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19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?

1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?

4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?

5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.

6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.

8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.

9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.




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15 Oct 2017 12:47:03
Yesterdays game was a bit of a litmus test to give us some perspective as to the teams progression.

What we learnt is that we haven't really progressed very much and that we still have a long way to go before we can compete with the best teams in Europe.

I think our good start to the season has flattered to deceive

That's OK because I'll set myself to enjoy the ride as we build and develop a better squad.

I think yesterdays game was perfect for Zlatan who I expect would have imposed himself on Liverpool's centre halfs and would have given us a platform to play from.

I was expecially disappointed with Lukaku and Mikki yesterday. Lukaku looked like the lazy soft lad I feared he was. Granted he wasn't getting much service but that's when a top drawer centre forward needs to start putting himself about to make something happen.

I don't think Mikki is the answer at no 10 either; too anonomous in big games, especially those played at pace. There are better options and we should find one.

1.) 15 Oct 2017 13:27:35
Not sure how that game can be considered any sort of measure of how far we have progressed.

Some of Fergie's greatest teams got their pants pulled down at Anfield, by poorer Liverpool sides than the one we faced yesterday.

IMO, there has been a lot of improvement in all areas. Just my opinion of course.

2.) 15 Oct 2017 14:11:06
Dunno why Jose is getting all this stick in the press tbh, there was 2 chances in the whole game, 1 for each side, Liverpool was at home onus was on them and they did nothing, Klopp somehow has avoided stick yet Jose whose job it is to get a result did so and he’s anti football etc. nonsense for me.

3.) 15 Oct 2017 15:24:07
Its what jose does in big games away from home. No surprise there. i'm disappointed with the approach i think most fans would be.
I expect to see more attacking intent in the home fixtures against the other ' big 5'

4.) 15 Oct 2017 16:05:06
Not progressed? You're kidding right? We've been scoring goals for fun and only conceded 2 so far creating lots of chances. Yesterday was poor but to say we hav not progressed is ridiculous.

5.) 15 Oct 2017 16:05:35
i think the approach could have been different if the game came before the international break. we also struggled against Stoke after an international break and before a Champions League game so definitely lose some momentum when the international break comes.

6.) 15 Oct 2017 23:47:25
AJH, I said we haven't progressed very much. Sure, we are now better at taking care of the so called lesser teams but yesterday was our first big test of the season. Do you think Barca, Madrid or Munich would have been as woeful as we were yesterday? Do you think they would have looked at that Liverpool side and been as afraid as we were to try and beat them?



10 Oct 2017 20:03:34
Apart from Man Utd, what other teams do you support/ follow and why?

I have two:

AC Milan because my partner is from milan and her family support Milan. When I go to the San Siro I go in the curva with the ultras. It's an incredible experience unlike anything in the Premier League.

San Lorenzo was my team when I lived in Buenos Aires. San Lorenzo have the best songs including one to the tune of 'Despacito' which you can see here https:/ / www. youtube. com/ watch? v=XFZ2yPhqcHw being sung by the 'Popular' part of the stadium where I used to stand. The Pope supports San Lorenzo.

1.) 10 Oct 2017 20:25:30
Mines obviously United and Boca Juniors!

My wife is from Buenos Aires and I get to watch Boca when we visit her family! (Her Dad is season ticket holder)

Nothing can beat the atmosphere of la bombenera on a match day.

Very passionate fans over their and will be a shame if Argentina don’t qualify for the World Cup later this evening.

2.) 11 Oct 2017 00:39:58
Can homnstly say i only support UTD.

But port vale are my most local team do i like to see them do well.

3.) 11 Oct 2017 08:35:50
Boca Utd; you're lucky to be a regular visitor to Buenos Aires (what a city! ) and have such easy access to la bombenera; tickets are hard/ expensive to come by.

Most of my friends in Buenos Aires support Boca but I wanted to follow a team where I could go to the games and a different match day experience from Old Trafford.

San Lorenzo are towards the top end of the Primera Division (currently 7th) and this year reached the quarter finals of the Copa Libertadores. However, the stadium and quality of football is more Division 1 than EPL. Also, even though Buenos Aires is not a cheap city, it cost £10 a month membership for free admission to the standing section for all league games.

4.) 11 Oct 2017 08:42:20
United, Wrexham, FC United, Cardiff are the only teams I follow.

5.) 11 Oct 2017 09:14:50
United and PSG.

6.) 11 Oct 2017 09:45:36
I don't have any team I support other than United. I do have a few teams I have a soft spot for though.

Juventus being the main one, I grew up watching a lot of Serie A, and at that time Juventus stood out as the entertainers of Italian football. Players such as Zidane, Nedved and Del Piero. These were players I idolised and therefore I still have a soft spot for Juventus.

I also have vivid memories of watching LvG's Ajax side play amazing football on their way to winning the UCL, I loved their style and swagger with such a young side.

Athletic Bilbao are a team I admire for no reason other than their steadfast belief in using local players. They don't want to win if it means disregarding their history and I admire that. Principals over success. It's a refreshing thing to see these days.

Although other than United Juventus are the only team I try and watch it possible.

7.) 11 Oct 2017 09:46:19
Red Star Belgrade
Real Madrid because of all the utd players that went there and because I can't support Barca.

8.) 11 Oct 2017 10:08:43
I don't support other teams but I keep my eye on Reading as that is where my wife is from and I've been a few times, and I also have a soft spot for Villa from when they got promoted with us in '75.

9.) 11 Oct 2017 11:16:00
United, cork city, Celtic, I enjoy watching all the championship sides when they come up, there always seems to be a tenacity and desire you don't see in established premier league sides and who doesn't love an underdog.

10.) 11 Oct 2017 12:03:46
Real Madrid because of the brazilian Ronaldo.

11.) 11 Oct 2017 14:16:25
IFK Gothenburg. My second home. A little love for Weymouth fc as i used to play for them. Juventud and A. c. Milan as I had the shirts in the 80's / early 90's.

12.) 11 Oct 2017 14:50:45
Luton town as they are my local team and my uncles are both season ticket holders so have been to watch them more times than i can remember good day out.

13.) 11 Oct 2017 15:56:34
With you there Danny. Luton lad myself. Some great days home and away especially about 2002 time.

14.) 12 Oct 2017 01:23:46
Danny, I always had a soft spot for Luton. My cousin, Stephen Robinson, now manager of Motherwell, used to play for them years ago, so we all adopted the team.

Aberdeen are my second team, tho. Started following them in the Fergie years, because everyone at home was either Rangers or Celtic, and I was always an awkward wee bugger. They turned out not too bad in the end. Then went to Uni there, partly so I could see them most weeks - Manchester didn't do my course unfortunately.

Having said that, I was taken to OT for the first time, at 6 years of age, and met one of my heroes Micky Thomas, just hanging around outside the stadium. Guy was a gentleman to me, so there's only one team really.

15.) 12 Oct 2017 08:03:15
Stephen Robinson from Northen Ireland Nou? If so, a quality player for Luton. Great attacking cm and a legend for the goal past the scousers in that epic game.

My cousin is manager of Dundee! But apart from Celtic I don't follow Sunday league football. Lol.

16.) 12 Oct 2017 10:13:17
Lots of good responses here; thanks very much. Football tends to reflect life and brings people together so it's interesting to see what a varied, international bunch we all are.

A couple of lines really stood out such as Mickey Thomas "just hanging around outside the stadium" at OT. what? and LvG's Ajax side "playing amazing football". which seems incredible after our experience of the worst football ever under LvG.

17.) 12 Oct 2017 17:14:24
Milan in the early 90s because of all the great players they had. Always had a soft spot for them, especially Maldini. Shame they have fallen so low now.

Real Madrid in the late 90s because of Raul, Hierro and Suker, and Championship Manager. Can't stand them now because of all the shady things they've done.

But my first love for whom I still hold a candle is La Viola. When Football Italia was on the telly when I was young, Batigol was everything. And I fell in love with the purple strip too. I even supported Roma the year they won because he moved there.

18.) 12 Oct 2017 21:10:53
He was with one of the Greenhoff brothers (my memory's letting me down these days), on the Friday before the match, just chewing the fat and signing autographs for kids like me. Not a security guard in sight. I think my mum still has my Utd autograph book in her attic. Good thread.

19.) 12 Oct 2017 21:12:32
That's the fella, James. I know he was very popular down there.



18 Sep 2017 19:02:43
I was thinking about City's team selection against Watford and how that would translate with our own squad.

Pep picked a midfield of Ferdandinho, Silva and de Bruyne. The front line was Jesus, Aguero and Sterling. City were the away team!

To my mind that would be like a Utd front six of Pogba, Mata and Mikki in midfield with Martial, Lukkaku and Rashford up front; Wow!

Would people like to see a similar approach at Utd against the so called lesser teams? I would, especially at home.

1.) 18 Sep 2017 19:47:16
Pogba would not be suited to that, he dosent have the discipline to do what Fernandinho does and he's too good to sit on the bench.

2.) 18 Sep 2017 21:02:58
Fernandinho is a sitting type of player just like Matic. I've also noticed that Matic does get forward when he gets a chance.

3.) 18 Sep 2017 21:48:22
At the moment Pogba isn't available. Even if you substitute Matic for Pogba in that line up it's still really creative and full of goals.

Pep even plays with attack minded full backs as well. I think he might be the new Kevin Keegan.

4.) 19 Sep 2017 04:53:10
MancMan, no! the correct "like for like" setup for Man utd would be in Midfield "Matic, Pogba and Miki and in attack "lukaku, Rash, mata/ martial" Matic being the fernandinho, Pogba now begining to express himself more will be our silva and miki is kdb as simple as that.

Forwards, are self explanatory.

Now in all fairness to Jose, that's the team he has been putting out anyway in the premier league and while mata ain't sterling and lukaku isn't quite where aguero is (although not for long i hope), the signs are there for all to see and some the plays this season have given me a lot of optimism.

I don't blame you for getting a bit worried with the noisy neighbors and i'll advise you not to because city's got a lot of problems of their own. I'd suggest, humbly, to enjoy, panic, yell, gasp and then enjoy some more the roller-coaster greatness on display at Old Trafford.

5.) 19 Sep 2017 08:27:04
Raconteur, I'm not worried about City; I'm just admiring their self belief and resulting team choices. Playing Silva and De Bruyne as central midfielders along with full backs who attack is highly unusual. I can't think of any other teams whose line up is so offensive. Obviously it moves the emphasis away from their weaknesses in defence.

I'll accept that Ferdandinho is more like Matic but Mata is definately a more similar player to Silva than Pogba and Rashford compares to Sterling.

I don't believe they will line up like that against stronger teams but it's good for football that they are prepared to put so much attacking talent on the pitch all at once. The derby is a long way off yet so let's see how it continues to work out for them.

6.) 19 Sep 2017 10:33:50
Is it down to a lack of central midfielders of the required quality though manc why he's setting up this way, yaya has been frozen out, gundagon is another Hargreaves. He's not exactly littered with options in the middle of the park. Jose has got this bang on, addressed the spine first and foremost in the previous windows, in the next two windows he will add the final pieces of the jigsaw and I think we are a force to be reckoned with in all competitions.

7.) 19 Sep 2017 11:00:01
aah I see your point now Mancman. I agree.

stretfordender I agree with you too.



19 Jul 2017 14:14:31
We've currently got 6 specialist central defenders in the squad (Smalling, Jones, Tunazebe, Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo) plus Blind. We also have TFM, Darmian and even Carrick who can cover the position.

Maybe we will continue from last season and play a back six but I reckon at least one defender will be on their way out.

My guess is it will be either Smalling or Jones and out of the two I'd prefer to keep Jones.

The squad has a really strange balance at the moment and I think it's because Jose is seeing who he can and cannot bring in before he starts selling.

With all the crazy prices ATM I'll be very interested to see how much we get for our out going players. £40 million for Smalling anyone?

1.) 19 Jul 2017 17:18:54
I can see one of them going out on a loan towards the end of the window. I wouldn't be surprised if there's already been a couple of tentative approaches.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:38:29
I can't see a loan happening although I'm sure you are right about there being enquiries for both.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 22:11:06
Jones a central defence specialist? The only things he's a specialist in is gurning and getting injured. I would personally sell Jones and keep Smalling as back up.



16 Jul 2017 14:16:26
I'm just curious about something about which I hope I can be educated on by someone who has more knowledge about the professional game.

So, we all look at players and we think we know what are their strengths and weaknesses. For example; "Tony V is a terrible crosser of the ball".

Firstly, is our perception correct? How do Tony's stats look compared to someone who we think can cross the ball very well?

Secondly, does Tony V have the same perception? Does he know he is a poor crosser of the ball?

Then, if he knows, what if anything does he do about it?

If he does nothing, then we have to question 'why' since as he is a 'professional' footballer.

Or, if he puts in lots of practice to get better, why do we see no improvement?

The principle can be applied to many players e. g. Rooney's first touch. I suppose the question I'm asking is why we don't see improvements in some players' obvious weak areas, even over many years, and why clubs don't insist they do something about it?

Sorry if it's a naive question.

{Ed025's Note - they practice all the time MM, but in the heat of match situations it will not always come off, the better players have a better percentage obviously but i think tony does a good job actually mate..

1.) 16 Jul 2017 14:58:33
Managers work with players everyday see there game first hand .
Fans are biased and think we now better from our armchair .

{Ed025's Note - very much so jred..

2.) 16 Jul 2017 15:11:21
while i don't disagree with what you say jred, sometimes it is the managers who are biased and fans being lot more objective, we have seen more than few examples where as a fans it is clear as day that the player isn't good enough but manager for whatever reasons keeps backing that player with no real success.

3.) 16 Jul 2017 15:30:21
Common sense
Are you joking?
You think you know better from your armchair, have a word .

4.) 16 Jul 2017 15:57:49
no i am not jred, all our mf's except carrick in last 2-3 years of SAF, rooney under LVG, ivanovic in the season jose was sacked from chelsea, these are but a few examples, everyone who watched any of these teams will tell you these were clearly visible problems except to the manager.

5.) 16 Jul 2017 16:12:44
'armchair fans', 'stadium fans', it doesn't matter, we're all fans who have opinions that are as valid as the other but all these fans don't know as much as the management team do regarding our players, well I hope so anyway, end of the day we don't know what Jose wants his players to do on the pitch and what pleases Jose from the performance or not unless he tells us thru the media.

6.) 16 Jul 2017 16:14:29
Good question, I think the perception on Valencia being a poor crossers is correct, I'm sure he is aware of this and tries his best and practices every day but some players just can't do certain things aswel as others, take a player like makelele when he played, he was an incredible player at what he did but if he got 20 free shots at goal from 25 yards out in training or in match not many of them will be hit as he would like them to be hit in his head.

7.) 16 Jul 2017 16:15:11
Players teams etc have good and bad days but if you honestly think you could do better your nuts.
Yes Jose got sacked but he still done a far better job than you would of done .
A certain player may have a bad game that doesn't mean another player would of done better . Which is what fans like yourself all ways think .

The manger works with the player and is in a far better place to pick the team than you .

Very easy to say I told you so after the event .
Very easy to say what's wrong not quite as easy to do what is right .

Which is why these people get paid millions of pounds to do a job .

8.) 16 Jul 2017 20:18:52
I have a slightly different thought as to Valencia and his crossing.
In his first couple of seasons his crossing was very good, It was around the time of Rooney's hair transplant and he scored 9 or 10 goals that season via headers mostly off of crosses from Valencia.

It was after Valencia's leg break that his crossing seemed to suffer, he then had a change of position from winger to full back. And his crossing has never really recovered.

Now it might have suffered due to the leg break and how the leg healed, it may be the loss of confidence after the injury, or it could be the change in his position meaning he has run further before crossing which might mean he is more fatigued when crossing and less able to concentrate on the cross itself, or he is marked differently or crossing in different circumstances.

His crosses used to loop slightly more where as now they are driven harder and faster.

Or alternatively maybe we don't possess strikers with the right sort of timing and movement to get on the end of his crosses.
If you have a striker who can keep up with Valencia and drive toward that front post and glance a header on target then maybe we would score more from his crosses. But most of his crosses go in front of our strikers who are either going to the back post or the middle of the goal. It's far harder to score a header off of a driven Crosse coming in at pace from those positions.

9.) 16 Jul 2017 21:35:47
It's a mix.

Most people think they know their kids better than a random person, however it doesn't mean the random person can't identify something the parent has overlooked in an instant.

Managers get more right than they get wrong, otherwise they wouldn't be doing the job for long. But they don't always know best.

I knew ten times more than LVG during his calamitous time in charge, despite not watching the players train, liaising with coaches or having as much experience in the game. I have no doubt had we picked a random supporter of Man Utd the overall performances would have been better and we would have finished higher. In fact no manager would have been better. There comes a time where experts become stubborn and blinkered, happens to the best of us.

For example, Lukaku was a strange signing, it contradicts what we are trying to do because he has no touch and isn't mobile. The manager is making a big mistake overall, no doubt the minute Lukaku scores a hattrick people will say I know nothing and Jose is right, but what about the countless games where he will contribute sweet FA and in fact hamper our fast attacks (if we do attack fast)? Nobody is perfect, but on the whole managers do tend to know more than most fans, that doesn't mean they make the right decisions with that knowledge though.




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20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.



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19 Jul 2017 05:06:38
What Shappy said!

Romero is class and I thought so from the his first game at OT.

C'mon Wazza tell us who we can sign who is better. We're waiting!



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17 Jul 2017 22:36:41
I'd buy both Kroos and Matic then sell Fellaini.

That would be a massive upgrade to the squad.



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14 Jul 2017 15:09:35
Even if the player wants to go, we don't have to do the deal. It is feasible to hold the player to his contract. DDG seems like a good professional and he's already at one of the biggest clubs in the world with Champions League football.

However, I really rate Romero. I was at OT when he made his debut and I thought then he looked like an accomplished keeper. I have no doubt he would be an excellent number one for us.

If DDG is sold that leaves an interesting conundrum with Perriera. If I was Jose I would be asking myself, if Romero got injured is Perriera ready to step up straight away?

I think as that we need to reset the balance of our relationship with Real Madrid. They need to understand that they cannot just help themselves to any of our players and that if they are not prepared to be reasonable with players we want to buy from them, we are prepared to walk away and find an alternative.




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19 Oct 2017 17:39:05
WRD; why can't we have both? This is Manchester Utd we are talking about. Serial winners with a tradition of playing high quality football.

When faced with difficult opposition the way Mourinho plays lacks courage. It takes bravery to believe in your own abilities and to try and impose yourself on quality opposition. It's this self belief which makes the difference between winners and talented also rans.

The problem with Jose's approach just at a practical level (nevermind stylistically) is fourfold:

Firstly it undermines the players self belief. His approach says to them that they aren't good enough to beat the other team. This then becomes self fulfilling.

Secondly, it's old hat and managers can work out what to do against it. Like Mourinho said; he was stumped because Klopp left three energetic midfielders on the pitch. If he didn't know how to beat a team because they do this then he needs a rethink. Wenger was once fresh and new but didn't re-invent himself. Mourinho is going the same way.

THirdly, its accepting of losing a certain amount of points - if we go for a draw at all the away games at top six clubs then we are deliberately trying to forfeit 12 points which are their to play for. Those 12 points could lose us the league.

Forthly, this pragmatic approach is not enough against the best. We couldn't even beat Liverpool using it so what chance does this approach have against Madrid, Barca, Juve, Bayern, City etc especially in a knock out competition?

We should be aspiring to go toe to toe and beat these teams, not hiding away from them. You say Jose wins stuff and he has. That isn't to say he will continue to win in the future.

Our ambition is the league not the league cup and the champions league not the cup winners cup. To achieve this our team and our manager need the courage to believe in their own abilities

Parking the bus.



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19 Oct 2017 09:25:06
WRD, that will be me I guess you’re referring to. I suggested the club find an alternative because Mourinho was talking about working for someone else because apparently his £15 million per year salary is not enough. Also after 18 months he is still living in a hotel. Put these two together and it tells me he has no interest in being at Man Utd. If this is the case, then what is so outrageous about suggesting we find someone who does want the job? What kind of message does his lack of commitment send to others at the club, especially the players?

It’s interesting you mention cowardice; I think you might be on to something. Top sports people need courage wheras Mourinho always bottles it in the big games. Last week’s Liverpool game was the latest example. Even last night we were pretty flat against a fairly poor team. Wheras Spurs had the courage to properly take on Madrid and Liverpool scored a hatful, we huffed and puffed and just about got a win because of a cock up from their keeper. So, you tell me whether that’s us contending and winning well as you say.

I think AJH has pretty much nailed it in his response to your post. Top Managers need to keep innovating and I don’t see Jose doing that. He’s starting to become yesterdays man so instead of all the BS and the bluster, let’s see if he’s got it in him to find an extra gear and come up with something different. Our aspiration is to be the best in Europe and we won’t achieve that by hiding everytime we come up against a decent team in a tricky game. I realise by saying this I am also agreeing with Jamie Carragher which is a first.

I’d love to see him do it but I think he’s too arrogant to see what’s required. I think he’ll stay for another year or two then leave for Paris. No doubt he’ll have improved us after the nightmare of Moyes and LvG but we will need someone else to take us to the next level of truly competing with the best.



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17 Oct 2017 08:41:14
Lol AJH. I do find myself often agreeing with the Beast. Where is he by the way? Beast; are you out there?



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16 Oct 2017 22:11:27
Shappy, you've got to stop being so reasonable and I mean that in all seriousness. Please stop being so accepting of a poor performance by both the manager and the players by suggesting Jose might just have pulled off some tactical masterclass.

Jose complained after the match that we were outnumbered in midfield. Was it a surprise to anyone that they played the three guys in midfield that they did? and hey guess what; they overran the two guys we played in midfield. Who would have thought?

We know Mkhitaryan gets lost in fast intense games. Not surprising he was pretty much non-existent so why pick him?

Then there's just the whole negativity of the tactics. What must the players think when the manager shows he has so little confidence in them to beat what is a pretty average Liverpool team? Not exactly inspiring is it?

You say we shouldn't be surprised by Jose's negative tactics in these sort of games. You might be right but that doesn't mean we have to like it and say it's Ok because it isn't. Sooner rather than later you've got to show your mettle when it really counts; that's the mark of true sporting champions. Not hiding in their shell because it's a little bit difficult this week.

And to top it all, our manager is still living out of a suitcase and all but says he would prefer to work somewhere else. Nice one!

So, I'm sorry Shappy but with the greatest respect I don't go along with your pervertedly rational reasoning that all is ok.



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16 Oct 2017 14:57:50
So does Jose by the looks of it GDS2, although he's probably likely to burn his knees on it.

AJH the number is 0800 GREED.