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25 Apr 2018 22:33:52
Hi Eds

I just wondered if you could give us your opinion on how you think Ed Woodward is doing in his job? Everyone was very quick to blame managers like moyes and LVG and I wonder if woodward made any big mistakes? Losing David gill seemed like a big blow at the same time as sir Alex.

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{Ed002's Note - Given he doesn't pick the players or the team and his efforts are based around negotiation, there is no obvious measure other than what the club has been paying for players.}

26 Apr 2018 14:50:47
Ed is there a case at united where Woodward or the board reject a certain player if they don’t feel like that is who should be signed? (Perisic springs to mind) .

Or does Jose or whoever is manager have almost full control and presents his targets to Woodward? Or is there more of a compromise relationship?

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{Ed002's Note - They have to all work together and Mourinho does not have full control.}

26 Apr 2018 11:39:25
This season had it's lows but we certainly have improved a lot (though I'm still pissed off at the way we crashed out of CL) . But I can only wonder if we had proper full backs we would have been 1 step above our current level.
Valencia and young have been great for our club for years but haven't really offered much offensively this season. Valencia just can't cross and having a left footed LB is much more preferable than young as he would provide more support to the winger ahead of him.
Does anyone know of fullbacks we're linked with for the next season. Media has linked everyone with us but is there any solid interest in any particular players?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, lots. Read the posts.}

26 Apr 2018 13:31:20
Found your list of potential targets. Thanks Ed.

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26 Apr 2018 13:57:17
Sailor, I feel our squad is missing two elements to be complete.

The first is better more consistent full backs. Players who are solid defensively but offer an extra offensive dimension when teams sit deep.

The second is we struggle to control games against to top teams. We've had a mixed bag of results against the other top 6 contenders. We lack a player who can sit in the middle and control the tempo of the game, speeding it up when we need a goal or slowing it down when we need to take the sting out of the game.

If we can solve both issues for next season I expect a strong title challenge.

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26 Apr 2018 14:07:06
Hi Ed I know ...................

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{Ed002's Note - Stop asking about random players you seemingly have the hots for. This is the Manchester United page.}

26 Apr 2018 14:21:44
We need proper center backs too. Someone who can play football. Not just act like a rock and panic under pressure. We are going to be in same position if we have Jones or Smalling in the center unless Bailly stays injury free or Lindelof fixes up we desperately need upgrades on center backs.

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26 Apr 2018 17:23:26
The biggest weakness has been the central midfield area. Apart from Matic that part of the pitch is empty. In my opinion Pogba cannot play there and Herrera is not good enough. We need at least 2 for next season and also 2 full backs, I think Danny rose is nailed on and Luke Shaw will go in the opposite direction.

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26 Apr 2018 17:38:37
Singh, I don't think we NEED a new centre back. If a world class option becomes available such as Alderweireld for example then we should explore it as an option. However, for me a new CB is a long way down the list for three reasons.

Firstly, I am a big fan of Tuanzebe and feel he should start to have a role in the team on a regular basis.

Secondly, we have 5 first CB's in Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo, Jones and Smalling. Plus the aforementioned Tuanzebe along with players such as Blind and TFM who can cover there. Meaning we have 8 players for two positions. We will need to shift quite a few of them before we need to bring someone else in.

And finally, and probably the most relevant point. There are very few great CB's around atm. So spending a king's ransom ona player probably only marginally better than what we have, and in a position where teamwork, understanding and communication are as important as ability I see little to be gained from spending such a huge sum.

I've mentioned Alderweireld, but beyond him we are looking at players either past their best (Godin), not good enough/ overrated (Hummels) or young talent that might be good enough but they are still learning such as Upamecano. In which case I would rather give Tuanzebe a chance.

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Review Of The Day 26th April 2018

26 Apr 2018 07:30:04
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 26th April 2018

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25 Apr 2018 20:26:00
Are the Madrid players not allowed to get a yellow card? Get away with foul after foul, dreadful.

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25 Apr 2018 15:26:52
So, played for united when he was younger, didn't work out so went back to his original club., now older with a family and a more settled player who believes in his ability and plays weekly, interest from other prem. clubs for him this summer, he's quoted as saying he'd be open to a return to united, so-would you give wilfred zaha the opportunity to return?

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25 Apr 2018 15:31:26
Not good enough.

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25 Apr 2018 15:34:40
No. Would you?

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25 Apr 2018 15:47:16
I heard he could go to West Ham for some unfinished business 🤭.

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25 Apr 2018 17:20:02
I wouldn't be against it for the right price.

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25 Apr 2018 21:01:19
would rather try unsettle Mo Salah.

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25 Apr 2018 22:40:19
No thanks.

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25 Apr 2018 23:24:45
I always liked him and he brings something our other forwards don't but if it's at the expense of martial or rashford it's a No, if it's a replacement then yes.

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26 Apr 2018 12:52:01
Never really got a fair crack of the whip but he just did an interview saying it was his fault. Far enough to the lad shows he’s matured and taken accountability. I like him he is always a threat and is very direct. Wins a lot of penalties but he does dive a lot. Not sure if he is better than we have got. But city seem to be interested in him so says a lot I think about his talents.

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26 Apr 2018 15:50:47
Memhpis maybe, Zaha no.

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25 Apr 2018 14:32:18
Anyone heard more about the rumour of Bale to Bayern I could see why he would go there.

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25 Apr 2018 15:26:48

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25 Apr 2018 17:20:21
Fantastic medical facilities there.

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25 Apr 2018 22:28:49
Love yr humour guys.

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25 Apr 2018 10:33:19
Salah left a jose mourinho team aged 22.

De bruyne left a jose mourinho team aged 22.

Martial is most likely going to leave a jose mourinho team aged 22.

Will martial go on and do wonders like the aforementioned two players at another club?

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25 Apr 2018 11:15:26
I don't really care if Martial leaves, just like Chelsea fans won't have cared De Bryune and Salah left when they did.

Lets go through the 3.

De Bryune didn't want to work and put the effort in, **sound familiar? So was allowed to leave. (Jose didn't sell him the club did)

Salah, only bought him so Liverpool didn't (my opinion) . Did Jose buy him? Doubt it, I imagine he was a club buy. Also never really pulled up trees in his early Chelsea career, did he?

**Martial (similar to De Bruyne) at a young age can't be bothered to work that extra bit for the manager, may go on to be world class in a side that ships 4 but maybe scores 5 because he doesn't want to work back.

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25 Apr 2018 11:40:15
I agree with FZZ. The press narrative is incorrect that Jose was at fault for Salah and De Bruyne leaving and that it is coming back to haunt him that they are playing at a world class level. Ed hasn’t mentioned that there was more to than that.

De Bruyne always had the talent but seemed like he needed to move and play regularly to realise his potential. As FZZ said, it’s chelsea’s Fault in deciding to sell not Jose. I would even go as far as saying that with the turnover of chelsea’s Managers, the board are the ones that control most of the ins or outs. Please correct if I am totally off the mark ed.

In regard to Salah, nobody could have predicted he would be this good this year. He has been a joy to watch and is up there with the best, if not the best player on the world. He clearly needed the move away from Chelsea to develop and its simply a match made in heaven with Klopp. I guarantee Chelsea fans weren’t too bothered to see him go and even the most ardent of Liverpool fans were not expecting him to be this good. But hats off to him and Klopp he has been a revelation.

Onto martial - yes very talented and may come back to bite us. But he has had plenty of opportunities and although his stats are very good this season, he clearly isn’t showing the drive and desire the manager expects. If a player isn’t showing that then the manager cannot pick him. Jose can ask rashford, Sanchez, Lukaku and Lingard all to go out and bust a gut and do certain things. But I have yet to see martial do that. At the end of the day Jose needs the type of players to play his system and way effectively. Whether we like his style or not if he has the right personnel then his teams are often there or there abouts at the end of the season. If martial doesn’t fit then he has to go for someone that will do the job. We have the back the manager. Personally I think a loan is best for martial and he is a player I like a lot but it’s about the team at the end of the day.

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25 Apr 2018 12:15:02
Park 👍.

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25 Apr 2018 12:15:28
If real Jose sold them as some believes, but we have told did not, then needs credit because they needed to leave and develop further by playing regularly.

They made the right move for their carrier.

Hates aside they couldn't have played regularly considering the squad Chelsea had.

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25 Apr 2018 12:32:26
Latest press reports state that Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG and Juventus are all interested in signing the totally useless, never going to be world class Anthony Martial. Obviously, clearly he has many big name admirers who think he is worth buying.

As for Mourinho's mistakes with Salah and De Bruyne, neither of them were playing under him at Chelsea, so neither really had a chance.

However, Martial has been given games at United all be it limited in number and regularly substituted when he has played. Despite the limited number of minutes and clear mistrust from the manager he has managed to be our second highest scorer this year.

Just imagine what he would achieve if the managed backed him and played him regularly we might have had two players with 20+ goals, he'll we might have even challenged City for the title with an extra 10 goals or so.

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25 Apr 2018 12:48:39
Good post that Kenedy. You got to look at both sides. If a player is unhappy and wants to move elsewhere for his development then we should wish him the best of luck and move on.

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25 Apr 2018 12:49:31
If martial is sulking and not trying etc like is stated above why has he been offered a new contract?

Kdb didn't want to work?

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25 Apr 2018 12:59:15
It’s not that clear cut, KDB had some attitude issues and expected first team football, whereas Salah was behind Hazard and Willian. However, it is quite clear that Jose prefers older players who are less likely to make mistakes. If we look at the ‘first choice’ team for big games in recent weeks, Lukaku is the youngest player, and he’ll be 25 next month. It’s not that Jose doesn’t play younger players, it’s more that he doesn’t trust them in the biggest games.

Personally I don’t think Jose likes to build for the future, and the young players he sold like KDB, Salah, and even Lukaku, are sacrifices he is willing to make in the name of short term success.

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25 Apr 2018 12:21:33
Don’t believe everything you read.

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25 Apr 2018 13:20:26
Is martial our 2nd top scorer this season?

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25 Apr 2018 13:38:02
I think Martial wants to play regularly, The club wants him to stay and offered him new contract, refused it and wants out, what would the club do? Let him go that's only the way.
He is talented no doubt but doesn't see future at Utd.

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25 Apr 2018 14:35:33
This is the reason why we are miles behind City . With players like Martial being our second top scorer. Smalling, Jones and Young in defence.

Even Matic doesn't click it for he looks a tad slow and is getting on.

Unless we improve on these positions ww are still going to be second or even worse next year.

City is looking at some good players such as Dybala and Isco and if they get those two along with Jorginho we are going to need massive upgrades unless you guys are happy to wait for the players mentioned to suddenly turn their careers upside down or be happy with City winning the title next year.

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25 Apr 2018 15:24:24
The same Dybala who has had a poor second half to this season, and let his club down in the CL quarter final? Grass greener, etc.

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25 Apr 2018 16:51:34
That’s a really good post Danny agree with all of that. Good to have you posting again!

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25 Apr 2018 17:54:54
Unless they change the rules so City can field 18 players every game, and keep the rest of their stars happy who still can't get a game, I'd not be getting my knickers in a twist just yet about what and how many world stars they're going to buy this summer.

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25 Apr 2018 17:57:56
Dybala will be good in a attacking team. A team that has most of the possesion and loves to attack is completely different to playing for Juventus.

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25 Apr 2018 18:12:34
Silva, Fernandinho and yaya toure are going to be moving on so there will be space for a few players.

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25 Apr 2018 18:25:15
Silva is going to be moved on? One of their key players, and close to their best 5his season.

Fernandinho too, another key player for them.

Regardless, Dybala is completely inconsistent and would be in competition with B Silva, KDB, Sterling, and Sane for a place in the team. A player whose hype far outweighs his ability to produce.

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{Ed001's Note - Silva wants to go home to be with his young child who has been seriously ill. They will badly miss him as he is the key to their team.}

25 Apr 2018 18:38:58
KDB and lukaku, it's been well documented why they left Chelsea by ed002. That want down to Jose, so that argument to me is null and void.

Jose clearly likes players who work very hard for the team, plenty of times I've seen martial walk around, so there is an issue with that side of his game. No doubt he is a very good player could potentially be much better but Jose likes what Jose likes and it has worked, clearly, with the amount of trophies he has to his name.

Martial is not the 2nd highest scorer, I think that's lingard, and that's a player, who has the attitude and work ethic, that every united forward should aspire to have.

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25 Apr 2018 18:42:56
According to BBC

Lingard and Rashford both have more goals than Martial.

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25 Apr 2018 18:43:23
I didn’t realise that Ed. Been one of the best players here over the last decade, City will struggle without him.

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{Ed001's Note - I think so too. He will be a big loss to the Prem as a whole as he is magical to watch.}

25 Apr 2018 19:30:21
Amazing player Siva. i'm very sorry to hear that ed its been out of the press to a large degree obviously.
He seems like a really decent chap a bit like mata.
Maybe isco will replace him in the city team but I've said before one of the best in the prem for many years.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a shame but your kids come first at the end of the day.}

25 Apr 2018 19:32:49
Where would silva be looking to go ed?

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{Ed001's Note - home mate.}

25 Apr 2018 21:34:12
Yeah ed they always come first until the little fu####s get a place of their own😂😂.

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{Ed001's Note - they just get more expensive then mate.}

25 Apr 2018 22:19:21
Martial has 9 PL, 2 CL

Rashford 6 PL, 1 CL, 5 Cup

Lingard 8 PL, 4 Cup

Fairly balanced.

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26 Apr 2018 09:15:40
People keep forgetting that Mou did not sell Salah while at chelsea. Salah was on loan at Roma and when his deal was made permanent, Mourinho was Utd's coach.

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26 Apr 2018 09:40:22
I think Martial must be a complete thicko. He plays for a manager who requires a high work rate. He doesn't put in a shift. He doesn't get picked. I mean, wow. connect the dots Anthony!

To my mind, any player who gives less effort than Sanchez or Kante is not doing their job properly. Imagine how good Martial could be if he played with the intensity and desire of Sanchez. Imagine how good Pogba could be if he put in the same shift as Kante. (Sorry for using the P word) .

Lazy players are a scourge. They're unreliable and their poor attitude is infectious and causes resentment. There's a reason Salah has been so good and it's because he works really hard both on and off the ball and so he makes things happen because of it. Martial will never be that good because it takes effort and he can't be bothered.

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26 Apr 2018 10:41:52
Top post MancMan. Can’t argue with any of that. If he puts a shift in he will get picked it’s simple as that. He has all the talent in the world and imagine what sort of player he could become. It’s not difficult. He’s at a great club, under a very good manager and he has he opportunity to have regular football. So frustrating because all he needs to do is apply himself and put a shift in. Working hard should be the minimum requirement for any footballer. You are not going to get it served on a plate for you.

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26 Apr 2018 10:52:52
People on here want us to play with a high intensity and press like city and Liverpool do yet they want martial in the team, a guy that it seems like he hardly wants to do any of the defensive work to play in a system like that. Lingard, rashford and Sanchez all put in a massive shift defensively.

If we can get a decent price for martial and a replacement player that is equal or better than why not let him go?

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26 Apr 2018 15:04:55
Imagine if our attackers put in a massive shift in the last third .
Salah been amazing this season is everyone talking about his tracking back? Works hard but in the right areas .

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26 Apr 2018 16:33:25
If Liverpool can get to the ECL final with a midfield of Henderson, Milner and Can/ Wijnaldum, and only one half decent centre half, then there should really be no excuses for us.

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26 Apr 2018 17:00:51
Good post that you would think United needed 2 world Class players in every position to play well.

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Review Of The Day 25th April 2018

25 Apr 2018 08:14:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th April 2018

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25 Apr 2018 09:13:50
It's a bad thing when their fans are making the headlines ed.
Some boy from Ireland and his brother travelled over to watch the game and the one of them ends up in hospital, probably saving up for a while and excited to go over and watch their team play.

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{Ed001's Note - Roma? This is commonplace with them. I remember they were vicious in Rome towards Man Utd and Spurs fans in recent years. They were the same back in '84, which is why I never wanted Liverpool to get them.}

25 Apr 2018 10:09:05
Like ed says it's been going on for years Lazio are the same.

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{Ed001's Note - good point. They are goosestepping pricks to add to it those Lazio lot.}

25 Apr 2018 12:41:52
Aren't Roma and Lazio fans considered the worst for this sort of behaviour?

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{Ed001's Note - certainly amongst them.}

25 Apr 2018 17:23:52
Wasn't there an incident a few years back with Lazio where they threw a scooter from stands?

I think those two sets of fans are the worst in Italy.

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{Ed001's Note - correct there was.}

25 Apr 2018 18:39:57
Italian fans have a crazy streak in them.

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25 Apr 2018 20:24:59
Says a lot when you can get a scooter into the stands. Mind you can the same about Figo's pigs head.

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{Ed001's Note - that is different as a pig's head is not an unusual object for a Spaniard to carry around. It is a bit like having your shopping and lobbing a tin of beans on.}

25 Apr 2018 22:40:58
Would you take one to a football match?

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{Ed001's Note - personally no, but I am not Spanish and they are very different. Very different.}

24 Apr 2018 22:10:03
Whatever we think about liverpool winning the champions league. One thing I will say is them Roma fans are scum the carry on of some of them . I hope UEFA do something
No need for them in football.

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25 Apr 2018 12:42:49
Nothing will happen to them. Only the English are hooligans after all. 20k fine and a warning at most.

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25 Apr 2018 18:40:36
Man is fighting for his life in hospital, bet your bottom dollar they will be heavily punished.

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25 Apr 2018 23:13:14
they should be, but won't be, is my reason to hit the thumb down button angel, sad as that is.

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24 Apr 2018 22:05:35
At this moment In time salah is playing at Messi Ronaldo level .
Who would of liked to sign him in the summer.
Some times players just need a bit of time.

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{Ed0333's Note - I think the whole world would like to sign him atm.

24 Apr 2018 22:11:44
he is phenomenal at the moment. And he is a really likeable guy who is humble and seems a really nice person. If liverpool win he has to win the ballon d'or. it is a real possibility liverpool will win it. I do think he would not replicate this sort of form at any other team apart from football because of the way klopp's tactics are. he would do well at city but i don't think he would be as prolific.

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{Ed0333's Note - I think he’s that good a football player he’ll be great wherever he plays mate

24 Apr 2018 22:21:28
He is as good as anyone in the world at the moment .
Just shows you the benefit of getting a player playing to his potential.

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24 Apr 2018 23:28:34
Fair enough ed not doubting his ability, he’s up with the best at the moment. But I feel Klopp is the one that’s brought it out of him and he wouldn’t be this prolific if he were elsewhere. and fair play to him because Salah is unplayable this season. Until he came up against Ashley young 😂😂.

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{Ed0333's Note - lol. Yes Ashley Young and the other 54 players you put on him. I think Klopp deserves to take some of the credit for the players metirotic ascendency especially as he didn’t want him in the first place, but in the end Salah’s unadultared naked determination, steel, and unique skill set has to take the majority of the plaudits.

24 Apr 2018 23:47:24
Rivalry aside you can't deny Liverpool are playing some beautiful football and salah is an absolute joy to watch, had he been at Utd this summer there's no way he'd have replicated this form due to the way we play sadly. I say this with gritted teeth but I expect them to win the champions league.

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24 Apr 2018 23:48:35
Agree jred Klopp has his team playing out their skin. Especially the front 3. I feel majority of our players aren’t even playing 50% to their capacity. We have some very good attacking players. Don’t need to add any imo and Jose needs to be getting them playing to their potential. We will start blowing team away then.

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25 Apr 2018 06:38:24
Fair play to him, he's gone beyond the amount of goals Ronaldo scored when we last won the champions league. Who'd of thunk it.

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25 Apr 2018 09:01:03
Loll what potentiall. With potential you need a brain and some of them don't have it.

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25 Apr 2018 12:27:57
all the plaudits for salah are deserved on his record and style of play this season, but for all I don't like doggy dentured firmino it has to be said that he really has helped him along the way.

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25 Apr 2018 23:17:41
Well spotted cookyman, Salah gets all the plaudits but Firminio makes it all tick, most underrated player in the Prem.

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