01 Jul 2014 13:17:07
I very rarely pop over to the Liverpool page but somebody mentioned it so I just went over and saw this wonderful post from Big Al.

People go on about fee, fabregas was dearer, is.older lallana is far better IMO. Great signing

Big Al

I thought the stuff you said on the United site was just for a wind up to be honest Al, but seriously, better than Fabregas? It just doesn't need a comment that does it.


1.) 01 Jul 2014
I saw that one too. Next they'll be claiming that Lambert is a better player than Suarez!


2.) 01 Jul 2014
In terms of fitting the Liverpool system he is a better player. Fabregas obviously has quality but is lazy and doesn't press and work tirelessly like Lallana does. This is what Rodgers demands.

They are also I believe completely different types of players to compare.

And people calling Lallana 'Average' is quite frankly insulting your own team as he would walk into yours! 'Believe' also saying we have 2 better players than him in Sterling and Coutinho! Guess that shows how much you're declining.


3.) 01 Jul 2014
I don't see him even playing regularly for Liverpool

Countinho is a class player and should play
Henderson is playing some off his best football
Sterling is liverpools most exciting young talent
And well gerrard is gerrard and pool won't drop him


4.) 01 Jul 2014
01 Jul 2014 14:44:36
Why does u having 2 better players than lallana in your squad show we are declining mohawk? Surely it shows once again that, much like last season when u spent well over 25m 'improving' your defence, that when Liverpool spend they waste. Now I know your already thinking 'well every team makes transfer mistakes' but in all honesty Liverpool do this more than most, now and again u will find a great player i.e Torres or Suarez, but for every top player u find there's about four bad ones that preceded him and 4 bad ones that arrive after.

Lallana is decent but at mid 20's is not imo gunna improve much more, u have over spent imo on a squad player in a position I are fully stocked in!

Nothing suprises about big Al GDS, every Liverpool fan that pops over loves to call syd on his prediction last season but I remember AL frequently stating on here that not only will Lallana start for England but he will star for them! How did that go AL?

Mohawk I've seen ure petty jibes at EFC on thier page a while back and must say u a are 1 ain't ya lol!


5.) 01 Jul 2014
@ Aggers Mohawk

How does Liverpool already having two better players than Lallana possibly reflect on Manchester United? If you mean because Lallana would "walk into" our team, I tend to disagree. Lallana is best when played centrally and given license to roam, which is probably where he will play for Liverpool given his inflated price tag in order to try and influence the game. We already have Mata, Kagawa and Rooney who can fill that role in our team, all of whom are far superior players to Lallana (although Kags hasn't done it as often as he would have liked for us).

As for our decline, let me remind you that Liverpool were 7th in the 2012/13 season and managed to come 2nd last year (a success in their eyes despite an almighty collapse that blew the league title). Last season was a blip, we know it and better still, you know it too. That's why the Man Utd obsession continues across the country.

There is absolutely no reason why we can not do the same next season as LFC did this past season, or go one better and win the league. We have a better squad of players (most of them champions as little as 15 months ago) and are spending big money on fresh, young, fantastic players, money that we generate as the World's biggest football club. We also have a new manager who is proven at the highest level all over Europe.

I'd bet any money that Manchester United finish higher than Liverpool (minus Suarez and with Gerrard another year older) in the 2014/15 season.

I know one thing, if United are second with three games to go and two of them at home and don't win the league we will not insult our own intelligence by passing the season off as a success. That is a small club, loser's mentality.


6.) 01 Jul 2014
Believe - For a selling club like Liverpool second place is a massive achievement and something many of their fans will be telling their grandchildren about in years to come. Don't take that away from them!


7.) 01 Jul 2014
I meant top with three games to go.


8.) 01 Jul 2014
01 Jul 2014 15:45:55
I was over there yesterday, missed that post but I did see one where he said Suso is the best young midfielder in Europe, ahead of Pogba, Koke etc.

Needless to say I lol'd at that one!


9.) 01 Jul 2014
CTR, football banter is always about petty jibes. Whether it's the number of league titles you've won or number of European cups you have. You give some you take some :)

I don't believe it was so difficult to understand. Lallana usually plays on the left when at Southampton, and made the team of the year. Your allowed your opinions on him but he is quite clearly not average. He would be better than all your current wide players such as when kagawa plays there or nani and Valencia.

I don't think you'd all be saying this if he was set to join Man United. It just comes across as bitter.

From an unbiased point of view I can say that I believe you have signed two good players that will no doubt improve you.

Believe, you could well do what Liverpool done last season. Although I'm skeptical you have 'a better squad'. Your first 11 should be stronger and you haven't got the clueless Moyes.l any longer (unfortunately, rather enjoying his reign)

If United finished 2nd next season I'm sure you'd me very happy though! Given where you were last. As long as your team makes improvement every season I don't see why you shouldn't be pleased. We didn't claim real success as in a trophy, but certainly a lot closer to becoming a rival season in season out.


10.) 01 Jul 2014
And with the point of lallana being 'Average' yet he'd still get in your team. And saying we have 2 better players shows we have greater squad depth and not average like nani, Valencia and young in the ranks.


11.) 01 Jul 2014
Lallana will probably fit into a Rodgers team quite well and I expect he will be a success at Liverpool, and quite possibly worth the money. Is he a great player? No.

Accusing Liverpool of wasting money on transfers is a little rich. Bebe? Young? Fellaini? Anderson? Djemba Djemba, Kleberson, Veron, Even Mata has yet to show he's worth anywhere near what we paid for him. With a few exceptions United's transfer dealings since selling Ronaldo have been less than stellar.

Whether Lallana, Shaw or Herrera are worth it will ultimately be determined by the team's results and economic structure. That's all the matters, it's a subjective business. Real Madrid may be able to make 85m work for Bale, but another club couldn't, what ever the outcome.


12.) 01 Jul 2014
01 Jul 2014 16:52:32
Where in my post did I mention he was average Mohawk? I said he was decent!

How can u base an argument on how good he is in the same sentence as the words he USUALLY plays out om the left? So who is getting dropped for him on the left? Coutinho? Sterling?

Like I said he is a decent player! But imo its a lot of money for a squad player when u are fully stocked in that area and drastically need to improve your defence! Dnt u agree?

There has already been talk of replacing migs and that other lanky defender u brought for £10m (name escapes me) and then loaned straight out.

Its all banter and opinions mate, if u feel its a great deal for the club then no matter wot I or any1 says won't change your view. Its just mine that spending a large amount of money on him when apprently Sanchez is ment to sign to is a bit of a wase.

Lol gav, is that the same suso that continually keeps getting loans to bottom half league teams in europe? He has a point I meam wot is the likes of pogba doing really apart from starting and scoring in worldcup last 16 games!


13.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers, Lallana isn't average, I think he's a good player, but don't be fooled into thinking some of us are bitter. He is not a player I would have shouted about had he signed for us. A good player, but MU need to aim higher than Lallana. No offense!


14.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers Mohawk- I'm not sure why you're under the illusion that Lallana would get in to our team - but if I were you I would be more concerned about whether or not he will get into your team.

Personally I don't think he's any better than what you have and see him ending up being another squad player like Joe Allen. Considering you've blown the bulk of your transfer budget on him; that should be a pretty big worry too.

I'm sure you're chomping at the bit to reply pointing out that it's looking increasingly likely that you'll pick up 40-60m for Suarez; but if this is any indication of how Rodgers spends money I'm not sure if that's really of any consequence either. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of that money's been spent in advance on Lallana too.


15.) 01 Jul 2014
CTR

I wasn't specifically meaning you when I said 'Average' that is the opinions of others. l know you said he was decent.

Yes CTR for Southampton he USUALLY played on the left, but the great thing is he has flexibility. He can comfortably play on the right and centrally also. But in the position he played last season (On the left) he'd walk in for united. Whilst we have excellent young competition in reserve if needs be.

So he won't necessarily be taking the place of coutinho or sterling, he could fit in alongside them also. And as you know, it's a squad game.

I think a lot of people's judgement has been clouded by England's world cup performances. Lallana wasn't good at all, but every player who is managed by that man goes downhill. Sure thing is, you don't get in the team of the year if you don't have a bit about you.

The defence needs improving no doubt, which I'm sure will happen in the, coming weeks. We need a LB badly and a CB wouldn't go a miss either.


16.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers Afro - Is that the same PFA team of the year that has included world class players like Ashley Young (twice), Antonio Valencia, Nani, Glenn Johnson, Richard Dunne, Darren Fletcher, Pascal Chimbonda, James Milner and Scott Parker over the past five seasons?

He's had one passable season in the top flight and at 26 years of age is unlikely to get much better than he currently is. He rarely performs over 90 minutes and is subbed off more often than not. At £25m you've been well and truly mugged off by Southampton. I bet even Lallana (as an Everton fan) is having a little chuckle about it!


17.) 01 Jul 2014
And how long did it take Van Persie to have a passable season? He is a quality player now, but it took him forever to hit the 20 goal mark in the league. He's has perhaps had 3 passable seasons at the age of 30.

He has got better with age and there's no reason why Lallana can't also with the manager of the year at the helm :)


18.) 01 Jul 2014
01 Jul 2014 19:01:24
So u think he will fit along side coutinho and sterling? I feel sort for Henderson then mate, because he is gunna have to cover a hell of a lot of ground dnt u agree?

Yed he could do a job for us on the left ure right, I would swap him for young any day of the week. But to suggest this signing somehow shows how far we have fallen (your original point) is a bit off the mark.

Your sqaud is 'ok' not fantastic imo, the young players u talk about stepping up whem needed are? Ibe? 5 mins of 1st team football is it? Then? i'm afraid if your thinking liverpool signing Lallana is taking a forward step and suggesting the youngsters will play apart too, then maybe that shows u how far off the pace u really are mate.

U had ure chance and i'm afraid stevie me and ure team bottled it.


19.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers Afro -

RVP had shown enough to secure a move to a big club at the age of 21. Lallana is now 26 and still hasn't managed to secure a move to a big club.


20.) 01 Jul 2014
If your team finishes all the way down in 7th I think it suggests that you are the ones 'off the pace' :) Enjoy watching us on your Wednesday nights


21.) 01 Jul 2014
In the prem of course red seven. If we're not a big club, God knows what you're with less than half our European history :)


22.) 01 Jul 2014
LOL Redseven. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Lallana is a decent player - nothing more.

I personally don't think he is better than the Liverpool player's currently occupying the position he would like to play in the Liverpool team; but that is just my opinion.

None of the of the signings Liverpool have made thus far, will improve their first 11.


23.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers, Liverpool are not a big European club anymore. We are.

You might have history, but so have we; and ours is far more recent and illustrious.

Yeah - we will enjoy watching Brendan getting owned in the CL.


24.) 01 Jul 2014
Aggers Afro -

I'm not sure how you can still call Liverpool a big club - what with them having not won a domestic title for over 20 years!

To be fair though; second place last season was a great achievement for a selling club like Liverpool! McManaman, Owen, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and soon Suarez.


25.) 01 Jul 2014
Adam L is decent. But I wouldn't swap him for Mata, Rooney or Adnan and considering only two of them are likely to play at once for us I doubt we'd have been interested in him. If we didn't have other areas to address he'd have been a decent signing for the squad and that's it. Mind you, I don't think he'll be first choice at Liverpool unless Suarez leaves so it's a clkse call.