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23 Apr 2019 05:32:05
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23 Apr 2019 01:29:08
Interesting situation.
Now that Chelsea drew, a win against City could potentially put us back in top 4 (pending Arsenal game) .
Liverpool fans will be hoping we beat City. City will go all out to beat us. Now we will see why are our players - boys or man.
Do we want Liverpool or City to be PL champion? It's all in our hands. What a predicament.

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{Ed0333's Note - you should play to win every match even if it means helping you’re bitterest rivals win the title 666 🤣

23 Apr 2019 04:48:07
I think I would want us to try and win but I also remember when faced with a similar situation a few years ago slippy G slipped made a back pass to Drogba to ensure their win. Returning that favor would be nice.

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22 Apr 2019 22:17:52
Ed, Who do you think would be the right candidate to not just guide Ole but also help create a strong foundation and get the football right?

I don't know much about the names mentioned as nobody really mentions them. You think you could shed some light on the names we are linked with?


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{Ed002's Note - No one will be “guiding” the coach.}

22 Apr 2019 22:36:46
Hes the manager of one of the biggest football clubs in the world, he's not 4 years old, even though he is the babyfaced assassin.

No one should need to babysit him.

The technical director will just be there to make sure recruitment matters run more smoothly. We have a lot of scouts and they need to be on the same page with the manager.

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22 Apr 2019 22:02:24
If you have the time, is there any foundation in M Phelan coming in as a footballing director?

Thanks for any clarification in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

22 Apr 2019 22:10:23

Kind of happy with that but till leaves the scope for Ed W to bring in some “ virus’ “.

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22 Apr 2019 21:02:29
Is Mike Phelan the new dof?

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22 Apr 2019 20:57:43
During our managerial changes, has the backroom staff always changed or have some remained throughout. Specifically i'm thinking about fitness and conditioning staff. I am asking because aside from the players who can't be bothered like Martial, there are others who do care but just seem far less fit than other teams.

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22 Apr 2019 18:27:56
What's the difference between a sporting director, director of football and a technical director

I really have no idea and I'm curious to know the differences.

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{Ed002's Note - It is to do with responsibilities or the structure of the club. Ignore "Sporting director" as it is not used in England. The DoF would typically have broader responsibilities extending to all footballing activities - youth etc.. Technical Directors tend to focus on running the scouting for the first team.}

22 Apr 2019 20:32:33
Thanks ed technical director sounds pretty pointless tbh.

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22 Apr 2019 21:07:13
Please pardon my ignorance ed, but is it usually a case of one or the other (DoF or technical director) with clubs or do you sometimes see clubs having one each? The only reason I ask is technical director sounds quite limited?


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{Ed002's Note - If the club has a strange organisation like Arsenal you could have both - but that has fouled up their recruitment.}

22 Apr 2019 22:15:48
A case of too many cooks then ed? So with regards to the scouting, if phelan is appointed would it be him who sets the scouts assignments, ie the type of player wanted, and would reports then go to him? Sorry for the questions. Not sure how this works at all!

Thanks for explaining.

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22 Apr 2019 19:30:10
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22 Apr 2019 16:57:27
Serious problem at present is the lack of captain (leader who is respected) on the pitch, when have you seen anyone dish out a rollicking on the pitch or setting the tone with a strong tackle when required etc. You need a guy who can not only set the standards but who will be listened on the pitch and tell lazy players to work. Again Neville said it yesterday all the players including the stars of our previous teams worked, all Liverpool and City players work its a basic requirement and if your not prepared to do that then sell them. It reminds me of the young kids I train, they all want to be forwards and score goals but no one wants to defend or work back, it's understandable for kids starting out but not grown men.

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22 Apr 2019 19:02:09
Who do you think would make a good leader/ captain, a player we have or a realistic transfer target?
I entirely agree we need at least one, preferably several but there seems to be a lack of them. We used to have them all over the pitch Schmeichel, VDS, Bruce, Pallister, Ferdinand, Vidic, Irwin, Evra, G. Nev, Ince, Keane, Giggs, Beckham, Cantona, Hughes. Are modern footballers just lacking in character?

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22 Apr 2019 19:54:05
Kasper Schmeichel
Toby alderwield.

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22 Apr 2019 15:08:37
Do we give away the status of a legend too lightly at United? Seeing Ole branded as a legend of the club. Basis what might i ask? That one night in Barcelona? 100 odd goals for the club and we brand a player a club legend too easily. Soon enough people will start calling Martial and Rashford legends, they are half way there already? Is there a criteria that defines a legend? Rooney for me would be a legend, Giggs, Scholes, Best, Cantona, SAF, Charlton among others. Solskjaer for me would not come into the category.

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22 Apr 2019 15:31:29
If you play for the club for over 10 years, score as many goals and as many important goals as he has then I think he gets the right to be called a legend.

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{Ed0333's Note - of course he’s a legend. Only an idiot would say he isn’t. He claimed legendary status that night against Munich.

22 Apr 2019 15:58:30
Still don't see the criteria Shappy. Valencia has played 8 years. Macheda scored a brilliant goal and an important one. Chicharito scored many such goals. Is Sheringham a legend? He scored the first one against Munich. Is Carrick a legend on his tenure? I mean no disrespect to Ole, he was a great servent of the club but not a legend in my eyes. Ole's Legendary status is a romantic/ sentimental notion based om that night in Barcelona.

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22 Apr 2019 16:37:51
Think you've been out in the sun too long Shan it looks like you have sun stroke.

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22 Apr 2019 16:25:07
A lot of legends are based on sentiment and also likability. For me Pirlo was never as good as his ‘legendary’ status perceives but he’s a cool, likeable guy and therefore will be remembered in very high regard.
You’ve also got to remember that Ole was a great servant to the club for being the guy who played second fiddle for his whole United career but when called upon did a fantastic job, and some! The four goals against Forest from the bench is an iconic moment for me. Add that with his professionalism and that, for me, makes him a bit of a legend.

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22 Apr 2019 16:32:48
Interesting question. I hope you don’t me asking Shan but how old are you or more pertinently how old were you in ‘99?

Ole often sat on the bench, never complained. He was offered a way to Spurs but he decided to stay and fight. Post Bachman it looked like he as going to be first choice but then got injured. It’s not just st tha goal, it’s the 4 he scored in 20 minutes away at a forest, it’s the countless times he came on rescue us but it’s also his style, his approach, and his respect for our club. Legend all day long for me.

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22 Apr 2019 16:35:34
People forget how good ole was. He missed nearly 3 years due to injuries. He scored numerous big goals in the club’s history, not just that goal in Barcelona. Top player and a hero to many. Deserving of legend status.

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22 Apr 2019 16:51:23
I think that moment coupled with his service and attitude all contribute to his status as club legend.
When people talk about united quality. that's exactly what ole was.
Team before self at all times.
Try to be as good as you can be at all times.
Respect the club the manager and the fans at all times.
Realise how lucky you are and to work hard every day to maintain that status.
Ability to deliver in key moments.
Keep a low profile off the pitch.
Have a winning mentality.
Make mistakes but bounce back stronger.
Thats united quality that's what its all about.
Ole had them all as a player and gave us possibly our finest moment on our history. that's why he is a legend.
He can't see those qualities in too many of his squad. Nobody can.
He has a big job ahead of him.
Extremely light on experience he needs to learn on the job and learn quickly.
Can he do it? Who knows, but the odds are stacked against him. I would say a man coming into this job with as little experience as ole has a less than 5% chance of success.
Whatever the strategy is and at the moment it remains totally unclear' we will know a lot more about our chances next season when the transfer window shuts.

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22 Apr 2019 17:14:34
Legend but not a great. Greats, Best, Charlton, Law, Edwards, Ronaldo, Rooney, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, Vidic and maybe others, they were renowned as the best and great players. Ole wasn’t a great, but he knew how to score a goal and scored one of the most important goals in our history, therefore a legend.

The legend status makes it harder to speak honestly about his suitability for the managers role and that will be an ongoing problem.

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22 Apr 2019 17:21:53
Jesus what an awful post.

None of the current side will be legends until they sort themselves out. They probably worry about there earnings than being a club legend.

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22 Apr 2019 17:21:59
AJH was going to say the same thing!

Aged 6 in 99 but I grew up adoring Ole to the point I was full on teary eyed when he announce his retirement. Oles also only ever played for the badge (The time he got a red card for stopping another team getting us on the counter being the last man) baby faced assassin for a reason. I'd say you would've had to have grown up around them times to understand why OGS is and will always be a club legend. Ahead of RVN and RVN scored hell of goals for us. Imo RVN doesn't even come close to the legendary status of our Solskjaer. #ThatNightInMunich #AndSolskjaerHasWonIt.

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22 Apr 2019 19:08:09

Cantona for United: 70 goals in 156 appearances, 4 Premier League titles, 2 FA Cups, 0 Champion's League

Solsksjaer for United: 126 goals in 366 games, 6 Premier League titles, 2 FA Cups, 1 Champion's League (scoring the winning goal in injury time)

If Cantona is a legend (and he is, as you admit) then so is Ole.


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22 Apr 2019 19:34:10
The guy scored the winning goal in the final of club footballs biggest prize. Is anything more legendary?

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22 Apr 2019 19:46:49
Great post Ken and well said RWWD.

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22 Apr 2019 21:06:06

Bit of homework for you, go and watch all of Ole’s goals for united, I think they often show them on MUTV so should be out there to watch, then come back and apologise for even asking the question.

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22 Apr 2019 22:13:16

He only needs to watch one goal.

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22 Apr 2019 16:57:16
Shan, read shappys criteria again. none of the players you mentioned fit that criteria whatsoever.

As ed0333 says, only an idiot thinks OGS isn't a legend.

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23 Apr 2019 05:09:41
Apologise my butt GDS2.

Tony, i was 12 at the time but that moment still gives. me the jitters every time i watch it, although the rest of the game wasnt exciting.

Interesting and good arguments put forth by almost everyone, except for GDS2 who thinks of himself as the moral police on here, and i agree to most of you guys. I repeat myself that i mean no disrespect to Ole but for me a legend is a term that should be used for stalwarts, someone larger than life in the history of the club. I agree Ole was there at the right place at the right time in 99 and scored a few more goals as a sub but for me that isn't enough to be called a legend of the club. Yes his name is etched in the history books and he was a United star at the time but still not a legend.

Cantona babysat the class of 1992 and brought out the man in them. Even SAF dare not point a finger at him as he carried the team. Even his kungfu is legendary. Solskjaer was 4th striker in the team most times and was in a team that had Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, RVN in their prime so it wasnt a one man show with him.

Ken all those qualities define a good footballer not a legend.

Hey but i am not arguing with anyone here. Just put up a question because i think we use the term legend way too casually.

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22 Apr 2019 12:04:55
I must be honest. I wouldn't shed a tear if any player was sold at the end of the season. Proof that a player is good means doing it when you have to. Many observers have spoken of the lack of heart and will to win. I'm not sure how many of our players are intelligent enough. I believe that football is played 80% with the head and 20% with the feet. Too many of our players have got that percentage the wrong way round.

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22 Apr 2019 15:09:49
It would be the other way around if only our players knew how to play football. I doubt most of them use their head at all and have two left or right feet (depending on which one is the stronger)

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22 Apr 2019 19:34:37
I'd shed tears of relief if some of them moved on.

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22 Apr 2019 22:49:11
Silly question really.

A legend in my eyes for all the reasons already given.

He was always ready to come off the bench and have an impact, such as the winner against Liverpool in the FA Cup, 4 goals in 20 mins against Forest, Barcelona.

He was a team player, unselfish and 100% committed at all times.

He was also an unbelievable finisher something that Rashford and Martial could tap into if they wish to listen.

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