11 Jul 2013 14:49:18
Not sure what has happened over the past few days, have we dragged out feet like I was dreading and missed out? When a player of his ability is available for around £20m-£25m (all costs), you have to get him. I do not know if BM have stolen the march, and I imagine we still can agree a deal if the money is paid, so f***ing pay it. If he wants a clause, then give it to him. Get the deal done!

Sydney!

1.) 11 Jul 2013
Wow syd sounding desperate. its not your best colour

CAIN

2.) 11 Jul 2013
Days? Try weeks. The deal should have been wrapped up as soon as the U21 champs were over.

To be honest we deserve to miss out. Why would a player want to play for a club who are more concerned about saving a few million Euros than signing a top player?

This deal alone is a fantastic representation of our ambition. Success - but only on a budget. Unfortunately the two do not go well together.

redseven

3.) 11 Jul 2013
Syd

Always been in complete agreement with you about this particular scenario. I hope it acts as a major kick up the back side for us. I don't blame Moyes for a second, but people who are into this weird "every penny saved, is a penny earned" while negotiating are persons.

Deeps.

4.) 11 Jul 2013
Guys come on, Thiago has been dragging his feet as he couldn't decide where he wanted to play. We can drag him to Manchester can we? If he had accepted our offer and said he wants to come to us, we would have finalised it with Barca. He hasn't done that and now Pep has had his say and it looks like Thiago has decided on Bayern.

Why does everyone just point a finger at the club? It is the player who decides where he plays his football.

Brendan81

5.) 11 Jul 2013
I have seen syd closely monitering the thiago deal and he has provided us with updates for weeks now. I knw he lyk evry1 of us wil be very disappointed 2 miss out on thiago. let's hope he choose us over bayern.

Sid

6.) 11 Jul 2013
We're not even making the right noises about the player! I mean listen to Guardiola- "it's Thiago or nothing" he's a "super super player". DM hasn't even mentioned him let alone make it sound likes he'd be a hugely important first team player. Who knows, maybe Moyes doesn't want him. I hope that's not the case or else it shows he like SAF Moyes is blind to the needs the team has for a quality central midfield player.

BennyBlanco!

7.) 11 Jul 2013
Again always seems to coincide with the the season ticket sales.

ms85

8.) 11 Jul 2013
How can you say the Thiago deal would be a kick up the ar$e? when the past 5 years we have missed out on Falcoa, Sneijder, Moura, Hazard, Silva, Villa, Sanchez to name a few. I appreciate the different reasons we let them slip through the net but if you want top talent you have to pay top dollar and I think people now need to realise that this won't happen. I hate to admit it as much as the next fan, but Moyes has already defended this by saying "MUFC will always be close to top players, but a big part is to bring youth through" in essence "close" means linked and "youth" means no major moves.

I may, and I hope I am wrong, but we need top quality, and I think we will bring in Baines, Fellaini and one other. In my opinion not the level we should be looking at.

9.) 11 Jul 2013
Guardiola wouldn't have mentioned him unless he knew he would be joining Bayern all thier efforts will go to signing him its him of noone Pep said no doubt he will end up at Bayern

Manred

10.) 11 Jul 2013
We have dragged our feet over cm for a few years.
We keep missing out on targets I honestly think we don't go " after" players like we use to
Jred

11.) 11 Jul 2013
If we miss out on Thiago what has it got to do with the release clause? As far as i'm aware nobody has actually met it yet, I would think people are dealing with Thiago before meeting it and don't think the clause would be the reason we woudl lose him to Bayern? Asm I misign something here?
Invisible STuey

12.) 11 Jul 2013
Brendan

The problem is, as much as your version of events may be right, there is an equal chance that the club are stalling over a couple of million. That is what would piss me off. I am completely fine with a player finding bayern a more attractive proposition than us, not everyone is a United fan. But what if the player would take into account the clubs penny pinching which is in stark contrast to how much we want him. That is where my problem lies. I hope we get to know what is the real story.

Deeps.

13.) 11 Jul 2013
Redseven absolutely spot on mate!

the problem with manchester united is not its ambition, it is the stubbourn nature in which we go about our transfer targets.

RVP was a brilliant signing - would we have gone in for him if he wasnt in the last year of his contract though?

Kagawa - potentially going to be brilliant next year but same as above.

would we be in for Thiago if it wasnt for his buyout clause?

i think not (unfortunately)

safwetrust87

14.) 11 Jul 2013
Brendan, as of a few days ago we still hadn't agreed a price with Barcelona and we still hadn't agreed a deal with Thiago. We have been negotiating for weeks. Just pay the player and Barcelona what they want. For the sake of 2-3 million it will be worth it.

Sydney!

15.) 11 Jul 2013
Deeps I would be very surprised if we were haggling over a few million. I know we are very careful with money but everyone knows his ability, to haggle over paying £15m, £18m or £20m or whatever doesn't add up to me. We were willing to go to £30m for Moura and he is no better than Thiago in my eyes. By paying a few million more we were saving lots in tax payments too so I don't buy it. I think Thiago has just been struggling to decide and now that the guy he has called a 2nd father has come in and told him he will get plenty of game time and it has made up his mind.

Brendan81

16.) 11 Jul 2013
Silva said a few years ago that he went to city because they wanted him more (offered more money) so I go with Deeps on this one, I believe players do look at things like money offered along with other assurances. But money does play a big part in it. And with United, we never talk about other clubs players, which I see as right. Pep just went down in class in my book, just another media loving manager that taps up players to the press.

17.) 11 Jul 2013
Who has said that though Syd? I don't trust anyone during the transfer window, Barca are out for themselves and will leak things to benefit them, Thiago will be out for his own interests as will his father, United even I wouldn't trust much as they will be out for the best deal. Everyone leaks things to help their own cause.

Brendan81

18.) 11 Jul 2013
Agree with deeps I never expected united would get strootman or thiago, as I've said in the past we will give fletcher all the time he needs to get fit and sign fallaini that's whey moyes was employed by the glazers to save money and SAF knew all about it. also I've posted in the past don't hold your breath about signing the quality we need, top six at best