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05 Jul 2018 09:34:57
Papers now linking us with Shaqiri.
Him and Shaw would be unstoppable in the cafeteria.
1.) 05 Jul 2018 11:33:52
If Shaw got in first. There would nothing left in the cafeteria.
2.) 05 Jul 2018 11:49:42
I’d say they both try to go through at the same time, and just get stuck.
3.) 05 Jul 2018 12:29:46
Leave the jokes, guys. For 12mln tell me a better quality right winger who happily will be a squad player. And do not forget that we are playing without right wing for years.
{Ed001's Note - happily be a squad player? He left Bayern because he refused to be a squad player.}
4.) 05 Jul 2018 13:09:07
I mean his career has been a litany of failed auditions at big clubs. He ended up at Stoke where he put in no effort. That’s about his level - struggling EPL club where he can get by on natural ability without having to work.
5.) 05 Jul 2018 13:22:55
Not sure he wanted to leave, more like Bayern wanted to sell.
{Ed001's Note - yes, because he refused to knuckle down and be a squad player.}
6.) 05 Jul 2018 13:55:28
A simple question. what if a gamble clicked?
7.) 05 Jul 2018 15:38:35
Always tried to back jose and give him the benefit of the doubt but if the rumours about Shaqiri are true I’ll have lost all faith, don’t care if its 12 million or 12 bob he’s not worth it, i watched him against the swedes and i bet he didn’t run a bloody mile all game and that's at the World Cup.
8.) 05 Jul 2018 17:32:01
Absolute no to shaq IMO. Wont be happy with what we probably wpuld offer and he'd be leaving again next season.
9.) 05 Jul 2018 19:54:58
He’s failed everywhere, why on Earth would we sign him?
10.) 05 Jul 2018 20:02:26
Make a good door stop?
11.) 05 Jul 2018 20:51:35
Last week some folk on here were saying shaqiri is better than mata and jessie. 😂😂😂😂😂😊.
12.) 06 Jul 2018 01:06:08
Talented player but needs a team to be built around him, and he's not talented or applied enough to get that at a top club. Plus, he personifies the opposite of a "Jose player"! I wouldn't pick him ahead of Lingard, Alexis, Mata, Rashford, or the pre-slump Martial. I'd also rather Pogba play further forward with another midfielder in behind him than in a 2 with Shaqiri as 1 of the attacking 4. A big fat no from me. He'll probably end up joining a smaller club. Liverpool perhaps?
14 Jul 2017 11:22:42
Reported in Spain that Madrid are back in for De Gea, and he wants to leave. Price being mooted is £50m. Take it with a pinch of salt.
But if it is true, then this should be fun. If they wanted £70m for their backup striker, then how much is one of the top keepers in the world worth?
1.) 14 Jul 2017 11:24:47
£100m thanks Real.
2.) 14 Jul 2017 11:41:18
Pickford 30 mil for an upcoming keeper. De gea the best in the world needs to be 100 mil +.
3.) 14 Jul 2017 11:46:08
Minimum 100 million.
4.) 14 Jul 2017 12:00:42
All depends for all we know there might have been a gentleman's agreement for him to leave made last summer and a figure agreed. That figure then would look cheap by today's prices. Time will tell.
5.) 14 Jul 2017 12:02:45
£60mill+Kroos please thank you.
6.) 14 Jul 2017 12:03:17
Toni Kroos and £60m.
7.) 14 Jul 2017 12:26:33
with no prior agreement in place between us and RM i would say £95mil and make him the most expensive player in the world - for the short term anyway.
8.) 14 Jul 2017 12:30:08
If he wants out it will be hard to stop. But it must be on our terms. Perhaps we could get the opportunity to talk to bale or kroos if jose wants them.
A question i asked on another thread would we need to sign a keeper or would be go work romero and Perriera?
9.) 14 Jul 2017 12:35:17
Easily worth £100m today. Kroos and 60 would be a good return but this isn't footy manager. I'd love us to just stick 2 fingers up to Madrid and tell Mendes he needs to be loyal to us given the recent business we've done with him.
10.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:08
Haven't we already rejected a 60 million bid.
11.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:41
Don't think so bolger.
12.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:43
Let's be realistic with the valuation, whilst the money at the minute for outfield players is crazy we are not going to get more than £60/ 70m for DDG. Keepers are important but not valued as highly as strikers.
At the end of last year I thought Mourinho for all his talk would have been happy with DDG going at a good price and starting season with Romero and the pereira who he thinks will be world class in a few years.
If DDG goes Hopefully we start conversations about Bale coming the other way.
13.) 14 Jul 2017 14:42:21
Unfortunately I think it's inevitable that De Gea will end up at Madrid. I've said before that it has the feel of the Fabregas to Barcelona to it and will eventually happen. I just hope we get the maximum amount for him. Jose seems to be getting decent fees for all the outgoings so far. I'd say between £80-90 million and he's yours. Then go after Jack Butland.
14.) 14 Jul 2017 14:46:48
Brad, historically goal scorers command the big fees. But with Liverpool rumoured to be happy to pay £70m million for Keita who's had one season in the bundesliga, why not stick for £100m for the worlds best goal keeper?
15.) 14 Jul 2017 15:09:35
Even if the player wants to go, we don't have to do the deal. It is feasible to hold the player to his contract. DDG seems like a good professional and he's already at one of the biggest clubs in the world with Champions League football.
However, I really rate Romero. I was at OT when he made his debut and I thought then he looked like an accomplished keeper. I have no doubt he would be an excellent number one for us.
If DDG is sold that leaves an interesting conundrum with Perriera. If I was Jose I would be asking myself, if Romero got injured is Perriera ready to step up straight away?
I think as that we need to reset the balance of our relationship with Real Madrid. They need to understand that they cannot just help themselves to any of our players and that if they are not prepared to be reasonable with players we want to buy from them, we are prepared to walk away and find an alternative.
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05 Jun 2025 16:32:44
Ed001, today it's being reported that Man Utd have had a bid rejected for Mbuemo. Reports say that Utd's offer is below what they know Brentford want for their player. Things like this seem relatively common in football transfers, but rare in other forms of sale negotiations.
Would it not be easier for everybody involved, if representatives from the clubs to sat down together and negotiated an agreeable fee?
It just seems so silly for United to publicly put in a bid they know will be rejected, instead of talking to Brentford privately about buying Mbuemo. Or am I missing something?
{Ed001's Note - they usually do, but the media like to make up stories to get clicks.}
1.) 05 Jun 2025 20:34:35
I wish we’d started negotiations like this for the likes of Antony and Hojlund. We ended up paying way over the odds for players who seemingly, no one else was after.
2.) 05 Jun 2025 23:36:30
Mostly people making up stuff Danny. And I doubt utd are giving up to the minute details of bids to random journos.
3.) 06 Jun 2025 07:40:26
Danny
It is certainly not “rare” to offer less in a negotiation. Normal business practice. That’s why it is a negotiation. We may not barter or negotiate as much in shops, but I will bet most will say how much if I buy two. In business deals it is normal.
4.) 06 Jun 2025 11:34:32
Id love to be selling stuff to you Danny?.
27 Apr 2025 23:23:44
The only good thing about Liverpool winning the league again is that supporters will finally have to stop singing that '20 times 20 time Man Utd' song.
It has gotten more embarrassing with every passing year, and to hear Old Trafford still belting it out when we've gone over a decade without a league title was absolutely pathetic.
1.) 29 Apr 2025 00:27:32
So have we not won it 20 times anymore then? Why would we stop singing it, we’ve won it 20 times, should the fans stay quiet until we win the league again?
21 Apr 2025 11:42:22
Watching the game yesterday, I began thinking about us not buying Harry Kane in 2023.
During the summer of 2023, the club bought Onana, Hojlund, and Mount for about £150m.
That summer we were told that Harry Kane was interested in coming here. We had just finished 3rd in the league, and Kane was rumoured to want to break Shearer's goal record.
But Spurs wanted him to go abroad, and were looking for a higher fee from any EPL buyer. In the end he went to Bayern for just under £100m.
For me, this is one of the biggest cock ups in the club's recent history.
If the club kept De Gea and didn't sign Onana, we would have a better keeper.
Mount has been permanently injured, and a complete waste of money.
Hojlund was nowhere near ready for this level, let alone to be the main striker at a club of united's size.
The money spent on these three could have signed Kane, a genuine world class scorer. At the time the club claimed that they couldn't justify paying what Spurs were asking. His fee would have been far easier to justify than £150m wasted on a downgrade in goal, a second choice am who's always injured, and a striker who would be better suited to our youth team.
{Ed001's Note - even just keeping the money and de Gea would have been better. I can see the thinking behind replacing him, but not with a clown who was known as a clown before you signed him.}
1.) 21 Apr 2025 12:10:23
Mount is the biggest example of a “nothing player”, genuinely don't see why he's so highly rated, even considering injuries, when he plays his output has been zero in terms of assists and goals.
2.) 21 Apr 2025 12:18:03
Ed001. It was an absolutely incompetent decision. Degea has a few limitations as a modern keeper, but Onana has these same limitations along with being much much worse in every other way.
{Ed001's Note - he is among the worst I have ever seen in the top flight of professional football. He has not even got near to mastering the basics of goalkeeping.}
3.) 21 Apr 2025 12:39:17
Danny - Hindsight is a wonderful thing but it’s hard to disagree with you!
I thought we did ok yesterday, the young kids Amass and Fredricson were excellent and I think if we had a decent CF we win that game comfortably. How many games have we said that this season?
In line with what you’ve said would we be better off blowing most of our budget on Gyokeres in the summer? I appreciate he’ll probably have other suitors but if we can somehow win the Europa League maybe that might just give us a shot?
Should we be spending our money on just 1 or 2 quality additions that can come straight into the first team and make an immediate impact. How many more points would we have this season for example if we had a competent CF and GK?
4.) 21 Apr 2025 13:15:21
DLIB,
I do agree that a goalkeeper and a top striker improve this team 10 fold. We have cover in other positions, I actually think there is a few combinations in the back 3 that will work, Fredricsen has also put himself in there now, Amad will be back and I think will play wing back. We have Amass, Dorgu and Leon coming in, if Casemiro stays then I’m not sure we desperately need anyone in the middle although obviously always open to improvement there, so you could justify a top top striker and a goalkeeper that can actually stop shots would be huge for us.
Then supplement that with players in other positions depending on how much money we can bring in from sales, maybe a quality 10 that fits the system if Antony, Rashford or Garnacho are sold. This season has been all about Ruben working out who can play the system and who can’t, Hojlund has proved he cannot and should be moved on but other players who perhaps looked out of their depth are actually starting to improve, but results are not as goalkeeper saves no shots and our striker scores no goals.
I don't think for a second we will only sign 2 players, i think / hope we will sign more but i'm confident for next season if we got 2 players.
5.) 21 Apr 2025 14:13:17
I think that the two biggest issues the club have are:
1. The goalkeeper is a liability. He simply cannot be trusted.
2. We don’t have a single outright goal scorer.
I don’t think it’s hindsight to say that only one of these issue existed in the summer of 2023.
We had a top class keeper who was not good with his feet.
We didn’t have an outright goal scorer.
At the time I said that if there was any possibility of signing Kane, we needed to take it, regardless of cost. There are so few top class strikers today, that you need to snap one up if he’s available.
We didn’t. Instead we traded a reliable keeper for the worst keeper I have seen at the club.
Bought an attacking mid that had no place in our starting 11.
And a kid with a handful of games in Italy to be our main striker.
This isn’t hindsight. This is watching someone drive straight into a brick wall, shouting for them to stop, and being completely unsurprised when they smash into it.
6.) 21 Apr 2025 15:46:54
Not hindsight at all a blind man mustve scouted Hoijlund and Onana 72mill for a striker with 9 goals was insane still lined THs brothers pockets that's the main thing manager was happy.
7.) 21 Apr 2025 16:21:42
Danny - I was actually agreeing with you but there are two sides to every story and hindsight always provides the context not available at the time.
We must remember these signings came on the back of a 3rd place finish, a league cup victory and an FA Cup final. At the time most believed EtH was the man to take the Club forward and Rashford had just become the first Utd player to score 30 goals in a single season since RvP.
Many argued that we needed a ball playing GK, many speculated this would be transformative, some even said that signing a new ball playing GK would help the team score more goals.
Who knows if Levy would have sold Kane to Man Utd? Who knows if Kane even wanted to join us? Some questioned the logic of spending so much money on a player approaching their 30’s. It was a complicated and difficult transfer to complete and not everyone agreed he was the right man. Not because of his quality, but there were concerns about the transfer fee, his wages, his age and even his injury record.
Hojlund was well rated at the time and seen as a CF with potential for growth and improvement.
The Mount signing was a touch perplexing with no obvious place for him in the team and a dubious injury record but again many speculated EtH was going to move towards two 8’s with Mount and Bruno in midfield?
If you argued at the time that the Club should go all out for Kane, no matter the cost or complexity of the deal and shouldn’t be targeting a younger CF to lead the line for Man Utd or replacing De Gea with Onana, that despite a excellent performance in a Champions League final was in fact a calamity waiting to happen, then that was incredible insight but at the time many couldn’t stand De Gea and many were not totally convinced about Kane for differing reasons not to mention Spurs reluctance to sell him to another Premier League side.
It looks so obvious now I completely agree but there were other factors to consider at the time and that’s all I meant by hindsight.
8.) 21 Apr 2025 17:44:11
Good post dlib.
Give it 18 months and the club will be in a much better position on and off the pitch.
Imo we have an excellent young coach some very promising young players already in and around the 1st team in mainoo, heaven, garnacho amass, amad yoro durogu, collyer obi . With another 2 or 3 behind these. All young players under 23 with some still in their teens.
9.) 21 Apr 2025 17:58:11
Am perplexed by Onana. At times he is really really good but then at others oh dear. Bottom line he is not consistent enough and has had enough time to prove himself and not succeeded.
Re Kane and another forward it's obvious that we need a top class centre forward and again puzzling that the club should feel an untried 22yr old would be good enough to lead the line at a club like ours. The reality is that we need two not one too centre forward. What happens eg if we buy Goekeres and he gets injured within a few games? We will be stuffed again
We also have to sign a midfielder who is creative and can control the tempo of the game. Bruno is by far our most creative player and if he gets injured we will suffer too.
.
Appreciate it's not easy for the club to find enough too talent and be able to sign them within the financial constraints that exist but the world is a big place and there must be players out there for us to sign.
10.) 21 Apr 2025 18:13:56
Salford you're completely right about the need for a CM. On Onana though I think it's clear he lacks a lot of the basics. He can make saves near his body and can execute passes well given time. The latter is like a lot of our players e. g. Maguire who look good in certain situations but are fundamentally flawed.
I would be very surprised if a GK isn't targeted this summer alongside a CM, a 10 and a striker. Personally I hope we go for Kelleher. More than good enough, is PL proven, hungry to prove himself, and should be affordable given just one year left on his contract (I think! )
11.) 21 Apr 2025 18:18:33
Salford,
I must have missed when he’s looked good.
12.) 21 Apr 2025 18:52:17
I am not convinced you can mention Gyokeres in same breath as Kane, he will be another unknown in the premier league.
We certainly need 2 strikers we certainly need a GK along with a CB and Ugarte is nowhere near the level required either, not sure 1-2 players gets anywhere near the required level, but it certainly helps.
13.) 21 Apr 2025 20:55:56
What are our youth keepers like?
We have to realise, we might find a buyer for Onana. Do we have any stock coming through? Think we flogged Vitek for a pittance, which was stupid.
14.) 21 Apr 2025 20:39:03
Don Red
I also wondered if Kelleher might be an option for us better than Onana
BUT Liverpool have decided on someone else as their number two keeper so what does that say about him. Is he really good enough for us?
{Ed025's Note - Kelleher wants first team football Salford and hes well aware that if Alisson stays thats not going to be possible mate at Liverpool, but he will want assurances about game time whoever he goes to..
15.) 21 Apr 2025 20:40:24
GDS2. It's easy to overlook the times Onana has been good because too often he is poor and human nature is to remember negatives before positives.
16.) 21 Apr 2025 22:23:40
Perhaps but I think good goalkeeping in consistency and he doesn’t have it and never has.
08 Mar 2025 10:41:26
I’m not convinced Mazraoui works as a wing back. Has been good defensively, but I don’t see him bursting down the line on the attack. Still, I’d play him over Dalot any day of the week.
I have a bit more appreciation for Ugarte too. He’s young and playing in a new league, mostly in a makeshift midfield two. I’d like to see him alongside Bruno more often. I think they could work if Bruno learns some positional discipline.
Other than that, it would be beyond stupid to sack Amorim without at least giving him a fighting chance to test his system with better players.
1.) 08 Mar 2025 12:35:37
I was interested to hear troy deenys take on things yesterday on talksport - never a fan of United but he said Amorim needs a pre season and a couple of buys suitable for what he wants to do- ok that's stating the obvious . but the interesting part was comparing UTD to Crystal Palace- he said Glasner and Amorim are very similar in their style of play but the big difference is e.g Sarr v Garnacho . Sarr said recently Glasner told him no more going out to the touchline you play 10 yards in and you go box to box up one strip of the pitch and that's it- he told Eze exactly the same on the left- as Eze was very central - Now Sarr and Eze are having great seasons and palace are improving -because they have adapted and do plenty of defensive work now and that was Deenys point, if Amorim can get 7 players to play exactly how he wants we will see big improvemnets as he showed with his Sporting team - big question is firstly can players adapt, garnacho, mount, Mainoo were mentioned or can he get the right players in, if he can answer this positively then he thought United could really improve next year .
2.) 08 Mar 2025 17:14:52
I get no one wants to lose and we do more often that not this season but there is no point like Amorim said to change how he wants to play short term to look 10 percent better
You play how you want to go from day 1 anyone that doesn’t suit and can’t adapt they are replaced
This group of players have not performed in back 4 for years if it’s been 4-3-3 4-2-3-1 4-4-2 they are simply not good enough
Ten hag came in and threw he system out 2 games in after back to back defeats at the start of the season
We just don’t have woke positions that are key to this system to work yet and it doesn’t help when the forwards don’t score enough.
3.) 08 Mar 2025 20:20:04
"We don't have woke positions". The club has problems but DEI is a new one to add to the mix.
4.) 08 Mar 2025 23:56:09
Bolger
What in the blue haze of farce are 'Woke positions'?
5.) 09 Mar 2025 23:01:48
How do you no the way Amorin wants to play will be any good surely if players have to adapt so should the manager even in the short term till he gets a couple of players in . So your saying THs much vaunted hugely expensive open heart surgery left the patient flat lined and now Amorin will need hundreds of millions as well to get his "style" up and running couldn't make it up more years in "transition" and excuses for failure rinse and repeat.
05 Mar 2025 13:49:01
If the stories about Manioo's wage demands are in any way accurate, I can't get my head around the balls of young players. A talented young man, obviously. But his form has dropped off a cliff this season.
He's an uneasy fit in Amorim's system too. Not disciplined enough to play cm, or productive enough as a number 10. You'd think that this would push him toward more modest demands. Prove that he's a key player, and then renegotiate for a bigger contract. Instead, it looks like he's talking his way out of the club. With the current financial rules, and the bonuses from selling academy players, he's making himself a more valuable transfer candidate by the day.
1.) 05 Mar 2025 15:07:03
If true, there is no way on earth the club should be going anywhere near £180k a week for him.
You’re right that he doesn’t seem to fit any role in the RA system. If that’s the demands of the player then I’d be fine with the club cashing in during the summer. He needs to actually prove something before being paid that type of wage.
2.) 05 Mar 2025 15:28:29
Pure spin by the Club in order to manipulate the fans so they can justify selling him in the summer. His contract expires in 2027 with the option of a further year. Certainly no immediate rush to get this sorted, especially considering Amad came within 6 months of his contract expiring!
Lenny Yoro has a base salary of £115k per week with bonuses taking this up to £145k per week! It’s reasonable Mainoo could expect similar in any negotiations.
Don’t fall for the propaganda designed to alienate a player who the Club know they can sell for huge profit, especially when there is no immediate rush to negotiate a new deal!
Mainoo is an hugely talented academy player who scored in last seasons FA Cup final against our biggest rivals. If we are seriously considering selling players like Mainoo and trying to manipulate the fans by making private contract negotiations public the Club is finished.
In any case why are we commenting on Mainoo when we have players like Mount, Shaw and Casemiro stealing a living. Let’s keep the focus where it should be, incompetent owners and useless senior professionals!
3.) 05 Mar 2025 17:36:33
I think his injury record is more of a concern at the moment, missing 35 games in two years. Did Ten Hag become over reliant on him using him too much and he is paying the consequences now?
4.) 05 Mar 2025 17:46:21
DLIB, sense!
SJR and his cohort will do anything they can to get the wages down, to make them more PSR compliant and without doubt, they see Mainoo, Garnacho and the like sellable assets that will make them money in the long run, no doubt.
This is how we works on every level of business. He is a snake.
5.) 05 Mar 2025 18:35:58
offcourse grim its all eth fault including the leaks in the roof. only if he had hired I will fix it now. The fan base is so desperate to believe in amorim changing our fortunes. Watch the football we play, that's the best measure of the guy not noise.
6.) 05 Mar 2025 19:26:56
Last year “poor” ETH had a raft of injuries to deal with, had a squad of players who allegedly didn’t understand his system and it was a process that would take some time. Oh and the football was bloody awful.
This year it’s Amorims fault.
How the leopards have changed their spots!
Let’s see if we can break another unwanted record and have the most managers in a 10 year period.
Wash, rinse, repeat……….
7.) 05 Mar 2025 21:40:41
Very saleable asset hope we don't but I'd rather we didn't but if we need to we should not be afraid to sacrifice any player for the greater good.
8.) 05 Mar 2025 21:59:43
Personally I could not care less if Mainoo and Garnacho are sold, I have seen nothing in either that makes me want to pin my hopes on they are the future, if they cannot be sold to raise funds for more suitable players than so be it, Mainoo is far too slow and not got the legs of a complete midfielder at the top level anyway…….
9.) 05 Mar 2025 22:05:05
I don’t agree DLIB. He’s a lad with less than 50 first team appearances, a patchy injury record, in the middle of a fairly big dip in form.
The wages he’s claimed to be looking for is close to the likes of Saka for Arsenal and Trent for Liverpool. Key players for their respective sides when those contracts were negotiated. Manioo has shown nothing to indicate that he’s that quality of player.
It may be the case that the club are briefing against him, but it’s also clear that he’s holding out for more money than the club are willing to offer. Yoro was brought from another club, with other sides interested in him. His wages are a reflection of that. Amad is a fairer comparison. He was one of our most important players prior to his injury, and signed for a reported £100,000 per week. I rate him more than Manioo, and if Manioo is looking for higher wages than that, it’s better to get rid.
Just because the club are being grifted out of massive wages by the usual suspects doesn’t mean that they should exacerbate it by paying a kid with less than a season (taking his injuries into account) of first team experience an inflated wage. It’s farcical IF he thinks he’s worth that much, and the club shouldn’t pay it.
10.) 05 Mar 2025 22:38:59
What the greater good? Money towards paying off the interest on the debt repayments? Clubs don’t succeed by selling their best players and especially not the best prospect to come through the academy in years.
Why stop there, just sack all the staff and all the players and sell old DVD’s to make money. The Club is a laughing stock run by idiots and what’s worse we have fans who lap up and believe the rhetoric!
Now Maino’s not good enough when he was the best young midfielder in the world a few months ago what has happened to this Club.
11.) 06 Mar 2025 07:12:08
Dlib there are lots of instances of clubs selling their best players to develop. Recently liverpool, and arsenal have done so.
What is your proposed solution to our financial crisis?
12.) 06 Mar 2025 09:33:13
Well hang on just a minute, if he is United best player and best prospect, we might as well turn the lights off now and all go home!
He never ever been the best young midfielder in the world, that’s a bit of a stretch even by an ardent red specced United supporter.
13.) 06 Mar 2025 10:23:04
It feels like you’re trying to deflect from the point.
Do you think that a young player with less than 50 first team appearances deserves to be paid a wage in line with established key players in other teams?
I don’t, and if that means selling him, so be it. The club’s wage structure is farcical and unsustainable. As you pointed out, there are players grifting massive wages. Paying a young player who, in terms of actual football, has done nothing, close to £200,000 a week just continues the trend of stupidity. It has to stop somewhere.
14.) 06 Mar 2025 13:13:55
Tumble - The owners are a disgrace, they are the cause of our financial problems and Ineos are the enablers.
How about if SJR really loves the Club so much he’s invests billions into the Club to help ease our financial problems? He’s an alleged Utd supporter after all.
There is a big difference between selling your best players like Coutinho who wanted to leave and they got top dollar for and re invested back into the squad which I presume your are referring and selling your best young players in order to re pay interest on the debt or compensate for revenue loses!
German - Is he not one of the best midfielders in the world? Name me the other 19 year old CM that are better or have more potential and that was the assessment of thousands of our own fans only a few months ago not my words!
Ineos and the Glazers are not trying to win or return us to the top! They are making cuts and exploring selling players in order to compensate for our new financial position, which they have created. If you think this is acceptable as the Glazers watch on with well over £1.2b in their back pockets whilst the Club and the Team suffer that’s your prerogative!
15.) 06 Mar 2025 16:33:56
So your solution is for someone to give the club their money.
Pathetic. You just want hand outs. Who paid for your house? You or your neighbour.
Totally pathetic outlook.
16.) 06 Mar 2025 16:35:52
Do you think he has hundreds of millions of his own money in cash? If you do then you don't understand finance at all. In fact I'd say it's very obvious that you don't from years of reading your posts. Beggerman.
17.) 06 Mar 2025 20:48:26
Danny I’m just not convinced Mainoo is demanding £180k per week that’s my point. Call me cynical but I think it could be an attempt by the Club to alienate the player and turn some fans against him paving the way for a sale in the summer. Maybe I wrong but by all accounts Mainoo is a sensible and professional young player. I personally feel he should be paid in line with other promising young players such as Yoro and Amad. His contract still has 3 years to run my point is more about why are these stories in the press. I think we should be supporting our young players and not turning on them (I’m not saying you are) when we don’t know all the facts. I don’t like the idea of the Club selling its best young players.
If it later transpires he won’t sign a new contract and demands top dollar then the Club have a decision to make but his contract runs until 2027 with the option of another year so surely there is plenty of time for negotiation.
18.) 06 Mar 2025 23:08:31
180k for a player who’s what 19 and has not been consistently performing.
I’m sorry but if he’s demanding those wages if he telling him to look for a new club
Contract is till 2027 with an option for another year
The balls on him and his agent fair play but if we are trying to change the structure this is not the way to do it.
Look at rashford sancho case and Antony, Mount all on over 200k a week and 3 of them are not at the club and the other 2 are not playing regular.
Big mistake if they give him 180k.
19.) 07 Mar 2025 00:13:47
Dlib…. He would not even make the top 10 in the world…. you seriously need to readjust your barometer for rating best in the world…….
20.) 07 Mar 2025 01:44:46
Wage negotiations are the same in most places. Unions or in this case an agent asks for far more than they expect to get and hope to meet somewhere. If they ask for 180 and the club offer 80k there will be middle ground. It’s a usual dance.
Our problem is that idiots in the previous regime panicked, thought they would be unpopular if someone left, then gave out ridiculous wages. We know who.
Denis Law, as I said on here previously, was famously put on the transfer list over wage demands. Mainoo isn’t worth 180k a week yet, nowhere near. If he wants to play for the shirt then he will take a decent but far less offer. However, no player should be unsellable so if he messes about put him available for transfer and look to the next young player. That also gives a clear message. If he wants to stay he will. It’s an honour to play for this shirt and whilst I don’t deny him good money, greed doesn’t sit well with a club built on Northern Working class people values.
That doesn’t mean I want to sell him but there has to be balance which needs to move away from the club giving inflated wages which are not earned, after all who do they think they are, train drivers?
21.) 07 Mar 2025 10:10:58
Good post redman I agree with all of that.
Danny Pughnited's rumour replies
13 Jun 2025 14:43:09
I don’t think it’s hustling. I suspect that we were offering him higher wages, and that’s why he was interested in coming here. But with Frank at Spurs, and Son likely off to Saudi, Spurs can offer him something similar. With the player open to both offers, Brentford are obviously going to want a bidding war.
When Mbeumo said we were his preferred destination, it was obvious that money was the deciding factor.
07 Jun 2025 17:45:17
Huge window so, with Liverpool and City spending big, I can see Arsenal falling further behind. Feels like Arteta has missed his chance to win a league title.
United are going to really struggle to get anywhere near top four too.
07 Jun 2025 17:37:42
Are Liverpool going to be able to sign a striker ed001?
I suspect that they’re going to offload a few players too, but with spending close to £200m sorting out Wirtz and the fullbacks, do they have enough to sign a top striker too?
{Ed001's Note - there has always been money available, Klopp was too loyal to his players to replace them until too late. Slot just doesn't have that loyalty right now.}
25 Mar 2025 12:36:49
I think we should move forward with the idea of the Sancho Cup.
Heard it somewhere online. One off match between United and Chelsea at Wembley after the season ends. Loser gets Sancho. It’s the fairest way. Imagine how hard players would fight to win?
21 Feb 2025 18:26:30
Shappy, they gave ETH a 1 year extension (adding to his compensation), sacked some of his coaching staff in the summer (compensation), hired new coaches on multi-year contracts and sacked them after a few months (more compensation) . Then sacked the sporting director because he thought hiring Amorim was the wrong decision (even more compensation) . Sticking with ETH was the first mistake that triggered all the rest. It was a flagrant waste of money.
Danny Pughnited's banter replies
12 Jun 2025 18:33:11
I actually think he fits the system because he operates best as a wide number 10. The problem is that he doesn’t have the right attitude.
At Villa he worked really hard. He was selfish on the ball, but put in effort all over the pitch. At City, he clearly worked hard to adapt to what Pep wanted, but hasn’t been arsed since the treble. Pep can’t trust him, and everything he does on the pitch seems laboured.
10 Jun 2025 21:19:12
I think the two attacking players were in for, and the one we’ve already signed, show that Amorim has recognised that creating chances and taking them have been a massive issue.
We’ve been almost completely reliant on Bruno to create chances. In the system, the two number 10s are supposed to be the biggest creative influences. But for us, they’ve been almost non-existent. Even Bruno seems to create more from deeper. Having players that can operate in that space will help the team be a lot more dangerous going forward, and having a clinical finisher should encourage them to get the ball into the box too.
From what I’ve seen, Amorim’s system works when the wing backs and number 10s drag the defence out of position. Those players will give him a much better chance to get it working. However, I’m still not convinced that the defence is good enough. Especially with Onana in goal.
10 Jun 2025 12:35:49
I don’t understand why any player would think that club owners are gentlemen.
03 Jun 2025 19:44:40
Nobody doubts his attitude, but he hasn’t shown enough ability to play for a top side. This is the club’s fault. The could have paid over £100m for Harry Kane, and kept DeGea. Instead, they spent money on Hojlund and Onana.
03 Jun 2025 14:16:36
With Chuna and possibly Mbeumo, I could see a slight shift in formation.
Bruno as a false 9, with Chuna and Mbeumo playing higher and cutting inside. This would give an extra body in midfield, and give us two goal threats from wide. Similar to how Liverpool played with Firmino, but with Amorim’s system.