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Where from: Kilkenny, Ireland


Favourite player: Roy Keane


Best team moment: Watching Man Utd win the 98/99 European Cup. I don\'t believe any other team will win it so dramatically


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21 Jul 2019 16:59:25
I believe the maguire deal is done. All happy with the signing?

angelred

1.) 21 Jul 2019 17:46:18
Could well be our era's Steve Bruce signing. But what a great stop gap to lead Lindelof and Tuanzabe. Ultimately when it comes to replacing a player of Maguire's ability you at the very top of the market.
Would be a smart signing.


2.) 21 Jul 2019 17:58:49
Not my first choice I’ll admit but he will improve our defence which is looking much stronger and more balanced now.
It should also allow a couple to depart.


3.) 21 Jul 2019 18:01:57
Expensive stop gap 😂.


4.) 21 Jul 2019 18:19:03
Why do we think it's done? Obviously you mean pending medical but I've only seen unreliable reports atm.

Have i missed something.


5.) 21 Jul 2019 18:26:52
We haven't signed him yet.


6.) 21 Jul 2019 18:36:59
Not a great fan, but I hope he does well if he does arrive. Hopefully those who think like me will give him a chance, and not turn on him if he doesn't hit the ground running.


7.) 21 Jul 2019 19:07:25
Same as you Nou. I think there are better options out there but will back him a 100%. I do think he is an improvement.


8.) 21 Jul 2019 21:47:13
Expensive but the best we can get and we moan the club don't spend.


9.) 21 Jul 2019 21:59:44
Angle
Your going to back him 100% .
For how long?


10.) 21 Jul 2019 22:46:57
Jred, There are a lot of players who have come through the doors at the club who do not have the right attitude. If I question a player, I know it is justified.

Maguire, needs a proper chance at the club to show his worth. If we look at him a couple of years down the road and let's say he is consistently out of shape or simply not giving it his all, he will be questioned.

Hope that helps 😊.


11.) 22 Jul 2019 01:30:04
So about the same time people give managers before questioning them. Players and managers all need support until they have shown their worth. Some people call for managers to be sacked some call for players to be sold.
Some opinions change if players improve or managers improve or indeed over time. Sometimes patience pays off sometimes it doesn't
Opinions in football are as fluid as players form and performances.


12.) 22 Jul 2019 01:42:20
Only time will tell with maguire.
I think he will do well.
Im well aware of his alleged frailties but he has attributes we need. The timing is right. I predict he will like AWB be a huge fan faviurite.
The money is crazy but that's the way it is.
I can't think of a lower risk option.
If he and awb help us concede a dozen less goals then its money well spent.
He is a tryer he is playing at a level well above where his good given talent affords him.
Just like carragher neville terry adams bruce even today at top clubs davison sanchez at spurs loveren or matip at Liverpool luiz at chelsea stones at city. Maguire is better than all of them and they play most weeks.
Maguire will improve our team and imo would get into any top 6 side ahead of those in mentioned.


13.) 22 Jul 2019 05:45:36
At the moment, Maguire will walk into our side.
Moves Lindelof to his preferred Right side.
Dangerous in set piece at both the boxes.
Can pick a pass which means he is another attacking outlet.
Ofcourse he has his deficiencies, But I would easily pick him over Jones or Smalling or Rojo.

We are not challenging for the title. We cannot offer Champions League.
Do you guys really think it is attractive for the likes of Varane or De Ligt to join us?
We need to be realistic.


 

 

05 Jul 2019 13:45:05
Seems like you're bang on with Fernandes. We are very keen.

Will you be doing any sharkopods this summer?

angelred

{Ed002's Note - I hope so. My issue has been a great deal of travel and even though I am in England right now it is only for a few more days.}


1.) 05 Jul 2019 14:01:11
Ed I have a story about travel.
This blonde woman got on a plane and went to sit in first class, the stewardess noticed she hadn't paid first class, sorry you will have to move to the back of the plane, I'm blonde I'm beautiful and I'm going to Dublin she said and wouldn't move, so the stewardess told the Co pilot and captain, the Co pilot went back same thing I'm blonde I'm beautiful and I'm going to Dublin.
Soo the captain says I have a blonde wife ill deal with this, he went back whispered in her ear and she got up and moved to the back of the plane, what did you sayto her says the co pilot, I just told her only the back of the plane was going to Dublin😊.

{Ed002's Note - Very good. What's the difference between American pilots and Iraqi pilots? American pilots break ground and fly into the wind.}


2.) 05 Jul 2019 15:12:59
Perhaps we could take you on a tour of the cobbled streets of Manchester Ed 😁.


3.) 05 Jul 2019 16:30:06
Very good ed.


4.) 05 Jul 2019 18:06:38
We hope so too ed! Safe travels.


5.) 05 Jul 2019 22:55:56
Sorry guys, as an Iraqi I find the above joke very offensive.

{Ed002's Note - But sadly you are no more than a cretinous liar.}


6.) 05 Jul 2019 23:49:01
Mutanabi it's a joke, I'm all my life listening to jokes about Irishman, cork men, whatever but I laugh at them. Lighten up and laugh it helps.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 06:36:00
Ed001 if you're about. it'd be great to know your opinion on the daily mirror journalist who has had his media pass revoked by United?

angelred

{Ed001's Note - I don't know anything about the journalist sorry. I do know his pass was revoked because he was set to talk to BeIn Sports TV channel about his story on Jose being set to be sacked pitchside before the game at the weekend. The club were upset that he would do so during the build up to a match right there. Understandably I think. In my opinion they had every right to stop him disrupting the build up to an important game like that.}


1.) 08 Oct 2018 07:35:44
Thanks ed001. I just meant about the situation.

I wish clubs clamped down harder on journalist in general. I know clubs should be open to scrutiny but the level of crap that has been written about united recently, I was happy to see action being taken.

{Ed001's Note - so you want clubs to dictate to newspapers what they can write? You are advocating censorship? Sorry I disagree. That story came from a legitimate source within the club, he had every right to write it and put it out there.}


2.) 08 Oct 2018 07:41:21
Esq could you give your views on our current state if you have time. The media have placed the blame firmly on Jose but I think that is very much incorrect. Although he isn't the best suited manager out their to the "United way" some of the players have been appalling to say the least and it seems he hasn't been backed 100% by the board. As a fan what I ask of from everyone involved is first and foremost 100% effort. It shouldn't matter whether you like the manager or not, whether you like the tealady or not, if you are a part of the association then you can't have these childish attitude towards the club and I don't just mean it for United and United players. You should be true to your job and fully professional at the least.

It happened at Chelsea, it happened at Leicester too, 2 prime examples of the recent times. I think player power is starting to get out of control in football as a whole.

On a side note Ed 1, who do you think United will go for if (when? ) Jose goes out of the door and who do you think we should go after? I think we might go for Zidane and I think it would be the 2nd worst choice (first being Big Sam) . I think when we go for a new manager, we should do what City and Liverpool have done, get a manager that plays the desired style of football, has a bit of success proven himself somewhere for a few years and give him 2_3 years time before demanding all sorts of results and that goes for us fans too. We should do a proper rebuild of the club and how it is run.

Rant over
Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - it is never 100% totally one person's fault, but Jose has to take a large portion of the blame, over 50% of it, for the way he has handled things. He has been confrontational and never willing to compromise. He has been deliberately obstructive at times and has come into the job in all the wrong way from the start. That has turned the board and players against him, when initially they were almost entirely on his side.

This is not the same situation as at either Chelsea or Leicester. This is a man who knew there were people who were not keen on his appointment and then has deliberately and wilfully antagonised them by making it known he hated living in Manchester and refusing to buy a house in the area. If you start a relationship at someone's throat and you are unwilling to compromise, the only way it goes is downhill.

He has put himself into a situation where he has made it all about himself and his demands. Only he is to blame for that.

Both the board and the players could have responded better to his actions, you are correct, but the mess there right now is largely down to Jose.

Having said that, just getting rid of Jose will not fix it, as he is just the major problem, not the whole problem. There is a need to remove Ed Woodward from any involvement with the football side of things at all, I would argue that should probably extend to the whole of United, as the achievements he has made are those any junior executive should have been able to do. A genuine football person needs to come in to oversee the football side of things, to create a blueprint for the type of football the club, as a whole, will look to play and to bring in the people to achieve that goal at all levels. That is far more important than the manager, in modern day football, as they are the roles the old school football manager at clubs like United used to fulfil. Ferguson was never a coach, in fact there were large periods where he never even got time to get to the training ground. United need to stop trying to hang on to this idealised version of what he did and move into the real world and see what he actually did. Once that is done, then the club can catch the team on the other side of the city.

As for a replacement, I really don't know. The desire of most is a big name or club legend, as anyone else would be an issue with regards to club profile and stock market value. Which is why Zidane is favourite. Because of that I do think I think I can remove options like Howe from the running. It does look like Zidane, Carrick or Giggs, as there are very few other options out there.}


3.) 08 Oct 2018 07:58:11
Dictate? I've just read my post again and that's a bit of a leap made by you.

There is a constant stream of bull**** stories published by the English media and most of the time they are never held accountable.

Something has to be done.

The next time a journalist wants to go pitchside and discuss a story like that before a game, he might think twice.

What about all of the other stories written without a shred of information or sources?

{Ed001's Note - what about them? That is not up to the club to stop, that is up to the morons who keep clicking on the links. All you have to do is not click on them as a fanbase and they will go away.}


4.) 08 Oct 2018 08:15:49
Ed, In this day and age. do you think that is going to happen? Really? In a world of brexit and President Trump.

I think as a journalist you stop with writing the clickbait crap, if you don't do that, I think you should be held accountable for your own nonsense.

{Ed001's Note - I agree it shouldn't be written, but if people are dumb enough to keep clicking the links, someone will keep writing them. I certainly wouldn't write it, I hate it with a passion and would love to see it vanish, but it is down to people as a whole to see sense and stop being such gullible fools and clicking on the links.}


5.) 08 Oct 2018 08:28:34
I know you don't write it. That's completely evident.

But the majority of these so called journalists have incredible following and ability to make people believe. That is the age that we live in unfortunately.

Someone has to be held accountable and I have no problem with journalists within the media rooms of clubs having their passes revoked by the clubs if they write complete and utter crap.

I'd imagine you'll see less and less of it being wrote as those journos live to be in those rooms. If they aren't there, then they don't get paid.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with the passes being revoked and it should be done publicly as well with a full explanation of why it has been revoked. I just disagree with your suggestion of clamping down harder. The problem is that you will end up with a situation like happened under Ferguson, when every journo who wrote the truth was banned in order to shut them up.}


6.) 08 Oct 2018 08:47:44
Lol I don't want it to go full dictator. I just don't believe that these people should be allowed to be in these media rooms when they are unable to do their job.

When i mean clamp down, I meant exactly what i elaborated on in the posts above. Thise writing absolutely crap should be held accountable. Those actually doing there job no matter how it reflects on the club should be actually be applauded. I know those journalists still exist and should be lauded.

{Ed001's Note - if the club could be trusted to do that fairly I would agree, but they can't. They are only interested in protecting their own interest.}


7.) 08 Oct 2018 08:50:16
I think a DOF of sorts is a must for Us, and if he is a guy that is liked by Fans and all then maybe the best option football wise as coach wouldn't be the hardest thing to achieve. And also ed1 I was never trying to say Jose is not at fault, what my point is people in general seem to think firing Jose and hiring a new manager will be solution I think Jose is, as you said, the biggest part of the problem but not the whole problem. I think this having to be a big name and/ or an ex player so that the fans will get behind them and the stock value won't plummet approach will eventually lead us into obscurity if not dealt with properly in time. If the club appoints a competent guy who is not yet a big name it doesn't matter to me as a fan and I think it shouldn't matter to others as well. What should matter is that the guy is leading us in the correct direction. Just a random name and not the first choice I would make but Eugenio Di Francesco will get my full backing if he is leading us to the correction direction irrespective of the fact that he is not a big name manager or has never played for United. On the other hand Mark Hughes would be a terrible choice although he is an ex player and so is Steve Bruce. This is already starting on the wrong side. Only half decent ex man it's player turned manager is Blanc and he isn't that great either. Our club is turning into a huge mess and that won't be solved just by saving Jose. It may be a start but that doesn't end there.

Also ed1 I was not trying to say that we are in the same position as Chelsea or Leicester. It was just an example of player power getting out of hand. Speaking of Leicester, what is Ranier up to these days, I think even he would be better than Zidane. I don't know why but I am not convinced by Zidane, although he has won more European trophy in 3 yrs than SAF managed in his whole Career. Something just doesn't seem right to me yet.

{Ed001's Note - I wasn't meaning it to suggest you were saying those things, it was just trying to address the whole discussion I have seen on the pages over recent weeks.

I agree on Zidane, he is not convincing at all.}


8.) 08 Oct 2018 08:56:56
So ed I know someone above has mentioned why and who would replace Jose, but have you heard anything about him leaving? Do you expect him to go soon? Personally I'd prefer to see Carrick and McKenna in charge for this season find a director of football by Christmas then see if the management issue needs to be changed at the end of the season or if those 2 are doing a good job.

{Ed001's Note - I do expect him to go because he has antagonised so many people it is only a matter of time before it comes to a head. Wins like the one at the weekend are only papering over the cracks. I don't know if the rumoured meeting did take place or not, but there is certainly a growing number of people who are pushing for him to be removed.}


9.) 08 Oct 2018 09:24:02
For all I have written above (with a million typos- do you guys even understand half of that, even I have to read it twice to be sure what I was trying to write) , United need to part ways with Jose and that is inevitable. However sweet the result at the weekend was, we were down 2_0 to a team that looks like will find hard to survive and that at home. Jose needs to take a huge share of the blame for that. The players need to put 100% effort, that is the minimum I as a fan expect but Jose is the guy in charge to ensure that does not change. Having a team full of players that don't seem like they want to break a sweat go out to play, well he makes the decision on who plays so he takes the blame too. Not all of it, but a huge chunk of it.

I think we could do a lot worse than Mr. Wenger for a shirt term solution. He might even end up being a good DOF ( who knows) . Also Conte is out of Job.
The number of so called big name manager out of job might make the board act quicker as they seemingly have the options available. Just off the top of my head Ranieri, Wenger, Zidane, Conte, Roger Schmidt, Sampaoli, they all are out of job and/ or in a position where they will be attainable a bit easily. A random name and he is at a club that was once a rival to us but wouldn't it be a hell of a journey if Mr Madman Bielsa was at our great club. That would be fun. If you think Pep plays exciting football, well he is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to high octane energetic football, a rollercoaster ride.

I know you would enjoy Bielsa at a top club ( maybe not at Utd) ed1.


On a side note Ed, with all this uncertainty is there any update on the transfer front or has this toxic environment halted the plan once more?

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - the club will always continue to look at players but right now they do not even know who they will be recruiting for. It is difficult to sign players who want to know the coach who will be training them and picking them.}


10.) 08 Oct 2018 09:44:01
Exactly what I was fearing of. This kind of uncertainty happened under Van Has too and it led us to shafting a long term plan and taking the high road. Not the best decision but Van Has did warrant the sack. The club need to quickly decide what they want to do in this scenario, either fully back Jose or sack him. There are options available to the club so just make a well thought out logical decision that doesn't look at what the share prices will be tomorrow but rather looks at where will this potentially lead us to this time next year and year after that. A similar scenario resulted ultimately into this mess and also cost us Saul Niguez amongst others (according to ed2, we were going to hold+ a meeting with Atleti nut all plans were cancelled back then) . Don't want a repeat of similar situation where the club is direction less for a significant time.

Just imagine Sail in our Midfield. What a player he is, one of the best midfielders unlike someone who is always a potentially one of the best but doesn't have the time to take his head out of his backside.

{Ed001's Note - Saul is a fantastic player.}


11.) 08 Oct 2018 10:16:13
What would you do if you were incharge ed? Short term solution? Long term? Dof first? Or even stick with mourinho?

{Ed001's Note - right now you have to get through the season with as little damage as possible, so I would bring in a DoF with the remit to look over the club from top to bottom ready to get cracking next summer. Then I would give Jose a bit longer, to see if he can rein himself in long enough to see the team through. He only has to cope long enough for the DoF to identify the long term options and appoint one of them. But it has to be the man at the top first, as it needs to all stem from him.}


12.) 08 Oct 2018 10:24:18
Ed001 - I think that is superb reply and I totally agree with you about SAF. It is my understanding that as his career progressed he took a step back and became a brilliant delegator. He regularly changed his assistants and coaching staff to freshen things up, implement new ideas and keep the players motivated. He became more of an observer which gave him the advantage of being able to assess exactly what was going on at the football Club.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said any new DOF will become the most important person at the Club most certainly from a footballing perspective anyway. They will drive the footballing strategy and vision.

I was always slightly curious why we couldn't have adopted this approach when SAF retired. I think he could have remained in post for a couple of seasons as a figurehead whilst Moyes took control of the team. He would have been a valuable asset and maybe he could have been more actively involved in player recruitment aiding both Moyes and Woodward through a difficult first window. I'd have liked to have seen a slower more measured transition where Moyes was approached and offered the job as head coach ultimately taking the main role the following season or even the season after. It might just have given the Club time to find its feet and put measures in place to fill the massive void when SAF eventually retired. Of course this is all just pie in the sky reasoning but ultimately the great man was always going to retire and maybe his biggest legacy could have been overseeing the next step and ensuring the Club continued to dominate rather than just leaving a vacuous hole they have been unable to fill. Johan Cruyff left Barcelona with a footballing philosophy which has endured for decades even after his untimely death. He has provided the Club with a blueprint and recipe for continued success. I'd have like to have seen Utd follow suit with SAF engineering and planning his own retirement and legacy rather than just leaving suddenly. Of course this all sounds great in theory but I appreciate in reality it's easier said than done. Maybe he just couldn't commit any more of his time and things happened suddenly which we're out of his control. Its all ancient history now anyway.

{Ed001's Note - I think the problem you had was that Fergie was still around and it never works out when the previous, legendary, manager is still around. Busby stepped upstairs and it didn't help at all. Shankly was causing a similar issue at Liverpool after he quit, so he was asked to stay away. Cruyff went off to rebuild Ajax (if I remember correctly) so he was not there overshadowing his successors. Fergie is too strong a character to just put him to one side, unlike Paisley, for example, who acted as advisor when Dalglish was first appointed up until he fully retired in 1989 and then it all fell apart for Liverpool without him. When you have someone as strong as Fergie, it has to be a clean break or his shadow is over everything.

Your biggest problem was that he was in control of pretty much everything at the club. Great while he was there, but the minute he went it left a massive power vacuum that Eddy Woodwouldward could never hope to fill and Moyes had no intention of getting involved to that degree of micro-management. So you were left with a lot of people who no longer knew who to report to.}


13.) 08 Oct 2018 10:56:22
Is there any plans to remove Woodward or is he safe? He definitely needs to be removed from any influence over the football side.

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to appoint someone to come in and take over the football side from him but I don't believe his position to be in threat.}


14.) 08 Oct 2018 12:03:44
Hi Ed, thanks for your input into these posts it’s very interesting and helps to get some perspective.

I know things are all hypothetical but if Jose is removed in the near future do you see the club making a point to put in someone in the DoF post as the top priority?

Would make sense and have a temporary head coach until this position is filled?

{Ed001's Note - the club is already searching for one, so I would think that would be the way they would look to go.}


15.) 08 Oct 2018 12:07:18
Waking up and seeing the red response from you gives me goosebumps Ed001, seriously lol. Do agree with you, it is Jose's fault, preventable issues etc but getting rid of him won't sort everything out. But one thing, what is the need for him to buy a house if he's the only one living in it? City centre apartment is actually more convenient for him?

Also, did you see Mbappe's 4 goal haul yesterday? Incredible player with an elite mentality; saying he should have got a few more lol.

{Ed001's Note - because buying a house would allow his family to come up and stay in Manchester from time to time and visit him. It wouldn't have to be a house, but I just meant all that time in the hotel was just saying I am not putting down roots.

I haven't seen Mbappe's goals yet.}


16.) 08 Oct 2018 12:11:27
Also, what do you think of Eddie Howe Ed? Seen his name mentioned quite a bit recenty.

{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced by Howe personally. His teams' are inconsistent because he has no idea how to coach defence. He is another Roberto Martinez/Marco Silva - great when it works but all comes crashing down when things go against him. He is just lucky there not to have had a proper sticky patch, as he threw in the towel elsewhere when it happened.}


17.) 08 Oct 2018 12:32:36
Ed do you know if the reason Sir Bobby Charlton not going to any games this season is to do with health or some other reason?

{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware he is just not that well these days. He is a very old man, his brother is severely ill and he is not 100% either. Sadly time catches up with all of us.}


18.) 08 Oct 2018 11:35:32
Any chance that we might tempt Allegri again if Mourinho does get the sack?

{Ed001's Note - I think he would not be interested again after the way he was treated last time.}


19.) 08 Oct 2018 13:08:24
Yeah your probably right Ed001. Pie in the sky talk really just thinking out loud thanks for your reply!

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult because you don't want to push out a legend like Fergie, but sometimes you have to.}


20.) 08 Oct 2018 11:35:32
Any chance that we might tempt Allegri again if Mourinho does get the sack?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


21.) 08 Oct 2018 14:34:57
Thank you Ed001 and 002 for taking out the time to provide us with this informtion, reassuring us makes us feel a lot better lol. i. e. still looking for a director = hope. Also, Monaco have played 10, Lost 7 and Drew 3 so maybe we could possible tempty Jardim though i remember Ed002 saying it would be difficult or unattainable, can't remember correctly. Ed001, there was talk of Alderweireld being available for £25m, do you know when that will be activated? (Providing he doesn't sign a new contract)

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe there is any such stipulation in his contract. It is not something Levy would allow normally.}


22.) 08 Oct 2018 15:06:57
Thanks Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The termination clause relates to a one year extension to his existing contract not to either this season nor a new contract.}


23.) 08 Oct 2018 15:37:46
You're the man Ed002, thanks.


24.) 08 Oct 2018 17:37:58
Hi, Ed001. Just wondering if you have any idea on Mourinho's feelings about us bringing in a DOF. Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I am quite sure he fully expected one when he joined.}


25.) 08 Oct 2018 17:52:16
Can't argue with any that Ed001. Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure you could mate!}


26.) 08 Oct 2018 21:00:47
Hi ed001, just reading about your comments on Fergie and the vacuum left when he retired.

Do you liken it to Wengers time and how he used to micro manage everything? Except for the fact that arsenal seemed to have planned in advance for Wengers departure. They seemed to have put things in place so that when Wenger left, the correct people were already there.

Now you can see arsenal tying down contracts in advance and allowing emery just to focus on what happens on the pitch.

It looks like they learned from United's mistakes.

{Ed001's Note - very similar yes and you are spot on they did see a number of those issues arising and took action. Whether it is enough or not only time will tell, but they have certainly put themselves into a stronger position comparatively than United did. In fact they actually look to have improved without Wenger.}


27.) 08 Oct 2018 21:15:31
Cheers, Ed001. Didn't know if he would embrace it, or see it as a challenge to his position. Glad to hear you think he would have at least been expecting it, rather than having it thrust on him. Thanks again.

{Ed001's Note - the plan was always to bring one in mate. He is used to working with a similar set up, very few clubs outside of England operate any other way.}


 

 

31 Mar 2017 16:21:47
Looks as though bakayoko has made Chelsea his first choice.

angelred

 

 

06 Dec 2015 10:25:12
Just seen the comments from post match conference with LVG. 'I don't understand that they shout attack attack attack, we were the attacking team, not west ham united'

jesus is this guy for real? Does he not understand what this clubs DNA is all about? I know ed002 has said there's no plans to change manager until 2017 but I think this man's day might come a lot sooner.

angelred

1.) 06 Dec 2015 20:54:32
He has certainly bought into the lie that possession = attacking football.

That said, I couldn't watch yesterday, but I thought I saw stats showing a lot of shots, just mostly off target.

Ìf we create the chances but just can't convert them, he only bares limited responsibility for that failing.

It's when we have 70%+ possession and only 4-5 shots in total that is really his fault.


2.) 06 Dec 2015 21:09:35
Haven't seen the stats for the game. How many of those efforts were for the second half alone?

Call me old-fashioned, but I like to see my team attempt to attack from the start, when we're playing at home. West Ham were very unlucky not to be going into the break, 2-0 up, and only the most wide-eyed optimist would have had us coming back from that.


3.) 06 Dec 2015 21:11:42
Most of the so called shots were desperate. Misleading stat.

Great chances it was 4-2 West Ham.


4.) 07 Dec 2015 07:35:33
LVG out! he is not changing anything to try and improve performances so for me he has to go, no doubt about it.


5.) 08 Dec 2015 10:53:16
I did wonder how misleading the stats might be.

I remember taunting a mate who supports Arsenal about boring possession football a few years ago. He pointed out that in our most recent encounter, they'd had more shots as well as possession. I made him sit down and watch a recording of the game with me. Sure enough, they'd barely had a shot until about the 75th minute, then started shooting wildly every time they got within 35 yards of the goal.

I'm so glad I haven't seen that mate recently.


 

 

 

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05 Apr 2021 20:54:02
BRING BACK JESSIE!

angelred

1.) 05 Apr 2021 21:25:53
Hum

Lukaku not good enough, but Martial is.
Lingard not good enough, but Dan James is
Romero not good enough as a No2 now we have created a big problem in goal with DDG apparently unhappy, Romero unhappy.
Bailly disenfranchised
Dalot shipped out and now we are looking for a right back
Who is making the decisions?


2.) 05 Apr 2021 21:38:25
I don't really rate lingard much but he seems to be playing quite well, given how much we might have to pay another player, I wouldn't mind giving him an extension.


3.) 05 Apr 2021 22:36:09
Red Man,

Lukaku wanted out, behaved like a bit of a prat before he left as well. Good player but limited, I’ve seen people below say haaland is another lukaku and they don’t want him. I personally liked lukaku, but he tended to go missing for big chunks and especially in the big domestic games.

Lingard had been poor for a very long time with us, and had many well documented pressures off the pitch. New environments can bring out the best in players.

Romero hasn’t been number 2 because Henderson is back, he’s leaving in the summer anyway and is handsomely paid. If de gea has an issue with being dropped well tough. He’s been well below his standards and hasn’t shown signs of getting back.

Bailly can’t play 10 games in a row, why would any manager or club trust him and make him first choice.

Is dalot tearing up any trees in Milan? Good going forward but in his games here he showed he was no where near good enough defensively.

If United want to be winning trophies consistently they need better than every name you’ve mentioned in your post and I 100% include James and Martial (who would be first gone if I had a say) .


4.) 06 Apr 2021 01:06:45
One of Ole's big failings in his first year was trusting Lingard for so long in the number 10 position with no assists and no goals.

Now he is playing well elsewhere it is why the club is badly run? Except the club has moved on and now has Fernandes and Greenwood playing in the 2 positions I could see jesse getting a game. So who exactly would you drop for him?


5.) 06 Apr 2021 06:21:25
It's amazing what can happen when a player changes their environment.

Mentality plays a big role, and playing for Manchester United and under the intense media glare and scrutiny that you just don't get at other clubs adds a level of pressure that not all players can live with.

I like Lingard and I hope he makes the Euro squad for England and he has a good career.

At United he was able to play well when things were going well, but when the chips were down and suddenly his every move on the pitch was being pulled apart he couldn't deal with it.

Add to that all the off field issues he was having and it's hardly surprising he struggled the way he did.

He needs to move on for his career, as do a few others in our squad who are talented but maybe lack the mentality to deal with the pressure and expectancy of playing for United.


6.) 06 Apr 2021 07:58:10
Caolin


Lukaku scores goals, plays like a centre forward, a proper coach in Conte behaved like a bit of a prat before he left as well. Good player but limited, I’ve seen people below say haaland is another lukaku and they don’t want him. I personally liked lukaku, but he tended to go missing for big chunks and especially in the big domestic games.

Lingard had been poor for a very long time with us, and had many well documented pressures off the pitch. New environments can bring out the best in players.

Romero hasn’t been number 2 because Henderson is back, he’s leaving in the summer anyway and is handsomely paid. If de gea has an issue with being dropped well tough. He’s been well below his standards and hasn’t shown signs of getting back.

Bailly can’t play 10 games in a row, why would any manager or club trust him and make him first choice.

Is dalot tearing up any trees in Milan? Good going forward but in his games here he showed he was no where near good enough defensively.

If United want to be winning trophies consistently they need better than every name you’ve mentioned in your post and I 100% include James and Martial (who would be first gone if I had a say) .


7.) 06 Apr 2021 08:11:31
Caolin

Apologies reply may have been pressed when I started to answer.

Lukaku scores goals, improved when a proper coach, Conte started actually coaching him. No longer limited and now they talk about his value having gone up to £100m since we sold him. Funny how Lukaku plus our other rejects are about to win the league. Yes different league but Lukaku consistently scored goals, yet Ole thought he didn’t need replacing because of Martial. Great decision.

Lingard wouldn’t be first choice but instead of dealing with him, Ole brought in James.

You said Romero hasn’t been number 2 because Henderson is back. Romero was treated appallingly by Ole, disgusting. Ole brought back Henderson then dithered over what to do, now he has devalued DDG, brilliant management.

“Bailly can’t play 10 games in a row, why would any manager or club trust him and make him first choice. ”Squad rotation, Ole moaned like hell and gave the excuse about tiredness, yet didn’t give Bailly a game when easily could have, brilliant management.

“Is dalot tearing up any trees in Milan? Good going forward but in his games here he showed he was no where near good enough defensively. ” Ole bought AWB who can defend but can’t attack, then praises him for his attacking ability which isn’t there, ships the attacking fullback in Dalot out. Now wants the club to buy another right back. Genius

The theme through this is management of players, the improvement by coaching, the decision making on players and how to treat human beings.


8.) 06 Apr 2021 09:04:39
Lukaku was lazy, didn’t score in big games and complained if he had to play on the right. It’s easy to look at previous players at new clubs and say we shouldn’t have let him go. However, look at his time here. First 10 games he was unplayable and scored buckets. After that he was sporadic, gained weight and to be honest got lazy. I love the idea of the player lukaku can be, but we hardly seen it. With his pace and power he shouldn’t be able to be handled so easily at times. He also wanted out from March, refused to play a game on pre season and leaked sensitive data from the clubs testing on his Twitter account.

Ole has tried to replace Lukaku surely it’s been obvious? Chased haaland and the club didn’t get it done, Cavani has come in and now as Ed says we are looking a striker, so that’s just something you’ve come up with.

De gea was devalued the moment the club gave an out of form player an absurd contract that no other club in the world would have done.

Lingard was a regular right up until Bruno joined and James played on the right wing. Jesse isn’t a right winger so ole didn’t go for James over him. Bolloxolgy that one. Either way, we need better than both to win a title.

Squad rotation, look at Liverpool redman. Unsettled centre half pairings are not good. You don’t rotate that area every week as it causes uncertainty. I think Bailly is probably the best defender at the club if fit, but when he can say play 25 games a season, or you get 50 out of lindelof and maguire I know who I’m choosing.

Romero didn’t want to be a number 3- but he’s handsomely paid and can go wherever now. I don’t agree with his treatment but if ole wants Henderson as his number one long term then that’s his call.

The club it seems are looking for cover at right back, rather than a first Teamer. Would dalot want to be cover? Probably not so again you move him on and get someone more willing to do the role. I like wan bissaka, he’s a defender first which I like and he is improving going forward.

Simple fact here red man is that we need better players than any of the ones you’ve mentioned, we probably need a better manager and coaching staff, but the club isn’t geared up to be a football club, it’s a business. Ole wanted players he’s not got and ended up with lesser players.

Jose the same, Van Gaal the same. In his final years the same happened for Sir Alex. Spot the theme.


9.) 06 Apr 2021 11:19:09
spot on caolan 2!
we are a squad laden with high paid underperformers that we cannot or will have to pay huge sums to shift on.


10.) 06 Apr 2021 14:53:05
Lukaku is playing better in an inferior league.

Romero is an expensive but quality back up. I'd be fine have Tom Heaton on the bench

Dalot has shown nothing in his time at Milan or Utd.

Bailly is an accident waiting to happen in both meanings.

Lingard is good for West Ham where he has more space but has been awful for 2y.

All of the above would be described as dead wood by many posters.

I'm not sure why people need to find stuff to moan about.

I honestly think as soon as there's a Fred replacement signed you'll see Ole bin him too.


11.) 06 Apr 2021 18:17:09
Caolin

“Ole has tried to replace Lukaku surely it’s been obvious? ”

Yes Ole said Martial was a wonderful player, we didn’t need one, then signed Ighalo, then extended his contract at vast cost, then didn’t play him.

The decision on DDG should have been made last summer, especially if Ole had decided he wanted Henderson as No1 but a ditherer is in charge and Romero should not have been treated the way he was.

I don’t much care for Lingard but to spend £15m on James and freeze Lingard out is not a good method. Agree neither are good enough but again we have dithered, then bought two youngsters who haven’t really played at all.


12.) 06 Apr 2021 18:33:37
Sorry Red Man but you are letting your own personal opinion of Ole get in the way of facts.

Should he come out and say “martial isn’t good enough but he’s the only option I have”? Ed has said many times to ignore what managers say in public. So many people react to anything Ole says in a press conference, I personally don’t give a damn.

Perhaps Ole wanted the two of them to compete? De gea and Henderson should be bringing out the best in each other. De gea has been very poor by his extremely high standards for a long long time. Henderson might be doing more in training. What difference does having Romero sat on the bench have? It’s just something you want to use to have a go at Ole. Romero is very well paid for what he does, the club never stopped paying him and he has offers on the table. He had no ambition to be our number 1 so as the above posters have said I’d take someone like Tom Heaton back on half the wages.

Where are you getting that Lingard was frozen out for James? They play different positions and Lingard was a regular right up to the signing of Bruno. Lingard was not good enough for a year- he was never frozen out. James was a regular until greenwood really stepped up after the lockdown.

I’ve said above we need to improve in so many areas to take the next step, that’ll be on the pitch and those off it. I know you don’t like ole, it’s well documented. The points you’ve made don’t make sense to me, it just seems another way to have a go, but realistically not one single player you mentioned or have a problem about the treatment off are good enough, or did not perform good enough when here.


 

 

21 Feb 2021 08:52:50
Very big game today lads. We have to keep ticking along and taking these points. Newcastle are an okay team but I believe that we have too much for them.

City will run away with it but 2/ 3/ 4 is anyone's. We have to make it ours.

angelred

1.) 21 Feb 2021 09:10:19
We should have had too much for West Brom but were actually lucky to get a draw. Newcastle aren't that great and are missing a few players with injuries so on paper we should be able to get all 3 points but we never know.

2nd place is up for grabs but I don't trust us go on a long run and cement a top 2 finish.


2.) 21 Feb 2021 11:18:10
Newcastle are a weird sort of side, often playing poorly, but likely to spring a surprise result every now and again.

While Wilson is a big loss for them it looks like Saint-Maximin has started to find form after suffering since he had C.V.

We should win this game fairly easily on paper, which is why I have a slight concern as it tends to be these sort of games that we lose this season.

Fingers crossed we turn up and get the job done.


3.) 21 Feb 2021 11:30:09
Apparently C.V. has struck, some coaching staff and players are out. Don’t know who or how many but the game is going ahead anyway apparently. Story in the daily mail.


4.) 21 Feb 2021 13:32:23
Nicky Butt will be on the coaching staff today, so happy with that.


 

 

25 Jan 2021 19:09:25
Not sure if anyone has said on here.

But I have to say, Luke Shaw, has really turned it around. Since the signing of Telles, I believe he has transformed into a very reliable player, finally starting to come of age. Fair play to him and I'm happy to say it. I've been very critical of him, justifiably at times, but he really has dug in and worked hard on his game.

He's been superb and well done to him. I hope that it continues for years to come.

angelred

1.) 25 Jan 2021 20:00:34
Yep, he was everywhere yesterday. His improving in all areas of his game. He looks a bit trimmer as well, let’s hope he’s turned a corner and got back on track.


2.) 25 Jan 2021 20:20:29
He was probably at fault for the first goal yesterday but I can kind of forgive him for that, Liverpool can rip any team apart, going forward he has been fantastic for a few weeks now. He suddenly looks really fast and is making clever runs that end up creating something. Fair play to him for really stepping up.


3.) 25 Jan 2021 20:41:32
He has played well last couple of seasons now.
He was at fault for the goal and for the salah chance when he went 1 on 1 with ddg. Had better games imo.


4.) 25 Jan 2021 21:03:55
Been great to see him grow though. He's been extremely consistent recently, long may it continue.


5.) 26 Jan 2021 05:50:31
Hes been very good!


6.) 26 Jan 2021 06:56:48
He is finally fulfilling his potential.
He is one of those whose career has progressed since Ole has taken over. Another reason is excellent competition from Telles.


7.) 26 Jan 2021 10:33:11
Shaw is setting the standard for AWB who needs to look at what Shaw is doing and up his game.

One thing I found particularly encouraging is signs of understanding and an emerging partnership with Rashford down the left.


8.) 26 Jan 2021 10:44:42
Shaw has quietly been very good for the past 18 months, I think this season its more obvious because we actually have Telles who could displace him. So suddenly everyone is watching Shaw's performances a little more closely waiting to see if he should be dropped for Telles. What people are realising atm is that Shaw is every bit equal to Telles and maybe even a shade better.


9.) 26 Jan 2021 11:37:50
MancMan, I wonder is Shaw forming a close bond with Rashford down the left has anything to do with him knowing how Rashford likes to feed the hungry? 😂😂😂.


10.) 26 Jan 2021 12:23:57
Bravo Shappy, bravo.


11.) 26 Jan 2021 14:56:37
Good point Shappy, in fact come to think of it why is Shaw not at the forefront of the free meals campaign?

Surely he'd be a natural enthusiast.


 

 

24 Jan 2021 19:40:35
That was a great win.

Very happy to see Ole learn from the last game and go for them, not to be afraid as they are not the greatest at the minute. Confidence riding high, long may it continue!

angelred

1.) 24 Jan 2021 20:14:37
That was fun!


2.) 24 Jan 2021 20:19:24
Great win is right.
Rash on the left caused lots if problems. He has to play there stop shunting him around to fit pillocks like martial into the team.
It is a bit like watching Burnley with better strikers but as long as we win i won't be complaining.
Klopps having a mare right now and that quite enjoyable too😂.


3.) 24 Jan 2021 20:31:38
Ken I agree. Rashford, greenwood and cavani has got to be our front three. So much more movement from them. Cavani made an error for the second goal, but aside from that he was good today. His work rate is amazing. I hope he can play in front a full old Trafford before he eventually calls it a day because he would get some ovation. Terrific attitude.


4.) 24 Jan 2021 20:32:33
Harsh ken, I thought we played some lovely stuff today.


5.) 24 Jan 2021 20:42:47
Caolan_2, agreed!
Cavani is a rubbish bag of a player. He puts it about and makes a real nuisance of himself. I really wish we had him 5-6 years ago.
If we can find a suitable replacement if be happy.


6.) 24 Jan 2021 20:45:39
Congrats on the win, made us pay for our mistakes. Now allow me to be sick in my mouth 🤮😁.


7.) 24 Jan 2021 20:55:28
Haaland should be brought in and have Cavani around him for the next 2 seasons. Drop the interest in Sancho too imo.


8.) 24 Jan 2021 22:54:24
Top of the league but "Burnley with better strikers".
Dear me.


9.) 24 Jan 2021 23:02:38
You lot was the better team over the 90 odd mins and deserved the win.


 

 

22 Oct 2020 09:20:30
Interesting few games ahead now starting with Chelsea. Hoping we can pick up where we left off on Tuesday night.

Realistically, where would we like to see this team be placed come Christmas? What would everyone be happy with?

angelred

1.) 22 Oct 2020 10:20:50
Angel I honestly couldn’t predict. This will be a strange season, if we can win our next 3 in the league which is a big ask I think we will be right up the league. This will be an interesting season with players dropping like flies to injuries or C.V.


2.) 22 Oct 2020 12:20:22
First angel?


3.) 22 Oct 2020 12:45:16
Top of the league!


4.) 22 Oct 2020 13:20:54
If we can keep the intensity we showed on Tues night then top. The hard part though is keeping up that intensity on lesser occasions, that is where SAF was the master.


 

 

 

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30 Apr 2021 07:58:44
270 pound a week, he meant ed.

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10 Jan 2021 12:26:37
Williams is a right footed LB but can of course play RB. Good little player. Shame we don't see him as much.

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08 Jan 2021 22:06:43
DVB is a cracker of a little player and I find it so strange that he can not get a start ahead of pogba who has been nothing short of abysmal. No wonder he has been offered about, I feel sorry for him.

Nothing about building a team around him, but surely he is worth more than how he has been treated since his arrival.

We can say he needs more time to settle bla bla but what Ole did the other night to him was extremely disrespectful.

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15 Dec 2020 00:00:17
Shappy, Ronaldo is a phenom, he may have declined but he is far superior than a lot of players in our squad.

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23 Oct 2020 15:54:52
TRD, I'm still much more convinced by Lindelof than I am Maguire.

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02 May 2021 19:01:26
Those images will be beamed around the world now. I'm not in total agreement with what the fans did today but sometimes they have to go that bit further (getting into the ground) to make their point. History tells us that.

I hope no one was injured, no arrests were made and the fans made their point. I hope they continue with protests but peaceful ones outside the ground.

angelred

{Ed014's Note - they will be but as always the tv will show fans damaging property and those within the ground drinking from bottles of beer whilst taking selfies!

Ensure Old Trafford, Anfield and the Emirates are empty after fans are allowed to return would be the huge turning point and that show of going that bit further.


 

 

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30 Apr 2021 07:57:55
Good post ken. I think it's as talented a bunch of players England have ever had.

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Tony, don't poke the bear.

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21 Apr 2021 16:53:14
They just did apologise.

But they can stick it where the sun don't shine.

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21 Apr 2021 16:04:25
Ed001, wasn't he the owner that didn't know what colour of Jersey his team were wearing?

He doesn't give a hoot about Liverpool. He is lucky to own a club with such a history. He should be privileged, just as the glazers should be.

Get them all out.

angelred

{Ed001's Note - there are that many things he has done to embarrass the club, I have lost track. The three amigos have to go, they drove this idea.}