17 May 2025 17:19:20
Dean Henderson doing okay atm in the cup final. Having a great first half.
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17 May 2025 18:32:36
He is. But he probably should have seen red.
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17 May 2025 16:51:07
Think we all accept that RB won't be sacked at the end of our season. He has only been with us 6months and his squad players are very poor. We have lost 18 games this season, worst ever. Teams have been relegated with more point than we have this season. While l will back our manager and hope he can get us back l do have concerns not just around him but the new board running the football side. RB has his system, but we hear he hasn't the players to implement it. He is reportedly a very good tactical astute manager, but l have some questions as I'm sure lots of us fans have too. RB has refused to alter his system despite all the defeats, this seems stubborn not astute to me, as a manager you do what ever it takes to win games. So he has worked with the players for 6 months I really don't see the changes. My big worry is if we lose next week, it reduces our financial position it attracts lesser players without Champions League football. So if we can only get 2-3 players and struggle to move on others, what will change next season? Will RB give the same Press conference answers, will he adapt his system to try and get best out of the players, l don't see it. Preseason tours are normally full of lots of you lads who won't play come the start of the season, we then have all the travelling how is he instilling the new style, it hasn't happened in the last 6 months. I am really worried for our club, we won't get 5-6 players in we won't get all the rubbish out and RB won't change his system. It's a huge game Wednesday and a huge summer ahead, l know it will take a few windows to fix, but we need to see improvements. Rant over.
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17 May 2025 17:47:42
Who is RB?
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17 May 2025 18:38:48
Ruben Bamorim.
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17 May 2025 15:15:56
Just seen the stat that we haven't won back to back games in the league all season. Jesus that's woeful. The other is that we had 30 points in December and now in may we have 39, that one can't be right surely because that means we've only managed 9 points in 5 months. Whatever the truth it really is awful.
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17 May 2025 17:09:59
ive Justine a stat and we’ve sold less pies this season it’s absolutely shocking fans areclearly losing their appetite for Ruben.
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17 May 2025 17:15:25
We have won 16 from January until now.
16 points in 16 games I think.
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17 May 2025 11:47:43
I'd say last night's starting 11 are the team for the Final, don't see any injuries back now.
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17 May 2025 13:25:12
I think you risk yoro to replace linder and you
Probably play shaw at left wing back and drop that useless t**t up top and play a false 9.
My starting 11 would be
Onana
Maz. Maguire yoro
Amad. Ugarte. Casimrio Shaw
Garnacho Mount
Bruno.
Or play Garnacho as the striker and put Bruno and the 10.
Honestly struggle to see how we score with him up top unless it’s a set piece, or some individual brilliance
Not confident at all. hope
I’m wrong and they step up for it but this group of players are bluffers.
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17 May 2025 13:44:46
Tbh,
Bruno up top is our best option, but we do lose his influence in midfield. It's abut if a double edged sword, but it is better than Hjolund up top.
Alternatively you could try and play Garnacho or Amad up top. Garnacho has been equally as bad in front of goal.
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17 May 2025 14:32:44
I watched some of the spurs game last night and their second choice team would tear us apart at the moment.
I can’t see anything but a spurs win based on Utd’s form. My only hope is that the United players somehow turn it on for one game and get some luck along the way.
It might have to be a low block and counter attack system to stand a chance. Although I have no idea where the goals would come from.
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17 May 2025 15:17:44
Says a lot that we are fearful of the team below us in the league and currently 17th 😬.
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17 May 2025 15:50:31
Wouldn’t mind seeing amad up top he can drift and would definitely worry their defenders, with Garno on the right where he is more likely to cross and mount on the left Bruno behind.
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17 May 2025 16:00:19
Garnacho is only slightly behind Rasmus as useless in front of goal… that would be a disaster too…
TBF Spurs and us are bad as each other, anything could happen on the night, they will fancy there chances after beating us 3 times this season already, but I think we turn up and win in extra time.
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17 May 2025 16:21:17
Tim it doesn’t say a lot it, I’m just not having my red tinted glasses on
We’re are a shocking team that doesn’t score goals
Spurs score goals that’s the difference.
Our forwards are so bad it’s quite embarrassing and it’s the main reason we are where we are in the league.
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17 May 2025 16:55:40
I’m actually quite hopeful. Looks like I’m very much in the minority!
Spurs’ midfield is decimated. Maddison would be the difference IMO. Without him and Kuvelsevski I think they’re a vastly weaker team.
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16 May 2025 22:39:35
Has there been a worse striker in prem history for United than hojland
Genuine question can anyone remember anyone worse we’ve had leading the line?
The forward line is as bad as it comes anyway but watching him lead the line every game is astonishing
He has 0 hold up play, his link up play is poor and his runs are worse.
Doesn’t win a header and his passing is just as bad.
Yet because we have no one else he plays 90 minutes every week.
He cannot play up top Wednesday someone else needs to play there.
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16 May 2025 23:14:10
Bolger I think we can agree that Hojlund has been awful, whether he can recover his career in a different league/ team only time will tell but he currently looks a few years away.
Unfortunately he will lead the line on Wednesday as we have no other option, we have not tried a false 9 so think he will start and change if needed.
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16 May 2025 23:17:05
Gary Birtles, couldn't hit a barn door in the wind.
And Peter Dave port, fck me, chocolate legs.
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16 May 2025 23:37:44
I was discussing this today.
Over the years we’ve had extremely talented strikers such as Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatog, Cavani, Ibra
And to now having a striker who has 1 goal in about 27 games leading the line for us shows how much we have fallen.
He seems to lack the basic understanding of an attacker. Being in the box, making direct runs etc. His positioning is dreadful.
Also, if I had a £1 for Everytime he would have his back to goal and shield the ball I’d be filthy rich. The most frustrating thing ever!
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17 May 2025 00:21:32
I was one of the first to defend him for a lack of service and to a certain extent I still do. If he had a regular service then maybe just maybe he would have improved as the season progressed.
BUT
He is proper pants. I cannot defend his performances any more. Needs to move on to a league where he can thrive. Maybe Dutch division 4.
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17 May 2025 02:42:29
His performances can’t just be put down to a lack of confidence now, he is just not good enough. It’s a shame as he has the characteristics to be a good player, he’s strong, he’s quick, he’s athletic. Unfortunately his touch is awful and his runs into the box, well, embarrassing at best. I am sick to death at this point of him running into a player, backing in to him and then losing the header or duel, it’s 10-20 times a game at this point. I agree he shouldn’t play next week but not sure there is another option, although there isn’t one player in the squad who would do worse than him, it’s impossible to be worse than his current performances.
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17 May 2025 02:46:57
His confidence has been shattered by comments like these. There has been no hiding place, no one else to come in. For the first half of the season he made good runs, he worked hard, he held the ball up and laid it off only for the his team mates to shoot on sight, and totally ignore him. Even when they cross, they ignore his run and cut the ball back, usually to noone.
We need hoylund on wednesday. We need him to get a goal or two. The only other option is to play Fernandes false nine (which he has not done at all this year), or maybe mount. How confident do you feel if we do that.
Maybe we just give blind and hopeful support to the lad and hope he can show us some of his best play when it matters most. I'd like to think that might increase our chances that deciding to stick the daggers in further and twist.
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17 May 2025 03:20:34
Khabib hojland wrestling at corners. Falling over when attacking. Zirkzee gets a lot of stick but compare the two of them and which one do ye think is an actual footballer.
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17 May 2025 08:05:03
How were we left with the only options being Hojland and Zirkzee? Our club had Cole Yorke Sheringham and Ole. People say ETH was not to blame yet when we couldn’t score goals for two seasons because ETH didn’t deal with it before, Hojland was his answer and then Zirkzee arrived, still only 2 strikers. I also watched Hojlands awful pre game warm ups live last season, the barn door was safe.
We need two more goal scoring strikers next season not one. Oshimen and Jonathan David would transform us but you can see the club wanting Delap and some donkey.
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17 May 2025 08:10:52
I’m sorry Dodgy but Hojlund is offering nothing to the team, I would rather see Maguire play the No. 9 role as he has proved more effective over the last few months.
It’s a big call by Amorim, but he should drop Hojlund, go with Mount, Garnacho, Amad and Bruno as the attack.
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17 May 2025 08:52:43
Keane’s comments and has been my feelings posted on here on Hojland since last season as well.
“They have got no striker, '. 'Hojlund tonight, he looked like the young kid from Chelsea. He looked like he had just come out of the academy. His runs weren't right, his timing, his hold-up play. Again, if you're a striker playing for Man United. even for the whole team, one shot on target? When asked if he could be better with 'more quality around him, ' Keane replied: 'We keep making excuses for him. We talk about confidence, but you still think, when you're a striker, you have to make something happen sometimes. What the big clubs have - and what United have always had - is strikers who can produce something for themselves even if they're not getting great service. They produce something because they have quality, a bit of determination, a bit of experience, football intelligence. We don't see that with Hojlund. His side are up against it all the time. Obviously he needs a little bit of support, but, my goodness, sometimes you have just got to do a little bit better. '
He then went on to say he is third or fourth choice standard striker.
What those who have a go at Amorim should consider is we score zero because of players almost solely bought or agreed to be bought under the previous useless managers and whichever idiot spent £220m last summer for ETH without solving the goal scoring issue. Zero quality up front, zero goals, zero points, it’s not rocket science.
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17 May 2025 09:28:45
I'm with KEEFY and Red Man regarding Hoijland. I used to defend him, but not anymore. It's shocking!
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17 May 2025 09:29:57
I agree; there's no point in playing him. Waste of a shirt.
I'd go with either Amad up top running in behind or (can't believe i'm saying this) Maguire who will at least provide a presence and occupy their centre backs.
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17 May 2025 09:35:00
Just seen a mental stat there Amos record now in the league is worse than Nevilles at Valencia where the fcuk do our board find these guys lucky bags Amo better win the Europa salvage something that's a Paul Jewell type season he's given us.
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17 May 2025 10:59:18
I agree with everything you have said about Hoijland, redman but 18 league defeats, no back to back wins, 8 Premier league defeats in a row is on Amorim. I don't want him sacked. He needs time to do his thing but the team has never looked as bad. Eth bought terrible players, he joined mid season and whatever other excuses are out there are excuses that no other manager would get away with. Amorim must have the best PR in world football.
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17 May 2025 11:28:44
Brum boi
Amorim must get the players needed including goal scorers in summer, then given time to put things right. The cup final result should be irrelevant to his future if we want to build the club. He came in when we were shocking, the management knowing he wanted to implement a whole new style and the players they had bought were wrong. There will have been a discussion on the impact of the coach change, so if they don’t support him this summer and give him time, then they are quite frankly a bunch of incompetent idiots.
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17 May 2025 11:32:21
He drives me mad.
Needs to be dropped on Weds. Play Mount as the false 9.
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17 May 2025 12:30:00
At last woke up and smelled the coffee!
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17 May 2025 12:58:03
Banjoe
No manager or Head Coach can win games when we score zero and have no forwards who can score. We spent two years struggling to score, now it has come home to roost. Whoever made the decision to keep ETH and spend as they did last summer is where the fault lies for this season. Looks like a few don’t get that this is what pain and open heart surgery looks like and summer is part of it and needs to be strong. If you want short termism bring in Sean Dyche, win a few games. Then realise we still need a major change.
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17 May 2025 14:49:16
I'm not dumb redman, I know there is a rebuild. He needs players but blaming ten hag for everything is wrong too. We are supposed to just have faith that this system, this plan when all is done will have us competing again. I'm not so sure. These players are not great but Amorim has them playing worse than they ever did before. Let's see how much he believes in his system at the final.
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17 May 2025 17:16:58
Red man still on that train. You have all your excuses lined up if RA goes. Nicely done.
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16 May 2025 14:23:43
I see Swiss Ramble just posted - 20 Years of the Glazers at Manchester United
Ouch, reading that has got to hurt!
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16 May 2025 19:49:20
Chris Blackhurst who wrote "The World's Biggest Cash Machine: Manchester United, the Glazers, and the Struggle for Football's Soul" was on talksport earlier this week with Jim White and Simon Jordan because of the 20 year anniversary.
I must admit a lot of the things discussed were eye opening. Especially talking about the reason the shares were sold and Fergusons impact on this, and how he was constantly defending them.
There was a lot mentioned about SJR, and how he isn't much better and his investment wasn't because of his love for the club.
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16 May 2025 23:45:27
Was that the same interview regarding Fergie and The Rock of Gibraltar?
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17 May 2025 07:12:20
Yes Keano that was the one.
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16 May 2025 06:07:50
Hey folks its a confirmed Here We Go-
We are playing a Chelsea team (who are in contention for a CL position) tonight while we have nothing to play for. So its almost a certainty that we are not going to get out of 2nd gear tonight and will mostly be playing to avoid injury and perhaps to maintain rhythm. We won't be pushing much. And we may end up losing.
So, if you plan on getting angry, throw the toys out of the pram and getting you knickers in a twist, my friendly advise would be to avoid following this game totally. Take the weekend off, think of it as the international break 🤣🤣.
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{Ed025's Note - just a usual weekend then UA.. :)
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16 May 2025 08:00:47
Yeah, totally Ed025 🤪🤪🤪. But some folks getting overly emotional so just thought to give them free consultation. 😉😉.
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{Ed025's Note - you are a psychiatric saint UA....well done.. :)
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16 May 2025 09:06:21
I'm obviously a glutton for punishment, or just sadistic. i'm going to the game, firmly in the same camp as what you have said UA, but also deep down knowing I will get all the things you have said not too lol.
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16 May 2025 09:58:06
Despite the usual weekly presser from Amorim about how it's clear we must suffer and try to win as we're Manchester United and that regardless of wednesday we'll give it 100%, I will be shocked if we get anything out of this one. I expect we'll finish on 2 defeats as we're playing 2 sides desperate for CL points.
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16 May 2025 12:20:15
Spenno
Last game is after the final and depending on how that goes we could have a different attitude and some players could be fighting for their future. It may be tougher for Villa than they expect.
I saw Amorim has done nearly 500 interviews since joining, wonder he has time to coach.
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16 May 2025 12:57:00
They need to go after this game. It's important, as important as any game and fielding a strong side is essential. Resting players when we have time to recover wouldn't be a good idea IMO.
Red man, could he not say no to interviews? He is clearly happy enough to do them.
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16 May 2025 15:38:14
This genre is largely irrelevant. Expect to see a few starters from. Wed left out.
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16 May 2025 15:52:42
Angel i see you obviously want Amorim gone. Desperately. Field a strong team? Risk more injuries? We lost Yoro last game, you want more such injuries right before the final.
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16 May 2025 16:22:25
UA, what are you talking about? I don't want him gone.
I just point out how crap it's been under him so far.
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16 May 2025 19:50:58
Is this the standard fans have come to accept now? That it's okay to not get out of second gear and fans shouldn't be angry about the team they support having no desire to win?
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16 May 2025 21:46:55
United Addict, what about those overly emotional fans who pay a lot of money to follow United home and away. Are they allowed to get their knickers in a little bit of a twist if our team roles over and gets their bellies tickled again.
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15 May 2025 23:18:38
Discussing future transfers is going to amplify over the coming months.
To simplify proceedings, I would suggest there is a primary question to be answered before proceeding with any player, and it is as follows.
Does the player in question have the potential to fall into the disruptive basket, aka Sancho, Rashford, Pogba. If so, dismiss that option asap.
My question to fellow posters is, does Cunha fall into that category or not?
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16 May 2025 03:35:34
How does anyone know on here if he does or not, it’s all pure speculation, it’s down to the club to do the correct due diligence, not trial of someone’s personality by reading crumbs of media post…
RA clearly stated he don’t like bad apples in the dressing room, so I doubt whoever RA goes for, will be known for that.
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16 May 2025 07:00:54
Cunha is a fighter on the pitch and would care for the club.
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16 May 2025 07:08:57
I think personally we could do with a couple more firery characters in the squad. As long as they perform on the pitch. I, from what I’ve seen, do not think Cunha is a Pogba, Sancho, Rashford character. He might be a loose cannon but I’m ok with that.
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16 May 2025 09:12:47
Rather than those players I think Cunha has a touch of the Cantona in him, and no I am not suggesting he is as good.
He is a bit of a maverick, has an agression about him that we will need to accept he may get yellows/ red cards.
However, could be transformational in the 10 position for us.
Personally if we could sell Rashford, Antony, Sancho (lost nothing from the current team and get upwards to £100k) and end up with Cunha. and maybe a Mbeumo (or someone scouted on continent) . We will look like a different team next season.
I would then say choose which of the current squad fill the other 10 places in squad from Mount/ Garnacho/ Fernandes (think he might drop deeper) / Amad (think he may be used as RWB next year) / Mainoo etc. can we keep all or need to sell to reinvest. Then move on those that don't fit.
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16 May 2025 22:17:14
If we could afford it, I’d add Osimhen to that list of’maybe’ troublesome characters who I’d 100% want in our team next season.
He’s just had an exceptional season on loan at Galatasaray.
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16 May 2025 23:27:08
I would not go for Osimhen. He's a Pogba character in that he is also a maverick like Cunha but he will go against the employers who made him what he is for selfish reasons and Cunha signed a deal when he couldn't left for free this year and hasnfought for the shirt.
Does remind me of Rooney, Cantona and don't forget Beckham who had a temper also. Those type of players who are hard to beat hate losing and loyal as anything are the mindset we need at the club. Don't recruit based on ability alone look for mentality monsters, not shrinking violets.
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{Ed001's Note - Osimhen fell out with Napoli over them posting up a racist tweet about him. Hardly selfish reasons!}
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15 May 2025 20:48:11
Metro have reported (lol) that if we win the Europa league that instead of an open top bus parade the owners will put on a BBQ for staff and players.
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15 May 2025 22:14:02
Widely reported
Maybe it’s BYO alcohol and food.
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{Ed025's Note - and some charcoal and a paper plate.. :)
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15 May 2025 12:45:39
Such a shame that we're not in a position to compete for Frimpong. He'd be perfect for Amorim's system and has an incredibly reasonable release clause. No chance he chooses us over Liverpool, though.
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15 May 2025 14:08:48
I think that he’s a weird choice for Liverpool.
First, it’s a major knock for Bradley. Young lad who looks like he’s ready to step up, and they sign another young player to keep him out of the starting 11.
More importantly, the reason Salah was so effective this season is because his defensive responsibilities were reduced. Trent struggled to cope with his increased defensive workload, and Frimpong likes to play even higher up the pitch than Trent. The right mid is going to have to defend the entire right flank because neither Salah or Frimpong stay back.
I get that he has a good release clause, but I’m not sure of the fit.
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15 May 2025 17:00:39
Is Salah does lose half a yard then he may move up top kind of like how ronaldo did in his later years.
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15 May 2025 18:15:09
doubt that DSG, he needs to receive the ball in space to cause damage. He does not have the heading ability or height to make him a good shout for 9.
Salah is more Messi than Ronaldo.
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15 May 2025 18:22:02
Ronaldo was better suited to that role due to his ability in the air. Salah just had a phenomenal season in his best position, and a big part of that was allowing him to stay higher up the pitch to conserve energy for making an attacking impact.
For me, he’s a player that operates best drifting into pockets of space. Whereas, Ronaldo’s game has always been about getting in behind the defence.
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15 May 2025 20:44:54
Were we not linked with Dumfries at one point. I know I have said negative things about him previously but watching him against Barcelona he was incredible.
The RWB position is still very much a weak spot, and I don't but playing Amad there because he is not a defender.
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15 May 2025 21:13:06
Yeah Jimbob, a player getting ready to play in the champions league final will definitely want to join a side that’s lucky not to be relegated this season.
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15 May 2025 22:27:58
Liverpool need cover at right back and with their amount of games it's imperative to have high quality too. Different opposition will allow Slot to choose a more defensive defender in Bradley or more attacking one in Frimpong. Additionally if Salah is injured they will have cover for him too and I dare say that woukd appmy to the left side of the field too.
Frimpong is proven to perform at an high level so is a no risk option for relatively little money.
As others pointed out he would be ideal for us but right now it's clear that our priorities lie elsewhere and our transfer budget is not big enough and lastly given the choice between a good Liverpool team and ours it's a no brainier for the majority of players unless they have a special affinity for the manager or the club.
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{Ed025's Note - spot on for me Salford mate..
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15 May 2025 22:30:50
Wow Danny, having a bad day.
I'm pretty certain he is destined to leave Inter this summer, if we get UCL, why wouldn't he come.
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16 May 2025 03:38:48
Jimbo, maybe because even if we get champions league not a cat in hells chance getting to latter stages, and maybe because there will be much better options out there for him, we are currently a very poor team and very poorly run club, we are trying to live on the past, it’s time to take the tints off, unless we offer incredible money which is not looking likely with skinflint holding the purse strings, we will be shopping at Aldi…again!
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16 May 2025 10:21:42
Jesus German, give us something positive! Just one post :D.
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16 May 2025 15:37:11
Oh sorry I must have missed the things to be positive about, perhaps you could enlighten me what there is to be positive about.
SJR, The Glazers, the Team the squad, the ticket fiasco, the redundancies, please enlighten me what there is to be positive about regarding United at this moment.
In the meantime whilst your thinking I will keep the red specs off and the reality in….
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17 May 2025 17:01:47
Oh I dunno. Chance to win the Europa Cup and get in CL, attract better players, and cheer up a few people maybe.
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