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21 Jun 2018 12:31:54
Ronaldo for United?

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21 Jun 2018 16:39:10
Now there's an original thought. Can't understand why it has not cropped up before.
Seriously, my heart says yes my head says no. We need long term solutions not stop gaps however good. We could buy two or three for what he would cost.
If here really wanted to be back here, he would have come before now.
I would not want the club to support his pension pot during his years of decline which must inevitably come.
I also feel he has played us along for a good number of years for his own financial gain. He has made his bed, now is the time to lie on it.
Thanks Christiano for all you contributed to the club, but that past.

22 Jun 2018 14:27:06
Decline? Have you not been watching him at the world cup?

22 Jun 2018 17:30:53
Decline isn't what I've seen mate. he's a beast and without doubt IMO the wrlds best player still!

But i agree, think he would have been back b4 now if he wanted it.

22 Jun 2018 20:12:49
I was referring to future decline. It is inevitable. More and more as the anno domini catch up. Ronaldo will not avoid it however hard he tries.

23 Jun 2018 08:00:40
Future decline is inevitable for everyone. But from what I've seen so far, Ronaldo looks as though he will avoid that drop for a good few years yet.

20 Jun 2018 21:23:26
I like the litlle Mexican Erick Gutierrez! He played really well and was full of confidence. I can't wait to see him playing again. I would definitely sign him up would you?

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21 Jun 2018 08:34:09
Can't really make a decision on that after seeing him in just one game. I'll look out for him in Mexico's other games.

21 Jun 2018 10:45:13
Lots of teams have made mistakes buying players who had one good game in a world cup, I would prefer us to stick to our plan and go for players we have been scouting over a long period of time to make sure we get the correct players.

21 Jun 2018 13:37:27
Agreed GDS but they have to be first noticed somehow. Nothing wrong with players getting on the radar because of a good world cup but deciding whether to sign them or not after a good game or two would be daft.

Highlighting on this website players who've caught the eye is a good thing and maybe more of us should do it more often.

21 Jun 2018 14:05:43
To be fair the players we've signed after good performances in a tournament haven't worked out too well. I'm thinking Kleberson and Poborsky. Liverpool were equally culpable in buying diouf and the other Senegal players in 2002. Happy to sign good players but I think a world cup or euros etc. should serve to confirm the scouts opinions.

21 Jun 2018 14:26:57
I agree as well, International Football is no place to scout or make decisions - situation is completely different to club football. Plus could be up against a glorified bus driver.

21 Jun 2018 17:06:34
Bus driver Beast? At least he might park it better than we have managed in the last couple of seasons (I really hope not)
Seriously though, I also believe that Internationals, especially the WC, are a completely artificial arena to be judging players for the Premiership.
Totally different game.

21 Jun 2018 18:30:14
Agree with all that so let's see how he performs later on. Will be one to keep an eye on for sure.

19 Jun 2018 21:32:09
Don't really know which page to ask this question but do any of the eds know where interest in jack wilshere lies?

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19 Jun 2018 23:32:00
Southampton apparantly.

20 Jun 2018 13:08:35
He could do a great job for a top 10 side playing every week or as I mentioned Italy or Spain would be perfect for him. Personally I’d take him on a free as a squad player.

20 Jun 2018 20:39:23
I like him. I know a lot think he is very over rated but i think he has a lot to offer. He has had injuries and according to a couple of the eds leads a poor lifestyle so on balance i doubt he will be considered.

20 Jun 2018 20:49:03
If Jose gave him a boot up the back side and he knuckles down i would offer him a year as a squad player! His vast experience could only benefit us. It is not that long ago The Brand ( Cleverly ) and Jack made their starts and Arsenal got one over us as Tom lost his focus and Jack stormed ahead.

Also he could link up well with Alexis Sanchez and would give more going forward

Just my opinion and not everyone will see eye to eye.

21 Jun 2018 02:32:30
Jack played a few years below me at the Stevange set up that was shared by Luton. Well known he makes some questionable choices for an athlete.

21 Jun 2018 09:52:02
I'd love him to sign. I do get why people are against it, but ultimately we have no idea what most players do off the field. Certain ones are a bit stupid with the negative attention they attract like Jack, but that doesn't mean other's aren't doing the same or worse - he normally stands out for the positive when I see him play.

We are playing players to be the best on the field and that is all we as outsiders should be judging on as we don't have a full picture. People go on about fitness levels, but same can apply to many players - we would mostly all sign Bale if available on a free, Cantona had big issues when we signed him, I'd personally sign Vidal who is injury prone as well. We have big squads and players on a free like Wilshere don't come about too often - he is a game changer and most importantly for me plays the game the way I like to see the game being played.

{Ed001's Note - have you ever actually watched him play? What positives is there from a guy with such poor close control he gets himself injured regularly by overstretching to keep the ball? Perhaps that he is so often injured everyone forgets how crap he is?}

21 Jun 2018 10:43:51
Watched him many times Ed are you confusing him with Henderson? He was running the show against Athletico most recently until hooked. Obviously injury concerns and he is a bit "Phil Jones" with his reckless endangerment of himself, but I'd much rather have him in my team than Herrera, Fellaini, McTominay and frankly if you put the past 40 games of Pogba and Wilshere next to each other I bet Wilshere would have a better overall performance level. I wouldn't let the negative media-perception cloud what he actually does with the ball. He is a real talent that could be fantastic, not many midfielders available like him.

He passes forward (we are side-side or hoof), he looks for the dangerous pass as well (we are too safe), he is passionate (we lack passion), he is English (helps), he knows the league (minimal bedding in) . Frankly the only risk is his injury record and at times he can be a bit lax, but the same thing has been said of many players - Vidal is a perfect example where we let that go and took Schweinsteiger instead! For free it's an absolute no brainer and I bet we could negotiate a good pay-play deal.

Judge him against the current crop of Utd midfielders and crap is not a word I'd use to describe him, but each to their own.

21 Jun 2018 10:46:19
Beast,

When was the last game he changed?

21 Jun 2018 11:42:55
Who are we talking about GDS2 - Herrera, McTominay, Matic, Mata, Sanchez, Henderson or Wilshere - I am getting confused?

I know one of these players is available for free and relatively low wages and has shown many, many times that they have the technical requirements to be world class. There are far riskier options out there despite the injury history of Wilshere. We are about to spend £50m+ on a player most of us have not seen play, doubt the scouts have been spending too much time in Ukraine in recent times - and what has our scouting track record been like in recent years? I'm not negging on Fred as I have no clue how he will do (like 99% of people), but I don't understand the negativity towards a potential deal for Wilshere who I appreciate is far from perfect, but has assets in his locker we badly lack and allows money to be spent on very key areas we need to strengthen like fullbacks, CB and RW and another CM!

21 Jun 2018 14:09:02
Beast, you would rather have Wilshire in the team than Herrera?

WOW! Just WOW!

21 Jun 2018 14:14:17
Beast,

Very good answer with a lot of information that I already knew, but you didn't answer the question I asked, are you a politician?

If you genuinely think United have signed Fred after not having any scouts in the Ukraine then I would imagine you are wrong.

21 Jun 2018 14:23:12
Loved Herrera, but gone backwards. Always looking for the safe pass, lost all his confidence and shadow of the player he was. We have too many players (midfielders especially) that are far too cautious. He also gives the ball away a lot which is strange as he rarely plays a pass more than 20 yards nowadays.

21 Jun 2018 14:42:48
I rate Wilshere higher than an unknown, simply as I know what he is capable of. That's all really, I think he would add a lot to what we miss in our midfield for a relatively nominal risk. I have absolutely no faith in our ability to scout or pay a 'fair' price for players, especially ones in dodgy leagues where we will not be sending our 'top' boys to scout either (not that our top boys have been up to much in recent memory) .

We have no track record at getting this right. I hope he turns out to be a Fernandinho rather than a Kleberson, but I assume like you, it's finger in the air stuff.

I said Wilshere controlled the Athletico game before he was subbed. When was the last game that any of the players I mentioned 'dominated'?

{Ed001's Note - Wilshere controlled a game? I can't believe the nonsense I am reading about a crap player.}

22 Jun 2018 11:35:36
Ha totally agree Ed001, so overrated, can’t control a ball, a vert for West Ham methinks.

{Ed001's Note - Beast is too busy trying to be a dick with his comments about Henderson clearly showing he is just wasting everyone's time on this thread through ignorance. I am done with wasting my time with this stupidity. Beast has just turned into an embarrassing troll who seems to just want to say the opposite to everyone else to cause an argument without actually stating anything of worth.}

17 Jun 2018 12:12:03
Wiltshire on a free anyone? 😂.

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17 Jun 2018 13:49:33
Not in a million years. He is more fragile than Jones and Bailly.

17 Jun 2018 15:25:23
Who is this Wiltshire? Although speaking of players on a free I certainly wouldn't take wilshere from arsenal ;)

{Ed004's Note - If he hadn't both physical and mental issues he would have been a cracking player. Unfortunately, I don't see him every fulfilling his talent so I'd pass on signing him}

17 Jun 2018 17:20:10
Was a very Good and promising player but not anymore. He needs to go abroad in my opinion to rebuild his his career to Spain or Italy.

17 Jun 2018 19:56:16
In an instant for me. A new club could be what he needs, why not risk it, won't be mental wages especially if we are losing a few midfielders. Knows the league, English, different class when given a run of games, plays it forward, committed when on field, clever player. Injury worry of course, but there is a negotiation to be had - big money if fit to play, dole office if not fit! If plays X amount of games then contract is revised the following year. Easy Peasy.

If he chooses mid-table teams for fixed wages then we swerve a bullet, but if he backs himself - could be a fabulous arrangement.

17 Jun 2018 21:13:19
Not a chance. Incredibly overrated. Always had a sloppy touch and can't hack it.

17 Jun 2018 21:23:12
Wouldn’t go near him if they was paying us.

{Ed025's Note - how about on a free and a pay as you play contract?..

18 Jun 2018 10:01:01
Let me get this right Beast, you want Wilshere but Ronaldo is a definite no? Amazing.

18 Jun 2018 16:58:44
The county? Yes, could always do with expanding my portfolio. The player? No chance. I've met retired stuntmen with a shorter injury list.

18 Jun 2018 21:05:14
GDS2 - twister you are mate, is Ronaldo available on a free and prepared to sign a contract pay as you play? If so then I'd prefer Ronaldo, we are talking about a free Wilshere in a position we lack in.

19 Jun 2018 08:44:54
Free Wilshere, he could be paying to play and i still wouldn't have him.

I'd give him 2 weeks beast and you'd be slating him.

19 Jun 2018 11:07:10
On another note, is his name that difficult to spell? This attempt isn't even close.

18 Jun 2018 11:21:37
Not for me Ed, one of the most overrated players in world football, it’s only because he’s English he gets a mention, he can’t control a ball, is why he is always getting injured overreaching etc. Bournemouth didn’t play him every week so I think that tells us all we need to know.

16 Jun 2018 06:59:23
In regards to Ronaldo returning-this is a bit of a left-field comparison but i think it applies, when rugby world cup winner johnny wilkinson played for newcastle he spent most of his contract injured and frustrated, aa a last chance saloon effort he signed for a french team (in the south of france i think) and as a result had another 3 seasons under his belt not injured half as much at all, why this comparison with Ronaldo-simples, the warm climate helped with injuries, revorery time was a lot less and endurance wise, the body can cope better in a warm climate, so yes Ronaldo is still a major force, but in the prem., where its still mostly high tempo, he'd donald ducked after half a season, i'm sure defenders would give him a welcoming boot up in the air as a greeting, and needless to say, there'd be betting pool for who'd sniper him (you know how caring defenders are! ), also he's been spoilt at los blancos, voicing his opinions to management and being involved, would jose want that on his hands, and also the financial package, i don't think the cost benefit would equate favourably, and at madrid, he has a small army of doctors, physios etc who are there for him 24/ 7,can you see others in the squad not being envious at all at what having him back at united would entail? bearing in mind madrid seem to be after a keeper and midfield players, i wouldn't be surprised if yet again, Ronaldo uses the club to get yet another improved contract out of the spanish drama monkeys!

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16 Jun 2018 19:05:33
I agree to a pojny BUT

Honestly, even with half a season, he would be hitting 20 goals for us.

15 Jun 2018 19:48:59
Come on Portugal Roooooonaldooooo.
Ddg not looking great these days as i keep saying. Honestly, i have never thought he's as good as people make out. He's not even a good shot stopper any more, sell him to Madrid for £100m and get Oblak in. A much better gk. 👍👍.

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16 Jun 2018 00:17:48
Fishing?

16 Jun 2018 08:41:01
😂 yep as you keep saying, dreadful.

16 Jun 2018 09:09:11
Just getting his mistakes out now before the Prem, hopefully.

16 Jun 2018 18:36:12
I’m guessing drunk.

16 Jun 2018 19:06:04
Pissed up?

13 Jun 2018 00:55:32
That's why I said the manager an the club! and I didn't say we have infinite money just that we need to sign the world class players it's clear we have enough money for atleast 3 top players so why not sign Fred Toby and another top class player!

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12 Jun 2018 21:44:21
Is it just me or does anyone else feel this Griezmann nonsense is a bit self indulgent. He's called a press conference just to say he has decided his future but won't reveal where he'll be playing. Atletico fans should be raging. He basically did the same last summer until they got the transfer embargo.
Concentrate on the World Cup mate.

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12 Jun 2018 16:36:45
Can't say that I'm thrilled that Madrid's new manager will be spending the next few weeks working closely with De Gea. I've got a bad feeling about this.

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12 Jun 2018 17:44:54
Just a feeling, but i think they'll get Courtois or Allisson.

12 Jun 2018 19:29:17
Ddg not for sale.

12 Jun 2018 21:48:33
I read somewhere today that all betting is leaning toward Pickford moving to United his summer. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we sold De Gea to Madrid and we had one of their players in return.

{Ed025's Note - pickford is going nowhere 2toms..

12 Jun 2018 22:10:30
If De Gea does leave only Oblak or Allisson would be worthy replacements, not Pickford (no offence Ed025 lol) and yeh 2toms, Varane Kroos and Bale in return would be 'sufficient'

{Ed025's Note - none taken mate..i agree..

13 Jun 2018 14:47:59
No need to worry anymore mate, his head has rolled!

When you watch farces enfold like what has just happened with Spain/ Madrid, I really believe we all give this thing 10X more respect than it deserves - clueless idiots everywhere at the top of the game it seems.

14 Jun 2018 13:36:25
Clueless idiots at the top of most things Beast.

10 Jun 2018 23:53:31
Its not fifa but if i was Jose and i wanted TOBY

I would offer 30 million plus Smalling and i would Loan Martial to them for the year

Great deal all round in my opinion as we clear of Smalling and get Martial playing week in week out and get to see what he is all about.

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11 Jun 2018 15:05:44
I’m glad for one it’s not FIFA. Terrible deal. Toby for cash only.

11 Jun 2018 15:34:48
Are you talking about Panini stickers?

12 Jun 2018 17:11:15
It's ridiculous if it was the other way round and we wanted martial from spurs people would be talking £150 mil fee yet we should loan him out, give £30 mil and another player for a 29 year old cb who has suffered from injuries lately?

Blimey I have seen it all now .

17 Jun 2018 14:15:51
Its not your money blimey ye swear it was.

Have you been asleep deano? This post was when we were actually intrested in TA.

With the current inflation in the Transfer Market you would be lucky to get a championship defender for €30m plus i doubt you have studied any of the transfers where UTD have had to deal with Levy

Anyway not going to stoop and be toxic you can have your opinion as i will have mine.

 


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