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04 Jul 2024 18:10:21
Mr Edd002 a question please.

Is Tobido, De Ligt, Braithwaite possible if Maguire, Lindelof go along with Varane?

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{Ed002's Note - All of interest but unlikely all will arrive.}


1.) 05 Jul 2024 00:18:59
DL and JB this window, hold One of those two for a season and Todibo next year, when we are in the CL and Nice are not.


2.) 06 Jul 2024 06:46:34
United have agreed that there will be no transfer between the clubs before September 2025, so Todibo will not be turning up any time soon.


 

 

18 Jun 2024 22:13:56
Rumours of Zirkzee and Xavi Simmons today.

What do you guys think of them?

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1.) 18 Jun 2024 22:32:32
Not seen anything of Zirkzee other than an awful lot of reports, so figure his agent is in overdrive (and apparently stands to gain £12m personally so why not) .
I think if they want to go Dutch Frimpong excites me the most. Seen him in multiple positions, and a better right winger than anything we’ve got and it’s not even his best position!


2.) 19 Jun 2024 07:43:52
Ornstein spenno. Never normally writes anything until incredibly well sourced.

But I suspect Zirkzee is waiting for Milan. However, if they don't come in, we may get out man.


3.) 19 Jun 2024 08:38:16
Zirkee looked good for a very exciting Bologna side who earned champions league football. Will be a good option at a reasonable price but most rumours were of him going to Milan, however they are looking at a number of options.

Could we do a loan deal for Simons with option to buy next year, someone has said that a sale for PSG is more beneficial that way so could give us a good cheap option.

Likely all talk or at least the club looking at lots of players.


4.) 19 Jun 2024 10:55:17
Zirzkee, good enough to play for a europa league team which we are currently but also not so good that he is going to be demanding to start week in week out instead of Hojlund. Seems like an ideal signing to take the load of Hojlund.


5.) 19 Jun 2024 12:26:58
Will we even play with 1 centre forward?
We won last 3 games last season playing without a cf and using Bruno as a false 9.
It very much depends on the tactics applied.


6.) 19 Jun 2024 12:59:18
I think we should stay away from any player where the agent demands 12.5m for the transfer.


7.) 19 Jun 2024 13:33:30
DSG, zirkzee has the option to start at Bologna or start at Milan both in the CL, or he could come and be a rotation option at Utd in the EL.

Believe both Barcelona and RBL want a loan for Simons so could potentially be an option.


8.) 19 Jun 2024 14:58:51
Fuser he can get an extra 5m a year playing at united.


9.) 19 Jun 2024 14:59:21
Why kurtis?


10.) 19 Jun 2024 18:02:39
I think agent fees usually equate to about 5% commission Ken. Based on his market value at about €50m this would mean he's wanting a 25% commission.

I wouldn't want to pay such high commission for a player. I'm not even sure if this is allowed as I read FIFA might introduce caps.

I'm sure an Ed or someone else can correct my understanding if anything I've said is wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Rubbish.}


11.) 19 Jun 2024 19:37:16
I posted on the banter site tongue in cheek about Xavi simons. He’s statistically very similar to Bruno. He’s quicker and better at dribbling 1vs1 this why he’s been used on the wing at before he was at RB. Puts in a shift pressing, is press resistant and looks to pass forward. He would be a very good signing.

Zirkzee is a 6’ 4” opposite version of Højlund. Where Højlund likes it in behind and plays well as a target man, Zirkzee likes it into feet, he drops deeper and looks to use his technical ability to turn defenders and likes to be part of the build up play. He’s a lot like Martial in many ways, looking to drop a bit deeper and pull off to either side to overload. He would offer us a great deal of tactical flexibility.


12.) 19 Jun 2024 19:27:52
Thanks for the additional insight Ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are making stuff up.}


13.) 19 Jun 2024 21:54:36
Ken so you’ll pay Zirkzee 160-200k/ week? Italian clubs have the benefit of lower tax for their footballers.


14.) 20 Jun 2024 06:08:41
Kurtis, the agent worked on his transfer to Bologna, and you would assume made sure there was a clause in the contract that allows the player to move for a specific fee.

Now that several clubs feel that fee is a bargain and want to take advantage of that fee (that only exists because of the agent) why isn't the agent entitled to charge a premium in terms of their agents fee after their work will have saved the buying club money?

Also if you are to set an arbitrary fee for agents linked to a percentage of the transfer fee then surely it becomes counterintuitive for agents to negotiate a clause in player contracts that set a transfer fee at a specific amount. Ultimately meaning that the player moves for below market value and the agent gets a lower fee because of that.

The whole reason for agents to want these clauses in player contracts is to help facilitate moves which they can then make money from.

In terms of Zirkzee if he's worth 55-60m in the current market, and we can get him for a total cost of 40-45m but with 12m of that going to the agent rather than Bologna, why should we care where the money goes. Ultimately we've got a bargain and a very good player for below market value.


15.) 19 Jun 2024 23:44:34
Which part Ed? I asked to be corrected if my understanding was wrong.

The €12.5m was rumoured to be what the agent asked for. A player database values Zirkzee at €50m.

FIFA implemented regulation capping agent fees at 3% of player salaries and 10% of transfer fees, but I know this faced legal challenge in England.

Again, happy to stand corrected by your insight if you actually want to offer it.

{Ed002's Note - The 5%, the €12.5M, the value of the player.}


16.) 20 Jun 2024 10:36:39
Thanks Ed. I'll avoid the swirling social media rumours next time!


 

 

10 Mar 2024 15:52:08
United are apparently targeting a LB this summer, Luca Netz has been linked, 20 at Gladbach.

Is anyone else being watched or rumoured?

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{Ed002's Note - Luca Netz (LWB) Borussia Monchengladbach's versatile defender has been discussed with Chelsea. Other English sides have sent scouts.


1.) 10 Mar 2024 19:21:38
What about Kieran Tierney? Eds was there ever any interest about him from Utd? Always impressed me with his commitment and skill.

{Ed002's Note - No.}


2.) 11 Mar 2024 12:12:10
We are potentially looking at a new LB due to Shaw and Malacia being injury prone. I'm not sure chasing Tierney, another injury prone player, is the best idea.


3.) 11 Mar 2024 13:00:59
Thanks ed002! Chelsea have a good scouting department. Any others under consideration for Man Utd?

Harry Amass is well thought of but very young. Would be good to see him get some minutes and see where he’s at.

{Ed002's Note - Interest in the very versatile Devyne Rensch will leave with ten Hag. Miguel Gutierrez is well liked but he is likely heading elsewhere.}


4.) 11 Mar 2024 20:31:15
Thanks tor yr replies Ed.


 

 

19 Jul 2023 15:38:22
Hi Eds.
United and Arsenal had been linked to Molde’s Mannsverk in the past. Seems like a talent player.

Any interest in him now?

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{Ed002's Note - He would not be able to get a Work Permit easily.}


 

 

25 Jul 2021 15:23:46
Varane deal apparently moving forward circa 45M done by the end of the week.

Good window so far, if true.

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1.) 25 Jul 2021 16:04:00
Where you see that?! Anyone reliable?

{Ed014's Note - back of a fag packet


2.) 25 Jul 2021 16:12:00
Bouhafsi, about as good as it gets for French.


3.) 25 Jul 2021 16:22:59
Excellent signing on paper. Experience at the very top level and has great ability to both switch play and bring the ball out from the back.

However, he's very quick for a centre back but still strong and is good in the air, those are the areas where we needed an improvement on Lindelof and Varane brings that.


4.) 25 Jul 2021 17:09:26
If we can sign Varane we will have signed the best CB currently available. Players like Pau Torres or Kounde might go on to become better players but right now Varane is one of the top 5 best CB's in the world.

He ticks every box for what we want from a CB. Strong, quick, good in the air, can play out from the back, great reading of the game, world class ability and he has won everything there is to win in the game.

If signed we would have a CB as good as VvD and Dias.


5.) 25 Jul 2021 17:36:20
It remains to be seen if we do sign him and whether he can perform in the Premier League.

I don't know whether he would be available but I would prefer Laporte or Koulibaly. The latter is a huge guy who might be best suited to the physicality of english football.


6.) 25 Jul 2021 18:53:30
I'm not a fan of Koulibaly he seems like a player who relies heavily on his physical traits but isn't a good reader of the game.

Essentially he's a quicker Harry Maguire.


7.) 25 Jul 2021 19:31:10
Agree with Shappy on Koulibaly and in the past 2 seasons his injury record is a concern.

Varane has won everything with France and with Real Madrid.
That winning mentality which he can bring is invaluable.

{Ed0666's Note - very true varane is a serial winner shame his records gonna gonna get tainted now


8.) 25 Jul 2021 19:59:22
Gonna Gonna, is that why you are Ed0666 instead of Ed066. Just like more of everything?

{Ed033's Note - Maybe, it's because he's a Red and a Devil. :)


 

 

 

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18 Aug 2024 14:53:40
Seems as though DM, LCB, LB are going to be the priority now maybe a CM.

My ideal would be Hermoso for LCB, Chilwell (Loan to Buy), Ugarte (Loan to Buy/ Buy), De Jong.

We’d need to move on Lidelof or Maguire, McTominay, Eriksen and Sancho but financially doable if they can be sold.

Next summer address GK, Branthwaite, plus a world class player eg Vini Jr, Kavra.

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1.) 18 Aug 2024 15:59:31
This ain't fifa.


2.) 18 Aug 2024 16:37:23
Financially doable? That could tot up to around £200m in transfer fees. We've already spent about £160m. And that's not considering wages and whatever other fees that none of us have any clue about.


3.) 18 Aug 2024 17:17:29
Read it again or get better at maths.


4.) 18 Aug 2024 19:12:28
Tell that to Chelsea, Gregg.


5.) 19 Aug 2024 23:39:42
I wouldn't be holding Chelsea up as any sort of model to follow. They might actually be the first team in history to actually buy their way to relegation ??‍♂️?‍♂️?.


 

 

09 Aug 2024 08:13:41
We need a RB CB and DM.

Why aren’t we looking at Lutsharel Geertruida?

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1.) 09 Aug 2024 10:04:54
Cheeky bid for Gomez at Liverpool?


2.) 09 Aug 2024 10:17:39
On paper he'd be a sensible option for a RB replacement for AWB.

I'm assuming that either the scouts don't rate him or he'd be too expensive. After all he is Dutch which means he meets EtH's requirements ?.


3.) 09 Aug 2024 13:32:25
You happy with our attacking options? I wonder if we should focus on goal threat and develop a playing system which the defence can handle. don't feel like new individuals stops us conceding so many shots, whereas attackers can have a bigger individual impact.


4.) 09 Aug 2024 18:46:00
Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen Gomez have a good game. Unfortunately had to visit a field to entertain customers, so seen him live.

I just don’t see it beyond a good 4th choice.

On scramble hero aka Lutsharel Geertruida it makes pure sense. He also last year of contract. Plays 3x positions. Dutch.


 

 

03 Aug 2024 10:27:51
Conor Gallagher for CDM anyone?

I was impressed by him last year and it sure Ugarte is better.

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1.) 03 Aug 2024 10:47:11
Not for me.


2.) 03 Aug 2024 13:06:49
Conor Gallagher is rubbish. Even Southgate realised it.


3.) 03 Aug 2024 14:49:36
Headless chook.


4.) 03 Aug 2024 15:52:22
I watched him a few times last season.

Looked like headless chicken further up the field but thought he looked very competent in CDM.

I think he could be that Milner, Henderson, Fletcher, type player who makes the around them better by doing the dirty work.


5.) 03 Aug 2024 22:23:11
He’s not a CDM. Awful on the ball too.


6.) 03 Aug 2024 22:50:52
Not good enough. Like him for his work ethic and desire but for me is a McTomminay mark two.


7.) 04 Aug 2024 01:47:20
He's not a CDM. He's a number 8 who presses like a beast.


8.) 04 Aug 2024 06:56:56
The new Robbie Savage.


9.) 04 Aug 2024 08:40:45
He’s not a CDM. We’ve seen enough of central midfielders played at CDM over the past 10 years and it’s been a big problem.


 

 

04 Jul 2024 18:44:32
This overhaul would be amazing and improving beyond expectations:

GK: Onana, Heaton In + / Out - Bayinder?
RB: Dalot In +? / Out Wan Bissaka
CB: Martinez, Evans, Kambala, In +? Tobido, Branthwaite, De Ligt / Out - Varane, Lindelof? Maguire?
LB Shaw, Malacia, Amass In +? Äit Nouri / Out -.
DM Mainoo, Collyer. In +? Ugarte, Neves, Out - Casemiro? Amrabat.
CM Mainoo, McTominay. In +? Neves. Out: Eriksen.
LW: Rashford, Garnacho, In +? out - Sancho, Rashford?
CF: Hojlund, Rashford, In +? Zirkzee, Out - Martial.
RW: Amad, In +? Doue, Out -? Antony, Greenwood, Pellistri

Lots of potential outs to fund.

Resign Angel Gomes for depth and HG status. Resign Ambrabat as cover.
Or pay whatever to get Wharton.

And if Rashford leaves go for a worldie like Vini or Kavra… Boom top 2.

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1.) 04 Jul 2024 19:51:36
Why do I feel like I’ve just read an excel spreadsheet?


2.) 04 Jul 2024 20:35:08
???
Genuinely intrigued by how this summer could shape up. My brain is a spreadsheet.


3.) 04 Jul 2024 22:36:21
Utd have we got 3 rashfords? You're keeping 2 and maybe selling 1?. Getting rid of amrabat and then resigning him. I like the enthusiasm but that is just some random names in and out.


4.) 05 Jul 2024 01:13:37
Buying both Joao Neves and Ruben Neves? 4 LB’s and 6 CB’s?


5.) 05 Jul 2024 07:23:35
3 Rashfords would explain the inconsistencies we see! Different one of the triplets playing each time like some sort of Parent Trap.


6.) 05 Jul 2024 11:58:29
I appreciate the effort your but Wazza summed it up perfectly.


7.) 05 Jul 2024 21:58:36
Speed up lads. Thick as mince the.

Rashford plays multiples roles
Neves plays multiple roles
6 if you count Kambala, that’s about right consider Evans aged Af.
Rashford could leave.

The list shows coverage and rumoured ins and outs.
Hope this helps.
Next time I will make it clearer for the wollybacks.


8.) 06 Jul 2024 11:11:58
No Bruno or Mount?


9.) 06 Jul 2024 13:28:55
Genuinely forgot about Mount.

Bruno too, but think he’s off, hope I’m wrong.


 

 

04 Jul 2024 18:26:35
What if:

RB?
CB: Tobido, Branthwaite and De Ligt
DM: Ugarte
CM: Neves
RW: Doue
CF: Zirkzee

It would be one hell of a window…

21
Could
Be
On?

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1.) 04 Jul 2024 19:40:57
Todibo won't come, as Utd are banned from signing him.


2.) 04 Jul 2024 20:46:26
So tou think we might sign 8 players? Seriously?


3.) 04 Jul 2024 20:53:07
We will not be getting 3 CBs unless we are moving to 3 at the back. Remove Branthwaite and add a LB and that would be an excellent window and set us up for years to come.


4.) 04 Jul 2024 23:01:10
Also don't see Neves and Ugarte.

No idea who Doue is.


5.) 05 Jul 2024 05:09:56
Dodgey

very talented Rennes player. Extremely fast and skillful with the ball and can go past you in a flash and dribble around player with ease. A serious talent has to be up there with the best young talent around like nico williams. Probably on every top clubs list and a target. I only seen him play a couple of times on TV but really good. I think will be very pricey. Tranfermarkt says valued at 30 million but can't be right as he would be gone already.

I just hope we sign enough quality players for key positions and move players on. Seems every summer we struggle to move players who we think are going. I think we will get some surprise signings that people have not heard of.

On a positive note Martinez seems to be back to full fitness injury free and playing every game for Argentina and scored in copa.


6.) 05 Jul 2024 09:52:49
Sadly after forking out for our second most expensive signing only last season we're not going to be moving on from Antony barely 12 months later. Got another year of him yet and his output has to go through the roof. Doesn't seem likely.


7.) 05 Jul 2024 11:41:59
Spenno - Antony will have been with us 24 months by the time the season starts (next month) .


8.) 05 Jul 2024 12:00:08
Young promising player from rennes that we have never been linked with? It's like having Ronny back on the page again ?.


9.) 05 Jul 2024 12:10:00
More like barely 24 months Spenno.


10.) 05 Jul 2024 12:54:39
Blimey you're all right. Such has been Antony's impact I thought he'd been here for less time than he has!


11.) 05 Jul 2024 20:33:04
Don't see the hype in neves from benfica. Kobbie by far the better player.


12.) 06 Jul 2024 06:33:14
dodgey

You can call me ronny:) not sure who that is, he is not some unknown. we got linked to him before but doubt we will do anything.


 

 

 

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14 Aug 2024 19:21:12
Chilwell or Alonso seem likeliest before don’t really block Amass and would allow Shaw to be LCB cover and save a signing.

I like Hanko for CB cover and LB or Kerkez personally but see the Chilonso argument.

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10 Aug 2024 15:27:28
Got a feeling we go for De Jong next….

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04 Aug 2024 11:49:56
60 games a season could easily satisfy:
Yoro, De Ligt, Branthwaite, Martinez.
Yoro and Branthwaite can cover FB.

Chalobah ahead of De Ligt could make sense due to his versatility.

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24 Jul 2024 21:25:01
I see hanko as a good option.

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19 Jul 2024 18:19:00
Agree with all the points.
Only caveat is no one signed is EPL proven.
It could take a season to come together.

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05 Oct 2024 21:30:34
I think we’ll go for Antonee Robinson in Jan.
We can’t rely on Shaw.
Not even sure if Malacia was good either way.

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28 Sep 2024 09:03:56
Could be a great signing but he’s very young.
I’d be delighted if he has any impact this season or next it would be very impressive. But I’d be surprised

I have some reservations too, not sure if his stats are due his advanced physicality or if he is just that good.

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12 Sep 2024 21:16:51
Wow.
Does anyone for one minute think Garnacho’s public socials are run by him and not a team?
Ronnies post would have been an automatic like and once flagged as contentious it would have been unliked.

It’s a non story.

But Ronnie’s right EtH is a loser.

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01 Sep 2024 22:02:53
I trust INEOS to be ruthless.
RvN is ready
Tuchel is available
And they’ve already spoken to McKenna.
There’s options.

But we need to be realistic. This squad needs another 2x transfer windows before it’s ready to challenge. So no need to be reactive but when you remove the City game the last 20 games or so doesn’t show any sign of improvement or game plan.

EtH won’t be afforded time. My guess he’s got until the Nov international break to get it right.

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18 Aug 2024 17:17:29
Read it again or get better at maths.

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