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17 Jun 2019 20:05:46
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17 Jun 2019 17:40:12
Congrats to all the boys who participated in the charity match, wonderful cause. Was the match filmed by any chance? If so a highlight reel would be fantastic.

If not, I'd be happy to lend a hand next year filming. (Assuming there is one)

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{Ed001's Note - the match was filmed but the footage is being held to ransom until half the fundraising goal is reached, so donate here please as it is for a good cause.}

17 Jun 2019 15:08:11
Hello guys. With relatively few new signings to discuss I'd like to ask your opinion on the apparent club strategy on buying young British players.
It seems restrictive in a way but when you look at the great teams of the past decades, Barcelona had a nearly all Spanish team, Bayern same with German, United with British players and so on.

Fact is that these teams were able to pick the absolute best players of the young generation in their home country. Personally I would have been opposed to this a mere 3 years ago but with England currently having one of the best up and coming generation of young players in the world now might be a valuable time to look in the British market.

The players might be expensive but this is because the league is rich, and we are capable. Aaron Wan bissaka would be a great signing, whilst Sancho would be possible in the coming seasons. Maddison is also very promising, whilst James and Maybe Longstaff (lol) show we are increasing our willingness to take risks ( though should be seen as squad players for now) .

Sprinkle in some world class players in there and we got ourselves a good team. Would be also good for the national team imo.

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17 Jun 2019 15:19:03
As an English Manchester United fan I welcome us signing English prospects. We could potentially build a team which other clubs in the Prem will be jealous of.

As long as we don't shy away from the top talents in the other leagues then I am happy for it.

It's worrying to see the lack of English / British signings in recent years from what it supposed to be the biggest club in England.

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17 Jun 2019 15:51:08
I wouldn't personally get too hung up where a player is from or what league we get them from .
United had great success with a team of young English lads but there's also plenty of signings of promising English players that hasn't went so well Jones, smalling, young, maybe Shaw . City have been pretty dominant and of what I'd say was there first eleven last season probably 9 were from foreign leagues although they had some squad players also . I don't think nationality or what league there from is the greatest guarantee of success or failure .
If we believe a young English player is the best option available that's fine and of course we should pursue it but because they are the best option available and not just because they are English or play in the English league .
Only if there's a quota issue would I give it any relevance . Ability to settle and overcome obstacles need researching as best as possible but all things being equal ability should trump nationality .

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17 Jun 2019 19:08:31
I think a core of Young British players is the way to go. We need a group of players who want to be at the club and don't want to be chasing moves to Spain after 2-3 years at the club.

I don't think nationality makes a huge difference to the quality of a player, but British players will certainly find it easier to settle in the Manchester area and be happy to stay there long term.

I would love it if we could bring in players such as Maddison, Sancho, Rice, AWB and Tierney over the next couple of windows. Add them to Shaw, Smalling, Lingard, McTominay, James and Rashford in the first team along with Henderson, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes and Greenwood coming through. That would give us potentially 16 British players in the first team squad.

Add great European talent such as Dalot, Bruno Fernandes, Dias, Milenkovic, Diop etc and we will have a great side.

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17 Jun 2019 14:30:54
This summer I really don't want to see any massive signings

I don't want any players above 50 million.

I want these players to come in with not the big price tag pressure and just get on with playing.

If we didn't sign anyone and played the kids and got rid off the rest over next 2 transfer windows then so be it.

Its about time the club looked after itself and stopped falling for the mercenaries in football.

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17 Jun 2019 15:01:42
The moment United is interested in a player the price goes up, hope we sign some gems but players like AWB, Bruno, Youri won't come for cheap.

Also i am really surprised that Ruben Neves is not a name that i see in any transfer saga.

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17 Jun 2019
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17 Jun 2019 14:40:28
Nobody is disputing that the lad has immense talent. When he is in the mood he is suberb, but that is not nearly consistent enough. Plus he comes with baggage and he doesn't want to play for us.

As well there seems to be a clique with him at the helm being quite poisonous to the team. The superstar player his PR team have concocted isn't the true representation of him. The money we would receive for him could go a long way if we invested wisely.

I was more upset when we initially lost him to Juventus the first time around then I will be when he leaves this summer.

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17 Jun 2019 14:50:19
When Nani was in the mood he was also superb.

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17 Jun 2019 15:32:46
Unpopular opinion: Christian Eriksen would have out-performed Pogba had he been in our side.

Take away the penalties and the goals dry up.
He takes people on and then turns around to do it again, then loses the ball.
Do we have stats on passes straight to an opposition player?

He could be a great, but he's not interested. If PP had Cristiano's work ethic he would be truly phenomenal and we'd have the best CM in the world.

I think most people's problem, at least mine is, is his attitude, behaviour and inconsistency.

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17 Jun 2019 16:49:28
Its the way he says "I've had my greatest season ever" when the teams just finished where it has. Sure lots of mitigating factors but if he'd spent less time disrupting things and agitating maybe he'd have been even better.

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17 Jun 2019 12:59:12
So the club are feeding to the media that they are ending their supposed strategy of bring superstars into the club.

Fellaini, mata, blind, rojo, di maria, falcao, shaw, herrera, schneiderin, bastian, darmian, depay, martial, zlatan, pogba, micky, bailly, lindelof, lukaku, matic, sanchez, fred, dalot and lee grant.

Apart from di maria, zlatan, falcao, pogba and lee grant, can any of the above be considered ‘superstars’?

Seems to me more of a briefing that the club are struggling to attract any form of top tier talent.

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17 Jun 2019 13:51:09
I would say Mata, Di Maria, Falcao, Bastian, Zlatan, Pogba, Lukaku and a stretch Matic all could be classed as 'super stars'

Basically players who are at the 'top of their game'.

Oh and Lee Grant.

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17 Jun 2019 13:59:48
I think the main reason is that the wage bill is spiralling out of control, and bringing in superstars has had a detrimental effect with a number of current players looking for big wage bumps.

The strategy may tie into Ole’s preference for young players with potential to improve, but it is borne of the more pragmatic need to address the wage issue.

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17 Jun 2019 15:29:23
Danny i think the main reason the wage bill is spiralling out of control is the club have given a lot of average players big wages as opposed to splashing out on ‘superstars’.

Hence why we are in position where we are struggling severely to get rid of smalling, jones, darmian and rojo.

We supposedly have the second highest wage bill in world football but we probably only have two players who are of such status.

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17 Jun 2019 16:52:41
Well as an average player sat in that dressing room an I see the likes of bastien an zlatan etc sat there on massive wages in going to think yeah if these mugs are paying these has beens that then I'm going to try for the same. And then they pay up. So "superstars" haven't helped.

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17 Jun 2019 19:50:13
The question is why would a genuine superstar come here over the last few seasons?

For the exciting football we play?
The supportive dressing room atmosphere?
Tropical Manchester weather?
To work with our world class coaching team?
To compete for the biggest trophies?

That’s why all the ‘big name’ players we have brought in since Fergie retired have been too old, or completely not arsed. If all you have to offer players is money, then the superstars you get are ones that are just interested in picking up a big wage. That’s why we have the highest wage bill in the league, but are still miles off competing for the title.

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17 Jun 2019 12:32:59
The transfer window is becoming increasingly dull as I get increasingly older. It's a circus show, a farce.

I can't wait for Pogba to leave, Lukaku too. They don't want to be here will therefore offer very little. No swap deals thanks, just cold hard cash so we can rebuild with players we want instead of rejects.

I'm delighted with the alleged change in direction. Daniel James could be a great success, is young and hungry to succeed. Maguire is a solid English defender, and Diop or Ruben Dias also appeals. Wan-Bissaka will be the next England right back for certain and Bruno Fernandes adds a very much needed goal threat from midfield.

Here's to leaving Twitter.

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17 Jun 2019 13:17:37
I'm not sure why people get so caught up in it . We will sign who we sign regardless of what we as a fan would like .

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17 Jun 2019 13:52:18
Might be worth reading the transfer news on Reddit instead of twitter, the guys over there are a good laugh and it's funny reading how excited they all get.

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17 Jun 2019 11:07:13
I think it is time we stop talking about Pogba, the guy is not worth all our attention. How about we applaud Dean Henderson and the comments he has made this weekend. This is what we need at United, someone passionate and determined to make it and who has got the talent to achieve this as well. Would be happy to see him have a season in the Premier League with Sheffield United but equally, if De Gea was to move on and Solskjaer was to give him a chance, I wouldn't be disappointed in that.

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17 Jun 2019 11:29:13
I agree with you Ports, but think it would do a world of good for Henderson to play for another PL club without any pressure or expectations and gather some experience first. I think Romero can do the job for the moment provided we strengthen our defense with a CB and RB as well.

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17 Jun 2019 12:36:15
Well said Ports.

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17 Jun 2019 10:29:23
Please can we just go forward in time to the end of the transfer window. quite possibly the most infuriating, irritating and boring part of football.

Player A flirts with other clubs, Player B deciding about future but tweeting clues, feels trapped in a contract they agreed for £250k per week, Player C wants Out but doesn't have the balls to say so as they'll lose certain bonuses.

Can't stand it. Everything that is ugly about football right here. Can't wait to get it out of the way and just watch some matches.

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17 Jun 2019 10:52:33
I agree Eric, wish we could just get back into the season.

I also find during the transfer window this site gets quieter which sucks because it helps me get through those slow boring days at the office.

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17 Jun 2019 11:05:49
Agree Eric. It goes on far two long especially when most of the work is already done throughout the year. If it was up to Maze It would be a 2 week window mid June to the start of July and nip it in the bud.

But alas, the brainless and video game merchants who buy into the whole circus of the transfer market and gossip columns would cry into their chai lattes if that happened.

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17 Jun 2019 12:08:01
maze please explain how that "video game" comment of 2 weeks would make sense?

would you have 5 or 6 medicals done in 1 week

there is a reason its over the course currently as there is more to a transfer than just " yeah let's take him and sign" that and many more reasons.

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17 Jun 2019 12:16:25
Bolger yes a medical can be done in a couple of hours? In your head where are the medicals being conducted? On Mars?

We live in a interconnected society where you can monitor the global market without leaving your couch. You can catch a flight direct from the other side of the world in less than a day.

Name these others reasons? The bulk of signings and market sounding is completed during the season - some agreements likely already agreed in principle prior the season ending. Do tell?

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17 Jun 2019 12:57:05
well maze i think its highly doubtful you could get say for example 6 players signed in a week or 2 unless all the pre medical stuff is done weeks in advanced .

they first have to approach the club with whom the player they want plays for even speak to the agent to see if the player is interested whether that breaks some rules i dunno. then once the fee is agreed the association of the selling club has to then contact the ITMS (how long that takes i dunno)

i am then almost certain fifa or uefa who ever it is have to give the go ahead for the transfer to continue its process

then you have to get the itc from the selling club then sort the players registration as well as a medical personal terms agent terms ect.

i just think 2 weeks wouldn't be enough to get all the deals done in good time.

you might be right it might be able to be done but that would make the window to hectic teams both selling and buying wouldn't be sensible imo


but if your right and it could happen i will hold my hands up.

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17 Jun 2019 08:24:35
So you can't buy a top with pogba on the back on the United website he's not one of the options. Well you couldn't early this morning


Hopefully this doesn't drag in all summer.

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17 Jun 2019 09:09:36
When you post nonsense like this do you even check yourself?
The rumour came out yesterday about pogbas number and I could still get his name and number then as I can now.

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17 Jun 2019 10:25:29
Incredible nonsense.

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17 Jun 2019 11:07:04
If you buy a top with Pogba on the back you are either 7 years old, a fool or one of those vegetables who embraced the dab. Gives me the shivers.

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17 Jun 2019 12:10:25
well FZZ the link i got sent was from today or i would have posted it yesterday hense the "early THIS morning comment"

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17 Jun 2019 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 17th June 2019

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17 Jun 2019 11:03:26
U hit the nail right on the head with the Pogba comment, Ed. Maybe he is checking out his stats on one of these 'who-scored' websites. I expect a few more comments of that sort in an effort to stir things up and possibly reduce Utd's asking price.
My personal take on this and other superstars at utd or possibly coming in is, the club is not in the right place to have these players come in. Something is missing, I wish i knew what, a lot has been said on this page from fans and eds, hopefully the problem will be apparent to those who are actually paid to recognize it. Thus eventually fixing it.
Till then, even if our executives boast of ability to spend, we simply cannot do what madrid or city are doing since we do not have the necessary, for lack of a better word, 'fundamentals' to grow and develop. With every rebuilding, you need a solid foundation, if you throw all your money on an expensive garnish, it will still collapse if the base is weak.
Maybe OGS has the right idea of bringing in 'hungry' lads in place of 'paycheck' stars. How well this will sit with the elite echelon of utd, I really don't know. But it will not be an overnight success. I wish our team all the best. As is said; It is always darkest before dawn.

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