23 Sep 2013 18:07:05
2 years ago everyone was on at SAF to play more youngsters, (Welbeck/Clevs/Hernandez), those youngsters have matured and whilst I like them all, what real progress has been made? They are good squad players only now, yet they were meant to be world beaters. The delay has crippled our hope of them ever being world class. Or maybe they weren't going to be all along, opinions will differ.

Maybe the same will be the case for Zaha/Januijuz/Henriquez/Powell/Kagawa to a degree, etc - I just think we have a serious problem with knowing when to blood these players and getting them from potential world beater to being top class Manchester United players - in Kagaw's case it's converting him to our version of English football. The obvious problem is most games this season will be a struggle for us, so I don't see Moyes gambling with youth/unknown. But it could be Pogba all over again, as we seem to lack that know-how to bring potential to it's maximum outcome and the quality players get sick of waiting whilst we dither.

The very fact that we are lacking in so many key areas yet the same old players keep getting used is scary. I understand why Moyes does it, as a lot of fans flip-flop every game about what we will achieve and his suitability to the job - I don't agree with his safety approach though. Whilst we stick with Young, Giggs, Nani (new contract, crazy), Rio, Evra, Valencia, Scholes (last season where Pogba would have been ideal), we are just going to slowly grind to a halt.

Players like Carrick, Vidic, RVP, Evra only have a season or two left in them of being quality Utd players and I think Rooney is off and probably Kagawa. Rio is past it, as is Giggs. So that leaves us with Rafael, De Gea, Fellaini and Jones in a couple of years time that deserve first team football at Utd. We will have the largest pool of squad players known to football, all 6 out of 10's. Needless to say people will disagree with this, but the key point is we are a sinking ship and we need massive changes to stop us going under.

We need to pray the youth get given a chance to develop, because I think the days of us buying world class players is over and we will need 7-8 to just compete in 12 months time. If the youth don't play they will never excel and we will end up with more and more squad players, it kills me to say it but we are heading the way of the scousers, a complete change in mentality is required urgently.

The Capital Cup is meant to be a time to blood youngsters, do you think Moyes will risk losing to Liverpool and City in the space of a few days? He should but no way, so another chance falls by the wayside for the youth to get 90 minutes experience.

1.) 23 Sep 2013
Great post mrsween agree with everything you said

2.) 24 Sep 2013
What bothers me the most about seeing giggs, young and others on the pitch is that it's wasting minutes we could be giving januzaj and the other youngsters. And it's not getting us results either.

3.) 24 Sep 2013
Well It does not surprise me that people are upset about the derby.I watched it with a mixture of resignation and disgust at the abject performance.
It is not surprising - we have an ageing defence and a poor midfield. Fergie always used to rely on the defence and midfield as a solid foundation. Now it leaks goals.
Being behind the curve now we need to catch up with a major investment in a new team for next season.

Position that need to be filled are both full backs -where we are now outrun, a commanding centre back to replace Ferdinand -this could be Phil Jones or Johny Evans - although someone mentioned Garay of Benfica.
Defensive midfield player of potential to replace Keane.
Right wing -probably Zaha or Nani
Left wing Januzaj