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04 Jul 2024 18:10:21
Mr Edd002 a question please.
Is Tobido, De Ligt, Braithwaite possible if Maguire, Lindelof go along with Varane?
{Ed002's Note - All of interest but unlikely all will arrive.}
1.) 05 Jul 2024 00:18:59
DL and JB this window, hold One of those two for a season and Todibo next year, when we are in the CL and Nice are not.
2.) 06 Jul 2024 06:46:34
United have agreed that there will be no transfer between the clubs before September 2025, so Todibo will not be turning up any time soon.
18 Jun 2024 22:13:56
Rumours of Zirkzee and Xavi Simmons today.
What do you guys think of them?
1.) 18 Jun 2024 22:32:32
Not seen anything of Zirkzee other than an awful lot of reports, so figure his agent is in overdrive (and apparently stands to gain £12m personally so why not) .
I think if they want to go Dutch Frimpong excites me the most. Seen him in multiple positions, and a better right winger than anything we’ve got and it’s not even his best position!
2.) 19 Jun 2024 07:43:52
Ornstein spenno. Never normally writes anything until incredibly well sourced.
But I suspect Zirkzee is waiting for Milan. However, if they don't come in, we may get out man.
3.) 19 Jun 2024 08:38:16
Zirkee looked good for a very exciting Bologna side who earned champions league football. Will be a good option at a reasonable price but most rumours were of him going to Milan, however they are looking at a number of options.
Could we do a loan deal for Simons with option to buy next year, someone has said that a sale for PSG is more beneficial that way so could give us a good cheap option.
Likely all talk or at least the club looking at lots of players.
4.) 19 Jun 2024 10:55:17
Zirzkee, good enough to play for a europa league team which we are currently but also not so good that he is going to be demanding to start week in week out instead of Hojlund. Seems like an ideal signing to take the load of Hojlund.
5.) 19 Jun 2024 12:26:58
Will we even play with 1 centre forward?
We won last 3 games last season playing without a cf and using Bruno as a false 9.
It very much depends on the tactics applied.
6.) 19 Jun 2024 12:59:18
I think we should stay away from any player where the agent demands 12.5m for the transfer.
7.) 19 Jun 2024 13:33:30
DSG, zirkzee has the option to start at Bologna or start at Milan both in the CL, or he could come and be a rotation option at Utd in the EL.
Believe both Barcelona and RBL want a loan for Simons so could potentially be an option.
8.) 19 Jun 2024 14:58:51
Fuser he can get an extra 5m a year playing at united.
9.) 19 Jun 2024 14:59:21
Why kurtis?
10.) 19 Jun 2024 18:02:39
I think agent fees usually equate to about 5% commission Ken. Based on his market value at about €50m this would mean he's wanting a 25% commission.
I wouldn't want to pay such high commission for a player. I'm not even sure if this is allowed as I read FIFA might introduce caps.
I'm sure an Ed or someone else can correct my understanding if anything I've said is wrong.
{Ed002's Note - Rubbish.}
11.) 19 Jun 2024 19:37:16
I posted on the banter site tongue in cheek about Xavi simons. He’s statistically very similar to Bruno. He’s quicker and better at dribbling 1vs1 this why he’s been used on the wing at before he was at RB. Puts in a shift pressing, is press resistant and looks to pass forward. He would be a very good signing.
Zirkzee is a 6’ 4” opposite version of Højlund. Where Højlund likes it in behind and plays well as a target man, Zirkzee likes it into feet, he drops deeper and looks to use his technical ability to turn defenders and likes to be part of the build up play. He’s a lot like Martial in many ways, looking to drop a bit deeper and pull off to either side to overload. He would offer us a great deal of tactical flexibility.
12.) 19 Jun 2024 19:27:52
Thanks for the additional insight Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You are making stuff up.}
13.) 19 Jun 2024 21:54:36
Ken so you’ll pay Zirkzee 160-200k/ week? Italian clubs have the benefit of lower tax for their footballers.
14.) 20 Jun 2024 06:08:41
Kurtis, the agent worked on his transfer to Bologna, and you would assume made sure there was a clause in the contract that allows the player to move for a specific fee.
Now that several clubs feel that fee is a bargain and want to take advantage of that fee (that only exists because of the agent) why isn't the agent entitled to charge a premium in terms of their agents fee after their work will have saved the buying club money?
Also if you are to set an arbitrary fee for agents linked to a percentage of the transfer fee then surely it becomes counterintuitive for agents to negotiate a clause in player contracts that set a transfer fee at a specific amount. Ultimately meaning that the player moves for below market value and the agent gets a lower fee because of that.
The whole reason for agents to want these clauses in player contracts is to help facilitate moves which they can then make money from.
In terms of Zirkzee if he's worth 55-60m in the current market, and we can get him for a total cost of 40-45m but with 12m of that going to the agent rather than Bologna, why should we care where the money goes. Ultimately we've got a bargain and a very good player for below market value.
15.) 19 Jun 2024 23:44:34
Which part Ed? I asked to be corrected if my understanding was wrong.
The €12.5m was rumoured to be what the agent asked for. A player database values Zirkzee at €50m.
FIFA implemented regulation capping agent fees at 3% of player salaries and 10% of transfer fees, but I know this faced legal challenge in England.
Again, happy to stand corrected by your insight if you actually want to offer it.
{Ed002's Note - The 5%, the €12.5M, the value of the player.}
16.) 20 Jun 2024 10:36:39
Thanks Ed. I'll avoid the swirling social media rumours next time!
10 Mar 2024 15:52:08
United are apparently targeting a LB this summer, Luca Netz has been linked, 20 at Gladbach.
Is anyone else being watched or rumoured?
{Ed002's Note - Luca Netz (LWB) Borussia Monchengladbach's versatile defender has been discussed with Chelsea. Other English sides have sent scouts.
1.) 10 Mar 2024 19:21:38
What about Kieran Tierney? Eds was there ever any interest about him from Utd? Always impressed me with his commitment and skill.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
2.) 11 Mar 2024 12:12:10
We are potentially looking at a new LB due to Shaw and Malacia being injury prone. I'm not sure chasing Tierney, another injury prone player, is the best idea.
3.) 11 Mar 2024 13:00:59
Thanks ed002! Chelsea have a good scouting department. Any others under consideration for Man Utd?
Harry Amass is well thought of but very young. Would be good to see him get some minutes and see where he’s at.
{Ed002's Note - Interest in the very versatile Devyne Rensch will leave with ten Hag. Miguel Gutierrez is well liked but he is likely heading elsewhere.}
4.) 11 Mar 2024 20:31:15
Thanks tor yr replies Ed.
19 Jul 2023 15:38:22
Hi Eds.
United and Arsenal had been linked to Molde’s Mannsverk in the past. Seems like a talent player.
Any interest in him now?
{Ed002's Note - He would not be able to get a Work Permit easily.}
25 Jul 2021 15:23:46
Varane deal apparently moving forward circa 45M done by the end of the week.
Good window so far, if true.
1.) 25 Jul 2021 16:04:00
Where you see that?! Anyone reliable?
{Ed014's Note - back of a fag packet
2.) 25 Jul 2021 16:12:00
Bouhafsi, about as good as it gets for French.
3.) 25 Jul 2021 16:22:59
Excellent signing on paper. Experience at the very top level and has great ability to both switch play and bring the ball out from the back.
However, he's very quick for a centre back but still strong and is good in the air, those are the areas where we needed an improvement on Lindelof and Varane brings that.
4.) 25 Jul 2021 17:09:26
If we can sign Varane we will have signed the best CB currently available. Players like Pau Torres or Kounde might go on to become better players but right now Varane is one of the top 5 best CB's in the world.
He ticks every box for what we want from a CB. Strong, quick, good in the air, can play out from the back, great reading of the game, world class ability and he has won everything there is to win in the game.
If signed we would have a CB as good as VvD and Dias.
5.) 25 Jul 2021 17:36:20
It remains to be seen if we do sign him and whether he can perform in the Premier League.
I don't know whether he would be available but I would prefer Laporte or Koulibaly. The latter is a huge guy who might be best suited to the physicality of english football.
6.) 25 Jul 2021 18:53:30
I'm not a fan of Koulibaly he seems like a player who relies heavily on his physical traits but isn't a good reader of the game.
Essentially he's a quicker Harry Maguire.
7.) 25 Jul 2021 19:31:10
Agree with Shappy on Koulibaly and in the past 2 seasons his injury record is a concern.
Varane has won everything with France and with Real Madrid.
That winning mentality which he can bring is invaluable.
{Ed0666's Note - very true varane is a serial winner shame his records gonna gonna get tainted now
8.) 25 Jul 2021 19:59:22
Gonna Gonna, is that why you are Ed0666 instead of Ed066. Just like more of everything?
{Ed033's Note - Maybe, it's because he's a Red and a Devil. :)
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04 Jul 2024 18:44:32
This overhaul would be amazing and improving beyond expectations:
GK: Onana, Heaton In + / Out - Bayinder?
RB: Dalot In +? / Out Wan Bissaka
CB: Martinez, Evans, Kambala, In +? Tobido, Branthwaite, De Ligt / Out - Varane, Lindelof? Maguire?
LB Shaw, Malacia, Amass In +? Äit Nouri / Out -.
DM Mainoo, Collyer. In +? Ugarte, Neves, Out - Casemiro? Amrabat.
CM Mainoo, McTominay. In +? Neves. Out: Eriksen.
LW: Rashford, Garnacho, In +? out - Sancho, Rashford?
CF: Hojlund, Rashford, In +? Zirkzee, Out - Martial.
RW: Amad, In +? Doue, Out -? Antony, Greenwood, Pellistri
Lots of potential outs to fund.
Resign Angel Gomes for depth and HG status. Resign Ambrabat as cover.
Or pay whatever to get Wharton.
And if Rashford leaves go for a worldie like Vini or Kavra… Boom top 2.
1.) 04 Jul 2024 19:51:36
Why do I feel like I’ve just read an excel spreadsheet?
2.) 04 Jul 2024 20:35:08
???
Genuinely intrigued by how this summer could shape up. My brain is a spreadsheet.
3.) 04 Jul 2024 22:36:21
Utd have we got 3 rashfords? You're keeping 2 and maybe selling 1?. Getting rid of amrabat and then resigning him. I like the enthusiasm but that is just some random names in and out.
4.) 05 Jul 2024 01:13:37
Buying both Joao Neves and Ruben Neves? 4 LB’s and 6 CB’s?
5.) 05 Jul 2024 07:23:35
3 Rashfords would explain the inconsistencies we see! Different one of the triplets playing each time like some sort of Parent Trap.
6.) 05 Jul 2024 11:58:29
I appreciate the effort your but Wazza summed it up perfectly.
7.) 05 Jul 2024 21:58:36
Speed up lads. Thick as mince the.
Rashford plays multiples roles
Neves plays multiple roles
6 if you count Kambala, that’s about right consider Evans aged Af.
Rashford could leave.
The list shows coverage and rumoured ins and outs.
Hope this helps.
Next time I will make it clearer for the wollybacks.
8.) 06 Jul 2024 11:11:58
No Bruno or Mount?
9.) 06 Jul 2024 13:28:55
Genuinely forgot about Mount.
Bruno too, but think he’s off, hope I’m wrong.
04 Jul 2024 18:26:35
What if:
RB?
CB: Tobido, Branthwaite and De Ligt
DM: Ugarte
CM: Neves
RW: Doue
CF: Zirkzee
It would be one hell of a window…
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1.) 04 Jul 2024 19:40:57
Todibo won't come, as Utd are banned from signing him.
2.) 04 Jul 2024 20:46:26
So tou think we might sign 8 players? Seriously?
3.) 04 Jul 2024 20:53:07
We will not be getting 3 CBs unless we are moving to 3 at the back. Remove Branthwaite and add a LB and that would be an excellent window and set us up for years to come.
4.) 04 Jul 2024 23:01:10
Also don't see Neves and Ugarte.
No idea who Doue is.
5.) 05 Jul 2024 05:09:56
Dodgey
very talented Rennes player. Extremely fast and skillful with the ball and can go past you in a flash and dribble around player with ease. A serious talent has to be up there with the best young talent around like nico williams. Probably on every top clubs list and a target. I only seen him play a couple of times on TV but really good. I think will be very pricey. Tranfermarkt says valued at 30 million but can't be right as he would be gone already.
I just hope we sign enough quality players for key positions and move players on. Seems every summer we struggle to move players who we think are going. I think we will get some surprise signings that people have not heard of.
On a positive note Martinez seems to be back to full fitness injury free and playing every game for Argentina and scored in copa.
6.) 05 Jul 2024 09:52:49
Sadly after forking out for our second most expensive signing only last season we're not going to be moving on from Antony barely 12 months later. Got another year of him yet and his output has to go through the roof. Doesn't seem likely.
7.) 05 Jul 2024 11:41:59
Spenno - Antony will have been with us 24 months by the time the season starts (next month) .
8.) 05 Jul 2024 12:00:08
Young promising player from rennes that we have never been linked with? It's like having Ronny back on the page again ?.
9.) 05 Jul 2024 12:10:00
More like barely 24 months Spenno.
10.) 05 Jul 2024 12:54:39
Blimey you're all right. Such has been Antony's impact I thought he'd been here for less time than he has!
11.) 05 Jul 2024 20:33:04
Don't see the hype in neves from benfica. Kobbie by far the better player.
12.) 06 Jul 2024 06:33:14
dodgey
You can call me ronny:) not sure who that is, he is not some unknown. we got linked to him before but doubt we will do anything.
04 Jun 2024 16:44:37
Who’s for a Portuguese summer? A total not happening but we’ve got some links and I’d think this would be kinda of funny.
GK: Costa - not sure he’s better than Onana but there’s links for a long time.
RCB: Silva - seems the top target now Scalvini is injured.
LCB: Ignacio - I’m pretty sure Utd are briefing Ignacio release clause to get the Branthwaite price down but a legitimate alternative.
DM: Paulinha - would be great.
CM: Neves - Bid rejected briefing is to appease fans. I think this and Silva are on.
CF: João Felix - Greenwood swap.
I’d happily have Cancelo too.
1.) 04 Jun 2024 17:59:23
Some top players there UR.
Fingers crossed we get the 2 we are really looking for.
2.) 04 Jun 2024 20:45:13
Some good calls there Utd Road, I watched quite a few Benfica matches last season knowing how strongly we were linked with Silva and Neves.
Really hope we sign Antonio Silva, think he is a superb prospect and would be my No 1 choice for the summer, will be expensive but worth it.
He seems to have all the qualities needed to be a top centre back, his main attribute being his positional sense, he is always in the right place at the right time.
You mention Paulinha, guessing you are referring to Joao Palhinha of Fulham, excellent player, but are we not supposedly only going for players under 25 and he is 28.
Joao Neves, again I think he would be an excellent signing, a bit younger than Silva at 19 but has already been voted midfield player of the month 5 times in Primeira Liga. I know Shappy thinks that him and Kobbie are too young to play together, but I think they are both significant talents and would be a perfect partnership for quite a few years.
Have to say my dream summer would be Silva, Neves and Ronald Araujo from Barcelona at centre back. That would cover the centre back and central midfield positions with real quality and longevity as well.
Don't believe it will happen but hey, we all have our dreams.
3.) 04 Jun 2024 22:01:42
Well Erik reckons three signings transforms the team. I'd personally improve the spine from CB - CM - CF with three starters. I know we need RW/ LB/ ballboy and everything inbetween but reckon any from the above would fit the bill, even though I feel it'll be too costly. But we don't know the budget or who will leave, and we signed Pogba in an 'off' season out of the CL so who knows.
4.) 04 Jun 2024 22:51:47
Spenno, I think that the reality is that without significant outgoings then three signings are about what we can make. Firstly due to the cost, with PSR breathing down our necks we don't have the same freedom to spend like we have in previous years. Secondly, without players leaving then we won't have space for players to come in.
From what I can gather the club are looking at a CB, CM and a CF as the priority to replace Varane/ Evans, Amrabat and Martial who are all leaving the club this summer.
Without further sales we don't have space or money to bring other players in.
We'd like to sign Olise for the RW, but we currently have Sancho, Greenwood, Antony, Amad and Pellistri on the books. At least 2 maybe 3 or even 4 of them need to leave to free up the funds and make space for Eriksen.
Likewise one of Lindelof and/ or Maguire will need to leave to create the funds/ space for a second CB signing.
While the same can be said of McTominay, Eriksen, Casemiro and Hannibal. At least two of them will need to go for us to be able to sign a second midfielder.
The real tricky area though might be at fullback. With Shaw and Malacia's injury records we need a more reliable LB, yet we probably won't be able to sell either Shaw or Malacia given their injuries. While RB will depend on AWB going, yet there is a real lack of quality options at RB, with the few good options being very expensive. While Dalot's form this year probably means any RB signed would be a backup/ squad player.
5.) 05 Jun 2024 00:27:53
I’d love Frimpong to come in. Predominantly RB but he’s efficient anywhere on that side including up front and even CB.
6.) 05 Jun 2024 16:06:04
Frimpong at cb? Alongside martinez? It would be like a scene from Charlie and chocolate factory or wizard of oz with all the little people??.
7.) 05 Jun 2024 16:08:22
The home window not open for 10 days the intl window opens 1st July so I'm sure we will have a plan to move a few player's on and bring some in.
04 Jul 2022 22:13:46
Where do we expect Declan Rice to land? Clearly not signing a new deal, Utds first choice DM but no links. Chelsea seem to have moved on?
I’d be delighted if he’s in anyway an option.
1.) 04 Jul 2022 22:49:14
In the London Stadium on August 7th.
2.) 05 Jul 2022 09:23:07
He'll stay at West Ham this season, next summer he might be available for a slightly more "reasonable" fee compared to the 150m West Ham are demanding this summer.
At which point Chelsea, Liverpool, City and ourselves are all likely to show varying degrees of interest.
3.) 05 Jul 2022 10:05:22
There you go it's official?♂️.
4.) 05 Jul 2022 13:35:51
To be fair, I think Shappy has got that pretty bang on Ken.
5.) 05 Jul 2022 15:50:16
2 Tom's do you think yeah?
City will try to replace Philips with rice so quickly for 100m plus?
Liverpool will try to replace fabhino with rice? For 100m plus
I don't think either will be in for him.
Why would his price fall is he going to have abad season?
I don't think it's spot on its a guess. Nowt wrong with a guess but best not to write it as a statement of fact then.
04 Jul 2022 22:11:04
I was looking forward to seeing Ronaldo under EtH and wouldn’t be surprised to see this happening still.
I can see the argument that Ronnie can be a hindrance to playing styles but overall he contributes far more than he takes away.
We’re very light on options up top and all the best CF are already signed, realistically Ronnie knows this and is playing his hand.
He’s known since March UCL was not happening and unless ETH expectations scared the sh! t out of him, why is this coming out now?
If he flushes out an offer from a UCL club he’s happy and if Utd accelerate spending he’ll be happy to take credit it he can’t find a club.
I would not be surprised at all to see him wearing the captain’s arm band on the first game of the season.
1.) 04 Jul 2022 23:08:16
Ronaldo is one of the best strikers around. Do you see Lewi or Haaland or mpbape running back helping their defence? If he goes and we don't replace him with an excellent striker, we're struggling to be in top 6 because Martial and Rashford are not going to cut it.
2.) 05 Jul 2022 02:37:42
It’s not really about him running back and helping the defence AAA, it’s about him joining in the press on the ball and being in the correct positions, allowing team mates to take up their correct position. Last season on a number of occasions this didn’t happen, including in almost every big game. It would be silly to ignore the downfalls of having a 37 year old Ronaldo in the team as it would be silly to ignore all of the positives. It’s a conundrum, but as he’s leaving after this season anyway I wouldn’t be too bothered if he left and we started the full rebuild now, otherwise next summer we have the same issue.
24 Jul 2024 21:25:01
I see hanko as a good option.
19 Jul 2024 18:19:00
Agree with all the points.
Only caveat is no one signed is EPL proven.
It could take a season to come together.
13 Jul 2024 10:37:57
I like the guy but not sure he was good enough to be honest.
Did a good job when called upon but for me didn’t look as good as Axel or Mengi, who both weren’t good enough when at Utd.
Good luck to him.
08 Jul 2024 23:07:25
Bring Garner and Angel back as Midfield cover. Would be an upgrade on Eriksen and Amrabat. They’d get 30+ appearances if fit and HG and academy graduates.
Same argument for Welbeck.
29 Jun 2024 13:55:45
Ugarte would be a good signing.
24 Jul 2024 21:57:28
I think there’s a player in Antony.
Nani vibes.
{Ed025's Note - more nanny than Nani imo UR..
24 Jul 2024 17:15:59
Chelsea’s squad reads like an abandoned FM save.
15 Jul 2024 21:11:25
Southgate made too many accommodations.
He dropped Rashford with no tested back up.
Failed to call up a back up LB to an unfit Shaw.
Wrong formation.
Should have played a DM2xCM and a true LF.
Dunk etc over Tomori and others adds to his mistakes.
Bad selection and preparation.
13 Jul 2024 10:51:31
Yoro, MdL, Branthwaite, Martinez would be a good balance of CBs. Evans as the 5th.
Maguire, Lindelof and Varane out.
I prefer Zirkzee over Toney as he offers a different profile. Shappy is correct on the Firmino comparison. Seems we’re linked with Tony still. Hojlund, Zirkzee and Tony would be great but only if we plan to play 2 up top.
Xavi Simons makes no sense unless Bruno is going.
I’d give Sancho another chance if we can move on Antony. Sancho, Amad, Rashford, Garnacho, Zirkzee and Hojlund is a quality six to pick from.
Replacing Casemiro with Ugarte is a good move. I think Tom Collyer is going to replace Amrabat, we need an Eriksen replacement.
I’m very encouraged by our strategy this summer, acting like a top club for a change.
06 Jul 2024 13:28:55
Genuinely forgot about Mount.
Bruno too, but think he’s off, hope I’m wrong.