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12 Aug 2024 21:24:10
Sander Berge left out of Burnley's squad for their first game of the season this evening.
Seems to suggest that there is something in the rumours of him leaving. Will it be to ourselves, or to someone else?
1.) 12 Aug 2024 22:06:16
He’s also missed most of pre season with the same injury that kept him out of tonight. Nice try Shappy!
2.) 13 Aug 2024 07:53:27
Romanoesque!
3.) 13 Aug 2024 08:58:48
Be a shame to not keep the trend of signing injury prone players going!
4.) 13 Aug 2024 11:45:59
Wazza, where did you hear he is injured, I've scoured the internet and not found any mention of him being injured. The Burnley manager didn't mention him as being out injured.
5.) 13 Aug 2024 12:47:50
He has not played any pre season due to injury so was not considered last night and it was reported at the match last night that he was left out due to that reasoning.
6.) 13 Aug 2024 12:50:09
Shappy, Parker said so, and confirmed it's what has kept him out of some pre-season fixtures.
You can't have Googled too long as it's the first thing that comes up when searching Sander Berge injury.
"He picked up an injury in Spain. He had a bit of discomfort in his quad. It's not a big injury, it's quite a small injury to be honest with you. "
Nice clickbait though!
7.) 13 Aug 2024 13:33:59
Wazza to be fair I searched last night and that article you've quoted was published at midday today, 15 minutes AFTER I posted saying I hadn't seen anything to say he was injured.
From what I read he was expected to be in the squad and wasn't, which seemed suspicious. As it was he is injured, so that's that then.
12 Jul 2024 18:16:32
Sancho back at the club and training with the first team.
Apparently talks between Sancho and EtH have taken place and they've agreed to draw a line under the situation.
He will now be available to take part in pre-season games.
Is this a case that Sancho has realised his options weren't as good as he thought?
Or is this the player and the club doing what is needed to push up the offers to facilitate his move away.
I guess we'll see what happens over the next couple of months.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 19:28:08
If true, my opinion of ETH has gone up a little. Sancho still has a long way to go.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 19:55:26
Or sancho has realised this board ain’t getting rid of another manager for players and he’s having to knuckle down
Still hope he’s gone tho.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 20:02:32
2 adults in a room, having a chat.
It's surely a bit of both, no offers and ETH drawing a line, giving a clean slate to align with the current mood of the club. Everything is new.
I hope he can put his head down and make the best of his second chance at the club.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 20:08:07
Hopefully just the club strengthening their position, and Sancho isn’t smart enough to be any the wiser.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 21:17:13
Well this is interesting. People can and do have the right to change their minds. He’s better than Antony who Ed said was available for transfer, and with Greenwood on the way out and likely Pellestri too, makes sense for him and Amad to compete.
Plus he can play 10. Why not let bygones be bygones. If he wants to come back and show the form he shows in Dortimund then awesome for both parties.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 21:41:06
I’m in the get rid camp. Glad they’ve come to an amicable cease fire, but a Leopard doesn’t change its spots and he’s still the petulant kid that fell out with the boss in the first place.
7.) 12 Jul 2024 23:45:46
I would suspect that the big boys “suggested” that ETH needed to sort it out between them both as well as Sancho realising he was damaging his chances.
I am also in the out basket.
8.) 13 Jul 2024 06:24:10
I don't really care about the detail of what has happened and him being back and no issues with it. The realty is he has been poor for us even before the spat under previous managers barring the odd game and not sure he can cut it at united and hence selling him would be ideal.
9.) 13 Jul 2024 06:54:52
Agreed Ahmad.
Beyond what happened, he’s not very good and needs to be moved on.
The laziness and ego are part of his personality, people don’t change.
10.) 13 Jul 2024 07:10:46
As Ahmad said he has been at the club three years now, hasn't set the world alight has he?
Maybe the wages are putting people off, clearly he has the ability and mentality as we saw at Dortmund, unfortunately the consistency might never be there and he is destined to sit the last few years of his contract out at United.
I guess this doesn't help our PSR and getting some of the big wage earners out.
{Ed001's Note - when was this fabled Sancho ability shown at Dortmund? If people had actually watched him play, instead of reading his PR bull, they would have known he was terrible there except when coming on very late as a sub. Even then, it was more down to rank amateur defending that he got decent stats. He is so far up his own backside that he can lick his own tonsils and will not achieve anything until he grows up.}
11.) 13 Jul 2024 09:20:52
Absolutely spot on Ed001. People saw highlights of that game against PSG and couldn’t see past it. He was no good for Dortmund, couldn’t hold down a starting place, and his G&A numbers were as poor there as they’ve been for us. That’s without mentioning his attitude and mentality.
The last headline I read started “England International Jadon Sancho…”. PR nonsense.
12.) 13 Jul 2024 09:44:51
I will still be surprised to see Sanchi still with the club once the window shuts.
However this allows for him to show what he can do in pre season, see whether he can reintegrate with the new coaching structure.
Would not be surprised if he still moves late in the window.
13.) 13 Jul 2024 10:11:47
We dropped a bomb buying him, and now we are paying for it, no one will pay the money we want or the wages either so to get rid we are still going to end up subsidising his wages.
Not surprised they made up, there wasn't really a choice, it doesn't look good on Sancho but neither does it on United. I rather suspect that's all parties are working together to find a solution that will involve him playing elsewhere next year.
14.) 13 Jul 2024 10:19:39
Absolutely bang on the money Ed001. Bang on it. Get rid asap.
15.) 13 Jul 2024 21:34:15
Get rid. Bad attitude and not good enough anyway. Not worth the hassle.
16.) 14 Jul 2024 07:25:17
Ed 1 is totally correct here. It’s total PR spin, because even though I know he’s not a great player, and all my Cory fan mates say the same, my mind still thinks he should get a (yet another) chance. It’s brainwashing. He’s done nothing positive of note since he joined the club, and Italian and German leagues are far more suitable for him than the rigours of the Premier League.
Being him back, get him training and fit, sell him for maximum value. Smart move by the club.
If he does stay, he now has to win back over the fans too who frankly want rid.
03 Dec 2023 12:53:13
Heard a rumour today that United and Barcelona are exploring the possibility of swapping Sancho and Raphinha initially on loan, but with a possible view to it becoming a permanent deal if it works out.
If there is any truth to this then I think its a possible deal that could work out for all parties.
United and Sancho need to part ways, while Sancho probably doesn't want to take a step down/ backwards.
United really need someone who can lock down the RW spot, and Raphinha was one of the best RW players while at Leeds.
Unfortunately for him it seems Xavi doesn't quite rate him, despite him playing well when called upon.
Stylistically I tend to think that Sancho does fit better in a side like Barcelona and Raphinha in a side like United.
I'd be pretty happy if the club managed to pull something like this off, what is everyone else's view?
1.) 03 Dec 2023 15:28:02
I mean I’d be delighted if we can pull that off. But I can’t see it.
2.) 03 Dec 2023 21:44:52
Sounds like a computer game transfer to me.
3.) 03 Dec 2023 21:52:43
Would rip your arm off for that deal but it’s all pie in the sky.
4.) 05 Dec 2023 01:58:03
We could do with new negotiators, or they might come back from Spain with a bunch of Rapini.
5.) 05 Dec 2023 09:07:03
Shappy
Wishful thinking. Why would Barcelona do that. He will end up somewhere in Italy as that's generally the league players end up when they don't work out in PL. He is not good enough for any of the top 3/ 4 teams in Spain and unaffordable for any in the next tier.
Its one of those players who will be hard to shift unless we take a bath on the transfer.
6.) 05 Dec 2023 21:09:51
Rumours today it’s Rashford ??♂️.
7.) 09 Dec 2023 20:22:57
I’d be happy if Rashford went tbh along with Sancho. The pair of ‘em aren’t bad players, as long as they get their own way. We aren’t currently in a place where we can carry talented babies though, so I’d get radical and get rid of the pair.
08 Jul 2023 14:41:19
DDG is gone, club just wished him well and said goodbye on Twatter.
1.) 08 Jul 2023 14:49:36
Great servant, but right time for MU and himself to move on, some of the replies made my blood boil though, clearly not fans but even still. he's got my respect and wish him well in his next venture.
2.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!
He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)
Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?
3.) 08 Jul 2023 15:43:50
Our best player over the last 12 years, gutted he is going but it is the right time for him and the club.
4.) 08 Jul 2023 15:22:56
He's big, he's brave he's Spanish Dave
He makes great saves, he never shaves,
Flying through the air
Come and have a shot if you dare!
He indeed has been a great servant as well as a true professional in his behaviors. He will inevitably divide some on opinions, but no one can doubt some of the class saves over the years (Mata's freekick)
Ed002, what teams would be interested? Roma? Saudi clubs?
{Ed002's Note - David De Gea (G) If Mr Mourinho stays at Roma, then perhaps interest. Perhaps someone in Spain or the Middle East. Manchester United have a list of potential replacements but want a new contract.}
5.) 09 Jul 2023 07:07:25
Good time for both parties to move on. Clearly looked very uncomfortable under ETH’s system. That being said, a brilliant keeper for us over the years. Wish him all the best. Italy seems an obvious move in the absence of decent Spanish interest - or of course Saudi!
28 May 2023 09:30:51
Heard a rumour this morning that United might look at Benjamin Pavard from Bayern Munich, as well as closely monitoring the situation with Ryan Gravenberch.
Bayern yesterday sacked their CEO Oliver Kahn and their Sporting Director Hasan Salihamidzic, possibly opening the door for some players to leave who might have been intending to stay under the previous regime.
Pavard would be an interesting option, capable of playing both CB and RB he'd be a very good option.
Gravenberch too has great potential but just can't get the game time he needs with players like Kimmich and Goretzka ahead of him.
1.) 28 May 2023 09:50:18
Think Ed002 said that Pavard is reluctant to consider us because he wants to play primarily as a cb.
2.) 28 May 2023 11:30:14
A RB who can also chip in at CB is a good shout, as is Frimpong.
I think Bayern have a number of players who should be of interest. I assume the Mount thing has legs and if so that would probably kill off any interest in Gravenberch and De Jong, and what of Sabitzer.
3.) 28 May 2023 12:13:02
Interesting thread this and might have legs as we know Erik likes players who can play multiple positions to limit the impact of injuries in the squad.
4.) 28 May 2023 13:25:20
Back in February, it was reported that his expected fee this summer could be £26.8m because his contract is up next year - that would amount to a bargain.
That said, it's likely that Bayern would still want more than that for a versatile defender approaching his prime.
The problem is that he wants to play CB and there can be no assurances offered by United that he'll be first-choice ahead of Varane.
He can play RB, but he might be reluctant about coming to a club where that could be his only consistent option.
That does also render Barcelona as a questionable option given that the superior Kounde is already playing RB to accommodate other players.
Personally, I'd expect him to move to a Serie A club.
5.) 28 May 2023 22:50:42
We really need to be looking at Gravenberch. I’m not sure if he’s even available but if he is and a a low price it’s a no brainier. Le fee is another player I hope we take a look at.
6.) 30 May 2023 10:44:36
varane missed 14 league games, went off 6 times, efl only played 90 mins in the final missed 4 games and subbed off once. Class act but never been consistantly fit for games throughout his career. Any cb coming in would get a minimum of 25 games a season if fit/ available.
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06 Jul 2025 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, How Manchester United's Summer Is Shaping Up
05 Jul 2025 13:23:50
Shappy has written an article entitled, How Manchester United's Summer Is Shaping Up
1.) 05 Jul 2025 19:04:54
Do you think United will spend 250 million this summer Shappy?
2.) 05 Jul 2025 21:57:20
If they bring in around £200 in sales there’s a chance.
Rashford, Anthony, Sancho, garnacho, malacia, Casemiro could bring in around £175?
There’s also the possibility of a bit extra coming from the onward sales of Elanga, Fernandez and greenwood which could bring in another 30-40m. Ifs and bits of course but it reduces the net spend a little.
Could yet be more surprise outgoings too, shaw, Onana, hoilund, baylindor.
With only domestic games to worry about we certainly don’t need a large squad.
3.) 06 Jul 2025 01:48:24
It is worth adding that in the one season Mbeumo and Watkins were in the same side, they each recorded their second best output for a season, albeit in the Championship - 16 goals and 7 assists for Mbeumo, while Watkins got 26 goals and 2 assists.
4.) 06 Jul 2025 10:49:23
Macko, if they can they will. I think there will need to be some clever accountancy to make it possible, along with moving on quite a few players.
5.) 06 Jul 2025 12:48:55
It's not about the amount they spend it's who they spend that matters
I don't care if they sign three or four relatively unknown players for £100m if those players make the team better and help provide a platform for sustainable improvement.
6.) 06 Jul 2025 17:50:00
There is a long way to go in the window Shappy but i don't think there will be a queue of teams lined up to spend 40 million on your 5 wantaway players.
But as you said, with clever accounting, I reckon you're probably right and they may spend that much.
Alot of other teams are exploiting accountancy loopholes. be rude not to.
23 Jun 2025 07:39:03
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22 Jun 2025 13:36:30
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1.) 23 Jun 2025 03:11:37
Aren't some of the details incorrect in this overview?
As an example you mention a 7m profit for one player, returns a 7m injection into the transfer kitty. That would be true if we were buying a player on a one year contract and outright, but aren't there accountancy trickeries at play when it comes to new players over the length of their contract, for instance, you could buy a player for say 35m on a 5yr contract with that 7m.
If someone has the details of this to add for clarity it would be greatly appreciated!
2.) 23 Jun 2025 12:59:11
Jimbo, the trickery you are refering to is the amount the club has to spend during that financial year and the amount that is amortised.
7m profit is still 7m.
Now if we buy a player for 35m on a fiver year deal then that amortises as 7m a season.
So in theory a 7m profit could accommodate the club buying a 35m players. Yet the reality is that the whole 35m will need to be paid at some point.
The subsequent 28m that goes out at 7m each summer has to come from somewhere and could limit future spending.
Likewise while a fee might be amortised over the length of a contract, the actual amount the club have to spend might be different.
That 35m fee might be amortised at 7m a year over the five years of the contract. But the club will likely have to pay more than 7m upfront to the selling club. If we have to pay 20m of the fee up front with the rest in installments over the next couple of years then it becomes a cashflow issue. We might have got the whole 7m in from the club we sold a player to. But if we have to pay 20m this year to the club we are buying the replacement from then we will need to find an extra 13m in cash to pay for it.
3.) 23 Jun 2025 14:02:52
Thisnis an incomplete overview in some ways Shappy. We already have £43m in additional revenues from cost cutting measures.
We also have wage reductions to our players salaries, having seen Ericsen, Lindelof and Evans leave, which gives another £15m freedom up per year. So that's £50m plus in cashflow.
Getting Rashford and Sancho off the books saves £30m a year in wages, there is plenty of interesting both, and whatever their posturing, their egos will be aware uts a world cup year next year so they will be biting the bullet and lowering their demands without united being over a barrel to make up the difference, which has been their agents play thus far. But United aren't going to be mugged off any longer they claim.
Same applies to Garnacho although his much lesser wages make it easier to move him anywhere else anyway.
But the point about looking at Rashford and Sanchonis that you cana actually afford a world class star to come in with that £30m, perhaps a £65 to £70m fee amortised to around £13 to £14m a year on a 5 year deal, and wages of upto £200k a week (u likely, United now won't go above £7m a year basic and the rest in add ons and bonuses for appearances and goals or wins bonuses. So, that makes a total of £21 to £24m a year leaving headroom and bringing in a new player.
Finally, Radcliffe was cute with his comments, because he's laid it out as a United problem, and its not, its how football finance works. So, by claiming we are cash strapped we can start to put to bed lowball offers for our players and also ensure that we don't overpay either.
The players he mentioned are of course ones surplus to our requirements, or a little more challenging to sell. But that's thansk the rank amateurs who were in charge of recruitment and finance. Farcical and years of neglectful operating models.
Plus Garnacho and Rashford are not going to be sold for the pittance you claim. I don't see those two leaving for any less than £90m between tbem and far more likely above £100m once the window is in full swing. Nothing has started yet in earnest. Mid July will see a lot of action. I doubt much happens until then, and it will be much clearer picture in a month from now where we really stand.
4.) 23 Jun 2025 19:48:27
Shappy in your example you have plucked 20m from the skies. It could conceivably be 5 equal payments of 7m, and that has equally been plucked from the sky.
Yes I appreciate the balance of say 28m will need to be found elsewhere in time, but your initial essay suggests if we sell a player for 7m profit, we are limited to a 7m purchase, which is horse.
5.) 23 Jun 2025 21:14:15
Captain obvious the only club that had a strong interest in Rashford was Villa, and with them missing out on CL footy and their high wage bill they cannot afford him anymore. Barcelona has some minor interest in him but also has an issue with wages and it looks like they’re getting N. Williams. Real, PSG and Bayern have no need for him which pretty much only leaves Italy and they’re all pretty much broke.
Most of the above could also be applied to Garnacho although he will likely have lower wage demands than Rashford which would work in his favour. Napoli have the strongest interest in Garnacho but like all Italian teams will likely not pay more than £50m max especially when you consider they sold kvaratskhelia for £60m.
19 Jun 2025 07:39:03
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06 Jul 2025 19:31:41
German, he did pretty well at Villa, was chased by Arsenal and considering by City, won the supporters and players player of the season awards in 2022/ 23, and Juventus ended up paying €50m for him. Not an insignificant amount.
He got 10 goals and 10 assists in his final season at Villa while playing deeper in the double pivot.
I think most people who have watched him in the EPL for Villa appreciate he is a very good player.
06 Jul 2025 16:14:15
German, Douglas Luiz made 175 appearances for Aston Villa between 2019 and 2024.
He's very much proven in the EPL.
He's a different kind of midfielder to Casemiro. Less combative, but better on the ball.
Peak Casemiro was a better player than Luiz has been, but right now in the EPL Douglas Luiz would be the better player. Casemiro just hasn't got the stamina for the EPL anymore unfortunately.
05 Jul 2025 15:18:25
Rashford will do well if he goes to a top side. He's a very good player, but lacks consistency. With better players around him his dips won't be as noticeable, while he will also get more time and space on the ball so will likely score and assist more.
05 Jul 2025 15:16:50
I like Douglas Luiz and he's a great player to have in the EPL. I'm not sure he's the ideal partner in midfield for Bruno, and seems more suited to play alongside an Ugarte type player.
A swap deal could be very smart, as the clubs can inflate the value of the players in the swap to show a greater profit on the books. For Juventus it means they can breakeven on Luiz, for us it will probably show a small profit.
04 Jul 2025 22:50:25
2toms, there is a world of difference between the situations of Vlahovic and Muani in terms of why it didn't work out with their big moves.
Muani literally signed for PSG one day and before he could even kick a ball for them they hired a new manager who wanted his strikers to play a very different way. He was never really given a chance. Even then he still scored at a respectable rate given his limited game time.
Vlahovic on the other hand has never stepped up despite repeated and consistent opportunities and chances for him to do so. Despite his significant game time he has regressed in a not too dissimilar way to Højlund. Given chance after chance after chance with every passing game him looking worse.
Vlahovic is also on massive wages, and would be our second highest earner only behind Casemiro if he was to join in his current salary.
While his comments align with the eye test of him being a lazy player off the ball. He doesn't want to have to sweat for the team.
For me he's definitely a player I'd avoid.
06 Jul 2025 16:17:53
UA, are all these toys on the floor from your pram?
06 Jul 2025 16:17:14
Not a player I'd sign personally, but it very much depends on why we are signing him.
If he's the only striker we sign the. That's not great. If we sign a top class striker and bring in DCL on a short term deal, that is heavily weighted on performance bonuses with a smaller base salary, as a back up then I don't see much of a problem with that.
06 Jul 2025 10:49:23
Macko, if they can they will. I think there will need to be some clever accountancy to make it possible, along with moving on quite a few players.
05 Jul 2025 10:05:57
It's the internet, there is no middle ground. Whatever your view or opinion is it gets pushed into one of two categories at the extreme of the polar opposites.
If a new player doesn't immediately hit the ground running and you say give them time then that gets twisted into you having low standards, being delusional, or not understanding football.
Ultimately unhappy people tend to express their opinions far more than contented people. Which is why the internet and social media is best avoided after a loss as the hyperbole really does suggest it's the end of the world.
Unhappy people lash out and it makes it polarising. People are forced to pick sides and we forget that we are all on the SAME side, just with different opinions.
As a club we are going through a tough patch after years of unprecedented success. That was always likely to be difficult for the more emotional fans to handle.
Ed002 was fantastic at cutting though the crap and just telling people how it was. Sarcastic and blunt at times, but always honest.
He is missed from this site for that as much as his excellent knowledge and titbits he'd share that he'd learned through his contacts in football.
It does feel that this first summer transfer window without him that the site is flying blind and in need of that authoritative father figure to knock us down a peg and to get us to settle down.
05 Jul 2025 09:54:39
It shows a great attitude, I hope he does well. Grit, determination, confidence and self-belief are vital for a young player to succeed. That said if he does find it a tricky step up then hopefully he is humble enough to take that step back and accept that a loan might be best for his development.
He's done really well so far in his career but there is a long way to go before he's a bonafide top level player. I think with Amorim as manager playing with wingbacks, meaning that the player has slightly less defensive responsibility. Along with the fact that we haven't got anyone who has nailed down that spot, with only Dorgu and Amass who are both young themselves as competition for a starting spot that Leon has an very good chance of playing regularly if he can step up (and it's a massive step up to the EPL from what he's experienced so far) .
Personally I think Dorgu will be the regular starter, with Amass and Leon fighting it out to be the back up next season. I expect they will get their chances to show who is most ready for it during pre-season. Only one should stay as back up, with the other heading out on loan to get the experience they need at this age. My worry would be if both stay then neither will get enough minutes to develop as they should.
I wouldn't be surprised if whoever ends up going out on loan actually leapfrogs the other one when they come back if they are a regular starter while on loan. At their ages it's all about game time. The more they get the more they develop. Whoever plays the most minutes next season will probably be the better player come the end of the season.