04 Oct 2013 20:49:51
One of the ways you judge a manager is by what he leaves behind. Martinez is benefitting from a very strong Everton defence and academy, both of which Moyes was responsible for.
Sir Alex left an incredibly strong club but a poor first team, in terms of the modfield. David moyes has to deal with that. I totally agree that he has not yet got it right but he does need time to adapt to expectations as to the style of play and the need to win every game.
To all the people who say he never won anything at Everton, well how many managers have won, competing against Sir Alex with no money?
If sir Alex had been in charge of Celtic or Rangers with the money they had, no manager would have taken Aberdeen to the Cup Winners Cup.
The only clubs outside of the elite group and yes I do include Liverpool in that group, who did not then get relegated to win an FA cup in the Ferguson era is Everton.
I don't look at the Carling cup because if you are competing in the Champions League you don't bother with it.
So please let's get real and give David Moyes the time Sir Alex had to develop his team and his structure. If in 2/3 years he has not got a quality team and is not producing good young players coming through then fine he should leave. But be fair and respect the fact that Sir Alex believed he was the right man to take over.

1.) 04 Oct 2013
Great post. Let's back the boss.

2.) 04 Oct 2013
But moyes wasnt the manager in '95 when they won the fa cup so I don't see the relevance, unless you are saying that everton used to win trophies before moyes took the helm and made them a hard to beat top 15 club and was happy with that.
mick the red fireman.

3.) 04 Oct 2013
So we should also be thankful that saf spent £7mill on bebe who he had never seen play :)

4.) 04 Oct 2013
GD62 . You're right. You can judge a manager on what they leave behind. My preference is to judge a manager on what they've won which is why I think Moyes is such a poor choice. You could also judge them on their style of football.which is why Moyes is such a poor choice. Everyone on here who supports Moyes states that SAF left the squad in a poor state. If that's true then it's because SAF choice of signings toward the end were poor. DM was also SAF choice:-(

5.) 05 Oct 2013
He also signed Cantona for 2 mill but let's not mention that

6.) 05 Oct 2013
Everyone keeps saying to give moyes time but why there was a few new managers at clubs this year and none of them are playing the s~~t we are

7.) 05 Oct 2013
I reckon in over 20 years I could have signed a Cantona or two, the odds are there. Fergies transfer deals were very hit and miss, you could tell he either outsourced it, or was motivated by money. Some of the players we signed are a disgrace

Tiabi, Prunier, Belion, Bebe, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, just off the top of my head - blatantly something behind the scenes in getting those in, friendly handshakes with agents by somebody.

Unitedrd 71 - Great point.