26 Oct 2026 23:04:39
Congratulations to Harry Kane. A great professional and a great example to all the lazy divas and drama queens who steal a living playing football.
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27 Oct 2026 00:46:01
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26 Oct 2026 22:06:35
Respect to Saka for winning the humanitarian award at the Ballon Dor
awards tonight. Was not aware of what he did outside the game and it's heartening to know that young players are not just thinking about themselves.
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26 Oct 2026 20:44:47
Carrick to take training tomorrow apparently. WTF!
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26 Oct 2026 20:55:35
If this is what happens it's just cruel on him. The last two days have seen the media widely reporting that the club are sounding out new managers and making the final decision on who will replace Carrick. It isn't just conjecture either because it's coming from journalists with close relationships with the club.
To send Carrick into a squad that has already thrown him under the bus publicly, knowing that he's as good as fired, isn't fair. I'm under no delusion that he should stay in charge, but making him go through a training session because the club hasn't made a final decision on his replacement is out of order. Put the under 21 manager in charge of training, and sack the poor fella. It's getting humiliating for him at this point and he doesn't deserve that.
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{Ed025's Note - i agree Danny, but this sort of behavior is typical of what we have come to expect at this modern day United mate..
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26 Oct 2026 21:36:27
I am hoping it is just an opportunity for him to say his goodbyes to the players, well some of them anyway.
I find it hard to believe what is going on.
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26 Oct 2026 21:58:20
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if they kept him .seems to me that Wilcox is more concerned about protecting himself than what's best for the football club.
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26 Oct 2026 22:04:47
It's not terrible. Perhaps they want a particular candidate and need to do things properly and approach his club first? Or their preferred candidate has a list of conditions they need to work out. We have waited years for a decent manager so a few more days is no big deal for me.
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27 Oct 2026 00:17:02
It's bad form, if they have made their decision to replace him, what gain is there to having Carrick around?
Imagine your a talented young player, and you see how the club treats great players, doing their best, would it convince you to spend your career at United?
There was a way for the club to conduct themselves with class and compassion instead I expect the club and hierarchy to make it even harder for fans to believe they have any idea what they are doing.
When I see Carrick he's a broken man, he's a fan of the club, he's one of us.
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26 Oct 2026 18:21:53
I don't think Wilcox should sack Carrick. I think the person who sacks Wilcox should sack Carrick. Makes more sense.
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26 Oct 2026 18:59:52
Won't happen.
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26 Oct 2026 20:33:48
Wilcox has chosen the last 3 managers and how well has that gone.
It absolutely beggers belive that he should have another go but the rat only deals with bargain basement, I think enough said?
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26 Oct 2026 13:23:37
Think there's a real danger that the owners, board and media mistake the fans love and respect for Carrick the player, for appreciation of carrick the manager. Think we can all agree he's a club great for what he achieved on the pitch but unfortunately doesn't have the experience, tactical knowledge and ability to succeed as club manager.
Our owners however are clueless so who knows what they are thinking.
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26 Oct 2026 17:52:56
Tim
They are incompetent enough to not get it, to see the crowd cheering the loyalty of Carrick not his skills as a coach, of which there is little.
The thing is if they keep Carrick we are staring down the barrel of relegation and I don't believe Carrick can turn it round. If they are that stupid they deserve that would result.
It's nearly 6pm and as it stands Carrick would be taking training tomorrow. That would be pure and utter incompetence from the club.
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26 Oct 2026 18:00:13
And all because of a bloody racehorse!
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26 Oct 2026 18:07:58
Re relegation, City are likely to be removed from the EPL, a minimum for me, leaving only 2 teams being relegated to the championship. I don't see Man United going down, but the situation is dire.
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26 Oct 2026 18:13:03
Or they could promote an extra team.
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26 Oct 2026 18:20:25
I think I like that better.
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26 Oct 2026 13:02:58
Gary Neville calling out the players regarding their lifestyles etc. in defence of his buddy Carrick, and failing to see that if players are not behaving professionally and getting away with it then that's also an indictment of the manager.
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26 Oct 2026 13:18:59
We are back to the ole and Carrick holiday camp mentality. 90s and 2000s mindset when the game has moved on.
We have not evolved over the last 15 years and it will be more of the same with wilcox and howe imo.
Go with a united front of vivell and naglesmann and take a leap of faith.
A united dof and coach is crucial and a shared vision.
If one vision differs from the other you've no chance as wilcox has proved on 3 occasions and i'm not sure any coach can understand wilcox's vision.
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26 Oct 2026 14:32:46
Didn't see this level of support from Gnev or the media when it was eth or Amorim. Same players a lot of them and then it was all the managers fault, now it's all the players fault .hmmmm wonder why? 🤔.
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26 Oct 2026 15:52:50
I was no fan of Amorim at the end but Neville always questioned the tactics and players playing out of positions. I haven't heard him question Carrick the same way.
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26 Oct 2026 16:46:05
Banjoe,
Double standards. United have been awful this season. Carrick and his coaching staff are responsible for setting the team up.
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26 Oct 2026 12:30:03
Got to say the most annoying thing over the last week or 2 is that despite the awful performances, despite the players calling out the Manager and the Board, after every game the players are still getting a day off.
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26 Oct 2026 12:49:01
Wtf is that all about….thanks for being s*** lads, have a day off as a reward. No wonder we look miles off the pace.
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{Ed001's Note - this is exactly what Slot was doing at Liverpool. Drove me mad. They need to be working on their fitness, not having time off. Stupid pseudo-science periodic training methods it is down to.}
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26 Oct 2026 14:31:20
When a team is winning when a team is running when that effort is seen on the pitch the approach of time off after a game makes sense of they aren't drag them in get them working even if it's just a cool down session to keep them moving or even have them review footage.
These are the mistakes Carrick has made, the team aren't fit, they aren't working hard, and that is what is causing the injuries. Amorim was a stubborn manager who would not chance his plan or formation but he had them working.
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25 Oct 2026 21:59:56
Ed001 - penny for your thoughts
If you were in charge at the club what would you do:
- executive level
- manager/coaches
- playing personnel
I suspect with new coach we will have enough of a bounce to get into the CL knock outs but I suspect league wise at this point the target from the ownerships perspective is Europa league to try and maintain some increased revenues next year (although another year with no Europe with a proper coach is really what's needed to reboot the squad (massive squad trim) and reestablish standards, fitness, etc).
We're a mess and having a peak at Liverpool, it's an unfortunate we didn't try for Iraola .looks like he is starting to build something tangible. I was pro-Amorim and thought we made a mistake moving him on after finally giving a manager enough time to try to reestablish standards and try to develop a modern playing philosophy. He maybe wasn't the long term answer but he was doing some of the work that was long overdue.
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{Ed001's Note - the problem is that the main issue is the ownership and there is nothing you can do about them! But I would bring back Rangnick, let him deal with all the issues he sees, rather than kicking him out for noticing them.
The coach is easy - go one bended knee, if needed, and get Hurzeler from Brighton. They play scintillating football and he is not afraid to look to the youth system, which imo is a must for a head coach/manager at United.
Playing personnel is difficult, as you obviously need the coach in place to know what players to buy, but the main focus has to be overhauling that defence. Any team starting the season with Maguire playing is only ever going to be mediocre.}
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26 Oct 2026 06:24:26
Thanks Ed - appreciate the response.
It was rumoured the club dumped Ragnick based on EtH not wanting him around .what a mistake that turned out to be! I'm guessing there is no chance he would come back nor the owners would accept the embarrassment of asking him back.
I couldn't agree more with you on Maguire. He is so slow on and off the ball that it severely impedes how a team can attack or defend. I feel similarly about Bruno - you get the best from him by playing chaotic counter attacking football which comes at a price (in addition the the whining and flailing) of zero positional discipline and neutering other attackers on the team. And I don't think that allows you to set up a sustainable/adaptable style of play. I really hope this public outburst leads to his deal not being renewed - we're well past the time of moving him on.
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{Ed001's Note - I think Hurzeler could use Fernandes the way he uses Gross, but with the added basic ability that Bruno possesses he could be even better at running the game.}
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26 Oct 2026 07:01:29
I think we're over complicating this. Why not sack Carrick, then appoint him back as interim? Seemed to work last time.
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26 Oct 2026 08:46:25
ED001,
I still can't belive Maguire is still at the club. He is a hinderence. That said, he isn't the only one. Dalot is an awful defender too.
The club should have sold Martinez, Dalot, Maz in the summer. The rumours of the club turning down £30 million plus for Mount, if true is deeply concerning.
At least the fans acknowledged Carrick yesterday, whilst he walked down the tunnel. Whilst I was agaisnt him be appointed permanently, he was completely hindered over a lack of defensive signings this summer. However, he must shoulder some blame too. United haven't been good enough!
In many ways, it is a shame that the club were relegated during RA first season. Perhaps, now that is the only way to get rid of the Glazers and SJR.
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{Ed001's Note - I don't understand the support for Carrick. The players are unfit & that is on him.
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26 Oct 2026 10:30:26
If your getting rid of Carrick you have to get rid of Wilcox it's literally his job to recruit the manager and players to suit the style decided.
He also seems to fall out with people and cause more issues, look at Amorim and it seems like he and Vivell don't get on.
I like the idea of rangnick ed and I like the idea of hurzeler. I would also say Paul Mitchell and Naglesmann would be a team that could work together well along with Vivell, if either of your suggestions are not available.
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{Ed001's Note - I am not a fan of Nagelsmann.
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26 Oct 2026 11:17:58
Changing the manager will not change a thing. Ultimately, the fault lies with those who recruit the players. Before anyone says, 'You get what you pay for', they are right up to a point. Clubs such as Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford can buy quality players at decent prices. Are their scouting systems superior to United's system?
The other point I'd like to make refers to our youth system.
Why don't more underage players make it to the first team? Is it because the club has overspent on average senior players who block the paths of youth players or is it because we do not recruit top quality players at a young age?
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26 Oct 2026 12:45:57
ED001,
I think it is more to do with that th3 players have given up.
That is true about being unfit, that is down to the coaching staff as well. He appeared to want United to play a high press at the beginning of the season. The players were clearly not fit enought for it nor good enough either.
It goes back to appointing an ex player who has achieved nothing as a manager. Then you get people talking about how they know the club, they understand the DNA etc.
Simply, the club needs to stop living in the past. I don't think much will. change, other than a continuous cycle of manager turnover.
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{Ed001's Note - if he wanted to play a high press, he needed to get the players fitter! The players look lacking in morale and confidence to me, a number of them look overweight, which should never happen but Shaw is a repeat offender so that does have to be put at their feet. Clearly there are some that need to consider their lifestyle. I can see why the players got it, there is an excuse that the training is not hard enough so they are unfit, but when that happened at Bayern, the players went and did extra training on their own in the local park under Ancelotti. They should be putting in more effort and be out on their feet, but very few look like they are doing so.
The question is though, why is Carrick getting support from the crowd when he is the one allowing that attitude to prevail? He is the one not getting the fit enough, letting them get away with not running themselves into the ground etc.}
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26 Oct 2026 13:44:29
Hi Ed001. I'm a big fan of the way Brighton operate, but is there a possibility that managers there will always look better because of the way the club operates. Almost 'putting it on a plate for them'?
I've no doubt him and de Zerbi are good managers to begin with, but maybe they look better at that particular club?
De Zerbi's hardly pulled up trees since leaving, and Potter has seemingly fallen off a cliff, even though I always rated him in his Brighton days.
Cheers.
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{Ed001's Note - yes, there is a possibility though De Zerbi was crap and no idea why he was so highly rated there as he took them downwards. He didn't pull up trees because he is not very good at his job.
Potter just has a fragile ego and picked the wrong job that destroyed him with Chelsea. His methods take a long time to bear fruit and he wasn't going to get that there. He is doing ok with Sweden though, who will give him as much time and support as possible.
Back to the original questions - it is impossible to tell. Certainly Brentford managers are that way and I do think to a large extent that is the same at Brighton but he still has to coach the players to play his way and you can see the results of that on the pitch. The issue is more that United would need to give him more support and backing in terms of backroom requirements. But you are not in a position where you are bringing a manager in to continue to build, you need to rip up what was there, so bringing in a man who has knowledge of the BHA set up could help build something long term and settled.}
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26 Oct 2026 16:41:35
Cheers for the reply, Ed001.
Unfortunately, we both know time is the one thing managers at our club won't get in its present state.
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{Ed001's Note - sadly it is the same at most clubs these days.}
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26 Oct 2026 00:14:23
If it costs £25m to get Emery pay it because the cost to the club for being out of Europe or worse relegated will be so much more.
In economic terms it's a no brainer
Problem is the board lack brains.
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26 Oct 2026 05:58:57
If Emery were to leave Villa to come to us in the state we are in I would question his sanity.
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26 Oct 2026 06:22:20
Why would Emery leave Villa to take up a poison chalice?
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26 Oct 2026 09:19:12
I can see why any club would want Emery - he literally lost his team's entire spine barely months ago, and already they've gelled and are second in the Champions League standings.
There is no single reason why he would leave what he has to join the carnival that is Manchester United.
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26 Oct 2026 09:48:12
How far can he take Villa though with FFP in place. what's the ceiling, champs league qualification and maybe a cup?
If he got it right at United then the sky is the limit.
Impossible job though until Wilcox is gone.
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26 Oct 2026 10:03:31
It is indeed impossible. We've had massively experienced managers in recent years, the hip up and coming ones, the beloved former players, and each time we kid ourselves that the next one is going to resolve everything.
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26 Oct 2026 16:51:58
ED001,
Carrick is simply too nice!
Those interviews that Martinez and Bruno gave go to show how soft he is. Martinez in particular, should have been dropped and banned from training.
He never had the balls to drop underperforming players. I can't think of any reason, other than a lack of experience, as to why more of the Youth players weren't given game time.
The United Managers job is a poisoned chalice!
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{Ed001's Note - it is right now, whoever gets the job has an uphill battle with the ownership.}
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26 Oct 2026 19:01:02
Oliver Holt made what I thought was a good point the other day.
I'm summarising, but basically, whilst we have those up above still in place, and the same squad, the job is a no-brainer.
Fail, and the fans will direct their ire towards the board and the players. Because we're a fan base that always hopes a new manager does well. Leave with your reputation basically unscathed if it all goes to pot.
But succeed? Against all odds? You're a magician, and your reputation rises rapidly.
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25 Oct 2026 22:39:56
Right,
Ive had enough, Massive Enough!
I'm away in Turkey and there are no United shirts NONE. Maybe old 7 Ronaldo
Where do we go from here?
I was out tonight at a steak house and its the first time II felt its more than a dip The guy serving said something that sticks, Manchester United (and he wanted a tip) will alway be a big club.
BUT.. He also said. As a casual conversation, its over now and the Premier League is the future. Manchester United are like poor Man City
WTF
Someone asked me are you from Manchester and I said yes - he said- Man Cit? !
Never in my life, never!
Sorry fo the rant, I have had enough.
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