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20 Jan 2018 22:55:45
Ryan Sessegnon seems to get better and better. Massive talent at his age. With us badly needing a decent LB, just wondered ED002 If United are keeping tabs on him? Have we any interest at all? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 21 Jan 2018 00:53:06
Shame. Think he’ll go right to the top of the game.

{Ed007's Note - And wishing he was Kieran Tierney....

2.) 21 Jan 2018 07:18:06
We have a decent left back, his name is Luke Shaw.

3.) 21 Jan 2018 08:45:12
And oh how reliable he’s proven to be over the last 3/ 4 years. He needs proper competition, it’s a weak area in our side.

4.) 21 Jan 2018 10:24:37
If We keep the Shaw we have seen the way 4/ 5 matches we have a player on our hands. Remains to be seen. Don’t see what’s wrong with keeping Darmian to fill in on both sides as and when (unless he wants to leave to play regular football) . Don’t forget Young has been excellent too this season. If TFM comes back next season he can provide good cover at right back.

Midfield is where we need some serious re-inforcements now we have Sanchez coming.

5.) 21 Jan 2018 11:43:27

Because it’s all about shiny new signings mate, forget the dead wood we already have, they are all useless.

6.) 21 Jan 2018 13:09:04
Keeping Darmian means blocking the chance of any comptetent right sided full back. That is to say stopping us getting a full back that can defend, attack at pace, can put in a good cross and who might chip in with the odd goal.

7.) 21 Jan 2018 13:05:13
I haven't seen enough of Ryan, but from what I've heard he will soon be at a top club in the PL. On the other hand I've watched Tierney on a couple of occasions and I think we should go for him. Young could be cover for Valencia and Shaw and Tierney can battle for the LB.

8.) 21 Jan 2018 13:22:40
Ryan looks a very good player could and might play a bit further forward in the future.

9.) 21 Jan 2018 14:01:53
Let's remember also that if rojo is good enough to play left back for Argentina in a world cup final then he ie certainly good enough to play left back for us.

10.) 21 Jan 2018 14:41:59
No he'S not.

11.) 21 Jan 2018 14:43:37
Argentina’s left options must be dire then because Rojo is shocking at left back not having a dig at him because I think he’s a very good centre back but left he is terrible.

12.) 21 Jan 2018 15:42:26
I dnt think he'll be a left back for much longer in his career! He's basically a LWB right now at Fulham. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends being a LW in his prime years!

13.) 21 Jan 2018 16:11:43
I agree, may move forward like bale did.

14.) 21 Jan 2018 22:43:12
Competent right beck BFB? Darmian plays for Italy. The mastersof defending.

15.) 24 Jan 2018 17:35:08
Worst italy team for 80 years.



15 Jan 2018 16:00:57
Ed002, sorry to bother, just wondered if there was any update with regards to Sanchez. With Wengers saying it could be done in 24/ 48 hours is there any progress ether way? Where do you see his most likely destination? Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer "most likely" questions sensibly. Wenger ill likely be right that it will be completed soon - perhaps in the next couple of days but there is no agreement just yet.}

1.) 15 Jan 2018 16:05:19
Twitchy bum time, we'll just have to wait and see.

2.) 15 Jan 2018 16:09:48
No probs ed, cheers.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 16:15:06
Notice that it says will be completed but not where he will complete to. I still struggle to believe he will be a Utd player with it seeming so nailed on for city for so long.



08 Aug 2017 20:46:54
Will that be the end of the Bale rumours?


1.) 08 Aug 2017 22:31:19
Does that actually change anything if they only wanted to sell him if they get Mbappe?
Would he have been playing if Ronaldo was fit?

2.) 09 Aug 2017 05:55:54

3.) 09 Aug 2017 07:00:11
Would Isco not be available if Mbappe comes in AND Bale stays?

4.) 09 Aug 2017 07:25:48
Allen. Did u watch bale last night? You don't think he would be a big upgrade on anyone in our team then? He would be our best player and give us a whole new dimension.

5.) 09 Aug 2017 09:04:35
But if he doesn't want to come then its pointless chasing after him.

6.) 09 Aug 2017 10:07:53
Mort, exactly, hence the OP.

7.) 09 Aug 2017 10:30:01
dont clubs usually ask the agent if his player would be willing to join and I'd imagine if we got told he (bale) has no desire to join us then we just wouldn't pursue him so if we are interested like the eds have said we are then we must have been encouraged to carry on pursuing.

I've no idea if this makes any sense my heads a shed from just writing it 😀.

8.) 09 Aug 2017 11:03:37
I think i know what you mean dave :-)

9.) 09 Aug 2017 11:10:57
And bales agent has always said that his client is going nowhere. Wd bale improve our team. probably. but not at a cost of 90m.
Despite being 32 cr7 is valued 40m more than when we sold him in his prime. Bale despite being only 28 is valued the same as he was 4 years ago, this in an era when transfer fees are rocketing. Why has bales value not risen? 3 reasons imo. injury record, the loss of that extreme pace that made him so devastating previously and the fact that RM would happily cash in on him if he could be persuaded to leave so that they could buy mbappe.
Good player yes but not worth 90m or so with his injury record.
Would prefer isco all day long as I suspect RM will when la liga kicks off.

10.) 09 Aug 2017 11:56:55
I watched the game and he did very little can see why he might be available. He is no where as influential in that Madrid team as the other guys (modric, isco, kroos, Ronaldo, benzema) and for me influences the game very little. For 90 million I would rather spend it on 2 other players.

He does no defending and good in a counter attack sense where he has a lot of room to run into. Put Martial or Rashford into that real team and they would thrive as well if given the chance to run one on one at defenders.

I would not be surprised if Real come calling in a year or two for our guys.

11.) 09 Aug 2017 13:29:17
Watching us last night I wish we had signed Bernardo silva He can keep the ball, we are miles away, Lukaku did nothing to impress me or change my mind about him, didn't look mobile, or have a great touch.

12.) 09 Aug 2017 15:46:53
Still think we need a CM who can control the game Herrera for me isn't good enough he's a jack of all trades master of none. With matic at DM I would prefer a more technical player than Herrera I like him but to get to the next level we need a modric or silva type player who can unlock deep defences and keep Possesion in tight areas.

13.) 10 Aug 2017 09:26:00
Lukaku is all brain, he's reading of the game is just on another level :D.



14 Jul 2017 17:55:44
Matic missing Chelsea tour. Think it's imminent then.


1.) 14 Jul 2017 20:22:26
Juventus are supposedly interested too.



09 Jul 2017 13:52:20
All the best Wayne Rooney. We had 8-9 really good years from him. Hope he is successful back at Everton.


1.) 09 Jul 2017 13:58:13
well said stand-United.

2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:24:23
After Ronaldo left he practically carried us.

3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:42:06
lets just take a moment to remember that overhead kick against City.

4.) 09 Jul 2017 20:28:36
and the newcastle volley.




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31 Aug 2019 17:34:08
"25 Jul 2019 23:34:54
Looking like another farce of a window in all honesty. Bissaka class deal. Very happy with that. James is still a kid with a lot to prove. Just a few weeks left and messing around lowballing, haven't addressed CB, CM or CF yet. Talks of Maguire, Bruno, SMS etc, I can't see anyway we wrap those deals up. Ed does his usual dithering, miss out on big players who would make the difference. I can't see anything other than a fight for 4-6th again. At most I see us eventually paying £80 odd million for Maguire. Get Bruno and sms in and give us a chance.


I posted this in July and got hammered for it by a lot of regulars on here. Even the drama queen award I think too. I got told we had improved morale, improvement in Rashford and McTom, the youngsters stepping up etc etc. Does anyone think maybe I was correct in my assessment? Has anyone seen anything in the first few games to think we will even have a chance at challenging top 4? I said 4-6th and to be honest with that I've seen I think 6th is unlikely. Shambles how this huge club is run. Shambles how Ole was given the managed job after a little decent run against poor sides. His record in the last 15 games is nothing short of pathetic. This club is falling further and further from the elite sides.


1.) 31 Aug 2019 18:04:39
Good away point at Southampton though stand. A lot of the top teams will go there and struggle to perform 😉.

2.) 31 Aug 2019 18:45:57
You can't post anything on here that's negative because you just get shot down.

We have 2 world class players and even that is debatable

Other than a decent defence which has only kept 1 clean sheet so far and shaw is now injuired there is nothing to be positive about this squad

We are 4 games in and struggling to break teams down and score.

{Ed047's Note - genuine question Bolger but which two do you consider to be World Class?

3.) 31 Aug 2019 19:37:38
It really is that bad. Our midfield is pathetic. The only good player is pogba and he doesn't want be here. Mctom is simply not good enough and I doubt he ever will be. Would be good cover and someone to bring on to close out a game, but nothing more. Pereira just seems a bit rubbish and I don't see him making it. And that's it beyond an old knackered dm and a bunch of kids.

Up front, Rashford isn't a reliable tip tier striker, he just isn't good enough. Martial might make it, Mata is old and slow, the rest are kids.

With the joke of a midfield we'll likely never know if Martiall and possibly even Rashford could make it, as the service is so poor.

Out of front 6, the only players that could potentially move to and play regularly at say City or pool is pogba, if he sorts his attitude out, and maybe Martiall if he can live up to his potential. How many of city or Liverpool front 6 could get into our first team?

Add to that we have a novice manager, we really have no chance of success whatsoever.

All we have is hope, and that fades a little more with every game.

{Ed047's Note - Pogba would not get near City or Liverpool’s side, I wouldn’t even have him at Arsenal red.

4.) 31 Aug 2019 19:44:49
It would be an argument that only pogba and dave can be classed in that bracket.

The pogba you get for France that is.

And although dave has not been the same player the past season he is still a class keeper.

5.) 31 Aug 2019 19:47:18
Pogba gets carried every game. I'm sure if he was dropped, we would play better.

6.) 31 Aug 2019 20:03:27
Well let's hope madrid come up with an offer that we can't say no to.

7.) 31 Aug 2019 20:04:02
Ed, I think if you put pogba in one of their teams you'd see an exquisite player. His creativity and ability would shine with the amount of space and movement he'd have around him.

{Ed047's Note - just don’t see it Red, there’s no way either of those sides would carry him. He literally does next to nothing in every game.

8.) 31 Aug 2019 20:04:06
Christ ye lot are really disluioned if you think pogba and ddg are anywhere near world class.

{Ed047's Note - Pogba never has been nor will he ever be, DDG certainly was but is not at the moment.

9.) 31 Aug 2019 20:12:24
This is not a knee jerk reaction. United will not finish in the top 6 this season. Any team that sits deep we will struggle against as we lack creativity. Any team that wants to play will always have a chance because what chances we make we do not convert enough so will always be in the game add to that our squad is very thin, we missed martial today a player who does convert chances. Rashford is not that player I do not think he ever will be.

United are a very average side at full strength so a couple of injuries to key players and I say that loosely I think we’re looking at 10th. I've accepted this as we’re going to need patience and a few transfer windows though fear the type of player we need to take the next step will not want to join. I lived through the 80s when we was bang average and was a cup side at best. Those days may be back until we have a board and manager on the same page.

10.) 31 Aug 2019 20:23:05
Pele was world class at one time as well don't mean I want him on my team now. says a lot utds two best players are a winger who's all round play is very poor to day the least, but has scored with nearly every shot and a right back who can cross or play a forward pass, and won't give 5 assists during the league.



12 Aug 2019 08:09:21
Good result yesterday and a really good second half performance. I worried for us first half, we were poor and Chelsea were the better side until the goal.

Defence looked much improved. Maguire and Bissaka looked like they had been here years, the back 5 looks settled for the first time in years. Shaws give from the best of the back line to probably the weak link overnight, although he's still decent. Lindelöf continues to impress me, think he can be top class, hopefully with a settled partnership he will fulfill his potential.

McTom is improving and worthy of his place at the mo, but what a shame we didn't add a coupe on midfield. Had we added a CM such as SMS and a creative mod like Eriksen we would have a side Capable of challenging. Frustrating.

My worry is the teams that sit 10 behind the ball. I think we'll be fine with teams that play high up the pitch and leave space for the pacy to run into, but the sides who sit in deep with everyone behind the ball ie when you need that creative magic that a player like Eriksen brings regularly. Pogba is more than capable but has to nant off days and wants out.

Anyway I haven't changed my prediction that we won't get top 4, but it was good to see and a good result.


1.) 12 Aug 2019 08:28:40
Against teams sitting back is where Maguire gives us another dimension.
He will step into midfield thereby giving an extra body in attack.

2.) 12 Aug 2019 09:11:11
I thought it was the first half tactics that made shaw look as poor as he did, he was constantly getting into 2v1 situations as rashford wasn't tracking azplicueta.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 10:00:39
Shaw will look worse as teams will realise it is pretty pointless attacking down the right.

Greenwood will be important against teams that sit back I think, they are the games where he will start to get his goal tally up, he will add another dimension to an already very dynamic attack.

4.) 12 Aug 2019 10:17:47
We are completely set up for the counter attack (hence us doing better after Chelsea had to find an equaliser) so solid defence will be crucial all season.

Trouble might be when we have to find a way through teams who park the bus (unless we coax them into attacking us so we can then get behind them) or teams realise we are one dimensional and play only one way - and plan to nullify this.

We will also struggle against superior midfields.

However, looks like we will take our chances and we’re still a work in progress. Still buzzing after yesterday and increasingly confident of reaching the top 4.

5.) 12 Aug 2019 10:51:12
The teams that sit back might provide an opportunity for mata. He can play 10 in that instance and pull the strings from the edge of the box using his guile to unlock defences. We can Also try Gomes at 10 and let him weave some magic.



02 Aug 2019 16:33:10
I'm really not sure he's the right player, and the money is absurd for a player of his ability. BUT. he improves the side, so I guess we have to be happy ish with the deal. We really need to tread carefully because were in danger on genuinely becoming a 4th-6th side for the long term. I'm not confident in the direction we are heading. I don't think Ole is the man. I don't trust Woodward and to be frank we don't have many top players. Feels like this season is huge for the direction of this club for the next ten years.


1.) 02 Aug 2019 16:53:58
Pass the prozac to the left hand side.

2.) 02 Aug 2019 17:46:32
Dqotd contender?

3.) 02 Aug 2019 17:52:03
I thought it has won but Jaime and Scott have put some fine entries in also.

4.) 02 Aug 2019 17:42:21
The has to be one of the worst posts I've seen on this site in all the years I've been coming on.


5.) 02 Aug 2019 17:43:24
Stand how are you mate?
I agree with some of what you say and disagree with some.
I think we have just signed 2 top epl players and a wildcard in james that adds something we have been sorely missing in blistering pace. He will be an important option this season.
Martial looks likely to improve. Rashford also.
Mctom will force his way into the team and looks to be improving very well.
Shaw and lindelof took big steps forward and needs to again this season.
Pogba looks likely to stay i just hope it works out.

Im not sure there is much improvement in mata rojo smalling jones matic jessie periera young or sanchez but new blood like chong greenwood gomes and tuanzebe could see the end of some of that old guard.

So we still do need a couple more.
Is ole the man? He has the job so let's wait and see.
To me its obvious that we need a DoF of sorts. i'm not sure on the score of that role without knowing the reset of the structure but with the autonomy for transfer and player and contract negotiations for sure.

Im 100% convinced Liverpool will lose more than 1 game this season. I think we will improve and from where we are that's what i want to see. I want to see players wanting to and be able to compete.
I think we will sign 2 more players if we do and get a good start we will compete to win trophies next season.

6.) 02 Aug 2019 18:44:36
Great post ken.

7.) 02 Aug 2019 18:47:29
Its a lot of money but we'll recoup a fair bit from selling advertising space on Harrys forehead.

8.) 02 Aug 2019 19:22:09

You do realise this is the Manchester United rumours site.?

How dare you have anything positive to say.

I am never reading your posts again, unless you adopt a more negative attitude and start believing football is the most important thi. g in the world and also it is you who has to single handedly raise the money for transfers.

Off with his head.



01 Aug 2019 18:07:07
Personally don't think we'll sign Bruno. Shame as he looks a talent. Hope I'm wrong.




25 Jul 2019 23:34:54
Looking like another farce of a window in all honesty. Bissaka class deal. Very happy with that. James is still a kid with a lot to prove. Just a few weeks left and messing around lowballing, haven't addressed CB, CM or CF yet. Talks of Maguire, Bruno, SMS etc, I can't see anyway we wrap those deals up. Ed does his usual dithering, miss out on big players who would make the difference. I can't see anything other than a fight for 4-6th again. At most I see us eventually paying £80 odd million for Maguire. Get Bruno and sms in and give us a chance.


1.) 26 Jul 2019 00:35:41
You trying for drama queen of the day award? 🤣.

2.) 26 Jul 2019 05:19:09
Over to AJH.

3.) 26 Jul 2019 06:36:41
As the window starts to close the panic seems to grow with it. Stand, clearly we haven’t finished yet but what about the progress of the youngsters? How about the clearly improved morale? The development of McT? DDG signing a new deal?

Whatever happened last year we currently loom well prepared and ready to go. The squad lacks depth but we’ve tried signing big names and most of them haven’t worked out. A CB and a CM and I think we will comfortably make top 4.

4.) 26 Jul 2019 07:15:34
Seems like ground hog day on here with a new post like this to wake up to every day.

Did you try the search function? “Miserable ****” will yield the best results.

5.) 26 Jul 2019 07:40:53
Wazza, if we don’t sign anyone by Tuesday I can’t wait to see the meltdown on here.

6.) 26 Jul 2019 07:45:42
Dodgy - no drama whatsoever, just the obvious thst people like to ignore

Wazza- just a realist pal. Seen it time and time again.

Ajh- If we sign a minimum of two decent first 11 players we should be in contention at least for top 4. Still feel we’re short at that tbh. But as we’ve been well informed, United are playing games again offering silly amounts of money they know are not sufficient. Dithering. If we want the players pay the money. As you say big signnibgs haven’t worked for us, doesn’t mean they won’t tho, just need the right ones. Allison and VVD took Liverpool to a CL title and one point from the PL title, that shows what a couple of the right big signings can do. Unfortunately we don’t hace a manager fit to lace klopp Boots.

As for development if youngsters, great, all for it. But we can’t rely on them to close the gap. They will be bit part players. Our midfield will get overrun by most top sides if we dive improve it. Fred and Matic are poor, Pererra has never took his chance. The only top CM we have doesbt want to be here and as such doesn’t bother when he’s on the pitch.

And where are the goals coming from? Rashford is not a 30 goal a season striker. Martial floats in and out of form. Lukaku doesn’t fit.

You say we lack squad depth, I’d argue we lack first 11 quality. Be honest with yourselves, how many of our players would start for city or Liverpool? 1, maybe 2?

I had Liverpool to win the league last season as I could see the improvement. Unless united somehow produce 3 top signings I’ll put it out there now, we won’t make top 4 again.

Some call it drama, we’ll let's wait and see.

7.) 26 Jul 2019 08:03:41
Stand-United, you have mentioned only the negatives.
What about the positives?

Rash has not played a whole season solely as a Striker. So we do not know yet whether he can produce 20 plus goals.
The talents we have from the academy is massive.

We may be short on quality in midfield.
But Fred will be like a new signing. The likes of Mctominay and Andreas will be ready to step in when needed.

Also we have signed a proper winger and arguably the best RB who will seamlessly slot into the starting 11.

And mainly, our improved play style will cause problems to the opposition.

Two weeks is still a lot of time in the transfer window.
So keep calm.

8.) 26 Jul 2019 08:09:44
Really don’t think we need a new striker of Rom leaves. Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Sanchez can all do a great job there.

AWB looks quality, and as long as we can get in a CB we are vastly improved.

Al the talk of Bruno and SMS etc - unless we actually get an acceptable bid for Pogba I don’t see either happening.

Maguire and Longstaff I think will happen and that is it.

9.) 26 Jul 2019 08:41:17
Right, we were 4/ 5 points off of top four last season and that is after the team played well below what they are capable of for large parts of last season.

So why have we got no chance of top four this year? All the team need to to do is play to their potential.

There is no point comparing us to City or Liverpool as we would need to sign 10-12 players to be at their level. Which just isn't happening.

Our aim this season has to be to be better than Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. Who did we beat yesterday?

Arsenal unless something drastic happens between now and the close of the window won't be much stronger if at all. Chelsea have sold their best player, been unable to sign anyone else and have hired a manager with only one years experience (at a lower level) . So why are they going to be better than last season? Spurs granted have signed a great midfielder, yet we beat them yesterday.

We have massively improved our side with the signing of AWB. Players like Lindelof, Dalot, Shaw, McTominay, Rashford and Martial have gained experience and should be better this season than last. We have a fantastic crop of youngsters who could step up. The atmosphere around the club is ten times better than it was this time last season and that is with two players wanting to leave. Which highlights just how poorly the situation was managed last summer.

We will be better than last season, and in reality we only need to turn two loses into wins and that would secure top four. This side is more than capable of doing that.

10.) 26 Jul 2019 08:42:55
I really think we need a better left back luke shaw doesn't do enough going forward for me and he's positional sense is poor defensively every game I watch he gets dragged inside every time.
We need to buy Tierney 25m is gone be a steal this kid is the real deal he would fit us perfectly.

11.) 26 Jul 2019 08:45:06
AJH if we don't sign anybody else by the time the window shuts I'll probably take a break from the site 😂

But we will bring more in and we will be fine.

Then people will find something else to moan about. I remember not so long ago people were moaning about Chevrolet being our main shirt sponsor. People will literally moan about anything!

12.) 26 Jul 2019 10:03:10
Maybe he's not a drama queen? 12/ 13 days left of the window, 2 players signed and 0 sold, one injury away from seeing Smalling and Jones as the 2 at the back. No right winger, no midfielders signed with Herrera and Fellaini having left, no CB bought in either. Same old s**t!

13.) 26 Jul 2019 10:14:27
TrueRedDevil- if you read the OP I’m happy with the Wan Bisakka deal. I don’t know what you’ve seen if Fred to think he’ll be like a new signing, but I watched him before he signed for us and I’m yet to see for us or previous side have a decent game. His game is very limited, energy, that’s about it. Andreas has floated about for years now, has the odd good game but won’t be a first 11 player for us, just not good enough.

Eric - neither Rashford or martial have scored 20 prep goals in a season, Sanchez has been abysmal and greenwood looks a prospect but can’t rely on a kid to get us 20 plus goals: so where are you seeing the goals coming from, I must be missing something?

Snappy, are you actually comparing results against top 4 rivals in a pre season friendly as some kind of indication? You say martial and Rashford should be better than last season. We’re they better last season than the one before? Has Rashford progressed each year? I’d argue not.

Was I the only one who watched as we got beat time and time again toward the end of the season? We had a good run against the bottom sides, soon as we faced the top half we got found out again, out the cups, and quite frankly were shocking the last 2 months of the season.

Not point comparing to Liverpool or city maybe not, but if we want to get back to that level that’s what we have to do. No point spending £50m on players like Fred, we need top players or we’ll be a top 4-6 side for the foreseeable future.

14.) 26 Jul 2019 10:16:46
Good post Shappy I agree we are in competition with Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal for a top 4 place and I wouldn't rule out the likes of Leicester possibly Everton or even West Ham and Wolves to keep us honest.

I know many don't agree but I think Maguire would be a huge signing and with the emphasis of playing on the front foot, pressing hard, putting the opposition under pressure and winning the ball back higher up the pitch where we can kill teams with our pace and movement in the transitions hopefully we can enjoy some good football along the way.

15.) 26 Jul 2019 10:58:52
Stand. We beat Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea. Are they not the top teams you are worried about?

16.) 26 Jul 2019 11:16:55
It seems we are awful and everyone else is amazing . we underperformed last season it all went, jose 3rd season, on us and yet to be honest we still should of made top 4 .
Never mid new players get our current players playing more as a team, address some of the tactical issues from last season that in itself should be worth 10-15 points .

17.) 26 Jul 2019 11:33:41
Wazza we finished below then all 😂 what good is it beating them if we lose to the lesser sides and finish behind them.

Jred, how many players of ours do you put in a city or Liverpool side? Get real, we’re a poor side.

18.) 26 Jul 2019 11:34:50
After we came 2nd to city lots on here said our squad was good enough to compete. It was down to jose and that he was under achieving with this squad
Now those same posters are saying we can't compete with city or Liverpool.
Ergo our squad is not good enough to compete and jose over a burdened in coming 2nd with this squad.
If we want to compete we need 3 more signings and we need to rid the lub of 3 4 or 5 more players.
Then we can compete.
Im sticking my neck out now and saying Liverpool will not be in the top 2 next season. Big fixture pile up and they are yet to strengthen which they need to do to keep moving forward.

19.) 26 Jul 2019 11:45:54
Yes Ken, Liverpool were lucky in regards to injuries.

20.) 26 Jul 2019 11:51:50
They were very good last year. But i think they over achieved.

21.) 26 Jul 2019 12:29:45
Stand. Your point was that we only beat lower teams and lost against everyone above us. That is not correct and your next reply proved that you are simply contradicting yourself.

22.) 26 Jul 2019 12:32:01
Ken, how did they over achieve? I’m sure they had the best defensive record, lost one game all season was it? Made CL final year before, won it last year. They didn’t iver acheive, they’re just better. It’s a hard pill to swallow but we have to admit the obvious. I’d have a wager with anyone they will be top two again. Who of United, Chelsea, Spurs or whoever have improved to the degree needed to over take them? I think a lot on here are setting their expectations of this united side to high. We’re a poor side with one World class player and a lot of overpaid, lazy and frankly poor footballers.

23.) 26 Jul 2019 12:48:19
Stand - what’s the fixation with 20 goals? If Rash, Martial, Sanchez, Pogba (if stays) all chip in with 15 goals each plus others players chilling in with 4/ 5 each we are on to a good thing. The way it seems OGS wants to play is a fluid forward line rotating around so I think we will see the goals more evenly spread over the season as we have no focal point. He’d keep Rom if he wanted that.

24.) 26 Jul 2019 13:14:30
Stand-United, you have got it absolutely spot on. I would argue that if Lukaku goes, then we'll need both Fernandes and Pepe in. Also another central midfielder, longstaff, as matic, Fred and perriera are not going to do anything for us.
Biggest problem we have is creating enough chances and width along the pitch. Fernandes will be excellent, he plays on the right mostly very creative, and scores goals. Pepe will give us width and unpredictability in attack, which we've been lacking for years.
We then need a central defender as non of Bailly, Rojo, Smalling, or Jones can stay fit and non are good enough. I cannot understand why we didn't go for Alderweild AND McGuire? We need proper strength in central defence. And two of the aforementioned, should have been sold.
We shall wait and see what happens between now and the end of the transfer window. But all the points you make are valid and realistic view of where we're at present.

25.) 26 Jul 2019 13:38:01
Wazza - my point is we had an easy run of fixtures when everyone thought we became world class overnight again, then when the fixtures got trickier we showed our level again. We got beat by arsenal, beat by wolves, battered by Everton, beat by City, beat by Cardiff for Christ sake. Drew with Huddersfield.

After the performances the last few months we needed a big window. So far with a couple of weeks left we’ve signed a good rb, and a kid for the future. Not addressed the glaring issues at Cb, CM or attack

Eric- my issue with 20 goals is if you don’t score you can’t win. Rashford martial and Lingard to score 15 each is very very unlikely. Pogba probably won’t be here, and Sanchez, what on earth has he done to convince you he can bag 15 goals this season? I bet he won’t score 5.

26.) 26 Jul 2019 14:23:25

Isn't Pepe off to Napoli?

I am sure the Oracle said that in answer to another post.

27.) 26 Jul 2019 15:13:39
Stand they over achieved because they on my list 1 game all year. i'm not saying they were lucky or that they didn't do well i'm ssying they over achieved.
Do you think they will lose more than 1 game next year?
Did you think they would only lose 1 game last year, i didn't so i think they over achieved. Same as united over achieved seadon before last coming 2nd which was borne out last season.

28.) 26 Jul 2019 16:24:05
I agree with Ken, I think to an extent Liverpool overachieved last season. They should have lost more than one game. They were lucky on occasions. They also had the highest shot conversation rate in the league, while also having the least number of injuries of the top six sides.
They were also excellent for large parts of last season.

However, this season they are unlikely to have as few injuries, they are unlikely to sustain the shot conversation rate (which is nearly 10% higher than anyone else) . They don't have the squad depth and they will lose more games this season.

Stand, when Ole took over he tried to implement a similar style to what we have seen during pre-season. Had the squad had the fitness to maintain that style we would have likely won a few more games in the run in and that would have given us the points needed to finish in the top four.

Ole and the coaching staff have worked on that fitness during pre-season. So hopefully the squad can sustain that style for the whole of next season. If we can then this squad will achieve top four, as it is. However, there is a good chance we will add to this squad to make it stronger.

29.) 26 Jul 2019 16:42:44
Johnny Blaze, yep, ed002 did mention that, but we're talking hypothetically of course, as we don't know where Pepe will end up. But if we need a fluid, attack, then Fernandes and Pepe both have to be considered.

30.) 26 Jul 2019 17:26:55
Shappy i don't care how fit our squad is.
If we go into next season with midfield options of
Pogna matic fred mctom pierera we will not compete.
If we go with our current cb options we will not compete.

We need at least 1cm preferably 2 and we need a cb.

People blaming fittness on last years collapse are kidding themselves.
There was a lack of leadership a lack of ability a lack of quality in key positions a lack of harmony a lack of pace a lack of technique.
Lots of average players at this level. No quality in depth when the injuries came.
Awb and james do address and will potentially solve big problem areas.
Maguire will help us improve dramatically i believe.
Bruno likewise if they are signed
I don't know enough about pepe (which seems unlikely)
Dybala really nice player but can he adapt? Again unlikely anyway.
Maybe there are other candidates who knows.
Im not having all this talk of top 4.each team starts on zero and we compete to win. I see fans here daily who have already conceded the title begore its begun. That's not my way. I will enter every match next season believing we can win it but unless we sign some players its unlikely that we will compete to win enough games to compete for honours.

31.) 26 Jul 2019 19:13:50
Ken, the truth is Liverpool and City are too far ahead for us to genuinely compete for the title regardless of whether we sign Maguire and Bruno or not. Obviously signing them will put us closer to them.

We can still compete for the league cup, FA cup and Europa League and have a genuine chance of winning any of them. On our day we can beat anyone, as our game against PSG last season proved.

To win the league you need at least 18 players who could genuinely be in the first team of any side in the league. We are too far away from that.

However, I don't believe it should all be doom and gloom. If you only support United because you want your team to win titles then you will be a disappointed United fan next season.

32.) 26 Jul 2019 21:57:43
That's not the reason i support united. But no matter what the support i'm watching i always want my team / man / woman to win. I don't watch for the entertainment i enjoy the competing.
Same as when i played. The feeling i got from competing was greater than the feeling of winning.
I go into every game wanting to win. Never upset when we lose because the game is over never over elated when we win because the game is over.




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01 Aug 2019 13:14:55
Aubameyang would be my choice for cf is he was attainable. Said at the time arsenal signed him we should of gone all out to sign him.




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31 Jul 2019 13:41:20
Wazza how can he be his preferred choice of the two when Dybala isn’t here yet? Rashford May be his preferred choice with what we have. Rashford hardly set the world alight. He didn’t bang in 25 goals did he. To talk as if someone’s position is set in stone isn’t good for anyone. Anyone and I mean anyone including your best players should feel they have to perform to keep their place in the side.




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31 Jul 2019 07:52:01
Wazza why can’t we offer him a CF spot?




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28 Jul 2019 23:26:04
Ed004 I agree with you he’s our best player, by that I mean most talented. But it doesn’t take away from the fact he’s not a team player. He wants everyone to do the hard graft for him to play the Hollywood pass. Always the same. I also don’t care if his attitude pre season has been good, last season I watched numerous games he let players literally walk past him without any effort to win the ball, players run off him with no effort again. When your a world class side you can carry a player or two like him. We cannot afford a luxury like that. So for me he needs to go.




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28 Jul 2019 18:58:13
Ed 004 why do you think Pogba staying would be a good move? I don’t doubt his quality, but he barely ever produced it for us. He’s lazy and selfish on the pitch for us. Plus wants out, sooner he’s gone the Better.


{Ed004's Note - Because he is our best player. You surround him with quality players and he will produce the goods. Theres been no articles questioning his attitude at all pre season. Its been the complete opposite where he has been praised for his professionalism. I also think we have left it too late to adequately replace him before season starts}




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20 Sep 2019 08:57:22

Shows how far standards and expectations have slipped if we’re supposed to get excited scraping past European minnows.




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13 Sep 2019 16:57:17
Does anyone have us favourites? I dont. I wouldn’t put a united win in my acca.




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02 Sep 2019 22:25:31
I think vettel has lost his hunger for it a bit. I can see him moving to a different type of racing. Would like to see Lewis in a Ferrari for a year or two before he’s finished and Verstappen in the Mercedes. Le Clerc looks a talent. Personally don’t like Lewis really but can’t deny he’s the best racer out there, not in question for me.




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31 Aug 2019 20:56:01
“We drew a game and the site is in melt down”

Sure I’ve read the same thing about 12 times in the last 15 games. It’s not a blip, or poor finishing. This situation is how the season will pan out. Have we improved? I’m not sure. We’re stronger in defence, weaker in midfield and attack. What i'd expect is better than 15 odd points in 15 games.




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08 Aug 2019 11:59:09
We scored just 68 prem goals last season, at I guess Lukaku would of had at least 15 of them. Where are the goals coming from this season? I wanted Lukaku gone. Don’t rate him, but to not sell him early enough to sign a tip cf is criminal. Not helped by the sever lack of creativity from midfield, were in no mans land again this season.