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17 Jun 2019 19:34:47
Ed002, Just wondering if the recent media reports of United having an interest in Issa Diop has any substance or if it's just media fantasy?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - West Ham implied there has been some interest.}
1.) 17 Jun 2019 20:19:03
Ed, has anything changed on the CB interest front aside from this?
Are the club in contact with any clubs regarding specific players?
{Ed002's Note - The club will have been talking to agents and to some clubs. If they persist with Diop them I think you can scratch KK from the list. And I gave an update recently.}
18 Mar 2019 22:19:22
Ed002, are United still interested in Carlos Soler? You mentioned him as a possible target a while back and I've kept a close eye on him since. Looks like he will be some player.
{Ed002's Note - No, but there is interest from another EPL side in Carlos Soler.}
1.) 19 Mar 2019 06:32:16
Thanks, that's a shame he looks like he will become a top player.
26 Jan 2019 08:49:10
Do the Ed's or any fellow posters know anything about the young 17 year old African midfielder Hanson MBopp we have been linked to this morning?
1.) 26 Jan 2019 09:15:01
One hit wonder.
2.) 26 Jan 2019 09:21:46
DDG 1, bravo, take the rest of the month off. You win the site. :)
3.) 26 Jan 2019 09:30:05
Shappy you ok lectured us a couple of weeks ago telling and urging us not to read these types of rumours. are you bi-polar šššš.
4.) 26 Jan 2019 10:17:53
DDG1, comment of the month, bravo šš».
5.) 26 Jan 2019 10:30:30
Saturday morning fishing Shappy?
DDG1 one for the archives that answer is!
6.) 26 Jan 2019 10:46:46
Duwudada doowapp.
7.) 26 Jan 2019 11:53:42
DDG1, I'll have to get up a little earlier if I want to catch you. lol. I was hoping everyone had been out celebrating last night, hoped I'd catch a few. lol.
8.) 26 Jan 2019 12:33:45
We're looking at quote a lot of young players. Hearing a lot of things about young Swiss midfielder Toby Le Rone.
9.) 26 Jan 2019 13:04:21
Mort, I've heard he's quite tasty. Lol.
10.) 26 Jan 2019 13:52:10
Good with triangles too.
11.) 26 Jan 2019 13:53:55
A bit up and down.
12.) 26 Jan 2019 14:17:42
Probably still be better than floppy keita.
13.) 26 Jan 2019 15:15:55
I hear heās a nougatāy young Midfielder.
Gets stuck in.
14.) 26 Jan 2019 15:54:06
A good run and this site is a joy to visit. Top work boys.
15.) 26 Jan 2019 18:49:05
I wonder what's happened to our cheerful friend Beast.
16.) 26 Jan 2019 23:02:49
I do miss beast he had some good input most of the time.
23 Jan 2019 11:58:06
Ed002, I see we are being linked in the press with a move for Paul Mitchell again. Obviously the fact that he has worked with Pochettino at two different clubs and Pochettino is apparently our number one target is the basis of these links.
Are the club interested in Mitchell? And what's your opinion of him as a candidate for the Director of football role our club is pursuing?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Red Bull think a lot of him and for the past couple of months have been exploring a new global role for him as another EPL side has shown an interest. I am not aware of any approach by MU.}
1.) 23 Jan 2019 18:31:19
Cheers, Ed002.
{Ed002's Note - I would not want to see MU opt for Mitchell. It would not work in my opinion, but maybe to really move a head the club need to take the knife to the bad part of the apple?}
2.) 23 Jan 2019 18:40:03
Which part of the club is the bad part, in your opinion, Ed?
{Ed002's Note - The pointed bit.}
3.) 23 Jan 2019 20:14:34
Fascinating, from what I can find out about Mitchell he sounds like a United fans dream. Looks towards youth, won't sign players to block the pathway of young players, has unearthed some great signings for the clubs he works for.
So why do you feel Mitchell wouldn't work? And what is the bad part of the apple you allude to?
Thanks.
4.) 24 Jan 2019 06:06:39
The problem with that Shappy is blooding youth and winning trophies in basically impossible at this current time. We have a few very talented kids coming through, but what manager would risk their job here trying to make sure the kids get their chance?
5.) 24 Jan 2019 06:46:23
Mumbles, the right one for our club. We have only ever had consistent success under two managers. Sir Matt and Sir Alex, both built that success on blooding youth players.
Giving youth a chance is what Manchester United is about, a 80 year record of having an academy graduate in the match day squad is unmatched by any club anywhere in the world.
6.) 24 Jan 2019 10:30:17
Thanks for the info ed. Is it true that Andrea Berta is reconsidering now that Jose has left? I thought he was one of the people who jose was happy to work with? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything happening with Andrea Berta right now.}
7.) 24 Jan 2019 11:06:28
Perfect thanks for the swift reply Ed.
8.) 24 Jan 2019 15:57:50
Isn't an apple with a pointed bit just a pear?
01 Nov 2018 21:36:19
Teams for the Matt Hawker Charity Cup 2019 - brought to you by Boyne Valley
15th June 2019
Ed001's - Lee's United
( C ) Ken
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Rustler
John From Wigan
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Crouchy
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Salah
Ed002's - Frunobulax Rovers
( C ) Koppite_68
Red Rout
Grandmaster Ramrod (GK)
Atko1982
Shappy
WelshScouse
WhiteYAYA
Mermaid Megger
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Cotsi
Groomy5
MK scouser
Jamesmack8
Big thanks to 077 for setting up the live chat, and to 001 and 002 for giving their time, and once again, supporting the football-rumours charity match, in aid of Macmillan Nurses and Seva Foundation.
Would love an attendance from fellow posters. I know most of use will be going out for some bevvies after. So well worth the trip guys.
1.) 02 Nov 2018 15:05:33
Don't worry Shaps, I got your back.
2.) 02 Nov 2018 16:43:52
And watch yours jamesš.
{Ed002's Note - I'll have a large gin and tonic please.}
3.) 02 Nov 2018 17:28:15
I think there might be more United fans on our team. So I guess the site will have to be on our side. lol.
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13 Jun 2019 13:52:03
So Saturday is the big day, the biggest match in world football, bigger than the FA cup final, bigger than the UCL final, bigger than the World cup final.
It's the Matt Hawker cup, a competition that the likes of Pogba, Rashford and De Gea could only dream of playing in. Well if that dream was a nightmare.
Ken, Jamesmack and myself are competing in it as well as a couple of other United supporters who's names escape me at the moment. However, mostly we will be being kicked by Scousers.
This is a charity event raising money for both the Seva foundation and McMillan.
All donations would be greatly received.
justgiving.com/crowdfunding/football-rumours
Many thanks, from myself, the Eds and Benny Baller who has put in a huge amount of work to make this event happen.
1.) 13 Jun 2019 17:20:26
It was too short notice for me but i am definitely up. for it next year. Good luck and enjoy boys and do not get injured.
2.) 13 Jun 2019 18:53:09
Would have loved to have joined to spectate, however i am still settling in in Lisbon at present! Good luck lads, hopefully raise some good money for the good causes!
3.) 13 Jun 2019 20:14:37
I'm just recovering from an injury. I was very tempted though. Enjoy.
4.) 14 Jun 2019 12:09:29
Only i'm 'across the Shuck' i've had put my hat in :-) but maybe next time, enjoy lads.
11 Jun 2019 06:39:25
Gents. Now two spaces available for the football-rumours charity match. 1 on ed001s team and 1 on Ed002s team.
This Saturday, oxford city. If interested, let me know here.
This is always a great laugh and we'll worth it if you can make it.
1.) 11 Jun 2019 08:00:27
Is a great chance for the armchair experts to walk the walk. only because there is very little running. š if you're free guys its great craic.
2.) 11 Jun 2019 10:07:09
I will watch the live stream to scout the potentials and criticize the loud mouths :P :P Have fun guys!
3.) 11 Jun 2019 10:20:25
Its not often you get a chance to kick Ken, Shaps and myself lads. Its a great cause and if you don't fancy playing but live local, feel free to pop along and have a beer - the bar is open!
4.) 11 Jun 2019 10:50:51
Canāt wait to review the lineups and tactics on show from the two Edās ššš.
5.) 11 Jun 2019 11:16:04
I'd jump at this shappy but I'm not about this weekend. Enjoy yourselves lads.
6.) 11 Jun 2019 11:22:13
Don't bother about poor performances. We have our very own "Ed"s here. We will not be shipped out of this site. Enjoy guys . can't be there from as far as Nepal. But I dream to be at OT someday.
7.) 11 Jun 2019 11:43:03
I would love too, just too far away for me to get too! Enjoy the game lads.
8.) 11 Jun 2019 15:00:04
PR, welcome to the page mate. Where exactly in Nepal are you?
And guys if you are able to make it, you won't find a better chance to give the old man a kick. Ken, beware you may get some legs flying at you, ;)
9.) 11 Jun 2019 18:38:23
I can look after myself deeps. no worries on that front. š.
07 Jun 2019
New image uploaded to the
Manchester United Player Sightings page entitled, Who is this?
1.) 07 Jun 2019 09:53:01
Says Rashy so Probably Rashford.
2.) 07 Jun 2019 10:55:24
Rashford and luke shaw?
3.) 07 Jun 2019 12:06:59
Could he be developing a bit of an ego with personalised bling? I would expect that of Pogba, but Rashford? Influenced maybe?
4.) 07 Jun 2019 12:29:55
Does pogba even have his own personalised āblingā?
Does it reallly matter?
Should we be that concerned what these guys do, buy and wear in their personal time?
Probably not.
5.) 07 Jun 2019 12:39:45
Dsg, yes we should, as they clearly allow all the hype and social media rubbish to interfere with their football matters. As was clearly displayed this year with pogba, lingard and Rashford.
6.) 07 Jun 2019 13:49:22
I'd rather they spent their down time on social media or launching fashion brands, than sitting in the pub or the bookies.
7.) 07 Jun 2019 13:57:52
God forbid people have a life away from their job.
They could be up to much worse. Look at how many players have drink, drug, or gambling addictions. Or serial womanisers. The list is endless. If its too much of a distraction then yes. But I think its a bit much to blame 6 years of poor football on instagram.
8.) 07 Jun 2019 14:07:36
Lewis Hamilton wears bling, is very active on social media and jets all over world but he remains at the top of his sport. Rashford can wear what he wants, have a silly haircut if he likes, as long as he does the business on the pitch. The worry is he has lost his way.
9.) 07 Jun 2019 14:17:22
Oh the temerity of someone to spend his own money on something he wanted. The kids these days, during my time people use to earn money and then never use it. Everyone had their own Alibaba caves where the earnings went.
In other news old man yells at the clouds.
10.) 08 Jun 2019 17:14:21
I thinks very much a generational culture clash. It mainly seems to be middle aged guys bashing these twenty odd year old guys. The worlds changed and they can't cope with it. Then again footballers have been perceived of being a bit flash since the 60s a bit rick an roll. The lines of celebrity became blurred.
However I think there's also a racial undercurrent especially with Pogba. Would Souness and co spout off as much if he was some jack the lad from tyneside or the Wirral.
30 May 2019 17:15:54
The number of fans fawning Pogba is a little sad to say the least.
Forget how talented he might be.
Forget about his stats.
There really is only one thing that counts. Which is he doesn't want to be here. He doesn't love our club, he doesn't respect us, the club or his team mates. If he did he wouldn't be stoking the fires pandering for a move and strolling around the pitch like he's on a lazy Sunday afternoon walk.
He doesn't want to be here, and if we make him captain and the highest paid player, and we build our team around him then we will look like the biggest bunch of numpties in world football. Why would you reward a player who doesn't want to play for your club, it's madness.
As for fans defending him, and saying we need to build our team around him. It's a bit like moving to the same town as your ex-girlfriend, and planning your life around her. She doesn't want to be with you and you look a bloody fool. Plus you are going nowhere and you never will until you move on from her.
Our big girls blouse wants to leave, he has no interest in being a United legend, he has no interest in making history with our club, he doesn't care about us and he wants to live the Mediterranean life style in the sun, with a bevvy of women chasing after him while he picks up honours that are fought for by his teammates while he showboats, flaunts his fashion label on Instagram and bothers his barber every other day for a new haircut.
He might be talented enough to be a United player, but he lacks every other characteristic needed. He will never be a success here, further more and most importantly he doesn't want to be.
Sell him and move on. Or keep him and continue the same circus act we have seen for the last 6 years.
1.) 30 May 2019 17:30:59
It is sooner or later going to come to a head. If we're having to bribe players with things like the captaincy, higher wages or so on its just going to cause problems.
2.) 30 May 2019 17:49:10
Shappy - I loved Pogba but I'm now ambivalent. I have the same feelings about Martial. Neither have the desire or work ethic to succeed at our Club. Both like to strut around the pitch and will only play the game on their own terms. If their asked to fight or be disciplined or do a job for the team it's often met with disdain and contempt. Lukaku is another that for some reason doesn't feel he has to run or work hard. People complain about a lack of service but how often do you see him running the channels or pressing from the front, making angles for his teammates or even attacking the ball in the box.
If OGS thinks a pre season of shuttle runs and physical training will help whip these boys into shape he's already destined to go the same way as those before him.
The fact that all we want is 11 players that will just run and fight for the badge regardless of talent only demonstrates what we have become. A playground for the self indulged, over hyped and over paid.
I wouldn't be sad if we sold the entire squad and picked 11 random people from the crowd each week. I'm completely fed up with the lot of them.
3.) 30 May 2019 18:01:43
Youāve hit the nail on the head shappy. Iāve got nothing more to add.
4.) 30 May 2019 18:55:20
I would not mind us letting Lukaku, Pogba, Martial and De Gea (if he wants to) leave in the same window.
After their departures, United will have a squad with no massive egos and a squad that ole controls.
5.) 30 May 2019 19:16:07
Shappy
He doesn't want to be here? You don't actually know that.
People change there mind all the time circumstances change .
But it's another example of drawing g a line in sand, you have been banging the same drum since before xmas .
Trying to liken it to when you coached grassroots or having a new girlfriend .
It is nothing like either but how ridiculous the site has become of late.
6.) 30 May 2019 19:39:26
The Mediterranean life style with women chasing him? Shappy, youāre not much better than the media with nonsense like that. From where Iām sitting he looks like a devout Muslim who has just started a family with his wife. He has been posting pictures of himself, wife, child and mum from Mecca recently. Not on a yacht or anything fancy. Yes he posts on Instagram and has a new hairstyle every other day but your criticism of him is ridiculous.
Just to add, I wouldnāt be sad to see him leave and I donāt think he should be made captain. I just donāt think he deserves that much stick.
7.) 30 May 2019 20:30:04
Here we go again, more personal and character attacks on one of our players. Its getting tiresome,
most fans are not fawning over him but simply suggesting he's our best player and we should be signing more players of his quality not to fit the team around him but to play alongside him and we become a better side. It really is that simple.
De gea doesn't want to be here also but doesn't get any of the same character attacks even though he clearly let something get to him to make all those errors he did last season.
I guarantee 90% of our future signings will not sign for us because they love the club, football doesn't work like that anymore and i doubt it really ever did. The best players go to the richest clubs who pay them the most money and have the best chance of winning trophies.
If a player can get more money or a better chance of winning trophies from another club, chances are they would want to join them whethers that's pogba, kdb, salah, kane, hazard or any other player.
8.) 30 May 2019 20:59:38
Shappy just because you think something doesn't make it true or right. everybody knows that you a very prone to hyberbole but. Really?
I agree with the fact he has shown very few of the characteristics required to play for United
Really good post 2 toms
There is no doubt in my mind that if we had better quality around him and were competing to win trophies pogba would be more focused and we would see less of the crap and more team play.
That said i also think he should be ashamed of himself with the way he played this and most of last season. Totally unprofessional at times. i'm making no excuses for him. Disgusting at times imo.
If he wants to leave i'd sell him simple as that for me.
9.) 30 May 2019 21:28:16
We know pogba has an interest in leaving because ed 2 has told us and this was backed up when pep mentioned he had been mentioned to him presumably by pogbas agent, the info while no doubt true isn't really coming from pogba, he isn't openly stating he wants away even tho he does but ddg Salah and hazzard are in a similar boat, all open to moving to Madrid and yet all judged different to pogba .
Being open to a move isn't really a reason to get rid of a player, who really knows in the past who this would apply to and I suspect Chelsea fans would be very happy to keep hazzard, same goes for Salah with Liverpool fans as we were with ddg even tho we are well aware Madrid interested him .
There's no doubt on the pitch these players look like they show more commitment to the cause than pogba and ideally u want a player very gifted who tries hard, but what if the player not trying hard yields you far better results and stats than the guy trying his best but just hasn't got it.
Personally I'm open to an acceptable bid for pogba which would be steep if a player with equal ability who tries harder is attainable.
10.) 30 May 2019 21:32:02
Maybe you guys are right, let's sign some world class players such as Di Maria to play alongside Pogba.
11.) 30 May 2019 21:42:19
He is in the spot light he deserves all the critics, was it a world record fee at the time, top wages every week, goes missing for most of a game,
As I said earlier he isn't even in the same ball park of them legends that played the other day, he should be embarrassed the way he plays, know nothing about his personal life, I'm not interested, that his own business.
I was very excited the time we signed him, this is what we need couldn't wait to watch him play for united, boy was I disappointed, I knew after about 10 games, this boy is far from the player I thought he was, I word for me, disappointed.
12.) 30 May 2019 22:48:21
Again shappy hyberbole.
Who said anything about galatico type signings.
He has great attributes and poor attributes.
I the whole he has been disappointing and decisive.
13.) 31 May 2019 07:47:09
Best player or not, he doesn't want to be here. It has been confirmed by the Ed's on here, although it is pretty obvious.
I mentioned Di Maria as he was a world class player who we signed for a lot of money but he didn't want to be here either. Yet no one says we shouldn't have sold him. Hypocrisy.
Also saying he wants to live a Mediterranean lifestyle or that he wants women to chase him isn't a personal attack or character assassination. There is nothing wrong with either of those things. I was merely highlighting that he wants a different type of lifestyle to the one he has in Manchester, and that he might never fullfil his potential as he is too distracted by off field interests rather than honing his skills.
14.) 31 May 2019 08:11:44
Why buy di Maria?
Pogba has played his best football playing in a team that is playing well . The funny thing is most players play there best football in a team that is playing well.
Very few players look great in an underperforming team .
On the contrary people watch a good team and think all the players are amazing with out looking at the individual qualities of the player.
Site really has gone mad, dsg makes a very good point tho as does 2toms.
15.) 31 May 2019 10:09:57
When you see the lifestyle the lad has I think it is a personal attack .
Again who you coach at grassroots, who your girlfriend is or di Maria situation has nothing to do with pogba.
It's just a stick to bang your drum,
16.) 31 May 2019 13:32:50
Tbf jred everyone has a drum they bang. You have your drums shappy his his i have mine so i wouldn't be critical of that.
17.) 31 May 2019 16:09:43
Jred, when did Pogba play great football? Which team was it? At Juventus he was overshadowed first by Pirlo and Vidal in midfield and in his final season he was overshadowed by Dybala.
He was average at best for France as they won the world cup. He certainly didn't play well in a team that was full of talent and playing well.
Pogba at the age of 26 has only ever managed small purple patches in a season, and has never played consistently well for more than a month at a time at most.
Now I accept that it's easier to play well in a team that's playing well. But players have to take responsibility for their own performances. The first and most important step in performing well is working hard. It's impossible to have a great game without trying. Does he try hard enough in every game to give himself the platform to be consistently good?
I don't think so, which is why he will never fulfill his potential regardless of how many great players you put around him.
As for you seeing it as a personal attack, that's your perspective. I was merely pointing out that he has many off the field distractions that might explain the lack of effort he puts in on the field. Its his life and he can do what he wants with it. However, I am a supporter of Manchester United not Paul Pogba, while he is here I will support him. I cheer him on every game and I hope he plays well every game.
Yet I still have a right to have an opinion about why he is or isn't performing and I can speculate why that might be. I don't judge him for his actions on a personal level, but on a professional level he is employed by the club and on the whole his performances haven't been good enough.
I know some people will point to other players and say they aren't doing well enough either. On the whole I agree with them. But that doesn't excuse Pogba's lack of effort.
If you got caught speeding or breaking the law you don't get away with it by merely pointing out others have done it.
Just like Pogba doesn't get away with not performing well enough just because his teammates haven't performed well enough. Especially as the reason Pogba hasn't played well enough is a lack of effort more so than a lack of talent.
Also if we can't attempt to bring in context by comparing situations to others then we might as well shut down half of the site as we will have nothing to discuss.
18.) 31 May 2019 19:20:40
Shappy, he was named in Euro team of the year with 8 goals and 12 assists in his final season prompting United to pay Ā£89 million for him. He played well in a midfield 3 with Pirlo and Vidal. He was very very good. I think your original post just shows the divided opinion on Paul Pogba.
In a decent team he will look good. In a 3 man midfield with Fred and Matic he looks average at best. He will never be the Vieira, Keane or Gerrard type who pull his team to a victory, in all honesty I canāt think of any modern day CMās who would.
19.) 31 May 2019 22:25:26
I must be watching a different pogba to Jared?
20.) 01 Jun 2019 01:43:13
Just looking at this thread shows how devisive a player Pogba is. You look at him being 6 foot 3' and think he should be a commanding midfielder like a Viera. He is far from it however. What he is is a luxury player. If the team is set up around him with hard working talented players like at Juve and France then he is a fantastic luxury player. Brilliant touch, dribbling, shooting and passing. Manchester United however are not in a position to have luxury players. 10 years ago for sure but not now. He is fantastically talented but a luxury player and not a leader we need right now to pull up this struggling team. It's a pity because I was so excited when he came first but it hasn't worked out and won't unless we pull these hard working talented players out of somewhere.
23 May 2019 21:56:02
I see no one's mentioned it, but it's been revealed today that none other than our own Anthony Martial is statistically the most clinical player in the EPL. 10 goals from 39 shots.
Maybe we should get him in shooting positions more rather than expecting him to track back.
1.) 23 May 2019 22:51:18
Do me a favour shappy.
Maybe HE should get HIMSELF into more shooting positions.
Csm and i had this conversation. His stats are great in that respect he scores 1 in 4 which is good. But you have to question why he does not get into better positions more often.
Countless times he either just doesn't see the runs or just can't be arsed to make the runs. At 23 i don't know which is more concerning.
For me as much as he appears to lack desire and movement he appears to lack real football intelligence and understanding.
His decision making a is often worse than poor his final ball is poor and he often doesn't see the right pass or ignores it.
He has talent he has good physique he just doesn't seem too work heard enough on his game.
Salah mane sane sterling alli all work back very few don't actually.
Martial needs to work harder or face the risk of wasting his talent.
If he is such a good striker why have none of his coaches ever played him there for sustained periods.
I wanted to see him play as striker in our last 4 or 5 games when rash was obviously struggling. But even then ole didn't play him. Why? I really don't know.
I don't enjoy watching him play, much the same way i didn't like watching nani play. I find him frustrating to watch. You have to watch 88 mins of crap in the hope that the 2 mins he can make a great play and score.
I would also hate to play with him.
Personally i don't like his demeanour but i know that's very subjective
The penny may drop for him but its got to drop soon.
No queue of clubs wanted him when he was up for sale. He was offered to a club last month as per ed002 but they didn't want him.
Lets hope it clicks for him here because at 250k a week we will have another sanchez like financial situation with him if we dont. Very hard to shift underperforming players on that sort of money.
Martial has a lot to prove.
2.) 23 May 2019 23:11:13
There's definitely a player in there. I'm not all for wingers being defenders first and attacks second, I'm with you on that Shappy, but he doesn't even work hard to win back the ball when he loses it. I'd love to see him get an extended run of successive games next season. He has bags more potential than any other forward in that squad but I'm not sure Ole is too impressed with him.
3.) 23 May 2019 23:45:21
Only problem is Martial has non-existant movement. You never see him make darting runs in behind like the other wide forwards in the league. No point in being clinical if you can't get into positions.
4.) 23 May 2019 23:50:33
Give him a go as our number 9. That's where he's looked his best for us. Best finisher at the club in my opinion.
5.) 24 May 2019 03:54:58
Shappy. I have always said this. when he was playing CF in first season. he was immense and happy. With our lack of quality on wings, he been moved to left and started suffering because he doesn't feel happy there. I am still by my words to make him CF. Not Rashford. Like Rooney in later years, he is also suffering from his multi positions ability. he should have been rigid and asked to get back to No9 role or leave where he can satisfy himself.
6.) 24 May 2019 04:10:10
He is not a number 9. He's a wide forward.
He should study Sterlings movement and runs, positioning and effort to retreive ball. He could easily do the same.
So many times he just doesn't bother to make the run into the 6 yard box when the ball's in the right channel.
Ole made comment to him not making enough scrappy or tap in goals and I agree completely. If he just focused on that, and then did a job of getting back goalside to shield his fullback then he would be 10 times the player. No one is asking for defensive player of the year awards.
Should also consider that Pogba as the left side midfielder offers very little cover for him. Herrera on that side would have covered him a lot more than PP.
7.) 24 May 2019 06:15:16
Agreed Dodgy. I can't stand Martial as a player and I look forward to when he is no longer at Utd.
He's lazy and sulky, doesn't make any runs, doesn't create, can't be bothered defending and offers no encouragement to his team mates. All he does is pick up the ball and make head down runs towards goal. Most times he runs into traffic and gives the ball away when others are in better positions.
Occasionally by the law of averages he manages to get the ball past a few players and he does have a decent finish so he can score a goal. But when you look at what Sterling does for City, Martial's occasional contribution is not nearly enough.
He exemplifies everything that is wrong at Utd at the moment.
8.) 24 May 2019 06:21:19
Agree with everything Ken said.
There is serious lack of hunger in him.
I would replace Martial with Joao Felix if there was a chance.
9.) 24 May 2019 06:36:05
Agree with Ken here. He plays as part of a front 3, same as Mane and Salah. But he doesnāt have even a fifth of the impact on a game as either of those two. His workrate doesnāt even register on a chart. I dare say heās the laziest player in the Premier League. Itās so frustrating to see a player with the world at his feet yet zero desire to reach the top. He could be up there with the best, a Manchester United and PL legend, he should be on twice as many goals by now with his pace and finishing. I think we signed the wrong teenager from Monaco.
10.) 24 May 2019 08:11:34
Wazza has hit the nail on the head. Incredible player, could destroy defences, but complete lack of work rate and desire. And that is unforgivable in my book.
{Ed025's Note - in mine too AAA..
11.) 24 May 2019 09:07:02
AaA
Incredible player?
Really?
At his best he is above average.
At his worst a hinderance to the team.
12.) 24 May 2019 10:25:08
I am not sure with Martial. I have seen Shappy say before that Olly may go for 2 up front in a 4222 so we could see him in a more central position to score more.
Also the comment by Dodgy Banter about Sterling. Well its only been these past 2 years he would've put up there which shows that he needed some coaching/ development to bring the best out of him so maybe Martial needs that.
For me he ultimately needs to improve this year whether down the middle or LF.
13.) 24 May 2019 10:53:16
Martial will prove a few off the experts on here who let a personal grudge against a player they have never meet cloud there judgments.
It's always the same people saying the same things about a certain player, until he starts playing well then they will move on to some one else .
Interesting to compare him to someone like salah who was older than martial is now when getting shipped out of Chelsea?
Talented individual who will thrive in the the right system. Time will tell but I'm sure he will prove a few wrong.
14.) 24 May 2019 11:23:26
My comment was not intended to be an assassination of the guy like some seem to have taken it.
Agree jred, sterling in first year at city looked poor. Good coaching has turned him into a player that scores for fun. Ot is no accident that he gets so many tap ins at the back post or through balls finding his runs down the outside channel of CBs.
Martial needs to start getting himself into better positions to be a better influence on the game.
Defensive side has been exposed partly by PP. His attitude rings out as negative, but when his confidence is up this has been less in the past. Feels like his body language suchs the life out of the team
I seem to remember Sterling having similar sulky period when pep first started to coach and influence him in first season? He is the role model to success for AM.
15.) 24 May 2019 12:46:22
A bit like yourself jred when you feel free to critisise players or coaches you never met.
16.) 24 May 2019 13:32:44
Jred, I have no interest in him as a person. I'd just like him to run around a bit for 90 minutes once or twice a week which I don't think is too much to ask.
17.) 24 May 2019 16:21:55
The problem is heās largely an extremely lazy player who isnāt busy enough.
18.) 24 May 2019 16:38:23
He needs to make more effort.
19.) 24 May 2019 16:57:54
In martials defence re tap ins that would require someone from our right hand side to square the ball to him for a tap in
we hardly ever attack down the right, when we do it's normally Ashley Young whos crossing is poor and it's going to be a cross from deep or near the by line so not a tap in style cross more a back post header job
As united attack generally down the left it means martial is involved in the build up play so thus is deeper so isn't on the defenders shoulder. As the world and his dog knows we don't have a right side the opposition usually packs our left side.
Soon as we sort the right side out I believe we will see a lot more from martial in an attacking sense at least and if not the excuse has gone.
20.) 24 May 2019 18:09:44
The whole reason I believe these stats to be pointless is they can be manipulated to make somebody look good or look bad. Martial has one major problem and the same can be said for Pogba they don't try hard enough. Martial had a good little spell, he got his new contract and he just went back to his normal self. I do believe he can be a great player for us, if we surround him with the right players and move him more centrally. But he will need to start working harder or he will waste his career.
21.) 24 May 2019 18:54:24
jred, if Martial starts playing well people will hopefully change their opinion. You seem to suggest thatās a bad thing. Martial is clearly lacking in the effort department, if that changes, I for one will be happily proved wrong.
Until then, I think heās very lazy and wasting the massive amount of natural talent he has.
We are talking about a player who plays like Thierry Henry for 1 game a season, but Terry Wogan for the rest.
22.) 24 May 2019 19:51:01
Wazza that's a great point.
Peoples opinions on players will mostly be dictated by their form.
If any players plays crap for 3 seasons he will and bloody well should be questioned.
If the player answers those questions and improves their form that will change opinions.
Shaw i would have sold last summer. I still think he has a long way to go not withstanding his poy award. But i think he deserved his contract after improving so much. He has expressed his gratitude very publicly to jose and credited him and his influence with that turn around in form.
He wants to play in the england and united team so he needs to continue with his improvement.
If martial improves and plays well then people will stop asking questions. Surely that's a good thing.
23.) 24 May 2019 20:56:15
Not sure about that Ken. I think people's opinions are shaped more by the commitment a player shows.
24.) 24 May 2019 21:26:34
Manc man if a player is playing well most will ignore a bit off attitude.
25.) 24 May 2019 20:39:43
I cannot recall ever seeing martial getting himself to slide in at the back post to finish a chance. this is telling.
26.) 24 May 2019 21:50:54
Exactly Ken.
Pogba got a lot less stick when he played well at the start of Oleās reign.
Now his form is poor and people criticise his laziness. And rightly so.
If somebody isnāt putting in any effort they donāt deserve praise. This applies to many things in life such as work and relationships.
27.) 25 May 2019 00:56:37
Ken, I see your point but even when a lazy player is playing well we still don't respect them because we know they can and should be doing better. Anyway, it's no big deal.
I like it when the supporters give lazy players the bird like Pogba got at the end of the season because strolling round the pitch is taking the micheal and these players should be hounded out of the club. They have no place at Manchester Utd.
28.) 25 May 2019 08:23:22
On the subject of Martial I think he has talent but not the right attitude and you canāt be a great or even a good footballer without both. Phlegmatic at times, the tries sometimes not others attitude isnāt good enough, he got upset over the number on his shirt, how ridiculous, itās not about the number itās about being in the team. In terms of being a good finisher, yes when one on one but goal hanger is not workable in 11 a side and that is what he seems to want. At least they donāt have to wash his shirt after games. In the must improve his attitude and effort category.
29.) 25 May 2019 09:33:06
Would sterling be performing to his current level if he was part of the United set over the season compared to how he has played for city .
It's not a computer game a lot of things are involved in producing a squad of players that play well as a team .
People just think it's a case of buying x y and z .
Its am armchair view but each to there own.
30.) 25 May 2019 10:25:40
Jred. Do you think martial has been putting in enough effort in most games?
And do you think he has been doing well?
You are always very good at telling people they are wrong and jump in to rubbish belittle and critisise people opinions.
So oosters can understand why you always react the way you do it would be great if you would share your opinions
I think you wanted poch as our manager. I can totally understand that opinion but I've no idea apart from that.
What areas of the squad to you think we need to strengthen?
Which positions do you think we should prioritise?
Which players would you like to see come in?
Which players do you think ole should sell and why?
If ddg goes who would you like to see targeted?
Who do you think should be our no1 cf next season?
What do you make of our full back options and how would you like to line up there next season?
Who would you like to see as 1st choice cb pairing next season?
Do you want pogba to stay?
What would you do or what do you think will happen with lukaku.
These are all popular discussions on here along with lots of others.
I really would like to hear your opinion on these topics rather than critiquing or jumping in to rubbish others opinions. It would provide clarity if you shared your views so that we can understand what you think or what you would like to see happen.
31.) 25 May 2019 12:04:57
Ken
I've covered them all to bits, you where to busy trying to ram your opinion down my throat to actually read them .
Which areas should we strengthen? We should like every other team strengthen the squad as a whole . I would look and expect the club to look for a RB with Tony going, a player that will strengthen and complement and improve the back 4 . As well as stabilizing the cm and adding to attack . That said I've heard Dalot could be used in this role .
With Herrera moving we need a cm
Who would I like to sign? There are many players out there, we need to build a squad, stay away from the Sanchez style signing. The club will buy young this year and get back to building a team.
Who should we sell? Impossible to say, selling rojo for example for 20 mill will make little to no difference, he has played a couple of games, so him being at another club will make very little difference . Finance wise there is so many other issue it's not even worth discussing.
I don't think mata fits our system, that said he is a very good player and if we switch it up tactically he will do great . That is the case for several of our players and it's not a computer game and not as simple as you think .
If ddg goes? It would depend who is available I wouldt be surprised if we looked at Gianluigi Donnarumma, but he is young for a keeper and moving leagues etc would be a big ask . Romero is decent, nothing more but it would make little sense to spent 100 mill on someone like obalk. Is he a better player than Romero? Yes imo. is he 100mill better? Not if it was my money .
I would have Romero in nets before I spent 100mill plus wages etc on a obalk signing . It wouldn't be a big enough improvement, balanced against the cost and risk . Which is at the base of every transfer
Do I want pogba to stay? Yes, I want him to stay and produce his best football same as lukaku martial rash etc . If we can get everything in line to get the best out of our players we will be fine . But we need to get the best out of the current squad and players before we expect any new players to come in and play well .
With everything in place at the club pogba and martial for example will do very well as they are both very good players. If not they will continue to produce football below there standard, but if we haven't got everything in place and go and spent 200 mill on sancho and felix they 2 will have the same problems as pogba.
Just because a player plays well for a certain team, in a different environment etc doesn't mean they will replicate that form in a completely different environment.
Flip it round and if pogba moved to a team and the right environment he would do very well
What would I do with lukaku? Nothing, the lad has scored goals everywhere he has been and has scored goals when ever we have played well as a team.
It is a team sport and when everything is right the team will play well and individuals will play well .
Lukaku martial etc have all shown the level they can play at and when we have played well as a team have played well.
But again there are a million other factors, it's really not a simple question.
32.) 25 May 2019 12:08:45
Pressed send a bit early, but we have the youth set up to look at, what us the plan over the next 3to 4 years etc . Its not just about starting next season with x y, z. And that has a bearing in everyone of your question .
Ed always fans should getting involved with money, that should be be running a club.
33.) 25 May 2019 12:38:49
So you want rash lukaku and martial to stay and you think they all should be playing as a cf as you have said on many occasions that cf is their best position.
Do you not think that's 3 players for 1 position as ole plays 1 up most of the time? That will cause issues imo as none want to play from wide so it leaves us very short out wide.
So who do you see as our best cf?
34.) 25 May 2019 13:14:52
Ken
What's with all the question lol.
I've given my opinion several times on all the above .
If all you can do is ask another silly question from all the above, it just sums you up .
If that's the hole you are trying to pick from the above then it speaks volumes.
Cf is there best position, but 2 up top could work, we could play an inter changing front line, rash can play wide, David villa, Eto are just examples of players who have done the above I could go on etc etc . wait what's the point . I'm wasting my time .
Let's be honest I'm wasting my time, your last question in the context of the above speaks volumes.
35.) 25 May 2019 13:33:07
Whats wrong with the question?
If we keep 3 players who all want to lead the line and none of them perform to their best out wide nor are they happy playing there what's the point in that?
From your post you really want to keep all our squad and wait another year for them to start playing well. Even if they are unhappy and can't play in their favoured position.
It makes no sense to me.
If ole plays 2 up top then there is merit in keeping all 3 but he has preferred to play 433 or 4411 with a ten type player which none of those 3 are.
Maybe you think its a stupid question because you can only come up with a stupid reply resorting to insults because you struggle to articulate what you mean.
Martial is not happy not leading the line. Nor is lukaku nor is rashford there is not enough game time playing 1 up top to keep the all happy. I feel if they are forced to play out of position it will cause problems.
36.) 25 May 2019 13:40:58
Lol ok Ken.
37.) 25 May 2019 14:07:20
You could be right little man. Sticking your head in the sand keeping all the players continue to play them out of position in a totally unbalanced side and doing all the same things but expecting different results couldd be the way to go.
We did try that last season it didn't work but it might work next season. If it doesnt.
Then you will be calling for another managers head because he can't get these players gelling yet again.
The vast majority think otherwise.
Lets hope we see 7 or 8 leave that would be ideal and give us the best chance of moving forwards.
I really hope we don't keep 3 cf for 1 position and have no wide players i think its been proven that doesn't work by finishing 6th yet again.
38.) 25 May 2019 14:33:42
Ken
Yawn nobody said any of what you have put in your last post .
Like I have said I'm wasting my time .
Keep digging the hole, it speaks volumes, but is very boring šš.
15 Jun 2019 10:06:24
Also the last two players we "beat" City to (Sanchez and Fred) have hardly set the world alight.
I'm starting to think they are making up interest in poor players to make us buy them trying to beat City to a player.
14 Jun 2019 22:43:22
Would Maguire be an improvement on our current options at CB? Yes he would, although that is more an indictment of our current CB's than it is an endorsement of Maguire.
Is he value for money at the reported 70-90m price bracket. Absolutely not.
He would improve us, but he wouldn't lift us up to the level we require.
Best avoid him. Players such as Dias or Milenkovic although not as good as Maguire right now have a much higher ceiling and are available for half the price. Best to go for one of them and spend the rest of the money improving the squad elsewhere.
11 Jun 2019 09:47:03
9 years out of date. lol.
09 Jun 2019 21:57:20
He looks a player, although I think he might take a year to settle a bit like Lindelof. He doesn't look the strongest and will need to be stronger in the EPL. But he has great technique, wonderful reading of the game and a bit of bite in him.
07 Jun 2019 16:37:04
Fantastic breakdown Ed002, I take from this that the club doesn't hold an interest in James Maddison?
17 Jun 2019 19:08:31
I think a core of Young British players is the way to go. We need a group of players who want to be at the club and don't want to be chasing moves to Spain after 2-3 years at the club.
I don't think nationality makes a huge difference to the quality of a player, but British players will certainly find it easier to settle in the Manchester area and be happy to stay there long term.
I would love it if we could bring in players such as Maddison, Sancho, Rice, AWB and Tierney over the next couple of windows. Add them to Shaw, Smalling, Lingard, McTominay, James and Rashford in the first team along with Henderson, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes and Greenwood coming through. That would give us potentially 16 British players in the first team squad.
Add great European talent such as Dalot, Bruno Fernandes, Dias, Milenkovic, Diop etc and we will have a great side.
17 Jun 2019 07:14:25
Red man, the club should have never signed Pogba. It was known back then that he "dreamed" of Spain, but settled on a stop over for a couple of years before moving on to his dream club/ s.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to resign him needs to be removed from ever being involved in these decisions again. I suspect it is the same people who thought Sanchez was a good idea, and Di Maria a few year ago.
Personally I don't think backing Mourinho would have helped much in the long term, unless you feel spending large amounts of money and giving long term deals to players 29 and older is a good long term plan. However, I do concede that it is pointless hiring a manager if you aren't going to back them. If you don't believe in their ideas after you hire them then you didn't do your due diligence during the hiring process. For me hiring Mourinho was a mistake, he was never a good fit for the club, and that was obvious to anyone with even a modicum of football knowledge.
We are a club that has a reputation for having a certain sense of style both on and off the pitch, we also have had huge success in giving youth a chance. Mourinho especially in his later years has been known as being prickly and sour in his demeanor while always playing a pragmatic style of football and preferring experience over youth.
The only thing he had was a "winners" mentality, which many likened to Sir Alex. Yet Sir Alex bought into the club and the club's history in a way Jose was never interested in doing. Again this was obvious as he never bought into the history of Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan or Real Madrid. Some fans hung on to the hope that Jose would change for United as it was his dream job. These fans massively underestimated Jose's ego. Jose wanted the United job after Sir Alex as replacing one of the greatest managers of all time appealed to his ego, after he was passed over for Moyes he was never that keen on the United job.
16 Jun 2019 18:56:09
Which challenge has he ever achieved? He ran away from the challenge of breaking into the United first team as a youth player, he jumped ship of the challenge of stepping up at Juventus when Pirlo retired, he moved back to United to "solve unfinished business" and is looking to run off before he has done that. He did practically nothing last summer as Kante and Mbappe (along with good back up) carried France to the world cup. He didn't stand out or step up in a single game even though he was supposed to be their star player.
When the going gets tough, Paul Pogba packs his bags.
16 Jun 2019 10:10:02
Gazza, semi pro would be a step up, but the more the merrier.
16 Jun 2019 10:08:31
His injuries have disrupted his development, he has been unable to play enough football to remove the rashness from his game.
He isn't a youngster anymore, yet he still plays like a fresh 21 year old making his way into the first team.
He has pace and power, but lacks intelligence. Also there were rumours of a developing attitude last season (although if you believe the rumours everyone bar Mata and Herrera had a bad attitude last season) .
He needs regular game time and quickly if he is going to get his career back on track. If he can't stay fit then that won't happen with us or with anyone else.
He is currently injured and might not be fit for the start of the season. That in itself could scupper any potential transfer out of the club.
It was me in charge, I would sell Jones and Rojo this summer. Buy a new CB then loan out Tuanzebe back to Villa.
Then we would have the options of Lindelof, Smalling, Bailly and the new CB. With Tuanzebe out on loan.
Then readdress the situation in January, if Tuanzebe isn't getting enough game time then recall him and either sell or loan out Bailly. If Tuanzebe is doing well leave him at Villa until next summer the switch him with Tuanzebe.