16 Sep 2013 23:34:23
I was chatting with a friend the other day and it dawned on me that all of our competitive games so far this season have been televised. I then realised that our next 3 games will also be live on television meaning that our first 8 will have been shown live. Come December 10th - 21 of our 26 games will have been televised.

With this in mind; am I the only one thinking that we should be pushing to negotiate our only television rights like the Spanish Giants? I'm not suggesting it's done quite the same as it is in Spain - but some sort of 'pay when you're televised deal' seems fair. Pigheadedness aside - we are a much bigger draw than any of the other English clubs and should see some sort of financial benefit!


1.) 17 Sep 2013
I personally think its outrageous that in this modern age, we cannot watch every single match for free on the tv, especially when I have a friend who lives in Croatia and every CL match is televised for free nationally, and half the time I can't even afford to go to the pub to watch it on sly, and end up having to watch a rubbish stream.
Money has ruined this game enough as it is, and by negotiating our own tv deal its just going to make it more expensive for the loyal fans who just want to watch they're favourite team play football, whether it means sly would put they're prices up even higher, or they put all the games on MUTV and then people would have to pay a subscription to that on top of slys already outrageous prices.


2.) 17 Sep 2013
17 Sep 2013 08:37:56
I think you'll find that kind of thing is reserved for teams like Barca and Madrid who are dripping with world class players and playing quality football.

{Ed002's Note - Referring to the original post, 25% of the TV broadcast monies is assigned to those clubs hosting live matches, so clubs are paid when a game is shown on television. Manchester United are contracted to the existing television deal. That will not change until a breakaway happens.

Referring to the previous comment from Jase, the TV revenue is critical to the survival of many clubs with EPL TV revenue to increase from this season. If you want England to go the way of Croatia you need to accept there will be far fewer high profile players coming in if you take away the TV revenue.}


3.) 17 Sep 2013
The reason not every game is televised is because if they were then attendances at the grounds would fall. In other countries they don't have this problem with the PL of course so they can show them all. It is the Premier League imposing the restriction in the UK in order to maintain attendances.
If you were a supporter of a team lower down the league would you find it fair that the bigger teams get more money from tv revenue because they are on more when they already have more money. I think the way its done is the fairest way for all clubs and helps make the PL competitive all the way down unlike some foreign leagues.


4.) 17 Sep 2013
No way should it change, look at how bad the Spanish league is in terms of debt and clubs on the verge of going out of business, our game and the germans is the right way of doing things in terms of tv revenue


5.) 17 Sep 2013
I am actually disgusted with what Barcelona and Real Madrid have done. They have ruined La Liga and made it so it will always be a two horse race. I wouldn't like us to do the same thing.


6.) 17 Sep 2013
If you go back a few years the spanish league used to be very competitive. Barcelona and real madrid routinely win the majority of their games 3 or 4 nil where as you just don't see that in the prem we are spoilt with the premiership as anyone can beat anyone on their day. The spanish league has become so predictable its a joke


7.) 17 Sep 2013
17 Sep 2013 11:57:05
Thanks Ed02 for the insight, I didn't fully understand the role the tv money plays for the smaller clubs. Obviously I didn't think it would have that much of an effect and would not want to force smaller clubs into administration, as that would just play into the hands of the sugar dadies (abramovich and mansour) who are ruining the game IMO. I would like to think that there is a way of reducing the amount of money players are paid, which I'm sure would be main expenditure for many smaller clubs, and the amount of tv revenue paid to the clubs, in turn making it cheaper for the fans who just want to watch football. Obviously this would be a perfect world which unfortunately we do not live in so in, it extremely unlikely that it is ever going to happen. Anyway Ed02 thanks for the info.
In response to welsh dragon, I can appreciate your point, and it would might affect the smaller clubs attendance but I don't think we would ever see old Trafford, anfield the emirates half empty, however on the off chance it was to happen, then perhaps it might convince the owners to lower ticket prices, and fans like my self would actually be able to afford to go to more than one match a year, in turn filling up the stadiums with fans who wouldn't normally be able frequent the games, as there is nothing like watching a match live.


8.) 17 Sep 2013
If all prem games are shown on TV, with less people paying to go to watch them, maybe the local town teams would see a rise in support and the lesser clubs will gain money from tickets, merchandise etc. Just depends when the live games are shown/scheduled.

Does anybody know if any research has been done into the transfer of main stream support to lower level football, linking it with TV games not being shown at 3pm on a Saturday?

I know quite a few people that have started to support their local conference team due to ticket pricing/petrol costs to follow their Prem team.