16 Aug 2013 19:51:13
new poster on site it worries me that a lot of the younger posters have no real reality of what it is like
to support the reds I go back to the early 70s when we used to be caged in at the Stretford end after being there all morning to pay at the gate like others have posted a good f a cup run was the highlight of the season relegation then followed but boy didnt. the doc give us a team to watch the most exiting team I think I have had the pleasure to watch the 80s came and Dave sexton and big Ron and still the highlight was the f a cup. then of course the late 80s and the boss came slow start for him but the old favorite the f a cup started it for him the rest as they say we all know is history.
my point is people who have not been through all this and know no different have been. spoilt and it is now expected to win every thing each year sign big names etc .
just remember we are a proud club with no divine right to win trophies year in year out yes it is nice don't get e wrong
all I am saying is this season get behind Dave and the boys if things don't go too well don't slag them off give them the support they need. and don't forget we have been so so lucky to have had what Alex. brought to the club if nothing this year fine it will b a transition season but like I say get behind the boys they would all die for the shirt well perhaps not Wayne
here's to a great season {Ed007's Note - Are you related to KLOOT by any chance? Welcome to the site buddy.}

1.) 16 Aug 2013
Also new poster - first went to OT in 1962 - and I was there every home match the season we got relegated & every match in the old 2nd division - what a season that was - visiting places like York City - great days - those days a trip to wembley was all we dreamt off (I try and forget the Southampton final) - and trips to Europe were very few - I did 3 - Ajax, Juventus & Ostend as a friendly (I never saw the match but that's a long and funny story) - anyway we do not have a right to win things every season & have been look to have had Sir A for so long - so get behind the team this season & especially David Moyes & show everyone what great supporters we are

2.) 16 Aug 2013
As a young fan myself, I get your point, since the worst years for me were the Arsenal invincibles followed by Chelsea, and that only lasted 3 years. Other than that, my time as a fan has been plain sailing.

3.) 16 Aug 2013
Big Jim Holtons after you

4.) 16 Aug 2013
Good post IMO.

Although I'm one of the new breed, having been a 'fan' since 91/92 and only really known success, I'm old enough and wise enough to know that we have no divine right to win things. Especially nowadays with all the money being thrown away by other, non self-sufficient clubs. To combat this we have to look to the long term, with a manager who will look to stick around, a continuity of staff and set up and bringing youth through when we can.

Let's all get behind the manager and the team whatever happens. Hopefully we can get 1 or 2 good purchases and put a real push on this season. But most important is that we are there or thereabouts for the foreseeable future on a regular basis. Consistency is key for us I think.

5.) 17 Aug 2013
Good post. Unfortunately, the 'youngsters' have only known success (that's not a criticism) so have not experienced the many years of no trophies / poor football (Sexton) some of us have. A lot of people will remember 1992 and losing out to Leeds but how about 1985 when we won our 1st 10 games under Big Ron. We won 13 of out 1st 15 games, but then only won 9 of the remaining 27. united never recover and that was the end for Atkinson.

On a similar point, I'm not sure the thrill of winning is quite what it was for me as the expectation is now so much higher. Rarely are we underdogs - beating Liverpool in finals and semi finals when they were ruling the roost was very sweet. Seeing Barcelona off with Maradona was incredible. Yet now I find myself less excited. It was great that we won the league last year but for me it was fairly flat. Perhaps it's just me

6.) 17 Aug 2013
Ajh
It's a really good point that, for me a lot of the excitement has gone out of the games when you just expect to win or even know it's no big deal if you loose as you will win the next one or 5
Jred

7.) 17 Aug 2013
Good post Big Jim I agree with all you say, I also travelled the coutry to watch the boys in the second division - York City away was memorable! I worked in Liverpool throughout the 80s and had to take merciless stick from the scousers but the level of success we had in the head to head matches with them made it all worthwhile.

So I agree, if it doesn't come together immediately with the new management team just stick with them and remember that SAF had a torrid time when he first arrived (who can forget Ralph Milne) and look what happened then.