30 Sep 2013 11:04:47
With Fergie gone I think it has now highlitghted just how important he was. He won us 25-30 points a season getting the best out of average players and his never give up attitude.
With him not there anymore it has really highlighted just how bad some of these players really are.
The likes of Anderson, Nani, Buttner and Young should be moved on, they are just not good enough.
We need at least 3-4 players, and I mean real players of real quality.
In my opinion at least one new winger, one or two midfielders and a left back.
Im not going to get on Moyes back, I think that he deserves some time to try and get things right, we should really judge him on where we are in January and what kind of players he is going to bring into the club.
I have to admit it was terrible on Saturday and I came out of the ground completely gutted and deflated with the whole thing.

1.) 30 Sep 2013
Simmo

He has brought in Fellaini for 27.5 so let's see how he pans out this year. No excuses like new league, new country blah blah.

2.) 30 Sep 2013
It's a confidence issue more than anything Simmo. The pressure on Moyes is filtering down through the squad. We certainly need more players. I said Baines and Thiago plus Fellaini would have made a big difference this season. I was never a big fan of Fellaini like you and one or two others, but I did think he would solve part of the midfield issue. For me Thiago and Baines would have made us much stronger and the club failed to make these happen. Saturday the manager clearly played a weakened team and that came back to bite us on the ass.

3.) 30 Sep 2013
Wheeyy your back, where have you been?

4.) 30 Sep 2013
A weekend on the JD. Try and keep up ;)

5.) 30 Sep 2013
Syd you seem to be constantly skirting around the fact that Moyes is drowning and dragging the team down with him. He is failing at every possible level.

He failed in the transfer market, jettisoning SAF's targets and not being able to secure his own ones. He failed in the staffing department, ignoring SAF's advice and sacking a world class coaching team in favour of Everton nobodies. He has failed in tactics and team selection, playing an outdated rigid formation, consistently selecting the wrong mean and misjudging the opposition. He has failed in the media, flip flopping between having a squad capable of challenging on all fronts, and having a team lacking two or three in the starting 11 and a squad capable of competing with Europe's best. And worst of all he is failing his players, publicly undermining them, and refusing to hold his hand up and admit that he is the one getting things wrong.

It is a confidence thing, but not in the way you suggest. In the past we scooped up points because teams feared facing Fergie's United sides. Now we can see a huge change, teams are quickly realising that Moyes's United are beatable and the fear is no longer there. Teams are taking the game to us because they recognise that Moyes's tactics have blunted our attack and that our defence is ageing and lacking pace. It was so evident last weekend when we equalised: last season the opposition would have gone on the defensive, hoping to hold on for a draw, this year they feel like they can win the match because we lack the teeth to put them to the sword.

We probably aren't good enough to win in Europe and I would doubt that we will win the league with the current set-up. But there is no reason for the manager to be saying that in the media for any reason other than he wants to deflect blame from himself. But the blame is Moyes's and his alone: he saw the weaknesses in the squad and failed to act decisively.

And people are not judging Moyes on 6 games, we are judging him on the mediocracy he has produced for the last decade at Everton, and has brought with him to United.

6.) 30 Sep 2013
30 Sep 2013 12:55:46
I just don't get why peopl think Moyes needs time, more time and more time after every defeate?
1. he is coming from the same league
2 he is an experienced manager in the EPL.
3. he has taken over the champions, not a club from the bottom league to turn the corner.
4. he had amble time in the transfer market to buy players.
5. and we lost to clubs whom we never lost in the past.
6.How is time going to help him, If his buys and some players continues to produce average performance?
7. He needs to get his formation right.

7.) 30 Sep 2013
Moyes' biggest mistake for me was not sanctioning the Thiago move. Baines, Thiago and Fellaini would have improved our weakest areas. That being said he will make mistakes and he will need to learn from them quickly. He needs time and needs to be judged at the end of the season.

Fans have every right to voice their concerns, but for me it will be MU's downfall if it continues. Fans booing and getting irate will not benefit MU in any way. People have every right to an opinion, but it's what will ruin us in the long run if it continues. We need to give him a full season, if he fails then people can act.

8.) 30 Sep 2013
Re - 'Where has Sydney been'

Sydney, you got two logins now or something?

Think I'd find it a bit creepy if someone else was posting using the login 'where has Andrew B been'

What's the story with this?

9.) 30 Sep 2013
Moyes should have bought a creative cm we have struggled in this area for years .
But to be fair many on this site wanted a Defensive cm

10.) 30 Sep 2013
Syd, that has been trotted out at various stages since the Glazers took over. We shouldn't criticise their unethical buying of the club, their lack of investment in transfers, their focus on financial success rather than on pitch success and so on, because our criticism will only harm the club. But the counter balance is that the management of the club as a whole is already damaging our chances of sustained success, and we shouldn't ever turn a blind eye to this.

Now I can concede that there is very little fans can do about the Glazer ownership. But if we see that the team is being managed by someone incapable of doing the job, then I think we have a responsibility to question the wisdom in allowing that person to rest on the laurels of their 6 year contract. I am not advocating booing at the ground, that is silly and childish. And I do actually accept that Moyes will have at least one year at the helm to prove himself. But this year is a probation period and so far Moyes is failing badly.

I think fans need to let the club know that they are not willing to turn a blind eye to incompetent management, especially when the manager starts to publicly criticise his players. That way, if Moyes does not get his act together in the next 12 months, the club will be left with no choice but to bring in someone up to the task.

11.) 30 Sep 2013
I agree that the fans have every right to ask questions of their manager, but the more the fans overreact, the more pressure will be piled onto the manager and players. Criticism will not help our season, it will damage it.

12.) 30 Sep 2013
Syd
It's called pressure if they can't handle it there at the wrong club

13.) 30 Sep 2013
Jred, we wanted a REALLY GOOD defensive midfielder.

14.) 30 Sep 2013
AndyB
Watching us this season and the lack if possession and creativity do you think it is a DM we are missing?

15.) 01 Oct 2013
Jred, short answer is yes, but that's only part of it because like you say we also lack creativity and someone who can control possession and boss the game.

its the schweinsteiger and Martinez, busquets and xavi, Keane and scholes we are lacking more than anything else, although I think the problem is even bigger than that .