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08 Aug 2017 20:46:54
Will that be the end of the Bale rumours?

Stand-United

1.) 08 Aug 2017 22:31:19
Does that actually change anything if they only wanted to sell him if they get Mbappe?
Would he have been playing if Ronaldo was fit?


2.) 09 Aug 2017 05:55:54
Hopefully.


3.) 09 Aug 2017 07:00:11
Would Isco not be available if Mbappe comes in AND Bale stays?


4.) 09 Aug 2017 07:25:48
Allen. Did u watch bale last night? You don't think he would be a big upgrade on anyone in our team then? He would be our best player and give us a whole new dimension.


5.) 09 Aug 2017 09:04:35
But if he doesn't want to come then its pointless chasing after him.


6.) 09 Aug 2017 10:07:53
Mort, exactly, hence the OP.


7.) 09 Aug 2017 10:30:01
dont clubs usually ask the agent if his player would be willing to join and I'd imagine if we got told he (bale) has no desire to join us then we just wouldn't pursue him so if we are interested like the eds have said we are then we must have been encouraged to carry on pursuing.

I've no idea if this makes any sense my heads a shed from just writing it 😀.


8.) 09 Aug 2017 11:03:37
I think i know what you mean dave :-)


9.) 09 Aug 2017 11:10:57
And bales agent has always said that his client is going nowhere. Wd bale improve our team. probably. but not at a cost of 90m.
Despite being 32 cr7 is valued 40m more than when we sold him in his prime. Bale despite being only 28 is valued the same as he was 4 years ago, this in an era when transfer fees are rocketing. Why has bales value not risen? 3 reasons imo. injury record, the loss of that extreme pace that made him so devastating previously and the fact that RM would happily cash in on him if he could be persuaded to leave so that they could buy mbappe.
Good player yes but not worth 90m or so with his injury record.
Would prefer isco all day long as I suspect RM will when la liga kicks off.


10.) 09 Aug 2017 11:56:55
I watched the game and he did very little can see why he might be available. He is no where as influential in that Madrid team as the other guys (modric, isco, kroos, Ronaldo, benzema) and for me influences the game very little. For 90 million I would rather spend it on 2 other players.

He does no defending and good in a counter attack sense where he has a lot of room to run into. Put Martial or Rashford into that real team and they would thrive as well if given the chance to run one on one at defenders.

I would not be surprised if Real come calling in a year or two for our guys.


11.) 09 Aug 2017 13:29:17
Watching us last night I wish we had signed Bernardo silva He can keep the ball, we are miles away, Lukaku did nothing to impress me or change my mind about him, didn't look mobile, or have a great touch.


12.) 09 Aug 2017 15:46:53
Still think we need a CM who can control the game Herrera for me isn't good enough he's a jack of all trades master of none. With matic at DM I would prefer a more technical player than Herrera I like him but to get to the next level we need a modric or silva type player who can unlock deep defences and keep Possesion in tight areas.


13.) 10 Aug 2017 09:26:00
Lukaku is all brain, he's reading of the game is just on another level :D.


 

 

14 Jul 2017 17:55:44
Matic missing Chelsea tour. Think it's imminent then.

Stand-United

1.) 14 Jul 2017 20:22:26
Juventus are supposedly interested too.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 13:52:20
All the best Wayne Rooney. We had 8-9 really good years from him. Hope he is successful back at Everton.

Stand-United

1.) 09 Jul 2017 13:58:13
well said stand-United.


2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:24:23
After Ronaldo left he practically carried us.


3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:42:06
lets just take a moment to remember that overhead kick against City.


4.) 09 Jul 2017 20:28:36
and the newcastle volley.


 

 

01 Jul 2017 10:30:18
I think we'll see a few signings in the coming week. We leave for pre season tour in roughly a week, id imagine Jose will want a few new faces involved.

Stand-United

1.) 01 Jul 2017 11:28:21
Think Matic could be agreed early next week when Chelsea sign Bakayoko, Hopefully Morata too.


 

 

27 Jun 2017 17:25:30
I think Pogba will be like a new signing this season. Last season he got a lot of unfair criticism from a lot on here. His first season in the premier league, time to adapt etc, all in all I think he did fairly well apart from the odd game. With a bit more quality and luck with his finishing he could have scored 20 last season. And with better finishing from the strikers he would have had tonnes of assists too. I think we have potentially one of if not the best midfielders in the world. He has everything to his game. If he improves and gains more consistency he will be huge for us.

Stand-United

1.) 27 Jun 2017 17:50:59
Stand - let's be honest, a lot of the criticism was very fair. Up until his brief spell out with an injury he was very poor for the most part, he had two or three good games but 95% of the time he was very poor. He came good towards the end of the season when he kept things simple, which is a promising sign.


2.) 27 Jun 2017 17:54:26
I agree stand. I think he did well enough last season. Bit of a difference too playing with pirlo etc compared to fellaini. once we get a bit more quality around him he will thrive.


3.) 27 Jun 2017 18:10:38
There's a youtube video of just Pogba hitting the post and crossbar last season. It's not a short video.


4.) 27 Jun 2017 18:51:14
He did pretty well last season. His stats were good and with a bit more luck from range he'd have scored more too and not hit the woodwork so much. There is plenty of room to improve as he is quality, but I disagree with anyone who said his season was poor overall.


5.) 27 Jun 2017 19:06:27
Sorry Wazza. He was far from very poor. Wow, sometimes I can't stand fellow United supporters even more than opposition fans. But you can definitely find work as a british tabloid "journalist" i'm sure.


6.) 27 Jun 2017 19:31:01
KG, no need to apologise for having an opinion. At one stage pretty much everyone on here was saying the only reason Pogba's not been dropped is because of his name. His injury came at a very convenient time when he should have been dropped, and a good end to the season has helped gloss over what otherwise was largely forgettable. He was underwhelming in at least 7 games out of 10. I'm sure next season will get better.

Ken that reasoning is a cop out. I'm sure I would also play better next to Pirlo than Fellaini. He's been brought in as the person to improve those around him. We best stick a world class player in every position if we want Pogba to play well 😴.


7.) 27 Jun 2017 19:48:52
Wazza its not a cop out at all. He was playing in a relatively slow tempo league with players that dominated possession and could keep the ball. He came from that scenario to a team that was under a new coach and to be frank a bit all over the place. He took time to adjust and imo did well and improved as the season went on. He was playing with a better class of player at juve and they made him look great at times and he made them look great at times also.
I think herrera benefited greatly by introducing a player of pogbas class having his best season alongside pogba and i think pogba benefited from herrera too. The season before herrera had to try and play with rooney or fellaini in midfield.


8.) 27 Jun 2017 20:00:53
Also wazza its not about signing world class players in every position. Most of the top teams have 4 or 5 world class players in their group arguably.
Bailly would not be described as world class but imo has the potential same with lindelof or morata.
We have 1 in ddg pogba is close to that bracket.
Fabhini could be the best rb in football i believe and is a very good midfielder.
Top class players and pros like herrera miki valencia are just as important
Remember we lost the brilliance of rooney rvp keane scholes giggs ronaldo over last 10 years and we replaced that quality with players that are not as good or bought players that just have not worked out for whatever reason.
Not everybody we buy has to be world cla but the must be i'd the required high standard. We have enough young olayers we need a few proven winners and players with know how and a big club mentality.


9.) 27 Jun 2017 20:01:54
I defended him all season I think you'll find. A bit like I did on here with DeGea when the world was attacking him after he joined and had a nervous start. Get behind the lad, we have a player who truly has the potential to reach the top, and all he gets is sh*t off our own fans.


10.) 27 Jun 2017 21:01:18
Ken my world class comment was very much sarcastic.


11.) 27 Jun 2017 21:27:26
"He did pretty well last season". For a world record fee I expect more than pretty well an pretty well is pushing it. He was at best, average.


12.) 27 Jun 2017 21:45:57
Was that his fault AJH? Did he set the price or pay it. Also who would live up to such a ridiculous price tag? Other than the 2 players we can all name.

Average my arse. Give it a rest. A young guy in his first PL season, he did fine and will only get better. Support the boy.


13.) 27 Jun 2017 21:30:18
Wazza, he's still a kid, playing in a new league, why were you expecting him to be top class every game? Price tag? He needs time to settle like everyone else. I thought he was very good in a lot of games, average in others. There's no doubt he has a higher ceiling than anyone else in our squad.


14.) 27 Jun 2017 21:33:35
Brendan, couldn't agree more. I was one that also backed de gea.


15.) 27 Jun 2017 21:57:44
I sit judge a player I on what they cost AJH. I judge them on what they win and how the work as part of a team. So imo i think he did pretty well we won the 2nd and 4th target comps. He will improve and so will the team when we add 4 or 5 players with more quality than the ones who have brought us to 5th 4th 5th and 6th for last few seasons. too mu h mediocrity surround the few higher class players we have have.


16.) 27 Jun 2017 23:25:45
AJH, he didn't set the figure. If we decided to pay £90m for ANY player right now does that mean he has to play to a world class level immediately? We've invested in Pogba. Commercially he will make us a fortune, and we should get 6-10 years of a truly world class player. That's how good I believe he will be. Give the lad a chance.


17.) 28 Jun 2017 00:12:54
For me if you pay top dollar for a player a midfielder then he needs to boss games control them, For that kind of money I would be expecting a scholes, lampard type player. he did ok average at best not good enough for me, the best I seen him play was a few weeks ago for France against England.
Now having said all that I will back him and say we should get a good season out of him this year.


18.) 28 Jun 2017 01:31:03
Pogba signed for Utd the second week of August at the end of which the PL season started . He played in the Euros final on the 10th of July . He had no pre-season done with the team .
Given he had no time pre-season he did ok . This season with the rest he's gotten there will be a an improvement and with that more consistency . So when judging a player all factors need to considered not just the price tag.


19.) 28 Jun 2017 03:42:53
Are you serious, pre season.
He is a professional footballer an athlete.


20.) 28 Jun 2017 06:50:52
we need to stop saying he was unlucky because he hit the post X amount of times if the ball goes 6 inchs one way and goes wide is he still unlucky? also if the ball goes 6inchs the other way and he scores would we be calling him lucky? . i'm a big pogba fan btw and the stick he gets is unfair i honestly think he's one of the best . i think he'd feel embarrashed people are making excuses about being unlucky for him.


21.) 28 Jun 2017 07:14:41
Let's put the fee aside then. He rarely dominated games and when we needed someone to take a game by the scruff of the neck he was found wanting. He has admitted himself he found his first season difficult

I like hm, I think he will come good and go on to be a really good, hopefully great player for us. I just think people see what they want to see, just because I think he was average last year doesn't mean I don't want him to do well, I'm just calling it as I saw it.


22.) 28 Jun 2017 07:59:15
Even if he was just average - I think he was better than that - and was only playing to 60% of his potential, think about what he might do this season now he's settled in (and will have Matic allowing him to get more forward)


23.) 28 Jun 2017 09:18:06
Spot on wallace.
Of course your calling it as you see it AJH. Do you think any united player had a good season last season? Who was above average?


24.) 28 Jun 2017 09:37:57
Ken, I think a lot of players had good spells. Stand out player was probably Herrera and obviously Ibra with his goals. Rashford showed promise but needs to continue to progress, Bailly looks a great signing, Miki had some good spells and will hopefully push on this coming season.

I like Darmian, he gets stick but he knows how to defend. Jones played well when fit, others like Fellaini, Lingard, Blind all had their moments (as did PP) . The biggest disappointment last year was Martial after his stunning first year. It seems to be a mental issue for him.

I'm generally optimistic but sometimes people see different things and stick to their view rigidly.

Wallace, I don't disagree, I think he will step up this year after settling in and hopefully having more quality around him.


25.) 28 Jun 2017 10:46:18
For some some players can do no wrong some can do no right .
On the money there ajh imo.


26.) 28 Jun 2017 11:20:50
There is definitely more to come from Pogba, and if I'm honest I was hoping he would perform better than he did.

But personally I think he was better than average, statistically he was one of the best performing midfielders in the league in many areas.

He in no way lived up to his transfer fee, but to expect him to is unfair imo. He didn't set it the club did.

I'd rate his season as a 7 out of 10, with the occasional 8 performance. Next year he should be a solid 8/ 10 every week with 9's and occasional 10 performances.


27.) 28 Jun 2017 13:15:53
As you know only too well jred everybody has their favoirites.


28.) 28 Jun 2017 13:16:28
How many 23 year olds boss games in there first season at a club and in the PL? Very very few. So if we take the fee out, his season was fine. I do expect more over the next season or two though. If this was the end of next season or the one after then I'd agree he hadn't done enough. After one season let's just give him a bit of time.


29.) 28 Jun 2017 13:24:08
good post shappy. Last year's league campaign was nothing short of dreadful i expect better this year if we can bring in some better players to compliment the best players we have.


30.) 28 Jun 2017 13:55:16
Pretty accurate there Shaps, I think 7/ 10 is pretty average but he did have his moments. I think we are all saying pretty much the same but from different angles. We expect more, and think we will get more.


31.) 28 Jun 2017 18:18:34
to be fair to pogba, having to deal with his father dying too must have weighed down on him too. footballers aren't immune to have to deal with real life issues. the last ewo games of the season he looked as if a great weight had been lifted off him. he will show all the doubters next season his class.


 

 

 

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21 Aug 2017 17:25:00
Out of curiosity ed002 would you say other than Zlatan our business is probably done for this window? Thanks.

Stand-United

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 21 Aug 2017 20:54:52
Wow ed, interesting seeing as we seemed to have passed up on perisic and miss out on aurier.

Thank God there's only a bit of time left!


2.) 21 Aug 2017 20:59:43
Hi ed002 i'm going to take one for the team here by asking what i guess most want to ask.
Would you like to elaborate at all on your response above to stand?
Do you know of any on going negotiations for a player.
I know you don't care for giving ongoing updates and that you have told us there where there is interest in your sharkopod but if you feel we are not finished for the window can you let us know which of those players if any we have acted on that interest and if talks aee still ongoing?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not giving blow by bl;ow updates but a left sided forward a la Perisic or Brandt or Damian Duff is still a possibility as is a centre back like Gallas, Garay or David Lopez.}


3.) 22 Aug 2017 08:12:12
Duff. Great a good player that should be able to keep up with ibra's pace nowadays. 😂.


 

 

21 Aug 2017 10:22:02
Step backwards if we resign Zlatan for me. I read somewhere he's a like for like replacement for Lukaku should he get injured. He's nothing like Lukaku. Zlatan drops deep constantly occupying the space that Miki and Pogba want to be in. Can't play off the shoulder stretching the defence as Lukaku can. Miki is one of our best players and will score and assist bucket loads if he keeps his place centrally. If he's shafted out wide to accomadate Zlatan I'll be livid. He scored plenty but was detrimental to the attack imo. Slowed everything down to much. Really see this as a stupid move.

Stand-United

1.) 21 Aug 2017 10:41:39
Stand it wouldn't be my first choice nor my second but I can why Jose may want him. That extra piece of experience might be what is needed to get this squad across the line. He offers a different option similar to Fellaini when the game plan must change.

As long as Zlatan is coming in to demand a first place berth I can see why it could be good business. Personally I still want to see either Rash or Martial through the middle throughout this season but again they are a more similar option to Lukaku than that of Ibrahimovic.


2.) 21 Aug 2017 10:47:26
Completely agree Stand, if he sits in the bench and is an impact sub then I kind of get it but I worry what it will do to the new approach we seem to have adopted. I really don't know why we would do this.


3.) 21 Aug 2017 10:49:21
Stand,

Zlatan stood up to be counted and scored big goals in big games, as long as he is happy not being first choice and has agreed to a significant wage cut then I see it as a very good move, lukaku can't play every game and you are never going to get a player as good and exactly the same style to fill in when he is rested or injured so someone who guarantees goals and who the other players like and respect works for me.


4.) 21 Aug 2017 11:09:28
Hit the nail on the head there gds2

We would be stupid not to take the option to 're sign him.

He's a big character in the dressing room and last season he proved he can handle English football.

We don't have many experienced players in our squad and he is one that would give martial and Rashford and even lukaku advise to make them better players.

If the rash and martial are being played out wide. It makes perfect sense to 're sign ibra as our back up striker.

If we want to be challenging on all fronts we need a big squad which can be rotated from time to time.


5.) 21 Aug 2017 11:21:32
Does anyone genuinly belive he will sit on the bench for the majority of games? I don't. Plus look how we have finished teams off in the last 15 minutes these last two games. When the opposition are tired we have counter attacked with the pace of rash/ martial, Miki and Lukaku. Zlatan won't be involved in any of that.


6.) 21 Aug 2017 11:28:11
I think he would be good to bring on for a goal if needed instead of someone like Fellaini. But yeh i'm not to sure Zlatan would stand for not starting.

Time will tell.


7.) 21 Aug 2017 11:40:51
If and only if he is to be an impact sub/ squad rotation option then it could be beneficial.

But up until he got injured last season he was the only player to play every minute of our season he was available for. So history suggests he will play more often than not. Which is the worry. We have played better not just this season but even in the last few games of last season with Zlatan out of the line up.

He did score important goals for us last season, he also missed several as well. He had the worst conversion rate amongst all of Europe's top goal scorers last season.

He was a vacuum for our chances. With no one even close to getting as many shots per game as Zlatan last season. He averaged just over 6 shots per game, Rashford who was out second highest average shooter managed less than 2.
Compare that to this season and in two games Lukaku has three goals, Pogba and Martial has 2 a piece and Bailly has even got in on the act. Four different goalscorers in two games.

With Zlatan in the team the team has to be set up entirely around him and if he is on form we will win. With Lukaku in the team instead and suddenly we look like a team with threats all over the field. A multifaceted team where marking one player out of the team only opens up space for someone else just as dangerous.

I think the team has evolved past the need for a Zlatan type player.

If he is to sign in to continue his rehab and offer experience in the changing room with maybe a few cameo appearances later in the season once he is fully recovered then great. But if he is coming in to be a key player then it is a backwards step.


8.) 21 Aug 2017 12:22:06
Does anyone really think Zlatan will be happy to be an impact sub?

Best case is he isn't a starter and throws a massive strop.

Worst case is that he is a starter and becomes a massive barrier to us progressing this season.


9.) 21 Aug 2017 12:34:51
Shappy and Danny, bang on the money. This will be a monumental mistake. He won't be happy playing ten mins here and there and when he's an the pitch the likes of Pogba etc do nothing but look for him and him only. He hinders the likes of Rashford and Miki . I just can't understand it.


10.) 21 Aug 2017 12:43:26
Perhaps we should trust that the manager knows what he is doing with this one and not slag it off before it has happened? There are a lot of 'ifs' I've noticed in all of you saying it's a dreadful move. For me having as many top players in the squad the better.

If he comes in, drops lukaku to the bench and we start drawing all of our home games then it's probably time to slag it off but it seems to me Jose knows what he is doing and I trust if he wants zlatan that he will use him right, perhaps in a similar role to how Rooney was used last season. That would suit me.


11.) 21 Aug 2017 13:13:00
I think Jose knows what he's doing here. Just because Ibra is slower than the rest, doesn't mean scoring off the break will stop. It means Ibra will get into the box later than the rest. When we need that goal and they have 11 parking the bus, Fellaini and Ibra on for Mata and Herrera. Two extra threats in the box.


12.) 21 Aug 2017 13:37:14
Over the last few years I'v felt a bit let down by our club in the way that some of our players left tbh. Warriors for us over the years like vidic Ferdinand evra (there is more) without a proper send off to show what they have meant to us and our club. stuff like the way bastian had appeared to be treated left our club appearing to lack the class and loyalty we've always had. My point in this thread is that I'm happy we've stood by zlatan with his injury when we really didn't have to, he was good for us last year and while I agree that he slows our game down I'm happy for this little touch of class keeping faith with him.


13.) 21 Aug 2017 14:00:18
Ibra is a big game player, Lukaku is a flatrack bully (apparently) .

Could be a great combo, Lukaku has no back up and if he gets injured Rashfords finishing isn't going get the results we need.

We also need to replace Rooney.

Also we should be playing 60 games this season.

More excited if Ryan Sessegnon comes tbh.


14.) 21 Aug 2017 15:20:55
I worry he may play Zlatan at 10 and shift Miki right. Ultimately it'll be Mata who loses his place.
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see Ibra being content as an impact sub or squad player and not starting the big games.


15.) 21 Aug 2017 15:32:22
If lukaku got injured I would much rather give martial or Radford game time

Plan and build for the future.


16.) 21 Aug 2017 17:23:51
Utd Road,

We have no back up to Lukaku? Have you not seen Rashford and martial then? Zlatan had the worst shot conversion rate in the league last year I think. Would Martial not have scored the same number of goals playing week in week out through the middle?

As for we need to replace Rooney, he was non existant as a goal threat the last 3/ 4 years. He doesn't need replacing at all. Zlatan won't be a ten minute impact sub. And to be honest the two games we have played an blown the opposition away this season have been down to sheer pace and power. That isn't Zlatan so why would we bring him on to influence games late on? He stifles Mikis game too.

Gds, Jose knows best, sure. He knows far more Jan the rest of us. It doesn't mean every move he makes is the correct one. In hindsight was Zlatan a good signing? I'm not so sure. He held us back imo and I think had we of signed a Lukaku, aubameyang, etc we would have finished higher up the table. Rather than just fill the bench for the sake of it I'd rather give a place to the likes of Pierera.


17.) 21 Aug 2017 17:40:32
Have a feeling Ibra will play alongside Lukaku or just behind, meaning Mikhitaryan taking Mata's spot. Just a feeling.


18.) 21 Aug 2017 17:59:07
If Jose cannot sort the right side issue which Mata is filling in for (for now), then he'll look to what he already has at his disposal. With Ibra coming in he may opt to use Miki on the right as he's a better fit than Mata and use Ibra just behind Lukaku. I'm not entirely sure, but it seems plausible to me. Although Ibra isn't fit for a while yet so this is something that won't happen for a couple months I'd imagine.


19.) 21 Aug 2017 19:25:24
Stand

What's Rashfords shot conversion ratio this season 😂

Zlatan had a low ratio as he took free kicks and long shots. I'm by no means his biggest fan but think he can offer something this season.

Martial had plenty of opportunities last season and score f all the season before he scrapped double digits. Bags of talent but not consistent. I am a big fan of his but everyone who moans about Lingard starting ahead of him need to look at Martial. He also plays from the left and isn't a target man so that's my thinking.


20.) 21 Aug 2017 20:40:22
8 goals 2 games maybe we don't need ibra .
Rash looks the real deal but only got a chance due to injuries .
1 give the likes of rash and martial a chance
2 block there development with a 36 year of big name coming back from a ACL .

Build for the future give youth a chance, 2 great talents in rash and martial give them a chance before ibra imo.


 

 

18 Aug 2017 09:40:26
I personally don't see us making anymore signings this window now. And as we are we have a good squad with a good spine to the team, just think we're short in attack and fullbacks, and that's why I don't think we will win the league. Looking forward to the game tomorrow, hoping what we saw against West Ham wasn't a one off and continues the same way.

Stand-United

1.) 18 Aug 2017 11:41:07
We are going to shoot ourselves in th2 foot if we don't make any full back signings

We only have darmain and Shaw who is still Injuired.

We havnt the b3st record when it comes to injuries.

We need to sign 1 fb at least.


2.) 18 Aug 2017 12:31:15
LB Shaw, Blind, Darmian, Lindelof, Young

RB Tony V, Darmian, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Young, Jones


The way Mourinho plays (with slightly more defensive FBs) this seems pretty stocked to me. And this is without introducing any new young players - where traditionally FB is the easiest position to give minutes to youth players.

Add to this the chance of playing 3 at the back some matches. I'd be happy just to use a settled squad.

Would Marcelo improve us? Of course. But if the right player is not available we have plenty of good players to cover these positions. I thought Tuanzebe looks very strong when he played last year.

Let's just get on with playing football!


3.) 18 Aug 2017 13:40:07
Dodgy, not really well stocked in either are we. Young is a winger, Blind is a jack of all master of none, Lindelof was signed to eventually partner Bailly at CB, Tony has a season or two left, Shaw is never fit and Darmian is non existant going forward. There were options there. Bertrand I suspect would have been attainable and is a good player. Rose wants to leave Spurs, Aurier was almost done according to ed. I think it's our weakest position.


 

 

16 Aug 2017 21:09:18
My big worry this season would be if we lost Lukaku to injury where would the goals come from? To win the league you need to be scoring 70-80 goals. If we lost Lukaku we'd be in trouble I think. That's where it would be handy with someone like Sanchez who chips in with 25 a season. I'm not sure Rashford, Miki, Martial or mata are likely to score more than 10 / 15 each.

Stand-United

1.) 16 Aug 2017 22:15:14
Same for other clubs with morata, lacazette, kane and maybe mane for liverpool.

The only team who could afford to lose their main striker is city (aguero) as they could switch to a 4-3-3 with jesus.

That being said rashford did step up when ibra got injured last season in the europa league, i think we had written the league of at that point btw, so that's a good barometer of how well we could do without lukaku.


2.) 16 Aug 2017 22:15:55
Stand you worry too much. The league has just started. United won emphatically. Scored more goals than anyone else. Take a breath and let it out Sir.


3.) 16 Aug 2017 22:25:46
Stand. I've made that point a couple of times. I honestly think Sanchez will be the perfect fit for us.


4.) 16 Aug 2017 22:42:22
Arsenal wouldn't dare sell him to us in case we won the title again. The fallout from their fans when we did with RVP means we have no chance of getting Sanchez.


5.) 17 Aug 2017 00:04:21
Or just get him on a free in a year Hendon? He seems City bound in a year but it would be amazing if he did a Berbatov.


6.) 17 Aug 2017 10:04:31
it's bad when maze starts giving you pointers on how to relax haha.


 

 

14 Aug 2017 19:02:58
It's very early days yet and i don't think we should get too carried away by one result. Having said that, it was probably the most enjoyable game in terms of performance in 4-5 years. We're starting to see Jose influence on the team. More pace and power than guile. We have a nice blend with the likes of Mata to come in when we're looking to pick little holes in a back 4 or pace like Rashford and Martial to run at and in behind.

In Lukaku we now have a striker who likes to play off the shoulder and run in behind. With Zlatan up top he was very static and came deep for the ball a lot, often occupying the space the likes of Mkhitarian was supposed to be operating in. A lot of the time last year they got in each other's way. This year with Lukaku making run and dragging defenders with him, he's creating space for the 3 behind him to operate in. Miki is a talent wasted out wide. He is clearly much more influential in a central position and we've seen in the few games Lukaku has been up top how much more influence on the game Miki has had. He's almost like a new signing himself.

Matic was outstanding yesterday, covering the ground, making interceptions and his passing was very good. You felt the other players actually felt at ease knowing he was there with them, it rubbed off. Now there will be harder tests to come and to be fair West Ham were poor, but you can only beat what's in front of you. Poor Zabaleta got given the runaround by Rashford, who too was excellect. Who was it a few weeks back saying Rashford was poor and will be at a mid table club in 12 months? I think he'll be a star for the next ten years here. Was happy to see Martial come on and make a good contribution. A goal and assist in 20 mins is good going.

On the defence, we all know Jones, barring the odd rediculous rash challenge, is a good CB, but he has to stay injury free now. He can't continue to be in and out of the side. He's a far far better player than Smalling though. I think Smalling is the one who should be moved on if we're to let one leave. Tony Valencia is a very good RB, it's just a shame his end product is often poor. He gets up and down well but his crossing is poor. Not sure he can play all games this season. The big weakness in our side is clearly LB. Blind is a decent squad player as he can fill in multiple positions, but he's no LB. Shaw is full of potential but I have doubts he'll ever fulfil it sadly. I'm not sure how much longer I'd persevere with him. Last chance saloon this season I think.

Full backs in modern football are a very important position and if we could do business and get two top fullbacks in I think we can have a good go. As it is I think we're short without them. Rose or Bertrand would instantly upgrade us. Don't know much about Aurier to be honest but the signing Jose has made so far have been top draw so if he wants him that's good enough for me.

Really hoping this isn't a false dawn and we produce that kind of performance week in week out. Time will tell. One thing is I actually enjoyed watching that yesterday. Haven't said that often the last 4 years

Stand.

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1.) 14 Aug 2017 19:17:38
I think Leverkusen away I last enjoyed a game like that? That's some time ago.


2.) 14 Aug 2017 19:38:33
I think we will be fine with out 2 new full backs .
People want attacking full backs but Jose's will have to defend first, which they do . I think they do what there told to be honest .

Rose at lb looks a decent player but hasn't kick a ball since January is curently injured and his injury record is up there with shaws.
103 league games over the last 5 seasons .
Any RB will be an understudy to Tony as well imo as Jose seems to rate and trust him.


3.) 14 Aug 2017 20:34:08
Martial came on in the 80th minute took 7 minutes to score and assisted in the 90th .

Fantastic 10 mins.


4.) 14 Aug 2017 21:15:49
And looked as miserable as sin. He's got to change his attitude.


5.) 14 Aug 2017 21:36:55
Good post Stand. I agree with most of your assessment here.


6.) 14 Aug 2017 21:43:41
He doesn't have to smile schmid. All he has to do is play well.


7.) 14 Aug 2017 23:23:24
Schmid why should he be happy. He was a sub. He should be pissed that he is on the bench and make a point when he gets the opportunity. He did that. Now he needs to keep doing that.


 

 

 

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Mort, exactly, hence the OP.

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09 Aug 2017 07:25:48
Allen. Did u watch bale last night? You don't think he would be a big upgrade on anyone in our team then? He would be our best player and give us a whole new dimension.

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06 Aug 2017 14:14:58
Sydney, with the team last season they didn't lose to any top 6 side I don't think. With salah added and Mane not in the ACON they will definatly challenge imo. I think they will concede goals again but they have a lot of firepower and undisaolined teams will struggle to contain. I'd happily wager with anyone they will finish in the top 4. Spurs haven't strengthened as of yet which I fin baffeling, still time tho. Chelsea I don't think will be as strong as last season. Lost Matic and Costs is off, who has been brilliant the last few years for them. City I think will win it.

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06 Aug 2017 11:09:11
I've been saying since the start of the summer we should go for Bertrand. A good proven PL left back to compete with Shaw, push him on a bit. I can't see it happening but would be very happy if it did. Lb is more a priority than RB so this is where we should be focusing. Bale isn't happening no point even thinking about it. Ed01 I think your well placed to challenge with what you have. I have you finishing second in AJH prediction comp. I just think with Mane, Salah, Coutinho (don't see you selling) , Firmino, Sturridge, Etc you will have to much for most teams. Can still see VVD arriving too.

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31 Jul 2017 10:30:56
Gds that's like saying had he not given away a pen against Everton or a few other things we would have got 4th. Dress it up anyway you like, if you think Fellaini is a good football, that's your opinion. I beg to differ. If he was playing for someone else now would you be hoping to sign him?

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21 Aug 2017 17:23:51
Utd Road,

We have no back up to Lukaku? Have you not seen Rashford and martial then? Zlatan had the worst shot conversion rate in the league last year I think. Would Martial not have scored the same number of goals playing week in week out through the middle?

As for we need to replace Rooney, he was non existant as a goal threat the last 3/ 4 years. He doesn't need replacing at all. Zlatan won't be a ten minute impact sub. And to be honest the two games we have played an blown the opposition away this season have been down to sheer pace and power. That isn't Zlatan so why would we bring him on to influence games late on? He stifles Mikis game too.

Gds, Jose knows best, sure. He knows far more Jan the rest of us. It doesn't mean every move he makes is the correct one. In hindsight was Zlatan a good signing? I'm not so sure. He held us back imo and I think had we of signed a Lukaku, aubameyang, etc we would have finished higher up the table. Rather than just fill the bench for the sake of it I'd rather give a place to the likes of Pierera.

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21 Aug 2017 12:34:51
Shappy and Danny, bang on the money. This will be a monumental mistake. He won't be happy playing ten mins here and there and when he's an the pitch the likes of Pogba etc do nothing but look for him and him only. He hinders the likes of Rashford and Miki . I just can't understand it.

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21 Aug 2017 11:21:32
Does anyone genuinly belive he will sit on the bench for the majority of games? I don't. Plus look how we have finished teams off in the last 15 minutes these last two games. When the opposition are tired we have counter attacked with the pace of rash/ martial, Miki and Lukaku. Zlatan won't be involved in any of that.

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20 Aug 2017 22:58:54
Because he's playing centrally, it's no coincidence. He needs to play centrally to get the best out if him.

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20 Aug 2017 11:57:46
Jred we don't need another CB if jones can stay fit. With him, Bailly, Lindelof and rojo we should be ok. The need for full back is more offensively than defensively. Darmian is ok defensively, but we need a LB willing to provide width and get up and down the pitch. We don't have that currently.

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