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24 May 2022 09:00:11
Don't suppose we have any interest in Bowen do we 002?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}



19 May 2022 14:31:45
Looks like wan bissaka could be on his way out. Be lucky to get half what we paid for him, yet another example of p. poor buying.


1.) 19 May 2022 15:47:19
And Henderson to Newcastle

Get the money in to get De Jong!

2.) 19 May 2022 15:47:46
I assume this means there is definite interest in a new rightback as surely that isn't Dalot.

3.) 19 May 2022 16:43:33
AWB could be a good right back for the right team with the right set up.

He really isn't suited to how EtH likes to play.

Dalot could adapt and play that style. The question is whether he has the ability to play that role to the level we need him to.

We also have players like Williams and Laird who could provide competition.

4.) 19 May 2022 16:51:30
Rumours that he's looking at Denzel Dumfries from Inter Milan.

5.) 19 May 2022 17:12:10
After watching Williams quite a lot this season he's gone backwards.
Dumfries is an easy link to make and I'd bite Inter's hand off, he was arguably Holland's best player at the Euros.

6.) 19 May 2022 17:46:19
First off Dumfries, he is Dutch then obviously we are going for him.

Not of the opinion that any of the FBs in our squad have a future at the club.

Have heard good things about the two FB in the youth team though. Hopefully in a few years both make it to the first team.

7.) 19 May 2022 15:51:03
Hi Ed, is there any chance Denzel Dumfries could be of interest to Utd and would Inter be open to a sale? Lazy Dutch connections aside, he's always looked ace for Holland.

{Ed002's Note - Denzel Dumfries (RB) A potential Emerson Royal replacement for Spurs. Bayern Munich also have a declared interest but I cannot see the player being interested in being cover only. Inter will not want to sell and want to hang on to their younger players. I am not aware of any approach from Manchester United.}

8.) 19 May 2022 18:13:42
Behave shappy, Dalot is not the long term answer! I can think of a dozen right backs in the league better than him easily!

9.) 19 May 2022 18:34:54
Chris, he probably isn't, yet the reality is that at every club there are players who don't seem good enough under one manager then they step up and become a key player under the next manager.

Dalot was one of the best full back prospects when signed. He did very well on loan at AC Milan.

He has been given a dozen or so games under a temporary manager after most of the squad had clocked off and the team was playing the poorest football of the last 30 years.

It's a bit hard to judge him based on that to be honest.

10.) 19 May 2022 20:34:52
AWB does not have the ability that EtH needs from his FB so this looks the logical solution whether that is on loan next year or sale. Dalot I think will be given the chance with one of the youth players alongside potentially a new transfer coming in. I doubt we will look to spend note than £15m so likely to look at the European leagues or championship for an up and coming player.
Dalot could be a fall in the second evolution of the team but does deserve a chance.

11.) 20 May 2022 00:35:03
Awb is poor he got away with it for far to long because he could make that tackle, which he has now lost.

He can't pass, can't control a ball, can't cross and his best attribute he's lost.

Dalot under a proper coach will shine, you can see he has the potential.

But saying that he is poor defensivly, always asleep at the back post, switches off in games, maybe ten hag can work on this and maybe with a cb who speaks and organises he might improve, but for me we need a rb to compete with dalot unless williams is going to be that man.

12.) 20 May 2022 06:12:59
We let AWB down.

He came into the team with a big reputation following his fantastic performances for Palace.

Landed in with Ole and Crew, in a completely mess of a system and was not properly coached. His progress stagnated and now we are left with a player who never knew if he was coming or going.

Best of luck to him, I hope he gets a decent opportunity somewhere else.

13.) 20 May 2022 08:54:56
Not many players get past AWB. His failure was not being coached properly so that his attacking skills developed. I would keep him for at least one more season and see if he could improve in this area. It didn't hell him that he never played in a settled competent back four.

14.) 20 May 2022 10:20:40
AWB going? Fantastic news. Pants player who should never have been bought by Man Utd let alone for £50 million.

15.) 20 May 2022 12:15:31
Shappy - Dalot is absolutely sh*t! end of.

16.) 20 May 2022 13:22:04
angelred players need to take a bit of responsibility. It’s not Ole or any other coaches fault he can’t overlap or cross a ball. His tackling is impeccable, going forward he’s poor.

17.) 20 May 2022 20:14:23
Dalot can’t defend can’t attack! Sell him and move on!

18.) 20 May 2022 20:49:28
I think Bolger hits the nail on the head with needing a leader and organiser at the back.

AWB is a failure of the coaching system in one aspect but also the scouting system.

I don't know if he himself is partly responsible. Maybe he has tried to get better going forward, but considering he was a converted winger I have no idea what he was doing playing on the wing cause he has showed nothing that makes me think he could do anything there.

19.) 21 May 2022 00:08:06
I don’t think AWB was a bad buy.

He hasn’t worked out, but at the time it made sense. He was young, with decent pace and physicality, and an excellent tackle. It looked like he might become an excellent full back.

Sometimes young players don’t work out, and he was one of them. I do think the coaching hasn’t done him any favours, but it’s impossible to say how much of it is that, and how much is him.

20.) 21 May 2022 12:15:33
Dalot is not the answer either and it seems like Utd could get a few quid for him so they should take that opportunity.

This whole squad needs cleaning out. About 20 players should be shown the door.

21.) 21 May 2022 17:11:57
Zeki Celik an option at RB?



09 Mar 2021 11:35:48
Rumours today that cavani will not be extending, any truth in this Ed’s?


{Ed002's Note - Edinson Cavani (S) out of contract and wants to move to Boca Juniors. His agent has a plan to offer, as I have mentioned before, Andre Silva (S) who was recomemnded to several clubs, certainly including Everton and Manchester United, by a very high-end independent scout who used to play in the Premier League. This dates back to last summer before his loan became a permanent move. But his agent may look to figure out a move to Old Trafford if Cavani leaves.}

1.) 09 Mar 2021 12:43:02
Not a good news that Cavani would be looking to leave. With Martial blowing hot and cold, we would definitely need a reliable Centre Forward.

2.) 09 Mar 2021 12:32:42
Ed, if its not too much trouble could you tell us what other forwards we may look at as replacements?

{Ed002's Note - There is not much at this time - if Kane were available at a reasonable price they would be keen. There has been interest in Moussa Dembele (S) whose loan is not going at all well at Atletico Madrid and that may put them off taking up their option to buy the player - would now be seen as risky but Manchester Inited could yet offer an option. Or they could look to the versatility of a Leon Bailey type player.}

3.) 09 Mar 2021 13:12:28
Wow I wasn't expecting that. Such a shame as he's made a positive impact when available. One of those players I wish we'd signed a number of years ago.

It makes signing a centre forward a top priority if Cavani is to leave.

Thanks for the info Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The alternative would be another Falcao, ZI, EC type player at the end of their careers that MU might be able to squeeze a little more out of him.}

4.) 09 Mar 2021 13:32:37
Ed002 Can I ask if there's any interest in Dominic Calvert-Lewin? I couldn't find anything on a search so perhaps not.

{Ed002's Note - No there isn’t.}

5.) 09 Mar 2021 13:51:02
Thank you Ed.

6.) 09 Mar 2021 16:28:36
I don't proclaim to understand all the nuances around contracts but I always thought it was a 1 year deal with the option to extend for a further year and that the club could trigger that extra year.
Apologies if this is wrong and I have missunderstood how this works.
I have always liked Cavani and wished we had got him years ago, beast of a team player.

{Ed077's Note - I have really liked Cavani when he has played; but he has missed too many games and struggled to get an extended run to make a big difference on a consistent basis.

7.) 09 Mar 2021 17:52:43
His dad has pretty much confirmed he’s going to boca in the summer.

8.) 09 Mar 2021 17:54:30
If Utd want to compete they’re going to have to bite the bullet and buy a top striker in the summer. Cavani has been pretty good but he’s too injury prone for another season. We may end up wasting our time on a fruitless pursuit of Haaland.

9.) 09 Mar 2021 18:37:13
Or play Greenwood up top and buy a Sancho type player.

{Ed002's Note - Like Bailey.}

10.) 09 Mar 2021 18:53:02
I think Bailey doesn't have an attitude problem or ego like Sancho has.

11.) 09 Mar 2021 20:44:24
When did martial blow hot this season. been blowing cold and colder.

12.) 09 Mar 2021 22:45:48
Aguero is available on a free 😉.

13.) 10 Mar 2021 08:37:55
Martial had had an average season. However the season before he was excellent. Maybe now he knows Cavani is off has improved his performance and mood.

As per Ed’s comments, I think the club know they’ll not get Haaland, C.V. has stopped them splashing mega millions, so Bailey or similar etc will come and Greenwood will rotate up front with Martial.

Should Pogba stay and extend, we will not need an extra creative midfielder.

Let’s be honest, last season’s front three of Rashford, Martial and Greenwood was awesome. Just lacked strength in depth and options.

Not sure who made the point but goals aren’t the issue it seems - goals against are.

I think a summer of three signings is the absolute maximum we will see/ require - CB, DM, Forward. Maybe a punt on Jovic/ Dembele/ Bailey would be sensible.

{Ed077's Note - really Martial has had an average season in you eyes?

Martial has had one good game this season which was against City last Sunday and has consistently been one of the worst players throughout the season IMO.}

14.) 10 Mar 2021 08:53:27
I think we are too quick to want to offload players Ed77. Yes he’s been below par this season, but last season he was one of our best players. There’s a quality player in there, and it’s up to him, OGS and coaching team to get that player out consistently. Whether it’s because he’s sulking, hates competition, has personal issues or the tactics don’t suit him. I have no idea but I for one would be keen to keep him over spending £50m+ on someone else who we don’t need.

{Ed077's Note - but he has been woeful this season. If managers arent afforded the luxury of having a poor poor season than why is a player who has had 1 good season in 4-5 yrs and a horrible season so far be given the first choice role? Cavani has made himself first choice when fit this season so I dont see your argument in saying signing someone to replace him if he leaves isnt needed.}

15.) 10 Mar 2021 09:15:58
Not arguing he’s been poor Ed - that’s been clear to see. But the coaching staff have to look at why, and also why do they keep playing him if he lacks the talent (which don’t believe is the issue) .

Regarding the Cavani love in that’s the point. He’s not been readily available at all due to consistent muscle injuries that have been a part of his career for recent years and he wants out - his Dad made that pretty clear yesterday.

{Ed077's Note - And most are saying if Cavani leaves we need to replace him, because he has effectively been first choice when available. The frustration with Martial isnt because people think he lacks talent, actually its the opposite, he just doesnt do anywhere near what he is capable of, for most people.}

16.) 10 Mar 2021 09:32:37
He is a frustrating player for sure. He’s not a striker though either as we can all see. Cavani has highlighted a need in our team that should be addressed. A No9 who is cunning, aggressive, and occupies defenders allowing Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood, and dare I say Martial to play off them.

{Ed077's Note - Thats too many attackers lol.

Martial was played on the left wing, people said he was more of a No.9. Now he hasnt been much better as a CF so he is a CAM?}

17.) 10 Mar 2021 09:37:19
Wing back next! The truth is watching the whole team is currently frustrating. They’re all hot and cold with the exception of Bruno.

{Ed077's Note - I think someone else said it here but Martial has not been hot this season, he has been cold and colder. I thought last season the penny had finally dropped for Martial but he has gone back to his previous sulky self.}

18.) 10 Mar 2021 09:46:47
Then it’s a mental block rather than an ability one it seems.

{Ed077's Note - he is 25 yrs old already, he wont get over his "mental block" now if he is so weak mentally. For me he doesnt have the fire on his belly to be a top top player.}

19.) 10 Mar 2021 10:36:22
martial has been poor because that is the player he is. no time for players who don't want to work hard,

he is lazy, doesn't make run doesn't stretch players, and other than the ok game against city he has been terrible.

20.) 10 Mar 2021 12:01:00
Never seen anyone so blindly defend martial. He’s piss poor and he’s had more than enough time to showcase his abilities.

21.) 10 Mar 2021 12:39:34
Because interestingly over 250 games for the club both he and Rashford share almost identical goals and assist records and I assume we’ve not yet got started on the Rashford bashing just yet? Nothing blind about my analysis- he’s a highly effective player when in form. Which this season he is not. Yet he is still preferred above other options byvarious managers and coaches. They must see something others don’t.

{Ed077's Note - Jose didn't want to keep him. LVG didn't have many options. OGS is the only manager that you can say has continued with him and even then Martial doesn't play the major games if Cavani is available. Cavani has shown him up, Martial just doesn't do enough to be leading the line for a team that has aspirations to compete at the highest level.

Also were you not around when people wanted Rashford to be dropped and even sold just a few months ago. And Radford offers a lot more to the team than Martial, and he is homegrown and club trained so even if you have to choose between the 2 of them the sensible option is to choose Rashford. Also don't forget Rashford is almost 2 years younger.

22.) 10 Mar 2021 12:53:41
Age is irrelevant as people develop at different rates both mentally and physically.

I was around reading the ridiculous posts about getting rid of Rashford, just as I am now on Martial. You back up my point Ed.

As for Jose - this is the same Jose created an horrendous atmosphere amongst players and fans at our club, that tried to force out Luke Shaw and dropped him for Ashley Young and played Fellaini every week. The same Jose that has Bale and Dele Alli on the bench every week at Spurs? Yeah I remember him and good riddance to him.

Seems to me if there is a problem with Martial, then the criticism should be aimed at the manager, coaches and club for keeping him.

23.) 10 Mar 2021 14:59:33
Eric, Rashford's work rate is incomparable to Martial.
Even in the last match, Rashy chased down 70 yards to stop a City attack.

Will Martial do that?
Work rate and right attitude is the bare minimum expected from any player.

24.) 10 Mar 2021 16:43:38
I’m not criticising either player (especially not Rashford) in any of my posts. I think they’re both valuable players for our team. In fact anybody asking for Rashford to be sold I think is a fool.

I’d love to see the stats though behind this lazy tag on how little Martial works and runs - is this published anywhere? It’s genuinely a really fascinating debate and why I love football as two people can see and interpret the same thing very differently.

{Ed077's Note - but you also seem to think that Martial is a great and has been doing well and people are wrong to criticise him; or thats how your posts portray which in my opinion, MY OPINION is surprising given how poor Martial has been all season.}

25.) 10 Mar 2021 17:58:55
Not at all. Nowhere have I said he’s had a good season. Read what I have said. Although Do I think he’s a good player though? Yes I absolutely do.

To label him as lazy though is an interesting one for me - I’d like to see how much runs compared to the team using stats before I agree or disagree. The perception is he’s lazy due to his style, but not sure whether the facts back that up.

We decided to move him to a 9 - this is his second full full season in that role. l as a professional footballer at elite level. He’s learning it as he goes and was never going to be as good as Cavani at it in that side of time who is a proven craftsman at his trade in that piston albeit a dwindling force now. The fact he’s not massively improved at it, in fact regressed this season, I think is more damning on our manager (an ex striker) and coaches than it is him.

{Ed077's Note - I didnt say you said he has had a good season. Read what I have said. I dont think anybody likes his body language and application most of the times and it is understandable why it puts some people off specially during his bad runs, which have been more frequent than his good runs.

You seem to miss one very important point in a lot of this discussion; that most of the striker talk has been around the fact that Cavani seems very willing to leave for Boca Juniors and hence needs replacing. Some want to get shot of Martial instead of Cavani but that looks less likely.}

26.) 10 Mar 2021 18:18:43
His body language and style do give the wrong perception Ed for sure. I also think he does run - just makes the wrong type of runs as he’s not been trained as a natural a striker.

Given Cavani almost certainly gone, who’s your pick to replace if we assume Haaland is not an option? Jovic? Silva? Greenwood moved centrally?

{Ed077's Note - DCL maybe, although looks unlikely. Maybe Patson Daka. I am a little bit skeptical about signing attackers from Frankfurt. I am unsure whether the players are so good or if its the system and the manager thats really good. But if the club is convinced about Andre Silva then he will have full support from me.

27.) 10 Mar 2021 18:25:10
DCL would be my choice but he’s going to be too pricey I think.

Silva looking likely. Or keep Martial 😂😂😂😂.

{Ed077's Note - keep Martial but still need to replace Cavani. The academy lads dont look ready just yet either.}

28.) 10 Mar 2021 18:31:00
No I’d agree on that. Few years off yet.

29.) 11 Mar 2021 00:23:30
If I were EW I’d be going all out for Haaland. He hasn’t been able to get a proper run in the side due to injuries and suspension, but Cavani has shown us what a difference a proper CF can do in this side and for my money there isn’t a better one out there than Haaland right now.

Despite our poor relationship with his agent, I do wonder whether we’re well placed to strike a deal due to the Pogba situation. IIrc, were we to sell him this summer the fee would go to Pogba and his agent and so there’s very little incentive for us to do so unless we can strike some sort of deal. If that deal happened to be allowing them to keep all of the fee in exchange for getting a deal for Haaland over the line then I certainly wouldn’t say no. By all accounts, Dortmund need to sell, Haaland isn’t against a move to Manchester and his agent will likely push for whichever deal is going to line his pockets the most. It seems very doable, although will no doubt cost a lot.

I hate football agents and how greedy and influential they’ve become, but sometimes you have to deal with the devil in order to get things done. If we don’t, one of our rivals will.



11 Jan 2021 23:50:46
Moussa dembele joins atletico, seems a simeone striker to me be good to see how he gets on. Looks like caicedo is heading to Brighton then out on loan. TFM to Bayer Leverkusen.


1.) 12 Jan 2021 06:51:11
I wonder why Utd opted against Caicedo?

ED002 I read reports that there were a lot of intermediaries involved in this pote tial transfer, is that true?

{Ed002's Note - It is not uncommon with South American players.}

2.) 12 Jan 2021 11:02:21
Hatter, While I can't speak for the club, personally I was a little surprised by the link to Caicedo in the first place. Obviously a talented player and supposedly available for a very fair price.

Yet what United need is someone ready and able to step in and be that holding midfielder we can build the next side around. I'm not sure a 19 year old coming straight out of South America is the right person for that.

We have some depth in midfield already, with Pogba, Matic, Fred, McTominay and Donny. While we have some excellent young players of a similar age to Caicedo coming through, Garner being the obvious and most highly rated of them.

Personally I think we need that holding shielding player who can control the tempo. Saul would be ideal, Rice could be a good option as well. I think Caicedo looks better in a more box to box role, and at his age and level of experience I don't think he is ready to jump in and be first choice.

3.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:17

Saul would be ideal. It's a shame Pogba wasn't allowed to go in the summer and Saul bought in as a replacement.

4.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:31
Thanks ED002.



30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}




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28 Apr 2023 23:46:45
If the glazers have any sense at all they will take the qatar bid. Massive profit and 6bn was always unrealistic.

The fact RATcliffe has climbed into bed with the glazers with his bid tell us all what we need to know.

Interestingly i have seen an analysis of said shares they would retain. And how those shares would have a greater sway than if any other entity were to hold them. Which again is very worrying.

If the INEOS bid is accepted, it will be a very unpopular and concerning situation. And i fully expect further protests will come.

I want them gone, full stop.


1.) 29 Apr 2023 03:03:11
Glazers out. All the way out. Sir Jim bid looks a bit like putting lipstick on a pig.

2.) 29 Apr 2023 21:28:42
The Saudi bid has a load of political advantages for them too. well worth the 6bn price for what they will get outside of just owning man utd.



16 Apr 2023 17:48:29
Best chance they've had to win the league in years and they've all but bottled it ???

There's me thinking being out of the europa would let them focus on the title.


{Ed077's Note - should I have rather put this up on the discussions page??}

1.) 16 Apr 2023 18:28:30
They were never winning it
City by far a better team and the best squad in the league by a mile
More overhyped nonsense from the media
I don’t rate this Arsenal team one bit and in years gone by would be nowhere near
There only up there because everyone else is pony.

2.) 16 Apr 2023 20:50:37
Loving it, delighted for Arsenal ?.

3.) 16 Apr 2023 22:22:17
Completely agree Blackpool. Wouldn't have been top with city and Liverpool firing on all cylinders.
Odegaard and saka are great but not the world class squad they've been lauding.

I never revel in city winning a league but the pure arrogance that has came out of every arsenal fans mouth all season has made me really want them not to win it.

Claiming they'd won the league at Christmas ? seems both teams in North London are bottlers.

Don't see them in and around it next season.

4.) 17 Apr 2023 07:09:59
I've always had a strong dislike for Arsenal probably born out of them being our closest rivals when I was a kid. That said given how City have got to where they are I'd reluctantly prefer Arsenal to win the league. Although given the choices it's very much like preferring to have my left hand removed rather than my right hand.

Maybe they have/ are/ will bottle the title this season, but to be where they are is very impressive none the less. I totally agree that the league this season hasn't seen either City or Liverpool at their best like over the past few years. The winner this year will likely have less than 90 point, compared to recent winners scoring 100, 99 and 98 points. However, I think those years were the exception rather than a new normal. Two top sides absolutely pushing eachother to their absolute maximum while also getting the rub of the green in terms of key decisions, injuries and more than a shade of luck at times.

This current Arsenal side is the youngest squad in the EPL, players like Saka (21), Martinelli (21), Saliba (22), Odegaard (24) and Ramsdale (24) are all 3-5 years away from being at their peaks. While most of their defence are between the ages of 24-26.

I think there's more to come from this Arsenal side over the next few years and if they can continue to bring in the right players they can become a real force over the next few years.

5.) 17 Apr 2023 08:29:37
As whiskey said, its the arrogance coming out of Arsenal fans that has me favouring City over them. That said, i will always favor city to win it ahead of Arsenal, pool or Chelsea as i think they have the best players and manager. Arsenal on one side are a treat to watch when on song but i have always felt that they have a soft belly and seem to struggle under pressure or when roughed up. They are not the same team of Viera, bergkamp and henry.

If however they go on to win it then fair play. Whoever wins the league has obviously deserved it over the course of the season even if the top rivals have underperformed. You have taken advantage.

6.) 17 Apr 2023 09:42:44
All but bottled it? They are 4 points clear ? surely everyone would rather Arsenal won the league if it meant City not winning the treble.

7.) 17 Apr 2023 10:10:14
Gigs, city have a game in hand and they play each other soon. I'd say that's pretty much bottled it considering how far infront they were. City will win it, I'm sure of that.

8.) 17 Apr 2023 11:03:46
Arsenal might turn City over, you never know.

9.) 17 Apr 2023 11:54:13
Hope Arsenal win the league. I can't stand the arrogance of pep at the moment. Hope Real win CL too lol.

10.) 17 Apr 2023 13:19:54
No sim they won’t, they’ve already bottled it 4 points clear ?.

11.) 17 Apr 2023 13:43:47
Always going to be tough for a London club to win the premier league regardless, they have a lot more local derbies than anyone else always ready to take chunks out of each other.

12.) 17 Apr 2023 13:53:09
Agree with Shappy one minute I prefer Arsenal then it’s City the only thing is I don’t want City winning a treble or 3 in a row but cannot stand these arrogant Arsenal fans never have

We can’t win either way.

13.) 17 Apr 2023 20:03:37
Arsenal. Every time. Proper club. Bit of class about them. Great rivalry in the 90s/ 00s.

And they're not City.

Especially a City going for the treble.

14.) 18 Apr 2023 17:00:22
Agree with Noucamp, would much prefer Arsenal to win it. A change from City and help stop them doing the treble! I like the way Arsenal have done it too by sticking with the manager and allowing him to get rid of a few older players.



13 Nov 2022 12:06:46
With dalot picking up a ban for yellows, who do we imagine we will see at right back?

I think we're most likely to see Lindelof there. With donkey brain alongside Martinez.


1.) 13 Nov 2022 14:10:45
Dunno, maybe Obi-Wan will get a start if only to flaunt him in the shop window for Jan.

2.) 13 Nov 2022 14:11:33
Could be Lindelof, but don't be surprised if Malacia gets the nod at RB.

3.) 13 Nov 2022 14:44:57
As Shappy has said above, it looks like it Malacia which is encouraging.

I'm actually hoping Ten Hag tries to coach Elanga to play there long term. Not sure whether it'd work but he doesn't have the quality to be a winger and it could be a way of saving some funds for other areas of the pitch.

4.) 13 Nov 2022 14:58:41
Malacia for me, he’s put him on there a few times when he’s taken Dalot off.

5.) 13 Nov 2022 19:24:16
Think we’ll move for a RB in the window myself if we can offload AWB on loan or permanently.



03 Oct 2022 06:44:42
Beaten by a better team. An unbelievable team. Showed some fight towards the end. It's football it happens. Nobody's going to get away without a hiding from that city team this season with how they're playing.

I don't know why any of you were expecting any different. They are miles ahead of us. Set yourselves up for disappointment. It's a work in progress and there are signs of it coming along.

Haaland is unreal let's be honest.


1.) 03 Oct 2022 06:56:37
Against top top teams Eriksen can’t anchor midfield. He needs to be on the pitch but not in that position. For me Mctominay and Bruno had poor games yesterday. The entire team lacked a bit of urgency and fight in the first half. The front 4 didn’t press very well at times allowing the midfield to get overrun in transition. There were some bright points yesterday but also a few Brightonesque errors where players were looking like they were doing a job but just didn’t put in a tackle or block. Almost like they knew what they were supposed to do but just couldn’t execute the final task, weird.

2.) 03 Oct 2022 07:30:13
I taped the game and watched it late last night with a nice glass of wine. A few observations and thoughts.

1. to be honest, I did not give us a chance going into this game where I thought we would beat both arsenal and Liverpool prior to those games. Anyone who thinks this city team is on par or just slightly better than those teams needs to wake up.

They are not even at peak performance yet believe me and have injuries to deal with. A healthy squad without the disruptions of world cup or international break and this team in some ways has no ceiling.

2.Before the game I thought it would be wise to shore up the midfield with both cas and mc starting and dropping bruno or ericson to keep Silva and De Bruyne from creating havoc. We failed to do that and they opened us up pretty good and it was easy for them and everything they did came off. Some can argue on another day some of those passes could be under hit or over hit, but yesterday they did it to perfection.

3. Our forwards/ wingers did zero to help defensively and even worse offensively. None can hold up the ball and gave it away all the time and we were caught so many times being out of position and no cover for the fullbacks.

Rashford's pass to Malacia, which resulted into his yellow card summed up Rashford's, Sancho's contributions, passing and ball retention. Anthony was no better and Dalot was exposed numerous times with no help but at least he showed a glimpse of what we can expect with that goal wow.

If we are going to play Bruno and Erickson, the front three need to retain the ball a lot better and defensively do a lot lot more graft and work. Having passengers who do very little offensively or defensively in a game against a team like city will get you punished and that what we got.

We are also a bit of a shamble on corners and this is not halaand specific but a general observation and if we don't clean it up many other teams in the league will hurt us.

Finally. we move on and we have plenty of important games until the world cup break and need to stay around the top 4. We will get better as the season goes on and will beat city at home.



23 Aug 2022 15:56:14
Rome wasn't built in a day and it's going to be a rollercoaster of a season. But last night the players executed the game plan correctly, they pressed effectively, played some great football and showed that they can play if they put their heads together.

The defence were great last night, Malacia had Salah in his pocket. Martinez was very aggressive. Varane was steady and assured and Dalot nullified Diaz.

I still was not happy seeing mctominays name on the teamsheet. Now Casemiro is in the house, hopefully we will see less of him. He didn't play bad yesterday but that's the first half decent game he's played in as long as I can remember.

Eriksen and Bruno weren't outstanding but effective in their passing and pressing.

The front three were very good last night, pace power and with a little more luck Elanga could have gotten on the scoresheet too.

It's clear to see we play better without Ronaldo but lack a little finishing instinct without him.

The problem when Ronaldo plays is everyone seems to want to play the ball into his feet and wait for the magic but he just isn't that type of player anymore.

That result will probably be the highlight of the season because we have not yet fully turned any corners. This is a huge work in progress, for the team and for EtH.


1.) 23 Aug 2022 16:20:49
I am as happy as anyone for the result yesterday but don't want to get carried away. Liverpool have been just as bad as us this season and played into our hands. Their full backs pushed forward and left space in behind for our sprinters. With a little luck we could have put 4 or 5 past them. However, teams that will sit back with 2 layers of 4, our front 3 will be nullified and will be back to frustrating. That is where we need a genuine out and out striker, a goal poacher so to speak, a Ronaldo who can create space out of nothing and get a shot on goal.
Last night was a typical performance of the team under Ole where we were good against top teams who gave us space and went back to torture against teams who sat back.

2.) 23 Aug 2022 17:25:47
RedWhiskey, I think the issue is when Ronaldo plays he demands the ball into his feet.

What made us dangerous in attack last night was that the ball could be played to anyone. Was it going to Rashford, or Sancho, or Elanga, or Martial.

When Ronaldo plays the ball is going to Ronaldo. We become predictable, one dimensional, ultimately easy to defend against.

It's no surprise that all of the attackers who were struggling last season with Ronaldo in the side are doing better this season without him.

Maguire is oddly the same, waltzing around the pitch trying to be the guy who makes the tackle/ block/ header and telling everyone else to cover him while he goes chasing the ball.

He'd be an infinitely better player if he just did his job and allowed others to do theirs.

{Ed077's Note - "It's no surprise that all of the attackers who were struggling last season with Ronaldo in the side are doing better this season without him."

Is this the same season where the attackers combined has 0 goals until last night?

3.) 23 Aug 2022 17:39:17
Nothing like Shappy to over hype. Who has done better might i ask?

4.) 23 Aug 2022 18:39:44
Quite agree. We're a better side without Ronaldo in it. The players seem to have more freedom and not the pressure of havin to play 2nd fiddle to Ronaldo. You've only got to look at Bruno's stats and performances both with and without Ronaldo. Same way the back line looks more assured without that donkey Maguire ploddin about.

5.) 23 Aug 2022 18:59:45

“Eriksen and Bruno weren't outstanding but effective in their passing and pressing. ”

I thought Eriksen was excellent and Bruno ran for everything, but needs to stop the histrionics.

“The front three were very good last night, pace power and with a little more luck Elanga could have gotten on the scoresheet too. ”

With more care and quality Elanga should have scored. In tight games must take chances and Elanga may just fall short in quality.

I still maintain we need a striker, goal scorer up front.

6.) 23 Aug 2022 20:24:05
You can't press with Ronaldo, Ronaldo plays for his own glory, it qas a massive mistake bringing him back as it disrupted thw attacking g flow of the whole team.

Granted he will get chances and stick them away but there was a notable drop off in the performance of the team as a whole when we moved from Cavani to Ronaldo.

As for his replacement well it needs to be a goalscorer who is also a pressing forward. That's why we have scouts and a DoF to identity then sign this guy. I have faith that when we look at 806 strikers we will find one like we did with our RB.

We missed out on Jesus and Nunez both who would have done the job this summer already, not sure who is the right man here.

7.) 23 Aug 2022 20:40:16
United's last decent season for goals from the 4 main attackers was 2019/ 20 - Martial, Rashford, Greenwood and Fernandes.
They scored, in all comps, 23, 22, 17 and 12 respectively, assists of 9, 9, 3 and 8.
Per 90, for G and A - 0.58/ 0.23, 0.57/ 0.23, 0.58/ 0.10 and 0.59/ 0.39.
That's 2.32 goals and 0.95 assists per 90 from the 4 main attackers.

Now, let's look at last season with Messrs Ronaldo, Rashford, Greenwood and Fernandes (I've included Greenwood because his stats were better than Sancho's) .
Goals - 24, 5, 6 and 10.
Assists- 3, 2, 2 and 14.
Per 90 for gls and ass - 0.68/ 0.08, 0.27/ 0.11, 0.32/ 0.11 and 0.23/ 0.33.
That's 1.5 goals and 0.63 assists per 90.

Which certainly adds merit to the suggestion that Ronaldo does not play to the strengths of his fellow attackers.
For an elite-level attacker who has lost his legs and can't put himself about as much as he needs to in the PL, 0.08 assists per 90 is a major problem.
Yes, he can hold the ball up, but 0.08 assists per 90 is garbage.
Yes, he scored 24, but he did next to nothing else.

The United team is far better off with him on the bench.

Why do people think Fernandes starts flapping his arms when Ronaldo's playing?
The movement ahead of him is clumsy because Captain Precious just stands there barking orders.

Ronaldo is a liability.
Not because he's no good, but because he expects the game to revolve around him at any expense to the team effort.

It is absolutely time for him to go.

8.) 23 Aug 2022 22:25:40
Red Man - I completely agree with that mate. I thought Bruno worked his socks off and Eriksen definitely added more composure in midfield.

I’ve seen some posters compliment Fred’s cameo last night and whist I admire his industry in my opinion he still made some very basic errors in possession last night which handed the initiative to Liverpool as we sought to see out the game. In my opinion Fred is better utilised further forward to press the opposition and help us win the ball back higher up the pitch. He’s better in the final third where he’s decent at playing quick, short, passes and running off the ball. I think he’s a liability in the build up and he gives me palpitations especially when he’s on the ball in our own defensive third.

I don’t think we’ll sign another midfielder before the window slams shut next week but must admit I like the look of Casemiro at 6, Eriksen at 8 and Bruno at 10. I think Eriksen has the ability to dictate play from deeper positions, he’s creative with a good passing range and with Casemiro adding some steel and defensive nous alongside him it could provide a nice balance.

I fully agree we need another forward, probably two if Ronaldo leaves.

Call me cynical but whilst Casemiro and FdJ are different midfield players I think he was the alternative. Now we’ve finally won a game and there is some positively around the Club will the Glazers back the manager with more signings. We’ll now in about a week. I have my doubts.

9.) 23 Aug 2022 22:43:45
Liverpool's fullbacks always bomb forward and their entire attacking play is designed around them playing very high up the pitch and creating havoc for opposing teams and opportunities for their front 3. even though I did not see the game I thought we should let them come forward and get behind them on the counter.

Real Madrid did that to them very effectively with vinicius, who has blistering pace and completely took them out of their comfort zone and game plan.

I do agree its a lot more difficult for us against teams that sit back as Shaw and Dalot are not great at going forward, getting past a man and putting a decent cross in. We need a number 9 who can bring others into play as we get little from the wings.

I think the PSV guy has the size and read he can play across the front 3 and maybe why eth is looking to bring him in
Finally Ronaldo has to go and should not play, he has made it clear he does not want to be here for whatever reason.

Part of changing the mentality and general attitude of this team is guys who have egos to the detriment of the team or lack the ability to put the work rate in need to be cleared out.

10.) 23 Aug 2022 19:33:57
Ed077 and UA, at the start of the pre-season tour the forward players looked liberated and played well. With Martial catching the eye along with Sancho.

Then Ronaldo came back into the squad. We were poor against Brighton with Ronaldo coming on just after halftime. We were shocking against Brentford with Ronaldo starting.

Our best performance has come AFTER Ronaldo was dropped. I think that might be because the players feel out from under his shadow.

All of Rashford, Sancho, Elanga and Martial have played their best minutes of the season so far in last nights game with Ronaldo on the bench.

{Ed077's Note - friggin Pre-Season Shappy.

So how many goals did Utd score against Brighton before CR7 was subbed on then eh? Did Ronaldo tie up the players shoelaces intertwined stopping them from breaking a sweat against Brighton or Brentford? We were sh1te against both Brighton and Brentford, collectively. And did well against LFC as a unit (from what I have gathered; didn't watch the match)

By any chance do you think Andreas Pereira is the greatest footballer of all time?

11.) 24 Aug 2022 07:00:17
I'm sorry it's plain as day to see Ronaldo has a huge effect on the team. you can see it from the stands. United scored more without him, will do again. On those wages and the fact he wants to go . it's bye bye time and the way he's behaved, must be nuts having that ego around.

12.) 24 Aug 2022 08:29:43
Red Man, you seem to be replying to me for something RedWhiskey has said. Or at least you are quoting his OP.

Who was your post actually aimed at?

13.) 24 Aug 2022 15:28:27
Since last 10 years different architects are trying to build Rome. No one is successful. City built winning team in how many seasons? How much investment? And Managerial Changes? How many trophies won since than? To many realistic questions.

14.) 24 Aug 2022 08:33:45
Ed077, it's a small sample size to go on granted. But there was a clear difference in how the team played with and without Ronaldo.

As others have said above, as a team we have scored our fewest ever goals last season when Ronaldo was in the team.

The same thing happened at Juventus, they scored MORE goals AFTER Ronaldo left. It was also the same at Real Madrid.

Ronaldo demands the ball, he is a vacuum for a teams chances. He sulks when someone else scores a chance and he feels he should have been given the ball.

There is a clear pattern that when Ronaldo plays the team score less goals but Ronaldo scores them all.

{Ed077's Note - it's not small sample size, it's just 1 game.

Is it the same Real Madrid team that won 3 back to back UCL with CR7 "vacuuming" the ball? Juve had less points and scored about 20 goals fewer last season as compared to 2020/21 with CR7.

CTC might be detrimental to the team, he may not be, that I don't know for sure. What I do know is for most of the past 12 months, and more, not a single player, maybe barring DDG, has put in their 100% effort. And that for me is unacceptable and UNEXCUSABLE. They can't have no "reason" for that, in my eyes.

15.) 24 Aug 2022 20:40:51
Whilst I agree that it’s time for Ronnie and us to move on and part ways. The criticism that’s been levelled at him (and it is criticism rest assured) is way off the mark. He is a narcissist and an egomaniac, BUT………. he’s the greatest player of his generation and has scored goals wherever he’s been. He deserves a bit more credit than to be labelled a scapegoat.

16.) 23 Aug 2022 22:43:45
Liverpool's fullbacks always bomb forward and their entire attacking play is designed around them playing very high up the pitch and creating havoc for opposing teams and opportunities for their front 3. even though I did not see the game I thought we should let them come forward and get behind them on the counter.

Real Madrid did that to them very effectively with vinicius, who has blistering pace and completely took them out of their comfort zone and game plan.

I do agree its a lot more difficult for us against teams that sit back as Shaw and Dalot are not great at going forward, getting past a man and putting a decent cross in. We need a number 9 who can bring others into play as we get little from the wings.

I think the PSV guy has the size and read he can play across the front 3 and maybe why eth is looking to bring him in
Finally Ronaldo has to go and should not play, he has made it clear he does not want to be here for whatever reason.

Part of changing the mentality and general attitude of this team is guys who have egos to the detriment of the team or lack the ability to put the work rate in need to be cleared out.

17.) 25 Aug 2022 13:36:45

Not sure, just wanted to answer the points. The posts probably blurred into one long one and long posts are your domain… . Not all posts have to be aimed at anyone you know.




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27 Apr 2023 21:34:24
You think we're too far behind arsenal shappy?

I think this season of there's has been a one off. They've been brilliant as a unit in their first 11, but they lose one or two then they struggle as we've seen recently.

And whilst they have had some of the best players in the league this season. I think it's just that, this season.

Saka, Odegaard, Saliba who have been outstanding aside, the rest don't impress that much. Partey has been good, as has Martinelli. And xhaka also has surprise me in his importance to the team. There's no denying the quality and potential.

But again, in the ecstasy of a possible unexpected title win I think arsenal fans and the media have overhyped a lot of their squad.

Claiming partey as the best dm in the league, Ben White as the best rb and comparing saka to the likes of mbappe vini jr and Messi are all examples of them being overhyped.

And with them having such a young squad, will they be able to handle the disappointment of bottling the league? Will it make them stronger next season for experiencing the title race? Or weaker for losing out after almost all season at the top?

On top of that, city although unreal will again invest. Liverpool I expect to rejuvenate. I expect we will invest appropriately. And we may even see chelseas mish mash of a squad finally gel.

It could go one way or the other, very easily. They could build on it, or they could struggle to get top 4 next season.

With a raw manager and a young squad on the back of disappointment. I'd lean more towards a struggle for them next season.




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26 Apr 2023 15:29:25
The Spanish lad they had from bilbao I think he means ed. Javi martinez.


{Ed077's Note - "had" being the keyword here. :-D}



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24 Apr 2023 17:10:13
Would love kim min jae or even tomori to be honest.




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12 Apr 2023 17:54:56
Shappy, just the other day you was lauding maguire as a solid cb, here you say he looked a class act but should be wary. Which is it bud?




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22 Mar 2023 10:30:19
I'd rather keep fred than sign mount on ridiculous wages.





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12 Jun 2023 21:47:06
Listen to me and listen with intent, ten hags first signings as manager with the exception of wout couldntscore i feel have been good. What we spent on said signings is different. Martinez and casemiro are more than justifying what we paid, as is eriksen on a free and malacia has put a rocket up shaws arse.

Antony however is baffling, i don't see an 80mil player there. I want to, and he shows glimpses, more so in one season than sancho has in two. Im all for if its who the manager wants, get him in but antony is beyond frustrating. Does he have a right foot? Is he struggling to adapt? And i don't like his theatrics either.

With how Amad has played this season in a tough rough em up league, id rather see how he does in this squad.




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{Ed014's Note - good bye you imbecile



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01 May 2023 17:10:42
He hasn't hugely improved at all. Take the red tinted specs off. The same old guff, few glimpses but nothing productive in reality.




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24 Apr 2023 17:09:07
I wasn't comparing the two, just stating you can't say lukaku has struggled in the prem. He did at his second stint at Chelsea.




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24 Apr 2023 15:54:33
Lukaku prime example? You forgetting the 100 plus goals he's scored in the prem?