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11 Jan 2021 23:50:46
Moussa dembele joins atletico, seems a simeone striker to me be good to see how he gets on. Looks like caicedo is heading to Brighton then out on loan. TFM to Bayer Leverkusen.

RedWhiskey

1.) 12 Jan 2021 06:51:11
I wonder why Utd opted against Caicedo?

ED002 I read reports that there were a lot of intermediaries involved in this pote tial transfer, is that true?

{Ed002's Note - It is not uncommon with South American players.}


2.) 12 Jan 2021 11:02:21
Hatter, While I can't speak for the club, personally I was a little surprised by the link to Caicedo in the first place. Obviously a talented player and supposedly available for a very fair price.

Yet what United need is someone ready and able to step in and be that holding midfielder we can build the next side around. I'm not sure a 19 year old coming straight out of South America is the right person for that.

We have some depth in midfield already, with Pogba, Matic, Fred, McTominay and Donny. While we have some excellent young players of a similar age to Caicedo coming through, Garner being the obvious and most highly rated of them.

Personally I think we need that holding shielding player who can control the tempo. Saul would be ideal, Rice could be a good option as well. I think Caicedo looks better in a more box to box role, and at his age and level of experience I don't think he is ready to jump in and be first choice.


3.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:17
Shappy,

Saul would be ideal. It's a shame Pogba wasn't allowed to go in the summer and Saul bought in as a replacement.


4.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:31
Thanks ED002.


 

 

30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


 

 

16 Jul 2020 09:24:22
Reports stating we are now possibly looking at Thiago Alcantara. nonsense 002?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Thiago Alcantara (CM/DM) was expected to extend at Bayern Munich but looking at options - Juventus may be interested, and Manchester United might see him as an option. LIverpool have not approached Bayern Munich and has no agreement regardless of what the Fat Kid From Bolton and his invisible friend says. Bayern Munich expected Thiago to extend at Bayern Munich but they do not want to pay more than the €12M a year he is currently on. Bayern Munich have said that they have not been approached by any other side since an enquiry from Juventus and have explicitly stated that Liverpool have not approached them.}


1.) 16 Jul 2020 10:03:29
Thiago's ability to receive the ball from the defence and progress it through midfield would be a brilliant asset to have. We have struggled for years in this regard and while he is a less attack minded player than Grealish, I'd say he would help our attacking play even more.


2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:25:55
Where would he fit in? Would he get into the starting 11? Would he be happy on the bench? I mean. he’s not got the height or physical prowess to replace Matic and I definitely can’t see him starting over Bruno or Pogba.

I also think it doesn’t look good going for a player we chased after years ago, just like Kroos.


3.) 16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.


4.) 16 Jul 2020 10:52:54
Him not starting every game may be an issue, potentially as will a salary of 12m + a year. But at the 40m price mentioned, he will be good value overall. I see him as an excellent option when we get pressed by teams similar to Southampton earlier in the week. He is excellent at receiving the ball and keeping it or playing it behind. Our midfield lacks ball control and creativity beyond pogba and bruno and we do not want to run Bruno / Pogba into the ground and ruin them. He also adds experience and is a serial winner - is pals with DeGea from their spain u21 days and is the right age not to block any youngsters coming into the team.
If the 5 substitutions per game becomes the norm next season, which i expect it to, then thiago will play at least 30 games a season, starting 15-20 of them. This week was the first time we played the same team for 4 games in a row in the last 20 years. We can't do that for 38 games next season!
When Kevin Debruyne can sit on the bench and understand that its a squad game - so can Thiago Alcantara. Moreover, if he wants to come to the premier league, our planned style of play will suit him the well unless he wants to go to city and join Pep.
I hope we go for him, but i doubt it will happen. Fingers crossed though.


5.) 16 Jul 2020 11:10:01
I have always been impressed with Alcantara.
Very good vision and passing ability.
He can dictate play from deep and provide killer balls to our pacey forwards.

Another technically good player with proven pedigree. I think his experience can prove to be valuable for our young squad.


6.) 16 Jul 2020 11:24:51
He would have been great had we got him when he went to munich but at the wages and fees and injuries? No brainer for me -spend the cash on Saul- For other regarded positions: test inters resolve with Skriniar and for the right wing try and get Chiesa instead of Sancho. Would be more than happy with that trio in.


7.) 16 Jul 2020 13:02:01
Cracking player. He is 29 not 39. People talk about him like he is over the hill 😂.


8.) 16 Jul 2020 13:19:11
I'd rip bayern arm off for him, fabulous footballer.


9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:47:12
If he played 30 plus games a season he would be fantastic to have.
Personally I'd be surprised he has a poor injury record and is not the profile of player we are linked with recently.
If pogba stays it gives us some great options.
No harm at all getting a real experienced high class player in if his attitude desire hunger and professionalism is high class too. Proven winner.
Would be a Great option to have imo.


10.) 16 Jul 2020 14:51:19
Fantastic player, but I'm not sure he is the type of player we should be looking at. If Pogba leaves then he would be a great replacement in that deeper creative role.

But I think midfield of Thiago, Pogba and Bruno although aesthetically pleasing might lack enough grit and defensive nous to be successful across a season.

Also I don't think his age, cost and injury record fits the clubs ideal profile for new signings.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


12.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


13.) 16 Jul 2020 15:27:29
Id take him over Grealish all day.


14.) 16 Jul 2020 15:51:18
agree singh but saul would be a) the better profile of playerb) the better value long term and imo the better player out of the 2- can but wish eh?


15.) 16 Jul 2020 16:16:43
Would add flexibility to the team and certainly could help with rotating Pogba and Bruno. One for the more technically minded but would he fit in with the 4222 that we have heard historically Olly likes.


16.) 16 Jul 2020 16:19:49
Doubt we will get Saul if Pogba stays so it makes sense to get Thiago and wait for a year or two to replace Matic with Saul if he is still available.


17.) 16 Jul 2020 17:49:23
Don't need a another Bastian Schweinstger. Plus at that wrong age now. Sign him for 3 years before performance will drop. Plus he would be a replacement for Pogba. Plus can he hack it on a rainy night down in Stoke. Bundesliga a decent league but the Premier League something else. I rather play McTominay or give James Garner more of a opportunity.


18.) 17 Jul 2020 23:12:13
Thomas Partey would be an awesome signing for us if Pogba stays. Sadly we can't be interested in every player out there.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 08:39:15
For 002 if around. Any progress on the search for a right winger? You mentioned trying to sell a move to Manchester to Chiesa, is it a possibility?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what I have previously stated as far as I know.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 10:26:45
I still can't look beyond Willian. I know Ed2 has shut that down on numerous occasions but if he's available he'd be immense for a few seasons. Quality and works his socks off.


2.) 14 Jul 2020 10:52:18
Chiesa is a cracking player, but I do worry about the idea that we need to convince him to leave Italy. Italian players have a very patchy record when they've moved outside of Italy.

If the kid doesn't want to leave Italy then how long will it be before he wants to go back.

I don't think we should be having to convince any player to sign for us. It's not like we are a club they will have never heard of, players know who Manchester United are. History suggests very few players who don't want to sign for a club do and succeed.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Willian, as good as he might be, is not the direction we should be looking in my opinion.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:13:17
Willian is not an option as i understand it. He will either renew with Chelsea he wants 3 years. Or he will probably sign for spurs. His family are settled in London and they have other business interests there too.

{Ed002's Note - And Manchester United have shown no interest.}


6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:42:21
Chiesa is a quality player though sounds as though he’s waiting for a bigger Italian club to come in for him?


7.) 15 Jul 2020 07:55:46
Big step for anyone to leave their home country shappy. Maybe not simply the case trying to convince him to join United. Maybe an Ed can elaborate on why he needs convincing.

But it's always a tough decision to make, leaving your home, no matter how big a job opportunity is presented.

Could also be the case, that once he gets here and settles, he might be absolutely fine. I think it's unfair to dismiss it at this point without knowing the facts.

{Ed002's Note - It is taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny Italy with the wonderful Mediterranean food and the beautiful girls laughing as they zip around on their Vespas to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets of Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.}


8.) 15 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Thanks ed, I heard that's exactly what his thinking is 😂

I heard he wasn't too keen on watching every episode of Corrie either.


9.) 15 Jul 2020 09:52:31
I don’t think Ed002 has been to Manchester since the 1800s, it gives us more of an idea of his / her age at least!


10.) 15 Jul 2020 12:24:12
😂GDS.

I think Manchester is a lovely place. Always enjoy my trips up there. Some beautiful spots for players to live there too. Cheshire has some lovely spots.

Always a culture shock though for any southern European player moving there. Especially if they are young.

I'd imagine it's the sale of moving to the UK rather than the move to United.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 16:53:53
Come on ed002 have you seen Angela's ashes? Manchester is paradise compared to rural Ireland were the kids are still educated in bush schools before a 6 hour shift picking potatoes in the fields😂
Im not sure what it is, obviously a cultural thing but Spanish players seem to travel and settle a lot better than Italian players into England.

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen it Ken. Players from some countries struggle to settle in England.}


 

 

03 Jul 2020 18:01:55
002, is it true thiago alcantara is available? Seen articles relating to Liverpool interest at a fairly reasonable price of around 30mil.

If we weren’t interested at that then I’d be worried. Give pogba his wish to leave and then bring him in! Probably messed it up when Moyes turned him down like! Yet again an amateur decision.

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United cannot be interested in every player - they have clear targets and a 29 year old Thiago is not one of them. The problem goes away if Pogba stays.}


1.) 03 Jul 2020 19:23:21
Ignore my last comment I've found a post lower down

Thanks.


2.) 03 Jul 2020 19:19:31
Fair enough Ed thanks for the insight. As always much appreciated, hope you’re keeping well!


3.) 03 Jul 2020 19:21:21
Ed has there been any approach to offer pogba a new contract

I know it's a pain talking about him bit I have searched and didn't find anything about a new contract.

Have things changed

Tia.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know but it would need to go through his agent and up until not too long ago there was no communication with him.}


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2021 14:45:38
More and more impressed with Rodgers and how he has gotten Leicester playing with a team hardly full of superstars.

RedWhiskey

1.) 13 Feb 2021 14:54:47
Leicester were out played mostly today, difference is that Alisson seems to be on a self destruct mission at the moment.


2.) 13 Feb 2021 14:58:56
I thought Leicester played well today for about 10 minutes .
Got thd result tho anf that's what counts.
Just shows what a difference confidence makes , the scouse fell apart once they conceded the first and had played well up until that point.


3.) 13 Feb 2021 15:09:42
Leicester were played off the park for initial 60 mins.
But Rodgers has done a good job with them.


4.) 13 Feb 2021 15:34:18
100% if United played in the same way we would be called lucky. Leicester were outplayed for 80 minutes, then Liverpool hit the self destruct button and concede 3 goals in 7 minutes.

While there is a lot to like about Leicester today wasn't a great performance.


5.) 13 Feb 2021 18:12:35
Interesting look on it guys, wasn’t particularly referring to the game today but they like Liverpool have injury problems but gone about business quietly and are holding their own.

What’s everyone’s opinion on Barnes? Turning into a quality player. Southgate will have some headache deciding the euros squad.


6.) 13 Feb 2021 18:55:20
He is good player Barnes some good English players at the moment.


7.) 13 Feb 2021 20:50:07
Love harvey Barnes he is a throw back to an old fashioned player. He reminds me of a young Lee sharpe. Not quite as pacey.
Just drives at the defender all the time.
Lots of good young English players is right jred. Really good quality getting them into a team not so easy. Lots of talent. Rashford greenwood cal lew, kane Hudson odi sancho grealish foden sterling maddison all fighting over 3 or 4 places in the team. Greenwood probably not in the equation but I'm sure I've left others out. If fit kame and sterling probably start the rest is anyone's guess.


8.) 13 Feb 2021 20:57:22
Ken I think kane is the key to it all but English football is on the up imo .


9.) 13 Feb 2021 21:42:00
The scouse lost. 🤣🤣🤣.


 

 

10 Feb 2021 14:54:38
I have to admit I wasn’t an advocate for signing grealish last summer but as of recent we’ve seen how hard it is for us to break down low block teams. Assuming pogba leaves and dvb also, I am very much the other side of the fence now. I think grealish would be perfect for us right now depending the cost. Against harder to break down teams him in a three with Bruno and hopefully a new signing at dm he would help a lot. He could also cover lw throughout the season with perhaps rashford central or right. Cavani I think will get another season so it would work. Rashford has a mean cross on his right. Or even greenwood right rash central and grealish left. 442 diamond too he would fit. Bruno a bit deeper alongside mctominay and someone to hold. It’s clear to see we need another creative player. Open to discussion what you lads reckon?

RedWhiskey

1.) 10 Feb 2021 15:39:49
I think Grealish could also add an option on the right. Plenty of times I've seen him pop up on the right during games and play fantastic passes and crosses from there, I've become convinced that he could play on the right just as effectively as the left.

He also seems like a player who can be shuffled around different positions without suffering as much as a lot of players do.


2.) 10 Feb 2021 16:42:37
He would of been a great addition imo.


3.) 10 Feb 2021 17:05:26
He's absolutely brilliant. He would of been perfect for United.


4.) 10 Feb 2021 18:01:44
No doubt he's been in excellent form this season, following on from a strong finish to last season keeping Villa in the EPL.

I'm still not convinced he would be a good signing for us. His cost would be sky high and I'm not sure where he fits into the first 11.

He can't play on the right and we shouldn't be looking to spend big to put a square peg in a round hole.

He plays best either as a No.10 or from the left so would need to push Bruno or Rashford out of the side.

While his off field antics and ego is a concern, while the thought about whether he is more suited to being a big fish in a small pond or whether he can step up still remain.

Very good player, can he step up and is there a place in our side without shifting players out of position are the issues.

I think this summer I think CB and CDM are the most important new signings, we then need a creative player who plays primarily from the RW. Then I'd consider a striker if the budget can stretch, yet the reality is a CB would likely cost 40-60m, a CDM a similar amount. RW anywhere between 30-70m depending whether we look for a cheaper player with potential rather than a top end player like Sancho.


5.) 10 Feb 2021 18:22:10
Grealish would be an excellent option due to his versatility, close-control, dribbling and vision.
Only hiccup is the price tag. It must have risen humongously now.

However, my ideal window would be 2 top class CB's and a CDM.
Pau Torres, Upamecano and Rice would be the dream.
Fix the backline so that our front line can express themselves and it would also help us to play with just 1 CDM instead of 2.


6.) 10 Feb 2021 18:27:15
He's been really good this season but I'm not sure where he fits either.

We need a DM desperately - but the amateurs will likely sign another AM/ LW to stack on top of Bruno, VDB, Rashford and Martial.

I think we need to be looking at CB, DM and RW before we even consider Grealish.


7.) 10 Feb 2021 18:54:23
I think Grealish is maybe a luxury that we can't afford to buy in the summer as improving other areas would have a bigger impact.
My priorities would a RW to provide balance to the attack. Hopefully Amad can step up to save having to buy another, a CB with pace who can stay fit, read the game and organise a defence. Then a CM, not necessarily a special-ist DM, but someone who can do that job if required. I think Bissoumma from Brighton could be immense - the closest to a prime Kante I've seen in a while.


8.) 10 Feb 2021 20:21:47
Grealish can play left right or 10 the lad is a top player .
Last season there was 2 camps on here grealish or DVB personally it was grealish all day long for me he is a far better player .
Would do even better in a top team as well imo, move movement etc but also at the moment teams set up to stop greslish do that when he is playing for united or City it just gives move room for KDB or bruno.
I said last season the lads has all the attributes, we get a big move soon.


9.) 10 Feb 2021 21:38:05
Offer martial plus £50m for Grealish.


10.) 11 Feb 2021 00:42:02
My dream summer says 2 defenders one holding like Zakaria and one central midfielder like Bissouma although i know that is not going to happen. In defence i would sell Jones Bailly and Maguire. In the center Pogba is going to leave and maybe Donny will leave too. So we will take some money back and if its viable then look at rw. Maybe the rw position is not so urgent now with Diallo and Greenwood, Greenwood improved a lot his all round game and for me is performing better than Rashford and Martial. I would stay clear of any player likes diving.


11.) 11 Feb 2021 11:38:27
Herrera, I think we are on a similar page, Ideally I'd like to see two CB's, a CDM and creative player who predominantly plays RW but could play No.10 or LW if needed.

Personally I think Williams should be given more game time to try and push AWB at RB. So I think we don't think we need to sign a back up RB immediately. Same for CF. With Cavani at the club and Greenwood coming through I think that is a position we can delay signing someone for.

I'd love us to sign Kounde, Botman or Badieshilie, Rice or Ndidi and Buendia or Neto.


12.) 11 Feb 2021 14:26:44
I would maybe go to Torres Kounde partnership, although Kounde is too short for Premier. They are two good ball playing defenders with pace. Konate is another one who is very good but i think he has a lot of injuries. Then two at the centre, one holding and one box to box. Rice and Bissouma seem perfect in paper but i am not so sure about Rice, maybe Zakaria? At right back there are Williams and Tuanzebe who provide cover . Neto must be in the mix i agree and Sancho if he is so good and price go down a little.


13.) 11 Feb 2021 17:58:00
I don't think Kounde's height would be too much of a problem in the EPL. He has good strength and pace, while his positioning is excellent.

He wins a lot of headers in La Liga due to him being in the right position and his excellent leap and timing. I've seen him out jump much taller players to win the ball.

To be honest it's hard to go wrong with signing a French CB atm. So many good ones that Varane's international place is under threat. Upamecano and Konate at Leipzig, Kounde, Kimpembe, Umtiti, Zouma, Lenglet, Pavard, Hernandez, Laporte, Diop, Saliba, Fofana, Zagadou, Ndicka, Sarr, Badiashile, Todibo, Niakhate, Le Normand and Kamara make 22 centre backs who would be in the squad for most international sides at any world cup. Also 9 of them are left footed. Ridiculous levels of quality in that area of the pitch.

I think Kounde could have a bigger impact in the EPL than Fofana is having this season. Our biggest problem is poor reading of the game. That is one of Kounde's strengths, along with pace and an ability to play left or right as he is fairly two footed for a defender.

I like Pau Torres, I just wonder about his build, tall but a little slight for the EPL. He doesn't seem to have the same core strength that Kounde has.

Ideally I'd sign both of them. They'd make an excellent partnership.


14.) 11 Feb 2021 18:13:18
Thats my thoughts Shappy. I think Torres and Kounde would make a good partnership but not going to happen. Kounde at 1.78 (? ) will have some problems in the air i think no matter how high he can jump but overall he is very good.


 

 

01 Feb 2021 19:42:26
Had to break my embargo on posting after the arsenal game.

I mentioned on how reactive we as fans are on here and how I can understand the view of 002 on toxic fans. And to an extent I still stick by that.

First of all I want to make it clear how disgusted I am that any of our players have had racist abuse recently. There is no place for it. I’ve seen screenshots circulating to martial having his family threatened too. It’s a disgrace.

By no means am I saying that in response to some of the criticism players have got on here.

I think we all have been guilty of slagging players, myself too. But I think a lot of us did hope and jump the bandwagon about a title challenge. Hence when certain players didn’t perform we’ve gone for the throat.

Whatever my opinion on whichever players, we’ve had some bad results. Easy to pinpoint individuals, but not everyone will play great every game. And some who have carried us to that top spot are now under close scrutiny because of a bad game or two.

Of course we should capitalise, we should have gone and taken advantage. But how can we with only a strong 11, a sub par manager and very few winners to drag us in that direction?

We’re a way off for sure, we’ve been best of a bad bunch and we’ve rode our luck but the signs are there. We have a good team and we got to get behind em at the end of the day.

Sorry if anybody took personal offence to my previous post as it wasn’t aimed directly at anyone. By all means criticise our players, but we are quick to forget their previous efforts lads.

RedWhiskey

1.) 02 Feb 2021 10:53:45
I agree that slagging players off is non productive. The fact that we do this is because people's expectations have been lifted this season
and most of us only want the best for United. I think people often forget that supporters are fallible. Like anything in life at the moment people not only at the negative but also for signs of progress. I think that there is progress overall but there are no quick fixes. The issue over Martial is a good example of this. He is an above average player who if played in the right position and given the right service will come good again. I think we can make a challenge for the title next season provided the players stay fit and we find a rhythm and consistancy.


 

 

28 Jan 2021 20:44:21
Jesus Christ lads the way you lot are on about us at the moment you’d think we was arsenal. We lost a game it happens. Now all of a sudden rashford has no brain, greenwood is pants and the rest!

Think the overreaction is dire to be honest. Granted it was a bad loss but you were all jumping on the bandwagon and when we hit a bump it’s throw the toys out the pram and call every player in line of sight all the persons under the sun.

Grown men crying like little kids over one game, give your head a wobble.

Taking a break from here for a while, 002 is right some of the fan base is downright toxic.

See ya on the flip side lads.

RedWhiskey

1.) 28 Jan 2021 21:20:23
Redwhiskey.

Glad you had the balls to post this👍. Now buckle up and get ready for the pelters😂.


2.) 28 Jan 2021 21:30:55
Red last night was atrocious. No other word for it and the players and manager have no excuse for such a lacklustre performance. If Utd had played with passion intelligence and intensity but the ball just would not go in or Sheffield defended amazingly then ok hands up. it. an happen.

But last night was not like that. Inexcusable. Simple.

That doesn't mean Rashford is a terrible player nor Greenwood but they did deserve criticism. Harsh criticism.

So yes fans being toxic is not ok but most fans were just uoset and in disbekief how we threw away three points. The fans also know that this Utd team is nowhere near good enough to win the league and that the manager is clueless at times. That is not toxic its realistic. No true Utd fan wants to criticise the manager or team. We want to be singing their praises and looking down on rival fans.


3.) 28 Jan 2021 23:00:40
Let's say your right Salford, but people still need to get a grip. This season is completely surreal with some mad results. Footballers are not robots, they are young men dealing with a C.V. like the rest of us. We were rubbish last night, now move on. It's just football.


4.) 28 Jan 2021 23:08:56
Toxicity works both ways mate. Some posters win draw or lose we say the truth, that we don't play well and Ole has no patterns and he is not good enough.
English clearly is not my first language so maybe i am wrong, so does toxicity means saying what you are seeing?
Its a banter page and we all can express our opinions, how we see things. In that way i think that toxicity is if someone trying to avoid the opposing views calling them toxics.


5.) 29 Jan 2021 00:12:24
First Shef goal their player is clearly pushing DDG under the ball. No foul given.

Utd score a goal with Harry mcguire simply challenging their keeper for the ball jumping straight up. Foul given goal disallowed.

Was the performance good enough? No. Is it suddenly proof positive that we're all doomed? No.

It was a poor midweek game that had upset written all over it. I wish I had money on it, because my betting fortune is so poor it would have given fate a hard decision to make!

What is important now is the reaction at the weekend. Need to show we are a contender this season, contenders put these types of setbacks right the very next chance they get.


6.) 29 Jan 2021 01:10:33
Red,

Keep posting mate, I know this site can be a nightmare at times, especially the day after a game where some posters seem happy so they can say they told us so, they knew we were useless, this has been coming for weeks, Rashford has no brain and is dreadful etc etc.

We are never going to win every game so if people wait long enough they will always get to a game we don’t win eventually and they can do what has happened today. We haven’t lost in the league since 1st November I think it was, so it’s been a whole so people could say I told you so, the site has actually been quiet for January, I commented on that a few days ago, suddenly it’s full of posts, it’s a shame really that fans only seem to want to post to say I told you so and moan about the team.


7.) 29 Jan 2021 07:00:09
I say what I see. I praised Ole after the Liverpool win but said what I saw after the Sheffield game. I am used to having insults thrown at me, including the word toxic. It seems some peoples idea of support is that you cannot critique the performance, cannot say a word about inadequacy in a manager or point out players are not playing well or that in game management is not being managed. To be a supporter it seems for some, you are only allowed to be blinkered and shout Utd Utd rah rah rah, ole is a god.

That has never been the case before even with SAF and I for one will comment on what I see and it isn’t I told you so or moaning, that is just people trying to influence everyone only to have one positive Ole opinion. Use your eyes everyone and don’t be afraid of your opinion no matter how much people try to silence you.

{Ed025's Note - i have to say i agree with most of what your saying redman as it is all about opinions, however it does seem that everything you post is very negative mate even though you make a lot of very valid points, for me there has to be a balance or it can come across as a bit of a witch hunt, that goes the other way as well when posts laud up the team even when they play poorly, as i say...balance is the key..


8.) 29 Jan 2021 07:11:54
And some people still want to make excuses for the loss. What’s toxic is the attitude of a lot of the players. Did you see the lack of desire in the players closing people down? This is the worst side in premier league history potentially, and we turned up like we thought it would be a breeze. The team selection was poor, our players were downright atrocious, it’s ok to lose when you give everything and get beat by a better side on the day, it’s not ok when they can’t be arsed to jog to close down players. It was a shambolic performance from players and manager . Our manager blames it’s a weird world this year rather than he picked the wrong team and made the wrong in game decisions.


9.) 29 Jan 2021 08:58:09
Spot on the money that Stand. It's a recurring theme so there's no point us keep banging on about it. Just suck up the frustration and enjoy the good moments when they come like the Liverpool cup match.


10.) 29 Jan 2021 10:03:29
Another wall flower "taking A break" because of "toxic" fans. Another I'm above all this nonsense post. Get a grip mate. We're all strangers posting our opinions on a game that invokes emotion. Over the last few years we've watched our rivals Hoover up every trophy in sight and some expect us to come on here and wax lyrical non stop?

When we do well the sun is shining and I have to read posts about great everything is, when in reality it's not. When we lose, there's a restraining order on anything negative, labelled toxic when we simply have an opinion.

You can't have your cake and eat it. The manager and players can't be praised when we go top of the league only to be let off the hook with lame excuses when we have displays like Wednesday night.

You and other fans maybe delighted with what the manager is doing. I and other supporters see it differently. It's not personal.

As for announcing your exit, I just hope you still feed your high horse since you won't be using it for awhile.


11.) 29 Jan 2021 10:38:09
Stand and Mumbles I think you are right. This is a site to express opinions. I try to do so in a balanced way. Some may agree or disagree with what I say. If I criticise it is not done with malice or glee.


We do not have a divine right to win. Nobody does. That right has to be earned and the minimum it entails is putting in a shift. Against the bottom team in the league we did not see it. C.V. era or normal either that is just not acceptable.

I cannot go to work and mess around and expect my boss to say "dont worry you will still get paid and we will turn a blind eye because of the stress of C.V. times". When NHS staff are doing ludicrously long shifts facing real danger to their health day after day a suggestion that we should excuse highly paid cossetted footballers is an insult to the NHS workers.


With regards to the goals given and disallowed. I would argue that a Fergie team with Schmeichel Bruce and Pallister or Van Der Sar Rio and Vidic would have dealt with the first goal easily. Likewise a Fergie team would have had midfielders closing down Sheffield and defenders clearing the danger well before Burke got the ball.

With regard to the goal chalked off as a foul. a good team gets on with it and makes sure they do get an equaliser and then goes on to beat the bottom placed team who are no worldbeaters.

It is true teams have off days but a top team doesn't have a day like that against such a poor team as Sheffield are and certainly not when nearly all 11 players play with such a lack of intensity. Nor do tbey have a manager who makes so many wrong decisions.

Am i being toxic? No. Realistic. We are not good enough to win the league it is that simple. In key positions we meed better players. We need a better manager too. That dows not mean i won't enjoy the victories when they come if we play well because it cheers me up no end to see us play well. But I won't look through rose tinted glasses and dismiss the obvious deficiencies we have. I do not agree that we should continue to have to accept mediocrity with a few shafts of sunshine to brighten the gloom. We should aspire to so much more.


Lastly on the Racism issue. Any Racist post on social media should be punished by the platform that hosts it. The social media giants have a responsibility to society to do a lot more. They make billions in profits and can use some of it to ward off this evil.


12.) 29 Jan 2021 12:37:18
Red whiskey. Do you want to live in a society where you are not free to express your opinion?
Perhaps China or Russia is the place for you. Having an opinion and expressing it is not being toxic.
Not allowing or not having tolerance for other opinions is toxic. Very toxic. Imo.


13.) 30 Jan 2021 00:07:54
Don’t think he does Ken, that’s not what he’s saying, we lost one game and the site has turned into this, I think that’s probably what he’s saying, it’s a bit of a joke inif?


 

 

22 Jan 2021 18:26:03
De bruyne and aguero out for city, vardy needs surgery for Leicester and Liverpool are in a rut. Can we capitalise? I hope so.

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1.) 22 Jan 2021 19:00:39
Came here to post exactly that. We won't get a better opportunity. Ole needs to deliver, and for the first time I'm thinking he just might.


2.) 22 Jan 2021 21:22:08
Here’s hoping. We just need to avoid key injuries and C.V. of course 🤞🤞.


3.) 23 Jan 2021 03:42:14
You never know!


 

 

 

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Haaland is never going to happen down to raiola. ‘Severed ties’ is the wrong term, as in the long run not working with him again will be for the best of the club. But yeah he’s itching to get his favourite client pogba moved on so it won’t be happening sadly.

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Would be a step back. Red card waiting to happen and very much into his twilight years.

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If donny leaves by the summer it will be a shocker on our part. Yes he needs a run of games, yes he needs time to settle and yes we need a more holding mid in order to fit him and Bruno in the team. But some excuses on here trying to put the young lad down are sad. Unfortunately I don’t see him being patient enough to get his path laid out when pogba leaves. Shame though. Tidy player. Still young and genuinely seems like he is or was sold by the ‘project’.

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Agree on hendo. Ddg has dropped a level but still I have more peace of mind with him than hendo. He should have got another loan really.

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Shappy, should have seen the live chat yesterday. No pleasing some fans.

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Interesting look on it guys, wasn’t particularly referring to the game today but they like Liverpool have injury problems but gone about business quietly and are holding their own.

What’s everyone’s opinion on Barnes? Turning into a quality player. Southgate will have some headache deciding the euros squad.

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He has a chance of winning trophies at arsenal though 047. The championship trophy that is 😉.

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