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05 Jul 2018 09:34:57
Papers now linking us with Shaqiri.

Him and Shaw would be unstoppable in the cafeteria.

1.) 05 Jul 2018 11:33:52
If Shaw got in first. There would nothing left in the cafeteria.

2.) 05 Jul 2018 11:49:42
I’d say they both try to go through at the same time, and just get stuck.

3.) 05 Jul 2018 12:29:46
Leave the jokes, guys. For 12mln tell me a better quality right winger who happily will be a squad player. And do not forget that we are playing without right wing for years.

{Ed001's Note - happily be a squad player? He left Bayern because he refused to be a squad player.}

4.) 05 Jul 2018 13:09:07
I mean his career has been a litany of failed auditions at big clubs. He ended up at Stoke where he put in no effort. That’s about his level - struggling EPL club where he can get by on natural ability without having to work.

5.) 05 Jul 2018 13:22:55
Not sure he wanted to leave, more like Bayern wanted to sell.

{Ed001's Note - yes, because he refused to knuckle down and be a squad player.}

6.) 05 Jul 2018 13:55:28
A simple question. what if a gamble clicked?

7.) 05 Jul 2018 15:38:35
Always tried to back jose and give him the benefit of the doubt but if the rumours about Shaqiri are true I’ll have lost all faith, don’t care if its 12 million or 12 bob he’s not worth it, i watched him against the swedes and i bet he didn’t run a bloody mile all game and that's at the World Cup.

8.) 05 Jul 2018 17:32:01
Absolute no to shaq IMO. Wont be happy with what we probably wpuld offer and he'd be leaving again next season.

9.) 05 Jul 2018 19:54:58
He’s failed everywhere, why on Earth would we sign him?

10.) 05 Jul 2018 20:02:26
Make a good door stop?

11.) 05 Jul 2018 20:51:35
Last week some folk on here were saying shaqiri is better than mata and jessie. 😂😂😂😂😂😊.

12.) 06 Jul 2018 01:06:08
Talented player but needs a team to be built around him, and he's not talented or applied enough to get that at a top club. Plus, he personifies the opposite of a "Jose player"! I wouldn't pick him ahead of Lingard, Alexis, Mata, Rashford, or the pre-slump Martial. I'd also rather Pogba play further forward with another midfielder in behind him than in a 2 with Shaqiri as 1 of the attacking 4. A big fat no from me. He'll probably end up joining a smaller club. Liverpool perhaps?



14 Jul 2017 11:22:42
Reported in Spain that Madrid are back in for De Gea, and he wants to leave. Price being mooted is £50m. Take it with a pinch of salt.

But if it is true, then this should be fun. If they wanted £70m for their backup striker, then how much is one of the top keepers in the world worth?

1.) 14 Jul 2017 11:24:47
£100m thanks Real.

2.) 14 Jul 2017 11:41:18
Pickford 30 mil for an upcoming keeper. De gea the best in the world needs to be 100 mil +.

3.) 14 Jul 2017 11:46:08
Minimum 100 million.

4.) 14 Jul 2017 12:00:42
All depends for all we know there might have been a gentleman's agreement for him to leave made last summer and a figure agreed. That figure then would look cheap by today's prices. Time will tell.

5.) 14 Jul 2017 12:02:45
£60mill+Kroos please thank you.

6.) 14 Jul 2017 12:03:17
Toni Kroos and £60m.

7.) 14 Jul 2017 12:26:33
with no prior agreement in place between us and RM i would say £95mil and make him the most expensive player in the world - for the short term anyway.

8.) 14 Jul 2017 12:30:08
If he wants out it will be hard to stop. But it must be on our terms. Perhaps we could get the opportunity to talk to bale or kroos if jose wants them.
A question i asked on another thread would we need to sign a keeper or would be go work romero and Perriera?

9.) 14 Jul 2017 12:35:17
Easily worth £100m today. Kroos and 60 would be a good return but this isn't footy manager. I'd love us to just stick 2 fingers up to Madrid and tell Mendes he needs to be loyal to us given the recent business we've done with him.

10.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:08
Haven't we already rejected a 60 million bid.

11.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:41
Don't think so bolger.

12.) 14 Jul 2017 14:31:43
Let's be realistic with the valuation, whilst the money at the minute for outfield players is crazy we are not going to get more than £60/ 70m for DDG. Keepers are important but not valued as highly as strikers.
At the end of last year I thought Mourinho for all his talk would have been happy with DDG going at a good price and starting season with Romero and the pereira who he thinks will be world class in a few years.
If DDG goes Hopefully we start conversations about Bale coming the other way.

13.) 14 Jul 2017 14:42:21
Unfortunately I think it's inevitable that De Gea will end up at Madrid. I've said before that it has the feel of the Fabregas to Barcelona to it and will eventually happen. I just hope we get the maximum amount for him. Jose seems to be getting decent fees for all the outgoings so far. I'd say between £80-90 million and he's yours. Then go after Jack Butland.

14.) 14 Jul 2017 14:46:48
Brad, historically goal scorers command the big fees. But with Liverpool rumoured to be happy to pay £70m million for Keita who's had one season in the bundesliga, why not stick for £100m for the worlds best goal keeper?

15.) 14 Jul 2017 15:09:35
Even if the player wants to go, we don't have to do the deal. It is feasible to hold the player to his contract. DDG seems like a good professional and he's already at one of the biggest clubs in the world with Champions League football.

However, I really rate Romero. I was at OT when he made his debut and I thought then he looked like an accomplished keeper. I have no doubt he would be an excellent number one for us.

If DDG is sold that leaves an interesting conundrum with Perriera. If I was Jose I would be asking myself, if Romero got injured is Perriera ready to step up straight away?

I think as that we need to reset the balance of our relationship with Real Madrid. They need to understand that they cannot just help themselves to any of our players and that if they are not prepared to be reasonable with players we want to buy from them, we are prepared to walk away and find an alternative.




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25 Sep 2021 18:11:51
The biggest thing I've taken away from this season is that the midfield duo are passengers whenever the team is attacking.

When United have possession it's almost like the midfield is holding shape in anticipation of defending. To the point that we often have a clear bank of midfielders and central defenders holding shape in the centre.

Top teams have midfields that can dominate possession and impose the direction of play. We have the opposite: a passive midfield whose job is geared toward when they don't have the ball.

I don't see how this squad can ever accomplish anything if the heart of the team is anonymous in possession. I wonder how long Ronaldo and Varane will be happy playing for a side whose goal is a top 4 finish, rather than competing for titles?

1.) 25 Sep 2021 18:14:54
Agreed, the inability to have ball players in the midfield is holding this team back.

Mctominay spends too much time hiding from the ball and is much more suited to doing bleep tests than passing.

I don't think I've seen much worse players than Fred on the ball in my time watching football.

2.) 25 Sep 2021 18:47:52
My favourite Fred moment was when his miscontrolled the ball, it bobbled around under his feet and then he tried to play a simple pass across midfieled but it went out for a throw in.

He had a big smile on his face and nice little chuckle. That's because the mood in the dressing room is so good.

3.) 25 Sep 2021 19:37:58
Mumbles, fine work!

That actually made me lol.

4.) 25 Sep 2021 19:45:56
Did you notice any of his good pieces of play mumbles? There were plenty today, much better performance from Fred. McT looked very rusty, he should have come off earlier.

5.) 25 Sep 2021 20:04:36
Mumbles that was funny. Look is anyone surprised we didn't win?
Its not a shock result.

6.) 25 Sep 2021 20:49:50
Dodgy, the bar is so low with Fred, I wouldn't say he done anything the other 40 midfielders across the prem will do this weekend.

7.) 26 Sep 2021 00:44:37
I thought Fred was good today, if VDB played like that everyone would say he was amazing.

8.) 26 Sep 2021 08:56:36
You've really a bee in your bonnet about DVB, GDS.



25 Aug 2020 14:12:04
If the prosecutions claims about Maguire are true, his position as captain is untenable.

Using his status as captain in an attempt to bribe a police officer. Not a good look.

If he's stripped, Bruno is the best shout. Hasn't been here long but is a leader.

1.) 25 Aug 2020 14:32:12
Innocent until proven guilty.

What about when Keane was arrested in early 90s and fergie had to go to the police station for him? He went on to become, IMO, our best ever captain?

2.) 25 Aug 2020 14:41:14
In other news congratulations to young Mason Greenwood being called up for his first England squad. Fantastic news for the kid and throughly well deserved.

3.) 25 Aug 2020 15:21:22
I can't believe people are still going by "claims".

It's not worth reading the nonsense where these reports came from as they are click bait.

4.) 25 Aug 2020 17:09:23
These are claims that the prosecution made in court backed by the three arresting officers. It’s what the prosecution is claiming he has done, not a newspaper rumour.

5.) 25 Aug 2020 17:27:35
Found guilty.

6.) 25 Aug 2020 17:27:41
Now found guilty - aggravated assault, resisting arrest, and repeated attempts of bribery.

Quite the rap sheet and don’t think he can remain captain.

7.) 25 Aug 2020 17:34:13
He's just been found guilty.

8.) 25 Aug 2020 17:37:24
Maguire found guilty.



19 Feb 2020
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1.) 20 Feb 2020 10:37:05
The figures are eye watering and make for shocking reading. That said the 2008 market crash has played a large part in the need to restructure the debt and the associated costs. Something that certainly wouldn't have been part of the plan when the Glazer's took over. That doesn't make it any better, but just highlights that things outside of the owners control will have impacted how they run the club from a financial point of view.

The other thing is actually just how little dividends have actually been paid out over the last 10 years. 99m might sound like a lot. But less than 10m a year being paid out to 5 or 6 individuals mean that the owners of the club have been earning significantly less than a large proportion of the playing staff. Anyone in the squad earning more than say 40k per week is earning more than the owners. Which you would say is most of them.

As a PLC we used to pay out around the 10m a year in dividends. So to say the owners are leaching the club dry seems a little wide of the mark.

It's interesting reading, however, the numbers outside of context are hard to interpret.

2.) 20 Feb 2020 11:10:59
Shap, those figures don’t include salaries, which the owners take for various roles/ duties. The figure is solely related to financing and re-financing tied to the initial leveraged buyout - I. e. it has cost the club close to £900m, so far, because the owners bought the club without investing any of their own money.

3.) 20 Feb 2020 12:15:37
I completely agree that the 900m it has cost the club is a massive loss. The trick is that we naturally assume that had the leveraged buy out had not happened that the money would have gone on the team, or wages or the stadium.

While its safe to assume that without the debt incurred though the buy out that the club may have had money to develop the stadium and the facilities. I don't think much more could have been spent on wages, we have the second highest wage bill in the world as it is. Also a huge problem we have with selling players is that they are on wages other clubs either can't or won't match often meaning we either have to sell the player below their realistic market value or we are stuck with them.

Maybe we would have had more to spend on transfer or maybe we wouldn't have. One thing that is not considered when discussing the Glazer's is just by how much they have increased our revenues. Some people will say other owners would have done the same but the fact that these changes were made by the Glazer's highlights that they weren't being done before.

So how much of that 900m spent on the debt comes from additional revenue created by the people who incurred the debt?

Under private ownership the Glazer's decide whether to take dividends and how much they take. So far over the last 10 years they have taken less than 10m a year. If the club was still a PLC it is safe to assume quite a bit more would have been paid out in dividends to the shareholders over that period.

It's all if buts and maybes. In reality we will never know where the club would be without the Glazer's and its pointless and actually wrong to suggest that the club would have this figure or that figure more to spend in scenario x, y or z.

I don't like the Glazer's, very little if any good publicity has come out of their ownership. While regardless of what is happening off the pitch during their ownership the club has seen a sharp decline. That may or may not have happened regardless after Sir Alex stepped down. Either way, I'm not a fan of our owners.

That said there are many worst owners out there, and we could easily be worse off than we are. There has been a huge push from the fans to remove the owners, the Green and Gold campaign and the setting up of Untied FC of Manchester. Yet the owners are still here.

That to me suggests we can't do anything to shift them short of having a whip around and raise the funds to buy them out. You don't happen to have a spare 3-4 billion do you?

In fighting at a club never ends well, it spills out from the terraces and into the dressing room in essence destabilising the club which isn't to the benefit of the team, the owners or the fans.

We can't shift them, all we can do is drag our club down. Better to ignore them, and focus on the team, the players and fellow fans. The good things about the club. The Glazer's have owned the club for 17 years of our either 142 or 118 year history depending on which you count. They won't own the club forever. Do you know how many owners the club have had in that time? How many can you name? Doesn't that highlight how little they mean to our history?

4.) 21 Feb 2020 07:17:06
Shappy, no one is begrudging the owners taking annual dividends. The problem is the amateurish running of the club from the footballing side. Ludicrous money wasted on terrible transfers, no money spent on Old Trafford or Carrington. No thought given to our academy for years, although that has improved in recent times. Players like jones, smalling, lingard, Pereira being rewarded for their mediocrity with new lucrative contracts. Woodward gets the blame and rightly so, but the owners have a responsibility to the club. It's not just a business, it's a football club and a business.
You don't have to look very far to see that our most hated enemy across the East lancs seem to have owners who want success on the football pitch and off the football pitch, it can be done.



08 Feb 2020 15:54:53
Interesting comments from Fred:

"We are lacking a lot right now, first of all we need to figure out things on the pitch, we are lacking creativity, especially in midfield. "

"We also need to improve as a group, our group lacks the 'sticking together mentality', we have lots of problems. "

"Vanity is also an issue and we need to stop this and just run on the pitch. "

"We need to be on the same page and today some players have different objectives, there are players that just want to solve problems alone and this is wrong. "

Fred, despite his limitations, has been one of our best players over the last few months. Primarily because he puts the work in and keeps up the effort for the full 90 minutes.

Three issues: lack of creativity, lack of teamwork, and big egos. Pretty bang on I think. Issues that encompass both the attitudes of certain players, and the tactical failings of the coaching team. If Fred is aware of these problems, the coaching team is too and we have to wonder why they haven't solved any of them.

1.) 08 Feb 2020 17:36:21
This is very scary if true.

2.) 08 Feb 2020 17:56:47
Maybe Fred should be player/ coach for the rest of the season.

3.) 08 Feb 2020 20:27:38
I read that this morning Danny. It is a worrying state of affairs. Good managers stamp down on vanity, and encourage unity. And it seems that this is not happening at present.
Also, players coming out criticising outdated training methods by McKenna. Who put together a coaching team of Solskjaer, phelan, Carrick and McKenna? It's an absolute joke.

4.) 08 Feb 2020 21:02:14
I respect freds words and his work rate on the pitch but he is part of the problem.

The level of his first touch compared with other professional footballers (not even high level) who play midfield is severely poor.

Cant help but thhink we would be more creative if our attacking players got the ball in more threatening areas from people like fred.

Having to take an extra touch on the ball or take an extra 5 seconds to make up for a poor touch is what slows down our attack and leads to the plodding tempo were so accustomed to seeing against teams that sit back.

5.) 09 Feb 2020 08:07:18
If Fred is right then it’s good he has called it out and frankly, is anyone surprised? Ole is trying to move on those he thinks don’t fit yet he continually enthuses about Pogba who is a major part of the problem. His intentions are sound but he seems incapable of delivering it.

I suspect we will slide to 7th and he will be gone before the season is out. If Poch is interested I expect him to be in next.

6.) 09 Feb 2020 08:27:01
I would guess Pogba. Lingard, Martial and Chong most unsettled/ affected by off pitch matters.

Let them go.



20 Oct 2019 18:50:38
Well done to Red Man. He called it, the team gave buckets of commitment, and pulled out a result.

This is a system which could work against attacking sides, like Wolves do. But it can't work with Rojo and Young on the left, they blew it for the team today.

But still no evidence that we can break down teams and score more goals.

1.) 20 Oct 2019 19:31:58
Danny on the evidence of not breaking teams down, that wasn’t a game where we could see that today. Next weekend at Norwich let’s judge then. I think ole will go back to the 433 he used at the start (I say in hope. )

2.) 20 Oct 2019 19:54:57
Same Danny, redman fair play, you had it called.

Now if only we gave that sort of commitment every week.




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05 Aug 2021 15:30:24
If Pogba was an employee in a normal industry, he would have quit years ago to work for another company.

Pogba is an employee who has told the club he would like to play elsewhere. The club has priced him out of a move for years and kept an unhappy underperforming player at the club. This is a poor footballing decision.

All Pogba’s agent has done is attempted to get his client the move he wants. If Pogba was key to the team, there might be some justification in keeping him. As it stands United and Pogba have both wasted time and money on a situation that suits neither party.



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05 Oct 2020 15:00:15
What other acquisitions?

Telles was independent of Sancho and Cavani is a free agent.

United allegedly bid £90m for Sancho, and are now signing a kid for less than a third of that. There’s £60m plus that isn’t being spent, despite it being blindingly obvious that our squad is unfit for purpose. The kid won’t even be here till Jan, and even then he will take years to be a starter.

There was no plan this window, and suspect Ole will be gone before the new year.



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15 Sep 2020 11:00:44
Bale ‘could’ singlehandedly win games, past tense.

Now Bale is finished. Massive wages, atrocious injury record, no work ethic, and doesn’t seem to care about playing.



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13 Sep 2020 11:28:22
Bigger mistake than Sanchez. At least Sanchez still wants to play football. Bale has no desire, completely checked out of his career.



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25 Aug 2020 14:00:28
From what ED002 has said, Dortmund set a price. It’s really high. United believed they could get the player for cheaper. Made a fool of themselves, and are now looking at alternatives (Costa, Brooks) with Grealish more likely to be our big money signing.




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29 Sep 2021 19:55:05
I just hope Pogba isn’t played deep. McTominay can do the holding role on his own.



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29 Sep 2021 17:52:45
McTom as a holding player behind VDB and Bruno. Have some bravery for once and put out a midfield that can dictate play.



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28 Sep 2021 16:19:33
They don’t let him down Mumbles, by his standards. If they were letting him down, Ole would have replaced one or both of them.

Personally I thinking that picking central midfielders on the basis of their on the ball ability is best, as a club that aspires to win trophies needs to have players in the middle that want to get on the ball and dictate play.

Ole just has different standards for judging midfield players.



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28 Sep 2021 13:44:17
He’s been in position for 6 transfer windows.

When he got the job, we lacked a top quality holding midfielder.

He has never made a clear attempt to bring in holding midfielder.

The perceived lack of choice is the result of choices he made in every transfer window.

So either Ole has no control over transfers or he thinks that Fred and McTominay are good enough to be United’s central midfield.

I think people are deluded if they think this is something Ole hasn’t chosen. This is the midfield he has gone for every time. 2 and a half seasons, with no real shift. He wants to play Fred and McTominay as the midfield two because they fit his tactics - sit deep and move the ball to the forward players to create.



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27 Sep 2021 11:30:21
I think one of the things that protects his position is that ex-players are reluctant to criticise him. With Jose and LVG the ex-players in the media were able to amplify supporter discontent. You had former players saying that it wasn’t the United way and so on.

For Ole, it’s all his old mates, so they’ve been broadly supportive. The style of football under Ole is as defensive and boring as it was under Jose and LVG. But the ex-players in the media have constantly claimed that we are headed in the right direction and playing like a United side.

Without ex-players in the media echoing what the fans are saying, it’s much more difficult to put pressure on Ole’s position.