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09 Mar 2021 11:35:48
Rumours today that cavani will not be extending, any truth in this Ed’s?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Edinson Cavani (S) out of contract and wants to move to Boca Juniors. His agent has a plan to offer, as I have mentioned before, Andre Silva (S) who was recomemnded to several clubs, certainly including Everton and Manchester United, by a very high-end independent scout who used to play in the Premier League. This dates back to last summer before his loan became a permanent move. But his agent may look to figure out a move to Old Trafford if Cavani leaves.}


1.) 09 Mar 2021 12:43:02
Not a good news that Cavani would be looking to leave. With Martial blowing hot and cold, we would definitely need a reliable Centre Forward.


2.) 09 Mar 2021 12:32:42
Ed, if its not too much trouble could you tell us what other forwards we may look at as replacements?

{Ed002's Note - There is not much at this time - if Kane were available at a reasonable price they would be keen. There has been interest in Moussa Dembele (S) whose loan is not going at all well at Atletico Madrid and that may put them off taking up their option to buy the player - would now be seen as risky but Manchester Inited could yet offer an option. Or they could look to the versatility of a Leon Bailey type player.}


3.) 09 Mar 2021 13:12:28
Wow I wasn't expecting that. Such a shame as he's made a positive impact when available. One of those players I wish we'd signed a number of years ago.

It makes signing a centre forward a top priority if Cavani is to leave.

Thanks for the info Ed.

{Ed002's Note - The alternative would be another Falcao, ZI, EC type player at the end of their careers that MU might be able to squeeze a little more out of him.}


4.) 09 Mar 2021 13:32:37
Ed002 Can I ask if there's any interest in Dominic Calvert-Lewin? I couldn't find anything on a search so perhaps not.

{Ed002's Note - No there isn’t.}


5.) 09 Mar 2021 13:51:02
Thank you Ed.


6.) 09 Mar 2021 16:28:36
I don't proclaim to understand all the nuances around contracts but I always thought it was a 1 year deal with the option to extend for a further year and that the club could trigger that extra year.
Apologies if this is wrong and I have missunderstood how this works.
I have always liked Cavani and wished we had got him years ago, beast of a team player.

{Ed077's Note - I have really liked Cavani when he has played; but he has missed too many games and struggled to get an extended run to make a big difference on a consistent basis.


7.) 09 Mar 2021 17:52:43
His dad has pretty much confirmed he’s going to boca in the summer.


8.) 09 Mar 2021 17:54:30
If Utd want to compete they’re going to have to bite the bullet and buy a top striker in the summer. Cavani has been pretty good but he’s too injury prone for another season. We may end up wasting our time on a fruitless pursuit of Haaland.


9.) 09 Mar 2021 18:37:13
Or play Greenwood up top and buy a Sancho type player.

{Ed002's Note - Like Bailey.}


10.) 09 Mar 2021 18:53:02
I think Bailey doesn't have an attitude problem or ego like Sancho has.


11.) 09 Mar 2021 20:44:24
When did martial blow hot this season. been blowing cold and colder.


12.) 09 Mar 2021 22:45:48
Aguero is available on a free 😉.


13.) 10 Mar 2021 08:37:55
Martial had had an average season. However the season before he was excellent. Maybe now he knows Cavani is off has improved his performance and mood.

As per Ed’s comments, I think the club know they’ll not get Haaland, C.V. has stopped them splashing mega millions, so Bailey or similar etc will come and Greenwood will rotate up front with Martial.

Should Pogba stay and extend, we will not need an extra creative midfielder.

Let’s be honest, last season’s front three of Rashford, Martial and Greenwood was awesome. Just lacked strength in depth and options.

Not sure who made the point but goals aren’t the issue it seems - goals against are.

I think a summer of three signings is the absolute maximum we will see/ require - CB, DM, Forward. Maybe a punt on Jovic/ Dembele/ Bailey would be sensible.

{Ed077's Note - really Martial has had an average season in you eyes?

Martial has had one good game this season which was against City last Sunday and has consistently been one of the worst players throughout the season IMO.}


14.) 10 Mar 2021 08:53:27
I think we are too quick to want to offload players Ed77. Yes he’s been below par this season, but last season he was one of our best players. There’s a quality player in there, and it’s up to him, OGS and coaching team to get that player out consistently. Whether it’s because he’s sulking, hates competition, has personal issues or the tactics don’t suit him. I have no idea but I for one would be keen to keep him over spending £50m+ on someone else who we don’t need.

{Ed077's Note - but he has been woeful this season. If managers arent afforded the luxury of having a poor poor season than why is a player who has had 1 good season in 4-5 yrs and a horrible season so far be given the first choice role? Cavani has made himself first choice when fit this season so I dont see your argument in saying signing someone to replace him if he leaves isnt needed.}


15.) 10 Mar 2021 09:15:58
Not arguing he’s been poor Ed - that’s been clear to see. But the coaching staff have to look at why, and also why do they keep playing him if he lacks the talent (which don’t believe is the issue) .

Regarding the Cavani love in that’s the point. He’s not been readily available at all due to consistent muscle injuries that have been a part of his career for recent years and he wants out - his Dad made that pretty clear yesterday.

{Ed077's Note - And most are saying if Cavani leaves we need to replace him, because he has effectively been first choice when available. The frustration with Martial isnt because people think he lacks talent, actually its the opposite, he just doesnt do anywhere near what he is capable of, for most people.}


16.) 10 Mar 2021 09:32:37
He is a frustrating player for sure. He’s not a striker though either as we can all see. Cavani has highlighted a need in our team that should be addressed. A No9 who is cunning, aggressive, and occupies defenders allowing Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood, and dare I say Martial to play off them.

{Ed077's Note - Thats too many attackers lol.

Martial was played on the left wing, people said he was more of a No.9. Now he hasnt been much better as a CF so he is a CAM?}


17.) 10 Mar 2021 09:37:19
Wing back next! The truth is watching the whole team is currently frustrating. They’re all hot and cold with the exception of Bruno.

{Ed077's Note - I think someone else said it here but Martial has not been hot this season, he has been cold and colder. I thought last season the penny had finally dropped for Martial but he has gone back to his previous sulky self.}


18.) 10 Mar 2021 09:46:47
Then it’s a mental block rather than an ability one it seems.

{Ed077's Note - he is 25 yrs old already, he wont get over his "mental block" now if he is so weak mentally. For me he doesnt have the fire on his belly to be a top top player.}


19.) 10 Mar 2021 10:36:22
martial has been poor because that is the player he is. no time for players who don't want to work hard,

he is lazy, doesn't make run doesn't stretch players, and other than the ok game against city he has been terrible.


20.) 10 Mar 2021 12:01:00
Never seen anyone so blindly defend martial. He’s piss poor and he’s had more than enough time to showcase his abilities.


21.) 10 Mar 2021 12:39:34
Because interestingly over 250 games for the club both he and Rashford share almost identical goals and assist records and I assume we’ve not yet got started on the Rashford bashing just yet? Nothing blind about my analysis- he’s a highly effective player when in form. Which this season he is not. Yet he is still preferred above other options byvarious managers and coaches. They must see something others don’t.

{Ed077's Note - Jose didn't want to keep him. LVG didn't have many options. OGS is the only manager that you can say has continued with him and even then Martial doesn't play the major games if Cavani is available. Cavani has shown him up, Martial just doesn't do enough to be leading the line for a team that has aspirations to compete at the highest level.


Also were you not around when people wanted Rashford to be dropped and even sold just a few months ago. And Radford offers a lot more to the team than Martial, and he is homegrown and club trained so even if you have to choose between the 2 of them the sensible option is to choose Rashford. Also don't forget Rashford is almost 2 years younger.


22.) 10 Mar 2021 12:53:41
Age is irrelevant as people develop at different rates both mentally and physically.

I was around reading the ridiculous posts about getting rid of Rashford, just as I am now on Martial. You back up my point Ed.

As for Jose - this is the same Jose created an horrendous atmosphere amongst players and fans at our club, that tried to force out Luke Shaw and dropped him for Ashley Young and played Fellaini every week. The same Jose that has Bale and Dele Alli on the bench every week at Spurs? Yeah I remember him and good riddance to him.

Seems to me if there is a problem with Martial, then the criticism should be aimed at the manager, coaches and club for keeping him.


23.) 10 Mar 2021 14:59:33
Eric, Rashford's work rate is incomparable to Martial.
Even in the last match, Rashy chased down 70 yards to stop a City attack.

Will Martial do that?
Work rate and right attitude is the bare minimum expected from any player.


24.) 10 Mar 2021 16:43:38
I’m not criticising either player (especially not Rashford) in any of my posts. I think they’re both valuable players for our team. In fact anybody asking for Rashford to be sold I think is a fool.

I’d love to see the stats though behind this lazy tag on how little Martial works and runs - is this published anywhere? It’s genuinely a really fascinating debate and why I love football as two people can see and interpret the same thing very differently.

{Ed077's Note - but you also seem to think that Martial is a great and has been doing well and people are wrong to criticise him; or thats how your posts portray which in my opinion, MY OPINION is surprising given how poor Martial has been all season.}


25.) 10 Mar 2021 17:58:55
Not at all. Nowhere have I said he’s had a good season. Read what I have said. Although Do I think he’s a good player though? Yes I absolutely do.

To label him as lazy though is an interesting one for me - I’d like to see how much runs compared to the team using stats before I agree or disagree. The perception is he’s lazy due to his style, but not sure whether the facts back that up.

We decided to move him to a 9 - this is his second full full season in that role. l as a professional footballer at elite level. He’s learning it as he goes and was never going to be as good as Cavani at it in that side of time who is a proven craftsman at his trade in that piston albeit a dwindling force now. The fact he’s not massively improved at it, in fact regressed this season, I think is more damning on our manager (an ex striker) and coaches than it is him.

{Ed077's Note - I didnt say you said he has had a good season. Read what I have said. I dont think anybody likes his body language and application most of the times and it is understandable why it puts some people off specially during his bad runs, which have been more frequent than his good runs.

You seem to miss one very important point in a lot of this discussion; that most of the striker talk has been around the fact that Cavani seems very willing to leave for Boca Juniors and hence needs replacing. Some want to get shot of Martial instead of Cavani but that looks less likely.}


26.) 10 Mar 2021 18:18:43
His body language and style do give the wrong perception Ed for sure. I also think he does run - just makes the wrong type of runs as he’s not been trained as a natural a striker.

Given Cavani almost certainly gone, who’s your pick to replace if we assume Haaland is not an option? Jovic? Silva? Greenwood moved centrally?

{Ed077's Note - DCL maybe, although looks unlikely. Maybe Patson Daka. I am a little bit skeptical about signing attackers from Frankfurt. I am unsure whether the players are so good or if its the system and the manager thats really good. But if the club is convinced about Andre Silva then he will have full support from me.


27.) 10 Mar 2021 18:25:10
DCL would be my choice but he’s going to be too pricey I think.

Silva looking likely. Or keep Martial 😂😂😂😂.

{Ed077's Note - keep Martial but still need to replace Cavani. The academy lads dont look ready just yet either.}


28.) 10 Mar 2021 18:31:00
No I’d agree on that. Few years off yet.


29.) 11 Mar 2021 00:23:30
If I were EW I’d be going all out for Haaland. He hasn’t been able to get a proper run in the side due to injuries and suspension, but Cavani has shown us what a difference a proper CF can do in this side and for my money there isn’t a better one out there than Haaland right now.

Despite our poor relationship with his agent, I do wonder whether we’re well placed to strike a deal due to the Pogba situation. IIrc, were we to sell him this summer the fee would go to Pogba and his agent and so there’s very little incentive for us to do so unless we can strike some sort of deal. If that deal happened to be allowing them to keep all of the fee in exchange for getting a deal for Haaland over the line then I certainly wouldn’t say no. By all accounts, Dortmund need to sell, Haaland isn’t against a move to Manchester and his agent will likely push for whichever deal is going to line his pockets the most. It seems very doable, although will no doubt cost a lot.

I hate football agents and how greedy and influential they’ve become, but sometimes you have to deal with the devil in order to get things done. If we don’t, one of our rivals will.


 

 

11 Jan 2021 23:50:46
Moussa dembele joins atletico, seems a simeone striker to me be good to see how he gets on. Looks like caicedo is heading to Brighton then out on loan. TFM to Bayer Leverkusen.

RedWhiskey

1.) 12 Jan 2021 06:51:11
I wonder why Utd opted against Caicedo?

ED002 I read reports that there were a lot of intermediaries involved in this pote tial transfer, is that true?

{Ed002's Note - It is not uncommon with South American players.}


2.) 12 Jan 2021 11:02:21
Hatter, While I can't speak for the club, personally I was a little surprised by the link to Caicedo in the first place. Obviously a talented player and supposedly available for a very fair price.

Yet what United need is someone ready and able to step in and be that holding midfielder we can build the next side around. I'm not sure a 19 year old coming straight out of South America is the right person for that.

We have some depth in midfield already, with Pogba, Matic, Fred, McTominay and Donny. While we have some excellent young players of a similar age to Caicedo coming through, Garner being the obvious and most highly rated of them.

Personally I think we need that holding shielding player who can control the tempo. Saul would be ideal, Rice could be a good option as well. I think Caicedo looks better in a more box to box role, and at his age and level of experience I don't think he is ready to jump in and be first choice.


3.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:17
Shappy,

Saul would be ideal. It's a shame Pogba wasn't allowed to go in the summer and Saul bought in as a replacement.


4.) 12 Jan 2021 11:06:31
Thanks ED002.


 

 

30 Jul 2020 11:51:46
Anybody interested in taking Chong on loan for next season at the moment Ed’s?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


 

 

16 Jul 2020 09:24:22
Reports stating we are now possibly looking at Thiago Alcantara. nonsense 002?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Thiago Alcantara (CM/DM) was expected to extend at Bayern Munich but looking at options - Juventus may be interested, and Manchester United might see him as an option. LIverpool have not approached Bayern Munich and has no agreement regardless of what the Fat Kid From Bolton and his invisible friend says. Bayern Munich expected Thiago to extend at Bayern Munich but they do not want to pay more than the €12M a year he is currently on. Bayern Munich have said that they have not been approached by any other side since an enquiry from Juventus and have explicitly stated that Liverpool have not approached them.}


1.) 16 Jul 2020 10:03:29
Thiago's ability to receive the ball from the defence and progress it through midfield would be a brilliant asset to have. We have struggled for years in this regard and while he is a less attack minded player than Grealish, I'd say he would help our attacking play even more.


2.) 16 Jul 2020 10:25:55
Where would he fit in? Would he get into the starting 11? Would he be happy on the bench? I mean. he’s not got the height or physical prowess to replace Matic and I definitely can’t see him starting over Bruno or Pogba.

I also think it doesn’t look good going for a player we chased after years ago, just like Kroos.


3.) 16 Jul 2020 10:41:22
I would be surprised if we went for him. He is getting on a little and hasn’t got the best injury record. Quality at what he does though as rj mentions.


4.) 16 Jul 2020 10:52:54
Him not starting every game may be an issue, potentially as will a salary of 12m + a year. But at the 40m price mentioned, he will be good value overall. I see him as an excellent option when we get pressed by teams similar to Southampton earlier in the week. He is excellent at receiving the ball and keeping it or playing it behind. Our midfield lacks ball control and creativity beyond pogba and bruno and we do not want to run Bruno / Pogba into the ground and ruin them. He also adds experience and is a serial winner - is pals with DeGea from their spain u21 days and is the right age not to block any youngsters coming into the team.
If the 5 substitutions per game becomes the norm next season, which i expect it to, then thiago will play at least 30 games a season, starting 15-20 of them. This week was the first time we played the same team for 4 games in a row in the last 20 years. We can't do that for 38 games next season!
When Kevin Debruyne can sit on the bench and understand that its a squad game - so can Thiago Alcantara. Moreover, if he wants to come to the premier league, our planned style of play will suit him the well unless he wants to go to city and join Pep.
I hope we go for him, but i doubt it will happen. Fingers crossed though.


5.) 16 Jul 2020 11:10:01
I have always been impressed with Alcantara.
Very good vision and passing ability.
He can dictate play from deep and provide killer balls to our pacey forwards.

Another technically good player with proven pedigree. I think his experience can prove to be valuable for our young squad.


6.) 16 Jul 2020 11:24:51
He would have been great had we got him when he went to munich but at the wages and fees and injuries? No brainer for me -spend the cash on Saul- For other regarded positions: test inters resolve with Skriniar and for the right wing try and get Chiesa instead of Sancho. Would be more than happy with that trio in.


7.) 16 Jul 2020 13:02:01
Cracking player. He is 29 not 39. People talk about him like he is over the hill 😂.


8.) 16 Jul 2020 13:19:11
I'd rip bayern arm off for him, fabulous footballer.


9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:47:12
If he played 30 plus games a season he would be fantastic to have.
Personally I'd be surprised he has a poor injury record and is not the profile of player we are linked with recently.
If pogba stays it gives us some great options.
No harm at all getting a real experienced high class player in if his attitude desire hunger and professionalism is high class too. Proven winner.
Would be a Great option to have imo.


10.) 16 Jul 2020 14:51:19
Fantastic player, but I'm not sure he is the type of player we should be looking at. If Pogba leaves then he would be a great replacement in that deeper creative role.

But I think midfield of Thiago, Pogba and Bruno although aesthetically pleasing might lack enough grit and defensive nous to be successful across a season.

Also I don't think his age, cost and injury record fits the clubs ideal profile for new signings.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


12.) 16 Jul 2020 14:59:53
4-4-2 with a midfield diamond would be the only way to fit thiago, pogba and bruno in the same side.

Only see it happening if pogba gets a move away.


13.) 16 Jul 2020 15:27:29
Id take him over Grealish all day.


14.) 16 Jul 2020 15:51:18
agree singh but saul would be a) the better profile of playerb) the better value long term and imo the better player out of the 2- can but wish eh?


15.) 16 Jul 2020 16:16:43
Would add flexibility to the team and certainly could help with rotating Pogba and Bruno. One for the more technically minded but would he fit in with the 4222 that we have heard historically Olly likes.


16.) 16 Jul 2020 16:19:49
Doubt we will get Saul if Pogba stays so it makes sense to get Thiago and wait for a year or two to replace Matic with Saul if he is still available.


17.) 16 Jul 2020 17:49:23
Don't need a another Bastian Schweinstger. Plus at that wrong age now. Sign him for 3 years before performance will drop. Plus he would be a replacement for Pogba. Plus can he hack it on a rainy night down in Stoke. Bundesliga a decent league but the Premier League something else. I rather play McTominay or give James Garner more of a opportunity.


18.) 17 Jul 2020 23:12:13
Thomas Partey would be an awesome signing for us if Pogba stays. Sadly we can't be interested in every player out there.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 08:39:15
For 002 if around. Any progress on the search for a right winger? You mentioned trying to sell a move to Manchester to Chiesa, is it a possibility?

RedWhiskey

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed from what I have previously stated as far as I know.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 10:26:45
I still can't look beyond Willian. I know Ed2 has shut that down on numerous occasions but if he's available he'd be immense for a few seasons. Quality and works his socks off.


2.) 14 Jul 2020 10:52:18
Chiesa is a cracking player, but I do worry about the idea that we need to convince him to leave Italy. Italian players have a very patchy record when they've moved outside of Italy.

If the kid doesn't want to leave Italy then how long will it be before he wants to go back.

I don't think we should be having to convince any player to sign for us. It's not like we are a club they will have never heard of, players know who Manchester United are. History suggests very few players who don't want to sign for a club do and succeed.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 11:31:36
Willian is going to command a huge wage and I fear it will likely end in tears as it did with Sanchez. He’s likely to lose his pace.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 13:42:51
Willian, as good as he might be, is not the direction we should be looking in my opinion.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:13:17
Willian is not an option as i understand it. He will either renew with Chelsea he wants 3 years. Or he will probably sign for spurs. His family are settled in London and they have other business interests there too.

{Ed002's Note - And Manchester United have shown no interest.}


6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:42:21
Chiesa is a quality player though sounds as though he’s waiting for a bigger Italian club to come in for him?


7.) 15 Jul 2020 07:55:46
Big step for anyone to leave their home country shappy. Maybe not simply the case trying to convince him to join United. Maybe an Ed can elaborate on why he needs convincing.

But it's always a tough decision to make, leaving your home, no matter how big a job opportunity is presented.

Could also be the case, that once he gets here and settles, he might be absolutely fine. I think it's unfair to dismiss it at this point without knowing the facts.

{Ed002's Note - It is taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny Italy with the wonderful Mediterranean food and the beautiful girls laughing as they zip around on their Vespas to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets of Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.}


8.) 15 Jul 2020 09:22:34
Thanks ed, I heard that's exactly what his thinking is 😂

I heard he wasn't too keen on watching every episode of Corrie either.


9.) 15 Jul 2020 09:52:31
I don’t think Ed002 has been to Manchester since the 1800s, it gives us more of an idea of his / her age at least!


10.) 15 Jul 2020 12:24:12
😂GDS.

I think Manchester is a lovely place. Always enjoy my trips up there. Some beautiful spots for players to live there too. Cheshire has some lovely spots.

Always a culture shock though for any southern European player moving there. Especially if they are young.

I'd imagine it's the sale of moving to the UK rather than the move to United.


11.) 16 Jul 2020 16:53:53
Come on ed002 have you seen Angela's ashes? Manchester is paradise compared to rural Ireland were the kids are still educated in bush schools before a 6 hour shift picking potatoes in the fields😂
Im not sure what it is, obviously a cultural thing but Spanish players seem to travel and settle a lot better than Italian players into England.

{Ed002's Note - I have not seen it Ken. Players from some countries struggle to settle in England.}


 

 

 

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30 Sep 2021 13:16:39
I dread to think where we'd be without De Gea this season.

Whilst I have been vocal in saying AWB isn't the answer, nor is Dalot. Was given the run around all game. New RB is a necessity along with a proper DM in my eyes.

RedWhiskey

1.) 30 Sep 2021 13:32:30
DDG is back to his mighty best.
Player of the season so far. Crucial saves in almost every game.


2.) 30 Sep 2021 13:52:35
DM and RB are obvious needs now. Dalot cannot defend. It was doubtful before, now it is beyond question.


3.) 30 Sep 2021 13:57:45
Probably better manager with better coaches to improve players would suffice.


4.) 30 Sep 2021 13:59:01
YEP RW, totally agree.


5.) 30 Sep 2021 19:23:06
In fairness to our much maligned glorious managerial leader we had identified RB as a weak spot and were after Trippier but priced out of a deal. Granted the DM is a much more curious tale. I don't think anyone would cry a tear if they never saw Fred or Dalot in a United shirt again. Though maybe Fred has secretly been a left back all along (preferably in the changing rooms) .


6.) 01 Oct 2021 13:29:17
Halesini…. Might have to see a lot of Dalot again, next game in Champs league and all of December possibly until a new RB can be signed.


 

 

28 Sep 2021 09:24:37
Not being funny but the hysteria over sancho not playing is completely over the top. He needs time to adjust to the premier league and to adjust his game. There will always be competition for the positions he plays.

Calling him the next donny and even dortmund crying about it is ridiculous. got to wait and see what happens.

RedWhiskey

1.) 28 Sep 2021 10:26:58
Hysteria, its a discussion nothing more, that's the whole point of this site.
How about Mata, 62 minutes of football this season, so why did we offer him a new contract, bring in a youngster instead.


2.) 28 Sep 2021 10:55:28
Red Whiskey - I don’t entirely disagree with your comments but I think the signings of VdB and Sancho raise serious concerns regarding Ole’s ability to build a winning team.

We’ve spent over £100m on players that warm our bench. Forget Sancho’s age, he produced some excellent numbers at Dortmund and was considered one of the best wingers in the world. We chased him for two years and eventually paid £75m for him. Surely a player of that caliber goes straight into the team! He’s the marquee signing. Ole is treating him like a youth team player we’ve picked up from Rotherham. He’s played more champions league football than we have in the past few years. Thank god Bellingham went to Dortmund because he would have suffered exactly the same fate. What Sancho needs is trust. He’s not going to adapt if he doesn’t play. He’ll only stagnate, the pressure will build and it will become even harder.

I agree Greenwood is an excellent prospect but we knew that in the summer before we signed Sancho and let’s be honest Greenwood is not really a RW. We also paid £40m for Amad who’s always looked really good to me when given a chance. Lingard had done well at West Ham and Mata was awarded another contract. Did we really need Sancho, considering he can’t even get into the team?! We didn’t sign a CM meaning we now have to play Mctominay and Fred in the midfield every week. The midfield pivot is causing us more problems than the RW position which could have been addressed in the summer instead.

I’m far from convinced Ole really knows what he’s doing and how he’s going to take us from a good team to a title wining team.


3.) 28 Sep 2021 11:28:20
I agree Dlib it was not really a necessity given the way Ole plays to sign Sancho, I don’t really understand why Amad was not given more of a chance or, Pellestri given they are only couple of years younger then Sancho and if as people are saying on here Sancho needs time, why did we not just give Amad time, TBF Greenwood is more productive in that position then Sancho is at the moment anyway.
Ole clearly don’t want to put Sancho on the right because with AWB there that side will be a disaster….
So where Sancho gets a look in when Rashford is back is anyone’s guess.
Every manager at every club as always said you build from the back, we seem to ignore that and work the other way….


4.) 28 Sep 2021 11:36:22
Red W. I don’t think Dortmund are crying about it, I think they laughing all the way to the bank!
There is no Hysteria, it’s people’s opinions, mine is for 80mil you need to be showing something, great players always do something whilst they are adjusting, like Bruno did, blubbering on the bench when you been subbed is not the way of a potential great in my opinion.


5.) 28 Sep 2021 11:42:51
DLIB, the same non logic from Utd can also be said about the signing of Ronaldo which I think was a mistake.

If we bought Sancho for the right wing where we also have the £40million Amad then there needs to be room for Greenwood to play as a centre forward.

The Ronaldo money (including his massive wages) and squad place is then available towards a CM and a better right back which would help Sancho.

Lingard, Mata and Fred could then have been sold/ released and it would have made no difference.


6.) 28 Sep 2021 11:57:50
Manc man the Ronny signing was a must when he become available because he ready made goal scorer and hell we need that, it’s one of the better things Ole done, money is covered in the PR it brings, and it’s not yours or my money anyway so I hardly care about that, so that signing is a once in lifetime opportunity,

Where as Sancho signing was an average player for huge money, when more important positions needed filling.


7.) 28 Sep 2021 12:36:20
Manc man,

Signing Ronaldo was a no brainer mate.


8.) 28 Sep 2021 14:05:33
Agree on Ronaldo, he had to be signed. Not taking anyones place apart from Cavani and Greenwood is a long way from the complete striker we need. It wouldn't surprise me if Greenwood ends up on the right wing long-term anyway.


9.) 28 Sep 2021 14:32:16
Was signing Ronaldo really a no brainer?

I mean we've signed a player who will be 37 in a few months time and he's now going to be our main striker week in week out for at least the next couple of years, because he's Ronaldo and will exoect to play almost every game .

Yes he scores goals, but He has'nt got the pace he used to have and is basically a penalty box player now. Him being in the team restricts our options as we can't press teams high because he does'nt do that, and with Pogba also in the side we have two players who are'nt going to press.


10.) 28 Sep 2021 15:00:28
Have we ever pressed teams high, very rarely. Ronaldo is one of the few that will close players down.


11.) 28 Sep 2021 15:16:44
biko, Ronaldo recorded the highest sprint speed in the few matches he has played.
He is a different animal to others on a physical and fitness level.

We are just not creating enough chances for him.


12.) 28 Sep 2021 15:22:23
We rarely press teams very high because we have a manager and coaching staff who don't seem to do much coaching, and as for Ronaldo he does'nt do a whole lot when the opposition have the ball, which is understandable given his age and the fact that he does'nt have the legs for it anymore.


13.) 28 Sep 2021 15:43:55
Bilko,

Have you watched the games? On Saturday Ronaldo chased right across the pitch to close a villa defender down, I don’t think I’ve seen another player do that this season.


14.) 28 Sep 2021 16:03:53
We do not have pressing tactics, nor appear to being coached to do them

We keep buying players, ostensibly to be able to break down more defensive teams. Sancho, Ronaldo yet we still have games like West Ham, Southampton, Villa. Ronaldo can be a penalty box player if we know how to create and there in lies the issue. We have not set any successful pattern of play that enables us to manipulate the opposition out of position to create chances. We do not get behind full backs nor put crosses in. We have one method, pass inside and try to go through the middle. It hasn’t changed and we can buy as many players as we want, including Haaland who would not score as many because we have no successful methodology.

Again and again I have asked why buy Sancho to solve the right side, to create then play him on the left, then leave him on the bench. It is managerial incompetence and until the club wake up we will win some and lose some without any strong consistency.


15.) 28 Sep 2021 16:40:41
The Sancho question is more about the decision to buy him than the player himself. He obviously has the talent, despite his slow start.

Did we really ever need him at all? Greenwood at RW, with Amad as cover would have been just fine. That said, I am hopeful Sancho will come good in time.


16.) 28 Sep 2021 17:22:05
Bioko why get hung up on Ronaldo age, his fitness figures outshine 90% of our squad when testing was done last month! the man is a freak of nature, he might not be as quick as he was but he still is quicker then a lot of our players even today! To say oh he only scores goals, that’s what we want him to do, Martial can’t! In fact come end of season he will be our top scorer.
We don’t play a pressing game anyway we never had, we occasionally do a half hearted press individually, but that’s it.


17.) 28 Sep 2021 17:49:35
Have to agree with our buying policy looking suspect if players aren't given a chance.

Martial - tried, failed, get rid. That one is fair enough aside from we are making no attempt to sell him and get his ludicrous £250k per week off the books.

Van de Beek - just never played despite our sticking with Fred who is a Sunday-leaguer at best.

Sancho - crying out for a natural right winger only to get one and not play him there at all. Especially with Rashford out that's a puzzling one.

Surely our first choice front 3 when all fit would be:
Rashford - Ronaldo - Sancho

With very able deputies in:
Pogba (arguably his best position at LW) - Cavani - Greenwood

We haven't played anyone of substance yet in the league. Battered Leeds, scored 4 against Newcastle though a slightly flattering result. The other results all below par.

Our midfield options may not be strong enough but our front 3 should be exceptionally strong in any combo of the above (appreciating Rashford currently out) and Bruno is an ever present seemingly regardless.

I appreciate Ole wants Greenwood to get plenty of game time to develop and Sancho may have a gentle introduction to the league. But if it as gentle as Donny Van De Beek's we have some serious problems ahead! Surely that boy has to stop fraternising with Mrs Ole to get a game!

I appreciate the majority here are Ole Out and perhaps with good reason. It feels as though we have got a car now that can go 100mph and win races though w haven't always got the right tyres fitted and perhaps moreover the wrong person is at the wheel.

I do feel for Ole though as every win is a United win and every loss is another nail in his coffin. My personal expectation is if United don't win silverware this season Ole has to go. But I strongly suspect a Top 4 finish and he remains in post regardless of anything else.

Shaw and Maguire look a little off the pace post the euros but will come good. Varane will settle and show his class. Someone needs to find a discrepancy in Fred's work permit credentials for all our sakes as he clearly listed his profession as 'footballer' in error. And we need to make a play or sell decision on VDB as he will clearly leave asap if not. Squad wise though we have some very good players now and it will be a crying shame if we don't win something this season.


18.) 29 Sep 2021 01:30:57
Halesini its not about trophies (the complain) . Its about being the best version of ourselves. Then we can or can not won trophies based on form of other teams luck etc. For example if we played as a team and fast attacking football (like Liverpool), hit 90 points but City hit 92 and win the League would anyone complain?
We have one of the worst people in charge. I really don't think there would be much difference if you are you in his position. All he does is having a happy camp and then go out and express yourselves. Its clear which teams are coaches teams and are well worked to provide a certain proactive style of football. It is clear we are not such a team, crystal clear. Brighton is, as City Liverpool Chelsea and it is clear to see it.
But we will not be a happy camp for much longer because the pressure is on and he started to pick fights. With Klopp about referees, with Rio, with Neville, then he said that we lacked quality against West Ham when we had Sancho Donny etc in the starting eleven and Meison-Bruno coming off the bench. If the results don't improve I really worry this will finish in tears and a club legend would not be a popular person for our fans. I want to believe in him and I really want to succeed because there is nothing better than having a new SAF who stays 20-30 years at the club. But from the day one he didn't gave me reasons to believe. Every time i see our team i see a bunch of good players with a championship level manager.


19.) 29 Sep 2021 02:43:58
This is what happens when a team plays badly. People begin to focus on the negatives. I said after the Young Boys game that Ronaldo’s excellent start was distracting from Jadon’s slow one. Without that to distract anymore and when faced with four or five terrible team performances on the spin, it’s only natural that people will start to question the seventy something million pound signing. He’ll come good once we change manager though.


 

 

19 Sep 2021 20:26:11
Not pogbas biggest advocate by any means. As I understand we were never the first choice to return to when he got his move from juve. He's had his agent speak out of turn and even spoke about leaving himself. He's let his contract run down.

But 7 assists in 5 games in the PL? got to stand up and applaud that. Rumours he's open to staying going round, and personally I'm not sure it would be a smart move as his wages will no doubt be massive but in this vein of form, and as the saying goes 'it's not my money' I wouldn't be against it if he throws himself into it fully.

RedWhiskey

1.) 19 Sep 2021 20:35:27
And yes I realise this is a big contradiction from my most recent rumour reply ? seems I'm fickle too.


2.) 20 Sep 2021 07:29:33
Pogba is in good form, but I still think it would be a mistake to give him a huge new contract.

His 7 assists this season look great, but 4 came in the first game against Leeds. In the 5 games since (4 league, 1 UCL) he has 3 assists.

Still a good return but it throws a slightly different light on it.

Also 6 of his 7 assists have come from him playing LW. He doesn't fit in the pivot. So what happens when Rashford is back fit?

If you look at the forward positions we have Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Lingard and Martial. For three positions.

That doesn't include the likes of Amad, Pellistri, Shoretire and Elanga who are coming through.

Do we really need to spend 500k per week to keep Pogba to play in one of these positions?


3.) 20 Sep 2021 08:09:33
5 of his 7 assists have come from the left wing, Leeds and Southampton, the Newcastle game where he got 2 he was playing the pivot role. That shows he is more effective on the left wing and would start ahead of Rashford at the moment.


4.) 20 Sep 2021 08:13:39
Agreed Shappy but the problem then is that all of a sudden there is no creativity behind that forward line and if Bruno is marked out of the game, we are toothless. Pogba is the only one who gives us that guile.


5.) 20 Sep 2021 09:26:21
I think once Sancho settles he'll offer creativity, while Rashford was our second highest assister last season behind Bruno. You also have Shaw who is currently near the top is the "key pass" metric for the EPL.

Then we have young players like Amad and Shoretire coming through who are fairly creative.

The other issue we are seeing with Pogba on the left wing is Shaw is being more exposed and teams are able to get at us easier in the wide areas. While we are congratulating DDG on his fine form this season he does only have one clean sheet in six games across all competitions.

We have the joint worst defensive record of the top 5 teams and even newly promoted Brentford have a better defensive record than us so far this season.

I think before we consider spending a huge amount of money of giving Pogba a contract that almost demands he has to start every game we should see how long he can keep this form up. We do have a record of giving players big new contracts when they hit a purple patch of form only to see that form drop off a cliff once signed.

Is Pogba playing well because he is trying to earn a big move/ new deal? If so will he put in as much effort once he has that deal?

Personally I'd let him go. But then I'm not in charge.


6.) 20 Sep 2021 09:37:43
Pogba still takes far too long on the ball most times. He will work miracles of given the space but with teams pressing him he is a liability. Would be a different t class in another league, but not in the EPL.


7.) 20 Sep 2021 10:06:23
Shappy you are missing your vocation in life, ever thought of applying to be one of those First Team Performance Analysts, you might have to condense your presenting style though.
Incidentally large contracts or fees doesn't demand you are an automatic starter, look at Jadon and DDG who was essentially the back up keeper despite being the highest paid player at the club last season. If you aren't performing then you get dropped, that is how it should be.

Not sure I agree with your characterisation of our defence. In all competitions we have conceded 5 compared to Liverpool 3, City 4 and Chelsea 1. Two of those conceded were deflections, one was a wonder goal and the fourth was a huge individual error, not that bad then.


8.) 20 Sep 2021 10:10:03
Grim rash got 15 assists and 21 goals from left primarily lay season. Poges won't get near those numbers.
Get him out of club asap.


9.) 20 Sep 2021 10:25:32
Grim, while we could debate each goal and how it went in, the fact remains that the opposition got into a goalscoring position and were able to get a shot away.

Also we are all talking about DDG's good form, well he can only be in good form if he is making important saves. The fact that he is being called into action so regularly should be a concern. Especially after spending so heavily on Varane in the summer.

To have a better understanding and context City might have conceded 4 goals across all competitions but they're keeper has faced 41 shots with 9 on target in those 6 games.

DDG on the other hand has faced 77 shots, with 24 on target in his first 6 games.

So while we might have only conceded 2 gaols more than City, we have conceded nearly twice as many shots with DDG making 18 saves to Ederson's 5.

Defensively we have been poor this season so far and we are miles off of where City are (who should be the benchmark as defending champions) .


10.) 20 Sep 2021 14:56:44
Never mind the money, I would more than happily trade Pogba for a top international class defensive mid. It's a position we clearly still need filling and the lack of quality there continues to keep us unbalanced. It would seem VDB has no real role at the club, so sell him too and invest in a younger creative midfield talent.


11.) 20 Sep 2021 15:11:13
Shappy stats only give you a partial picture, not all shots on goal are equal. A shot straight at a goal keeper which is a comfortable save is the same as a finger tip save in the top corner when it comes to stats. Unless those shots are given a weighting, should have saved compared to stopped a definite goal, what does it tell you.


12.) 20 Sep 2021 15:22:12
We are poor defending as a unit, one would hope Varane and McGuire strike up a better understanding and like I have said on here many times you will never win nothing with AWB in your team, before everyone jumps on his great tackling that’s he’s only saving grace because he is always out of position, then going forward he is diabolical every time the ball comes to him, he has to try control it first, stop, then turn back then maybe a pass, by then all too late!


13.) 20 Sep 2021 16:38:25
Grim, stats do only give a partial image. Yet the fact remains we have allowed almost double the number of shots at our goal than City have allowed. While more than three times the number of shots have been on target.

Admittedly we don't know the standard/ quality of those shots. What we do know is DDG had to intervene to stop a goal.

In general if you are allowing more shots at your goal you will concede more goals.

At the moment we are too porous and are allowing sides to get at us too much. We can't seriously expect to challenge City for the title if we are allowing our opponents twice as many shots at our goal than City are allowing at theirs.


14.) 20 Sep 2021 17:27:04
But City have ao far faced Spurs, Norwich, Arsenal, Leicester and Southampton. Four of those teams are in the bottom seven for number of shots so far this season, obviously they have faced shot-shy teams which are skewing the stats.


15.) 21 Sep 2021 09:21:43
Grim, City faced three teams expecting to challenge for European places. Leicester and Spurs will challenge for top four this season. While Southampton have held both ourselves and City to a draw this season.

Are these shot shy teams or are they teams that have had tough fixtures?

While are we to expect that Leeds, Southampton, Wolves, Newcastle, West Ham and Young Boy's are all Uber attacking teams that are expected to have many shots in most games?

Southampton are one of those shot shy teams when facing City, but somehow had a good game against United suddenly finding their shooting boots. I suppose Bruce's Newcastle and Moyes's West Ham are now offensive powerhouses rather than defend first teams managed by pragmatic defensive managers. What about Wolves and their back five approach, are they an attacking team?

Fact remains that teams we have faced are having fare more chances to score than City allow their opponents. In a small sample size of 6 games you might get away with that. Across a whole season that will come back to haunt us.


16.) 21 Sep 2021 13:49:36
Leicester and Spurs have had 43 and 46 shots at goal respectively so far, compare that with our 79.

Leicester have so far only beaten Wolves and Norwich and lost to Brighton, City and West Ham. Spurs have beaten Wolves, Watford and City and lost to Chelsea and Palace.

If you want to compare then we played Southampton they only managed 8 shots at goal, three on target. Against City 10 shots on goal, two on target. There is not much between the teams defensively.


17.) 21 Sep 2021 19:06:24
Grim, I guess at the end of the season we will see. I expect that City will have conceded at least 10-15 league goals less than us come May.


 

 

28 Aug 2021 10:08:33
Do we envision Cavani relinquishing the #7 shirt for Cristiano? Would be very strange if he didn't considering the CR7 brand.

RedWhiskey

1.) 28 Aug 2021 10:58:03
There seems to be some premier league rule that suggests he won’t be able to.


2.) 28 Aug 2021 11:08:21
Rw there is conficting reports on whether its allowed, unless the player leaves he can't offer his Jersey no for change to another player mid season. I stress not confirmed.
I know one thing for sure, sancho will have to wait for his turn🤣.


3.) 28 Aug 2021 11:41:38
I read somewhere that as Cavani hasn’t played yet this season, Ronaldo could take the number 7. Don’t think Cavani could take the 9 though.


4.) 28 Aug 2021 12:38:06
It has to be an exceptional reason to change squad numbers after they have been submitted to the Premier League, marketing reasons is not considered a reason.
He has a choice of 12, 15, 24, 28 and 30. I'm putting my money on 28 as that was the number he requested when he first came to United.


5.) 28 Aug 2021 13:21:34
How about 77?


6.) 28 Aug 2021 14:05:08
He should take the number 26, he's four times the player that left when he was No.7.


7.) 28 Aug 2021 15:52:15
Don't worry Shappy, 7 out of 10 people can't do maths. The other 4 don't care.


8.) 28 Aug 2021 15:54:09
7x4 is 28 shappy.


9.) 28 Aug 2021 17:09:24
I put 28, I think someone is having a laugh 😂.


10.) 28 Aug 2021 17:11:34
I'm guessing he'll get 77 or something similar.


 

 

27 Aug 2021 20:49:24
I'm sure CR is going to love playing with Fred. I can see a lot of strops coming this season. Excited nonetheless.

RedWhiskey

1.) 27 Aug 2021 21:19:58
Jesus Christ.


2.) 27 Aug 2021 21:45:07
I hope ronaldo trains with Fred before the window closes.

After he sees his first touch, i reckon neves would be signed within the hour.


3.) 27 Aug 2021 22:14:58
At least they will be going at it Portuguese.


 

 

 

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13 Sep 2021 14:58:00
Fickle as hell. Few shiny signings so maybe pogba will choose to stay and now everyone's for pogba staying. Few weeks ago it was get rid ASAP. Least my minds not been changed, he should just go. Too much hassle and never truly wanted to be here.

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Surprised your not happy at that shaps. Sure are happy with the current slop we play so ?‍♂️.

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For the exact same reason everyone here is clamouring for DVB to play. How's he meant to get into the groove without gametime? There is going to be plenty of gametime for mason, trust me.

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