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03 Jul 2022 05:13:39
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03 Jul 2022 02:55:12
Dejong doesn't wamna come, Ronaldo wants to leave. Forget about the so called superstars. don't need them don't want them. We need some grafters don't matter how much they cost. WE ARE UTD.

03 Jul 2022 04:17:37
Alice in Wonderland.

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02 Jul 2022 22:26:45
Seems a strange business model at utd . Buy players like pogba, mata, matic for god knows how much and let them leave for nothing .

Turn down money for lindgard despite just weeks left on his contract, hold onto Ronaldo despite him pushing 38 and try to buy Dejong despite it looking like he'd rather stay in Barcelona .

Ronaldo has been my fav player but if money is offered for a bloke pushing 38 with a year left on a contract I'd be taking it .

We were pants last season and it appears so far we have changed our back up left back option although not done yet .

Things can change quickly and a few through the door and things will look different, I hope we stop ths thing we do where we pay too large a wage to try to protect a players value but make them difficult to sell and instead just sell players
Who indicate they want to leave.

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02 Jul 2022 20:48:22
Laporta saying Barcelona wants to keep Fdj. day keeps getting worse. Really think the club should move on. Barcelona playing about and Fdj doesn't want to come, it's a bad combo.

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02 Jul 2022 20:52:34
wouldn't worry about what he says too much he also said he'd have to take a lesser salary. I don't think we go this far down the rabbit hole to come back with nothing.

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02 Jul 2022 20:56:27
Agree completely Tim. I think it's time to walk away from this one.

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02 Jul 2022 22:24:19
You're taking what Laporta (a politician) says as gospel. He said last month that Frenkie wasn't going anywhere and then continued to negotiate with us.

If De Jong doesn't want to leave then we should walk away bit don't take any credence to what Laporta says. I would assume FDJ signs in the next week.

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03 Jul 2022 04:19:50
You can really copy and paste his statement from the Messi saga. He said exactly the same thing and a week later Messi was having his medical in Paris.

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02 Jul 2022 18:21:14
Ornstein now confirms Ronaldo is looking to leave.
This complicates things for us since we haven't signed a striker. I'll be very surprised if we make top 4 now.

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{Ed014's Note - does that mean you were thinking you would have made top 4 with him?

02 Jul 2022 19:12:19
Record champions league goalscorer wants to keep playing in the champions league, pretty understandable.

However i struggle to see many champions league clubs wanting to pay those wages for a 37 year old.

Might be a blessing in disguise for Ten Hag though if he were to leave.

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02 Jul 2022 19:06:53
He guarantees you 20 goals a season, so why not.

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02 Jul 2022 19:07:21
From my experience we don't like to replace when players leave.
Ronaldo left last time we didn't replace him.
He leaves today, we probably don't replace him.
Martial or Rashford can't score anymore.
Top 4 would have been a fight this season. If Ronaldo leaves top 4 is almost gone.

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{Ed014's Note - I just can’t see past Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Spurs for the top four slots.

Spurs have done some great business.

02 Jul 2022 19:12:44 an Arsenal fan trying to take the mickey or be funny. comedy gold 🤣🤣🤣.

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{Ed014's Note - and there’s you failing thinking I was being funny you donut! 🤦‍♂️

02 Jul 2022 19:33:41
Absolute 1st class comedy gold 🤣🤣
Just approve what's written and don't confuse yourself. you silly sausage 🤣🤣.

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02 Jul 2022 20:01:36
Ronaldo wants to play champions league football, he should of thought about that when he stood still waving his arms in the air for 90% of our games 🤣.

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02 Jul 2022 20:11:57
Now Barcelona come out and say FDJ is not leaving.
The way we are run, won't be surprised if Ronaldo left and FDJ didn't come.
More of beautiful footy with McFred.

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02 Jul 2022 20:28:37
Tbf, I can understand why he'd want to leave - United in the Europa isn't an attractive proposition.

Personally, I think it's possible that EtH could get a tune out of Rashford and/ or Martial. If he can get them to engage in the high-press system and actually work for the ball, one or both could hit 20+ - they each have it in them, they both just need to be managed properly.

Additionally, the likes of Garnacho, Hugill and McNeil could flourish.

Let's face it, United are nowhere near the table of elite-level strikers so, whether or not Ronaldo leaves, we are limited to what we have.

One season will confirm whether or not United need a new striker.
If we finish, as is likely, outside the top 4 and our options have been disappointing - then it's a disaster.

Give him a season, let him coax what he can out of those who have let themselves down, then see where we are.

I believe Rashford especially has the potential to deliver - injury-free and no longer slapped all over the media where the criticism thrives, he could be like a new signing.

I'm hoping that EtH can get him, Sancho and Elanga performing with pressing, tracking and ruthless desire for goals - they all have it in them.

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02 Jul 2022 20:38:36
You cannot go into a season with Rashford and martial.
A couple of years back we had Cavani and Greenwood.
We had 5 strikers last year.
If you think rashford and martial will pull up trees you'll be pleasantly surprised.
You have to sign a striker, be it a Belotti on free, or Schick or someone else.
Everyone else bar Ronaldo forgot how to put the ball in the net.

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02 Jul 2022 20:39:23
I don’t think Martial has a ruthless desire for anything….

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02 Jul 2022 20:55:03
We definitely need a striker, we needed one before Ronaldo came out with this nonsense!
Already I’m sick of seeing the, who can blame him, he deserves this that or the other! How about as supporters of our club you tell it for what it is, he’s an absolute coward, where’s he been until now? Also some of his performances last year were an absolute disgrace! Me me me! Let him go because he will hold us back, don’t let him go because he thinks he’s too good for us!

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02 Jul 2022 21:06:57
Imagine thinking a manager could get Martial to press. Here I have some rocking horse 💩 to sell you.

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02 Jul 2022 21:17:41
Now we need 2 strikers.
Things couldn't have got worse.

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03 Jul 2022 00:39:18
Firstly, for clarity, I've not said that Rashford or Martial are definitely going to turn up.

Secondly. Schick would be a great addition - but would he want to come to United and sacrifice CL? I don't think so.

Thirdly. Don't give me Belotti. He got only 8 goals and 1 assist from 1,376 minutes in Serie A - as a main striker. Rashford got 4 and 2 from 1,233 minutes in PL from the flanks.
Belotti would solve nothing.

Let's be real, United will not get a Martinez, Schick or Osimhen this summer - not a chance.
So, would you all rather sign strikers who would likely score little more, if more at all, than Rashford or Martial?

Do me a favour and wobble your heads.

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02 Jul 2022 13:26:33
For those hanging on every word for a signing, the new kit launch has been delayed to July 8th. Not that I am a cynic at all.

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{Ed014's Note - Shappy and his nugget of a sidekick will be chuffed!

02 Jul 2022 16:00:22
Oh it’s been a while since the abuse Ed, things must be looking up. Nugget? 😂

Looks like we will have some signings in place in the next few days doesn’t it, hopefully we get Martinez ahead of Arsenal.

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02 Jul 2022 16:32:20
Gives us enough time to remove Ronaldo from all the marketing as he's asked to leave.

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{Ed002's Note - You knew there was every chance.}

02 Jul 2022 17:07:25
Mixed feelings about him leaving:

Huge wages and stifled tactical flexibility


No other striker.

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02 Jul 2022 17:14:36
He obviously knows that an offer is coming if he has indeed asked to leave. Rashford and Martial don't inspire any confidence. We may need to be in the market for a proper striker now.

Ed002, club still in for Calvert Lewin?

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{Ed002's Note - He might be one of the options.}

02 Jul 2022 17:30:08
Osimhen? Scamacca? Calvert Lewin? Ekitike? The French lad from Leipzig? Plenty of forwards out there. Ronaldo will score goals but he is in decline and hasn’t the legs to press these days. It’s not the end of the world if he goes…. once he’s replaced properly. Maybe Kane could be tempted away from Spurs? But let’s not get too upset about a 38 year old possibly leaving the club.

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02 Jul 2022 17:38:20
It might be a good thing if Ronaldo chose to endure another season at United, but if he goes at least it reduces the payroll for the year by £25m+ maybe freeing up space for another acquisition. And sometimes losing a dominant striker and replacing him with the right blend of other outfield players works wonders. SAF did it when he sold RVN and bought Carrick. More goals scored, more spread around, fewer conceded - and we won the title back from Chelsea. Sometimes the fans and the pundits are so stuck on the top line statistics that they fail to see the wood for the trees.

This year or next, it's going to happen. As great as he obviously is, and even at 38 - still retaining a goal scoring instinct and ability beyond any of our other players - we should not be delaying the rebuilding process to accommodate him. Yes, he was last year's star, but look how the season turned out.

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02 Jul 2022 17:42:24
DDG1, I don't think many fans would be too upset if he left but it's the timing of it. We've holes all over the squad to plug without replacing our top goalscorer. We were already struggling to find someone as back up for him.

We don't have unlimited funds either so some of those you've mentioned will be unobtainable this summer. I don't think anyone has ever sit down with Napoli and walked away thinking they've got a good deal, they would rinse us Osimhen. DCL would cost a pretty penny too as Everton don't need to sell and honestly I would stay away from the overrated English players.

There are of course players that could come in but considering the other areas that need improving, this isn't great timing for him to decide to leave.

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02 Jul 2022 17:46:02
one of my all time favourite United players- sorry to see him go but let's be positive its severing another tie to the old guard and there were stories of him stifling some of the other players . huge slary saved too.

He loved the club, and his desire to win is something the others should be aspiring to.

No hiding place for Rashford, Sancho Bruno when he goes -they have to step up. I don't mention Greenwood or Martial as both wouldn't feature again it it were up to me.

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02 Jul 2022 17:17:31
I know that ed. You've told us he's been making moves to leave. It Just feeds into the chaos at the club that we don't need.

Malacia, Martinez, Dr Jong and Eriksen would be a solid window. I think if Ronaldo can find himself a new club then we may struggle to get a striker in at the calibre we need.

Do you know of any interest in Ronaldo ed? You've said Jose would be keen but leaving United for Roma seems like a step slightly down?

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{Ed002's Note - Christiano Ronaldo (F) Another player not totally happy with his lot and it is unclear how to he will be received by the new coach. I understand that he would be open to offers and that JM is making enquiries. There is already one offer on the table from Roma and JM has been speaking with Sporting. Inter Miami may offer a wildcard solution. The new coach or not being in the Champions League may well provide a suitable excuse to depart without upsetting the fans. May stay the season and look to Inter Miami next summer.}

02 Jul 2022 17:21:01
Thanks Ed002. Would you be kind enough to provide a refresher on the strikers we have or may look at? Nunez obviously no longer an option now.

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United need to make a decision over Martial and Rashford the coach needs to look at what they have available in terms of emerging players like and decide if they can integrate any of the youngsters like Alejandro Garnacho and Joe Hugill. Players like Harry Kane, Lautaro Martinez and Victor Osimhen are facing interest from far more attractive clubs if they were to be made available and sold. So moving for players like that would require someone to sell the project and the players would have to accept that they would be dropping down a level for at least one year. Interest in players like Alexander Isak and Patrik Schick will go nowhere as they already have offers on the table and neither would likely be interested if they were to move. Dominic Calvert-Lewin - I doubt Everton will want him to leave and are soon to talk with Chelsea about adding a striker to replace Richarlison. Joao Felix will stay where he is. Evanilson was subject to an illegal approach by an English side before he left Fluminense. Manchester United have scouted another Porto player but I am not aware of any approach for Evanilson although I am aware of the suggestion of interest. Maybe Ronaldo could be forced to stay – regardless it is early days. The striker ten Hag wanted at Ajax is no longer available.}

02 Jul 2022 18:35:15
A deal for Antony was always going to be difficult with Ajax not wanting to sell and asking for a very high price.

I'd imagine if Ronaldo leaves then we will sign a striker rather than a wide player, maybe opening up a chance for someone like Amad, Pellistri or Garnacho to stake a claim.

Bachmann, Malacia, De Jong, and Martinez are expected to sign at some point if everything goes smoothly. Eriksen might also join if he chooses to leave London.

If Ronaldo leaves then I'd expect a striker to join.

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02 Jul 2022 19:20:14
At this moment in time I don’t think any player is ‘expected’ to sign. Until I see the shirt in the players hand I don’t think any signing is a given with United.

It goes without saying that if Ronaldo goes we then ‘try’ and sign a central striker. It doesn’t take much brain to work that out.

For what it’s worth I don’t think Ronny going is a bad thing. Yeah he gets you a few goals, but we all know he ain’t the most mobile in the world and it’s widely acknowledged that ETH wants his players to put a shift in. Getting rid of his wages is a bonus and I also thinks it relieves a little bit of pressure on Bruno.

If he goes, my money is on Bayern as a Lewandoski replacement.

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Review Of The Day 1st July 2022

02 Jul 2022 07:39:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 1st July 2022

02 Jul 2022 06:39:51
So we leave for our pre-season tour next Friday. There is a decent to good chance that by that time we might have the majority of our summer signings in through the door. With Malacia all but done, Eriksen possible any day if he chooses us, closing in on De Jong, about to launch a move for Martinez, while Bachmann I think they are waiting to announce until we have a more "sexy" signing to announce first.

So I just wanted to know how all those posters who have been freaking out over the lack of signings feel at the moment? We could have as many as 5 deals done before the pre-season tour.

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{Ed014's Note - or you could simply have 1 deal done, that’s just a waste of a post mate.

Utterly pointless post whilst you can clearly say with zero certainty that any of that’s going to happen ffs! 🤦‍♂️

I love the line Erickson could join any day if he chooses us! 🤣

02 Jul 2022 07:52:36
or we could have no one at all. or 10 new players . no one knows how close we are to any signings.

In football journo speak the word "close" seems to be fluid as the kids say.

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02 Jul 2022 07:57:46
I expect Tyrell Malacia, Frenkie De Jong, Lisandro Martinez and Eriksen to be United players by next week.
Looks like the club has done a lot of work for these players in the background.

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02 Jul 2022 08:27:25
I think Malacia is done.
Am hopeful on FDJ but the wait is ridiculous - pay up or move on.
Eriksen would be my favourite signing of the summer but I just feel that if he were coming to us, he’d have been here already.
Martinez I genuinely think will happen.
Keeper-wise, I don’t understand what Bachmann would give us that Heaton wouldn’t.
I think there’ll be a signing around deadline day that hasn’t even been mentioned yet.

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02 Jul 2022 08:53:37
I think we are seeing the same old failings. FDJ seems to be digging his heels in, if Eriksen wante to come, surely it would be done by now, it seems we take forever to get even simple deals done.

I have no confidence we will get the players the Manager wants.

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02 Jul 2022 09:58:02
Shappy - Come on mate we’ve still not signed a single player yet! The first player through the door will probably be a back up left back. He may prove to be a really astute acquisition but he doesn’t exactly address the alarming hole in central midfield.

Eriksen is a decent player but at 30 years old hardly represents the future of the Club and do we really need another attacking midfielder with Bruno and VdB already at the Club. Another player that’s hardly a guaranteed starter.

The FDJ saga rumbles on with no obvious conclusion in sight. The latest development suggest Chelsea are now circling.

I know nothing of Martinez and I’m not convinced he’s an obvious starter either.

I remain cautions and interested to see which players we finally get through the door. For the sake of argument if Malacia, Eriksen, FdJ and Martinez do eventually arrive I think only FdJ is guaranteed a starting position in the opening game of the season. Let’s see what happens.

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02 Jul 2022 10:42:58
As Tony and DLIB say, we've had a lot of personnel changes, but nothing seems to have changed the way we do deals. Except, we're now going for cheaper players as the Glazers seem reluctant to compete for the best young talent.
It's rumoured that we're going for Martinez, a player ETH wants it appears, his clause is £43m and we're trying to barter and Arsenal are also hovering, so rather than take out £24m in dividends, which are undeserved and unwarranted, surely we could have offered Ajax the money they're asking for Nartinez and also offer Barcelona the few million more they've been asking for fdj. But it seems the owners are doing what they do best, look after themselves with no real enthusiasm to improve the on field activities.
Shappy, we're not moaning for the sake of it. The club needs huge investment in the playing staff and in the facilities. The new players need to be brought in early in order to settle in the area, find houses, schools etc and also acclimatise to the new surroundings and their new teammates. If we buy them in a couple of weeks, then they are going on a ridiculous tour of the far east and Australia with zero chance of settling in to the new place they call home.
It is really poor judgement and it's done to save money on wages, the later they bring them in, the more money they save. It's as simple as that.

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02 Jul 2022 11:19:18
I think you caught some big ones there Shappy 😂.

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02 Jul 2022 14:10:11
Getting any top level player into our club at this time is not simple. First you have to meet the selling club's high valuation and then you have to persuade a player to join us who would probably prefer to be at a club likely to be in the running for major silverware.

We have an incredible amount of business that needs to be conducted and a limited budget with which to do it. So, give the new guys a break, and stop whining folks. They have an enormously difficult task ahead of them undoing the rot caused by Woodward's 10 years of mismanagement. It would be great to get some deals done this week, but this is a long term project. Let's give these guys at least one full transfer window to both bring in new players and get rid of some of the overpaid dross that's hampering the effort before we engage in the tediously repetitive complaining about how nothing has changed.

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02 Jul 2022 14:26:10
Enormously different? Just a couple of phone calls and Whatsapps a day isn't it?

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02 Jul 2022 14:53:11
AaA. No real enthusiasm to improve ivest and improve the players.
Name owners that have spent more on players and investing in the team than our owners?

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02 Jul 2022 15:26:11
Don’t need another number 10 because we have Bruno and Donny

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02 Jul 2022 15:26:11
Don’t need another number 10 because we have Bruno and Donny

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02 Jul 2022 16:14:53
Honestly some of panic embarrassing.
Fans moan because we signed players last year sequentially.
This year we moan because we seem to be negotiating collectively.

What matter is ETH has who he wants at Pre Season and at the end of the window.

As you say we could have new 5 players next week but we might have none.

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02 Jul 2022 20:38:08
Ken, the Glazers appointed Woodward to do their buying and selling, to tie up commercial deals, and basically gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wanted. He wasted hundreds of millions on rubbish signings and a few hundred more on commercial players who were signed only to sell shirts. I can name a few of those.
So now, they are in deep trouble, shares trading at an all time low, debts at an all time high, and they are cutting down on the player budgets. The money is not there and that's not the fans fault, the players they wasted money on were bought from money raised by the supporters and commercial deals, they wasted the money through their bad planning and chasing big players for commercial reasons.
They have made their bed and now, we're all expected to lay in it.

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02 Jul 2022 22:18:37
AaA. Nobody expects you to lie in anything. Nothing is expected from you by the glazers, absolutely nothing.
Until the device to sell nothing will change in terms of them taking money from their own company.
The debt to value ratio sees them quids in you need to get over this. They have different objectives to you and no amount of crying is going to Change that.
Evey penny the club make belongs to them and the other shareholders. They can do ajar they like with it.
They are not trading wreklessly and finances are in fine shape from their perspective.
They have invested over 1 billion of their own money in new players and you complain about them taking out 25m a year.
You need to look at it without a fans hat on.
They will have no financial concerns at all. You and others are worry over something you have no control over nor do you understand the finances very well its laughable imo.

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01 Jul 2022 23:02:22
45 year United fan, but for last few years a Posh season ticket holder. Simply had enough of Glazers so stopped going. Anyhow. Point is United’s scouts need to be seriously considering Ronnie Edwards at Posh. He’s a class act and future England CB.

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02 Jul 2022 07:54:27
On Talksport yesterday saying Posh had got some of the best young prospects around- didn't catch their names.

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02 Jul 2022 12:09:04
Posh have always invested in youth. Their academy has just been awarded a level-2 status.

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02 Jul 2022 14:54:21
How many ex posh graduates have gone on to play for England or the top epl teams again?

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02 Jul 2022 15:14:59
What’s your point Ken? I commented about one player who it is known Darren Ferguson suggested the scouts look at. Just chit-chat. I didn’t say any number have played for England, won the world-cup or solved climate change. Maybe take your trolling to Twitter. You’ll have more fun in there.

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02 Jul 2022 22:19:40
I didn't make a point I asked you a couple of simple questions.

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