it, and mourinh'comments.

RedD

1.) 14 Mar 2018 01:44:54
Liverpool fan here in peace. Agree with you RedD, how Mctominay was dropped i have no idea. I thought he was a key reason you got the win on Saturday. I thought that after the weekend JM would have the confidence to step it up a bit and let your players do their thing. On paper, you are all over us in every area bar the forward line. I don't know which is more frustrating, Klopp's tactical naivety at times or Mou's tactical pragmatism.


2.) 14 Mar 2018 03:17:06
Agreed. If Jose is going to straight up putting a timebomb in the midfield 2 with Matic, then Jose can't complain when it explodes in his face. Honestly, couldn't figure out what Jose sees in Fellaini. Couldn't pass, couldn't dribble, clumsy.


 

 

01 Feb 2018 08:02:43
From football 365, really made me laugh:

"There is an urban myth that you are never more than six feet from a rat. It’s nonsense, of course, but there is an accurate football version of the claim: you are never more than 15 minutes away from Phil Jones doing something silly. "

RedD

1.) 01 Feb 2018 10:35:31
I'm sorry RedD. I think Jones has been pretty solid defensively throughout the season. Last night was a blip in his performance and I don't think this should affect his confidence, I think the only player who looked and still looks like a mistake to happen is Smalling.


2.) 01 Feb 2018 11:02:46
Phil Jones is woeful, Smalling woeful, Ashley Young woeful. Valencia isn't even a Right Back!


3.) 01 Feb 2018 13:52:04
FZZ,

Haha, you would have thought so from last nights live chat.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2018 13:27:12
That's what in thinking. But then again, he must know now that he's not really wanted, so a move is going to be needed to reignite his career.

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01 Jul 2016 19:30:05
Just listening to him talk in the interview, I see what people mean when they say people are winners. Even in conversation it's all he focuses on. Definitely going to be a positive force in the dressing room.

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01 Jul 2016 16:45:38
I'm not trying to piss people off. But I'm curious how unusual it is for a player to move to a club that isn't his first choice.

In the real world lots of us work for companies that don't even reach our top 100 first choices.

I suppose if di Maria is anything to go off, it typically ends badly when you're a highly paid elite footballer.

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01 Jul 2016 16:20:11
Let be put it anither way Ed.

Previously you said this :


{Ed002's Note - The deal is simple - if MU pay way more than one would expect for the player and way, way, way, over the odds in fees, they might be able to sign a player who wants to move to Real Madrid. }

Given that comment and the fact we may now sign him, I'm asking 2 things.

1. Is this a case of utd paying way over the odds compared to what other clubs are prepared to pay?

2. How unusual is it for a big player to not get his first choice club, and how much of a problem would you expect that to cause when playing for his 2nd / 3rd etc choice club?

RedD

{Ed002's Note - The situation is as I explained. And it changes nothing in terms of what I said.}


 

 

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01 Jul 2016 15:59:40
Ed002, 2hats your thoughts on it? Is this a case of utd being stupid enough to pay more than anyone else, as you've previously suggested, or do you think this has the potential to be a good deal?

I may be being a but stupid, as you've said he doesn't want to come here and that RM is his preference, but I don't know how common it is for a big name player to not go straight to his preferred choice and as such the potential trouble it can cause.

RedD

{Ed002's Note - I don't understand your post at all. I have explained that after a meeting on Tuesday it may be clearer in terms of what will be happening. I have no idea what you are prattling on about nor what you find confusing from my very short and very simple comment.}


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2018 21:24:18
Singh, that's bit unfair. Are you telling me a few fans complaining made all the difference? That doesn't make sense, although if 02 says that's what caused it I'll believe him.

Or was it the majority of the fan base being very unhappy with performances?

The way "the toxics" are frequently referred to makes it sound like something more than just general dissatisfaction.

I've reviewed the posts from 2015/ 16 and 02 clearly explains the situation with lvg, Allegri, long term plan etc and that "the toxics" are ruining it and forcing the board to completely change their plans.

At no point is it explained exactly what that means.

Take arsenal as an example, look at the negativity Wenger gets. Is that the same thing? Were a large portion of our fans worse? Is it something more? If it's the same thing, the arsenal board haven't got rid of Wenger, so why did our board listen to a bunch of unhappy fans?

This is what I mean when I say it doesn't make sense and I don't understand it.

RedD

 

 

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18 Apr 2018 20:51:22
Really? You think that post from me has stopped 02 from posting anymore? Not the debate / argument below. But this post?

This is the banter page. Why on earth would discussing how our club has ended up where it is be a bad thing? It's not like I was rude or argumentative, I was trying to express a confusion that I think a lot of people feel. I'm not even trying to challenge anything anyone has said. Just clarifying what I don't understand and asking to be pointed to where it was previously explained.

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14 Mar 2018 18:09:51
I would probably be leaning towards the calm, give him another season, side of this debate. But those post match comments were more offensive than the pathetic effort shown on the pitch. If he'd had come out angry, complaining, shouting or even upset, I'd have written the whole experience off, said he needs time, and not been left so angry.

I'm genuinely astonished that he'd come out with those comments and surprised I haven't seen more shock in the media.

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14 Mar 2018 09:36:05
I think de gea has a bank of credit with us so large that he can score own goals at will and still come out standing tall.

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14 Mar 2018 08:00:29
Those comments annoyed me more than the loss. He basically said: yeah we lost, but we're losers and we've been losers before so it's nothing new, you were losers when I played against you and you're still losers now.

Note how it shows a disconnect between him and the team, it becomes a them and not an us. Those comments were disgraceful and he should receive disciplinary action.

RedD