03 Sep 2013 17:36:38
Any of you guys who gave me such a hard time when I said what the Glazers were up to want to now come on here and eat a little humble pie. Think of how much money they have trousered this summer and we end up on the last day making a laughing stock of the club. Don't worry they will pull the strings and Davey will come out as Sir Alex used to and say what great owners they are and how the money is there if the right player is available well how many right players did we see this summer. Instead we have a manager who works on the cheap and has won nothing with Everton a back room staff who won nothing with Everton and a Player who we could have bought a month ago cheaper who has won nothing with Everton. See a pattern starting. We are turning into a club very heavily influenced by people who have won nothing with Everton.


So all you people who slaughtered me for my Anti-Glazer rants stand up and defend yourself


1.) 03 Sep 2013
We seemed to be throwing money every where last night, so I fail to see how this summers transfer debacle has anything to do with the Glaziers directly. It seems to me that it was more a case of having a poor overall transfer strategy and a sh.t Chief -Executive. In fact, I'd wager that most of those late bids were originally Fergie targets. Moyes' targets were probably Baines, Fabregas and Fellaini at the outset; but after it became clear Fabregas was using us to get his cuddle of the Barca Chairman, Moyes' probably had to revert too the player dossiers that were complied when SAF was manager, hence why we procrastinated with other targets.


2.) 03 Sep 2013
I know, KLOOT. Let's all start apologising to each other, for all the wrong, stupid things we've ever said on this site.


3.) 03 Sep 2013
Lol, yeah because you always hold your hands up when you're in the wrong don't you, oh noble one?

(I assume I'm one of the names in your little black book lol, who you have aimed this at)

I've said a few times in the last 24 hours that the whole transfer window was a shambles. There may well be financial constraints but I wouldn't know the details as it's just speculation, so won't jump on the bandwagon just yet. Apparently we bid money for the likes of Herrera, Khedira etc. so it's difficult to assess what could have happened in terms of total investment. You will obviously believe these are phantom bids, which is fair enough, none of us know for sure.

But to me, this window smacked more of incompetence in the market, rather than having no money. Again, I may be wide of the mark.

I will blame the Glazer's to a degree for giving Woody the job, perhaps they saw him as someone to pinch the pennies. Furthermore, our owner's clearly run the club as a business 1st and a football club 2nd, which isn't ideal. But I'm not going to pretend I know there was a particular budget or that we have a 'glass ceiling' on transfer fees.

Don't worry I will eat some humble pie as I thought we would make 2 or 3 good signings when we've been left with just 1, who's hardly a world beater. It turns out that the negative poster's version of events was very close to what panned out - so fair play to you guys! (you know who you are :)

Sorry, but I'll fall short of "apologising" to you Kloot, as you seemed to be angling for last night from your fellow poster's. At the end of the day you rarely even respond to other poster's who put a point to you, let alone put your hands up when you are wrong.

Oh and careful not to fall off that horse, it's awful high up there ;)


4.) 03 Sep 2013
I don't understand you Kloot. our owners sanctioned many deals this year. It's not their fault we couldn't get the players. We spent 27.5m on a midfield player that everybody wanted, tried to get a left back bid failed for other players.

Hardly penny pinching are they. I'm quite happy with the titles and CL trophies/finals our owners have financed!

If u prefer big spending/fantasy owners the. I know a couple of teams wearing the blue colour would suit you!


5.) 03 Sep 2013
'everybody wanted' - I didn't see a queue of clubs chasing the Fro even at his original cheaper price - Utd were in a minority of one and were well and truly shafted by Woodchip and Everton on deadline day


6.) 03 Sep 2013
Anyone can talk of throwing money around but to actually spend it is different. They didnt. Partly becsuse theiman woodenhead is totally useless and they did not want to pay too much for anyone no matter how good they are. They then started to panic near the end to the extent they try to get a left back on loan and supposedly bid only around 3 mil less for Ozil's team mate than it would have cost to buy him who is a far better player - a Manchester United type player not some crab! They don't want to go above a certain amount because they haven't got it. So we end up with virtually jack!


7.) 03 Sep 2013
Cumbria red

My position is well known but your post is laughable. To quote you "All the titles and CL trophies and finals our owners have financed"

We managed that on the basis of Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Ferdinand and a great manager. Do tell me which one of the above players, the core of our great side, the owners financed?

When you figure it then check out their real lack of investment to truly replace them and how we have done in Europe recently as they declined without being adequately replaced.

Personally I am sick, embarrassed and disgusted with what the owners are doing


8.) 03 Sep 2013
Some peeps need to wake up, I ain't a fan of Kloot but let's face it, he is right.
Cumbria Red, our owners/manager/Equaliser offered money for players knowing it would be turned down because it just was'nt enough. Our owners/manager/Equaliser got mugged for an extra 4 million(sideshow bob) because they are tight a$$ed when it comes to money.
Our owners/manager/Equaliser will continue to work on an Everton shoestring, why do you think DM was brought in.
Moyes needs to grow some baws and demand from the owners.
Ed Wood ffs, clueless negotiator or yes man to the puppeteers or both.
Very happy to see Bigwig in the United team, very dissapointed in our clubs owners/manager/Equalisers lack of ambition.
Glazers out.


9.) 03 Sep 2013
Can any of you posters remember another guy who sounded just like Kloot? " Glazers out " everytime there was an anti glazer march he was at the front eveytime. His name, Pete Boyle. If you can access MUTV, you will see the guy in all his glory WORKING FOR THE GLAZERS! I am starting to wonder if Kloot is in reality the infamous Pete Boyle?


10.) 04 Sep 2013
Samthered

doesn't it speak volumes mate? What big-money deal, without previous interest (Khedira?) would go through smoothly in the final few hours of a deadline day?

They were token gestures mate. Made to ensure some fans thought we were trying, but deep down, the board knew they would fail.

Cumbria Red - I'd love to know what titles our owners have financed. They haven't spent a penny of their own money on our team, seriously man, get your head in the game, we're all fans and all grateful but giving those leeches credit for SAF and our squad's achievements while they don't spend a PENNY of their own money on us (unlike our rivals, like Chelsea and City), is unreal.


11.) 04 Sep 2013
HERBIE

Why would Moyes demand money? He was brought in to be the manager who worked on a shoestring and would be 'glad to be there and glad to be given the chance'. A bigger boss wouldn't deal with the nonsense. Moyes was cherry-picked as a malleable, likeable, low-maintenance guy who wouldn't demand money, would say all the right things and would quietly go about his business. success comes second to that, in the eyes of leeches like our owners.

I said when the season began, if they give Moyes money, we'll see success. They didn't. He bought 1 out of 3 players we desperately needed to become a world-class team again, and that was in ridiculous fashion.