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14 Jul 2021 11:30:29
Rumours are cooling on Camavinga.
Apparently prefers a move to Spain or PSG (as Ed002 has said) .

Utd also looking to add a third signing after Varane.

I hope this leads to Saul.

Saul, Varane and Sancho would be a huge upgrade.

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1.) 14 Jul 2021 12:24:42
Well with Heaton and Sancho agreed, and with Varane or at least one CB looking very likely that gives us three signings.

I'd imagine a fourth will very much depend on out goings and I doubt it'll be a hugely expensive signing, probably around the 20-35m price range after spending 70m on Sancho and around 50m on a CB.

Could be a RB, or a CM.


2.) 14 Jul 2021 12:28:11
Heaton doesn't count.


3.) 14 Jul 2021 12:45:32
Heaton is probably a third choice GK. He is likely to never make a first team appearance at 35 similar to Lee Grant.
So I don't count him as a signing.


4.) 14 Jul 2021 14:08:41
Surely the price range of any potential third signing depends on outgoings?

Let's say 70m ish on Sancho and 50m ish on a CB. £120m looks like quite a lot, but if we were to sell, for example: DDG, Lingard, Bailly/ Lindelof, Dalot, Perreira and hopefully Jones, that could easily be 70-100m in sales, maybe even more if we're lucky.

Spending another 50-60m on a CDM type doesn't seem so unrealistic after that. Especially if we then move on Pogba, Fred or Donny.


5.) 14 Jul 2021 14:41:58
Shappy I agree that 20-35 m seems a good call but get the feeling it may well be that sort of figure to extend pp contract- do hope i'm wrong though.


6.) 14 Jul 2021 17:47:07
Of course Heaton counts, did Grant or Romero not count? Did Telles not count?

Just because a player is signed for a squad role that doesn't mean they don't count.

Also I wouldn't be surprised to see one of DDG or Henderson leave this summer, which would make Heaton our No.2 keeper. He might play more often than you think.

Thorne, I don't think it works like that. Maybe on FIFA you can sell players to bolster your transfer kitty. But in the real world both of the signings of Sancho and any CB we sign will have been calculated on a number of outgoings and a certain about of income.

With Varane or a similar 50m signing at CB that would bring our spending to 123m not including the substantial "agents" fees which for Sancho alone is rumoured to be in the region of 40m.

The club has never really spent more than 150m in one window, regardless of how much they receive from outgoing transfers.

Which means to match our biggest summer spend we would be looking at around 25-30m on any additional signings.

Considering all the financial pressures all clubs are under currently I highly doubt we'll see more than 150-160m in total spent.


7.) 14 Jul 2021 20:58:26
Isn't Saul off to Barcelona now.


8.) 15 Jul 2021 08:01:47
Grim that's what I'm hearing. With Greasyman going the other way apparently.


9.) 15 Jul 2021 08:59:49
I think the Greizmann/ Saul swap actually makes a lot of sense.

Barcelona have signed Depay and Aguero so have less of a need for Greizmann who has never quite fit in to that Barcelona side. While with Pjanic presumably on his way out and Busquests not getting any younger, a player like Saul makes a lot of sense for them.

Atletico on the other hands want to get Saul's large long term contract off the wage bill and are in need of a forward. Griezmann having previously been there ticks all the boxes with the comfort of knowing that he will be a success as he previously was.


 

 

13 Jul 2021 10:51:29
Any truth in James to Leeds?

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{Ed002's Note - Daniel James (LW/RW) may be lucky and get a loan. Leeds have asked for a loan with an option to buy. Will be available.}


1.) 13 Jul 2021 12:30:20
Sensible move for him. Looks like the club are betting on Diallo being a decent option of the bench. Atleast it ensures he gets some game time.


2.) 13 Jul 2021 12:46:51
I think James will improve under Bielsa who I think is an excellent manager.


3.) 13 Jul 2021 16:20:15
I like Dan James, he has the right attitude and can be a useful player. The issue is his game currently isn't diverse enough to play every week for a side expected to challenge for honours.

Rashford, Sancho, Martial and Greenwood will all be ahead of him. While Amad and Pellistri will soon be challenging, along with Elanga and Shoretire.


4.) 13 Jul 2021 16:57:38
He is still young and with a proper coach should improve a lot. I would loan but not with option to buy but option of first refusal if we later decide to sell.


5.) 13 Jul 2021 17:57:30
James is a winger with zero moves. Amad has far more potential.


6.) 13 Jul 2021 23:17:47
We can't just keep buying players someone has to go to make room for amad and sancho. Looks like Jesse and James will be the firsts that leave to make space.
If we sign a rb and a cb you will probably see tuanzebe and Dale make way while Williams will go on loan i'd imagine.
The squad is pretty much set then with the 2 real question marks over the will he stay or go pogba and keeper selection.
If he goes we will sign someone to replace him i guess.


7.) 13 Jul 2021 23:22:28
‘His game isn’t diverse enough’ is a polite way of saying he isn’t good enough Shappy, nothing about him suggests he ever will be. Good lad, works hard, puts the effort in defensively, as you say is not and will never be good enough for a team challenging for titles.

The media and pundit love in for him is unbelievable in my opinion, at the Euro’s he was being talked about like he had a stormer every game, whereas he just ran fast with no end product as always.


8.) 14 Jul 2021 08:04:11
Dan was excellent in the Turkey game, he just needs to develop his end product.


9.) 14 Jul 2021 12:38:08
GDS, he has explosive pace which is a huge asset, he also has a great attitude, works hard and is keen to learn and develop.

If he can develop his all round game so he is less of a one trick pony then he could be a very good player.

I don't think he has world class ability or potential. However, not everyone of our players needs to be world class. All our success over the past 30 years has been underpinned by hard working talented squad players who are able to come in a do a job but are content enough to not start every game.

I think if James can develop his game he could become one of those players. They are vital and rarely get the credit they deserve, but few teams win things without a few of them in the squad.


 

 

16 May 2021 12:03:12
Hey Ed
Any chance of an update regarding out goings at Utd?

Grant and Romero are out frees and Jones to the championship seems expected but not clear on De Gea, Axel, Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Dalot, Andreas and where they could be off to?

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{Ed002's Note - It will be pretty much the same as last time I explained.}


1.) 18 May 2021 15:00:42
Heard Madrid are interested in Big Phil Jones as since Bale went to Spurs, the medical staff at Real are out of practice dealing with injuries.
Apparently Big Phil has been house hunting in the area in preparation of the big move. I know I will not be alone in wishing him all the best.


 

 

03 May 2021 12:12:11
Are there any rumours of the Glazers even considering selling up?

And is there anyone in the frame to buy the club?

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1.) 03 May 2021 13:00:11
I'll check down the back of the sofa and see if I can scrape together a spare 4bn😂.

{Ed014's Note - your word count on this site can’t be far off 4 billion Shappy 😉


2.) 04 May 2021 08:48:47
Bill Gates' Mrs, I hear she's coming into money.


3.) 04 May 2021 19:31:28
Wildest of unfounded rumours:

What if SAF meeting with PSG owners was related to a possible takeover?


4.) 05 May 2021 16:40:52
He just wanted to buy a Saudi horse.


5.) 05 May 2021 20:16:07
Or get a free drink at the bar.


 

 

16 Feb 2021 22:11:49
Hi Ed
Is there any plans for a new contract for OGS or do the club have a successor in mind.
Thanks
Alex.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any decision being made.}


1.) 17 Feb 2021 10:00:49
The club tend to not make decisions like that until the end of the season. In Ole's favour there is no obvious replacement, all the established managers look quite settled, leaving only an up and coming manager where you are taking a chance.


2.) 17 Feb 2021 09:49:24
Well the club will not pay to release a manager from their current contract so probably best looking at who is currently unemployed.

Fortunately Big Sam has a job now, so we could be looking at Tony Pulis, Nigel Pearson or Eddie Howe. However, if Gareth Southgate leaves the England job after the impending Euro's then expect his name to be in the frame.


3.) 17 Feb 2021 14:42:57
Shappy so more of the same I guess. We can't be so generous of letting everyone have a crack at the job.


4.) 17 Feb 2021 18:51:23
usual candidates are bound to be mentioned in the tabloids. wonder if naglesman could be in the mix.


 

 

 

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14 Jul 2021 11:40:15
When do we think Sancho will be announced?

New kit launch tomorrow? Seems logical to be then or Friday.

Going to be a Sanchez level production imo.

Big signal to sponsors ahead of new training deal.

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1.) 14 Jul 2021 11:46:40
Hopefully it isn't Sanchez level production on the pitch from Sancho.


2.) 14 Jul 2021 12:39:40
I've heard Sancho can't play the piano but is an awesome tambourine player🤣.


3.) 14 Jul 2021 13:25:46
I’d have though he was more of a triangle man myself shappy.


4.) 14 Jul 2021 18:54:09
By loud haler.


 

 

12 Jul 2021 11:49:30
Feel for the Utd lads today.

Maguire's penalty was majestic.
Shaw with the goal.

And then Rashford and Sancho
I don't understand the logic at all and they where set up to fail.

If Sterling or Grealish weren't taking penalties they should have come off with at least 5 mins of play left.

For as much praise Southgate merits he should not be immune to criticism.

He completely failed the players and the game management.

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1.) 12 Jul 2021 12:30:21
Completely failed the players, a bit harsh. England were a a couple of penalties away from winning a tournament for the first time in 55 years.
Its easy for the armchair managers to sit back and criticise after the fact, how does being on the pitch for 5 minutes improve your chance of converting a penalty as apposed to 1 minute, Belotti missed and he was on the pitch for 30 minutes.


2.) 12 Jul 2021 13:06:40
I’ve just replied to Leahy up the page, I think the safety first approach was unhelpful in the final particularly after we had scored. And I don’t believe for one minute that Southgate o picked the penalty takers, it’s great he’s taking responsibility but did he really pick Saka to take one? I very much doubt it.


3.) 12 Jul 2021 13:48:40
AJH

Grealish said he wanted to take one, who could overrule that?


4.) 12 Jul 2021 14:05:22
Of course he picked saka to take one ajh. Who else do you think picked him?


5.) 12 Jul 2021 15:25:46
Well that just defies logic. Why on Earth would he have asked Saka ahead of Sterling or Grealish? Bizarre that he did that.


6.) 12 Jul 2021 15:31:48
Yeah its an odd one. Grealish has come out today and said he wanted to take one and said so but he said the manager made the choices.
1 more reason to dislike grealish. He should be keeping his moth shut and not pointing fingers just to get himself off the hook. Nobody will make a silk purse out of that sows ear. He is too self absorbed and stupid.


7.) 12 Jul 2021 17:04:02
Surely there isn't much to debate about the choices for the penalties.

Southgate wrote down on a piece of paper the names and the order while the players were still playing.

He has since come out and said he made the choices based off of their performances during practice sessions.

Which is fair enough, if Grealish scored 5 out of 8 pens in practice but Saka scored 8 out of 8, then who'd you put your money on without hindsight?

The lesson that has surely been learned now though is that how you perform on the security and pressure free environment of the training ground is in no way a direct comparison for how you will perform in the pressure cooker environment of a major international final with millions of people world wide watching you.

If you're a professional footballer you can score from 12 yards. However, taking penalties just as saving them is 90% attitude and 10% skill. Having the cojones to step up and not feel the pressure, to be the coolest man in the ground, and to just do what you need to.


8.) 12 Jul 2021 17:37:59
I would not have put Maguire down as one of my five but what a penalty that was.


9.) 12 Jul 2021 21:22:44
Best of the lot oakbark.


10.) 13 Jul 2021 09:00:34
It’s a bit naive basing penalties just on practice. Pressure of the situation must also be taken into account, that has to be a consideration by the manager. It looks like Southgate went to both Grealish and Saka, then decided Saka. The fifth pen is likely to be vital, so Southgate was utterly wrong in choosing a 19 year old kid who had never taken a pen in earnest. Grealish has a confidence, a swagger about him which I think would have made a difference and the decision was one of a few strange ones from Southgate.


11.) 13 Jul 2021 09:06:09
Oakbark, I think that just proves the point that Southgate was basing it on something he has seen from the players in training.

Has Maguire ever taken a penalty? Did anyone feel confident that Maguire would score as he walked up to take England's second penalty, especially with players like Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Sterling, Saka and even Philips who does take the occasional set-piece yet to step up.

Yet Maguire stepped up and smashed the ball home with the confidence and in the cold clinical way you'd expect from a 30+ goals a season striker, not a centre back.

Clearly that was something Southgate must have seen on the training ground. But like I said, the training ground does not recreate the high pressure environment that a major final does.


12.) 13 Jul 2021 09:44:50
To be fair Ken, grealish was called out for not being brave enough to take a pen, he says he wanted to take one, he either keeps quiet and is seen as a bit cowardly for not taking one and leaving it to young players if he says nothing but digging out the manager if he says the truth .
He says he wanted to take one and the manager chose others instead.


 

 

14 Jun 2021 19:13:26
Any chance of Saul?
&
Pogba to Juventus?

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14 Jun 2021 12:06:49
Bit off topic but does anyone think gambling should be barred from advertising on sports, specifically football?

A bit like tobacco in the 90s?

I don't gamble unless I'm at the races, but I find the advertising too much and it almost seems like preying on an addiction?

Fully appreciate the revenue it generates but all are based in off shore tax havens and more to the point, I think it's moral and social topic that is unsaid.

Not too mention the sky bet and sky relationship being a huge conflict of interest.

More than anything I wanted to check in on other people's veiws on this?

(Rather than preach)

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{Ed033's Note - People who are addicted to gambling might look into putting the money into any of the top Crypto Tokens, that way they at least won't lose it all?


1.) 14 Jun 2021 13:25:22
There is a reason there is a betting ship on most street corners.
Maybe one of the most destructive addictions and vices if it gets it off control.
Its a tough one utd road. I think its up to each and every individual to not get in too deep.
Education is what's missing.


2.) 14 Jun 2021 13:27:54
The government is currently consulting on introducing legislation to ban advertising in sport, I imagine a lot of lobbying will be going on behind the scenes.


3.) 14 Jun 2021 13:56:04
All adverts now contain information about responsible gambling and online accounts have limits and so many of the adverts tell you about how to set these as well. It is a tough one but the same as alcohol it is down to an individual person not to get in too deep. I think addicted gamblers would probably gamble whether there was advertising or not though.


4.) 14 Jun 2021 17:13:05
It will boil down to do the lads who like a flutter a few pints at the pub and a game of footy make up a large proportion of our current government's voters. If so they will not find a need to legislate against this.


5.) 14 Jun 2021 17:32:07
Same way fat kids still eat chocolate.


6.) 14 Jun 2021 19:11:20
Ta all, appreciate the discussion.

The one thing I would add on reflection is the aspect of new customer acquisition and preventing that.


7.) 14 Jun 2021 19:16:47
I’ve never understood gambling, I can see how it easily becomes an addiction. I have a friend who got himself in a right mess and despite him being banned from all bookies they were still happy to take his money. I think there is far too much advertising and the Sky Bet and Sky relationship is very odd.


8.) 14 Jun 2021 19:19:59
Anyone saying its down to the individual is missing the point imo.

Marketing works! There's a reason companies have such huge marketing budgets.

I'm not saying gambling should be banned, but by allowing it to be advertised at football games, means clubs and associations endorse it, that's the point of associating your product with big brands, it at least implies endorsement.

Given that football is a family event, as opposed to advertising at say a nightclub which is an adult's event, means impressionable kids are having gambling shoved down their throats and being given the impression that their favourite clubs endorse it.

There is nothing positive about this scenario whatsoever.

I'd absolutely ban it.


9.) 14 Jun 2021 23:47:03
I take your point red D .
Would you ban alcohol at all grounds too?
Its a tough one to know where to draw the line.


10.) 15 Jun 2021 01:02:51
RedD,

Only a very small minority of people that gamble have gambling problems, for the majority it is a fun activity, I would class if as a hobby, I give myself an amount I can afford each month and gamble that, it’s something i enjoy and has never become a problem.

It is definitely an interesting one, to say the government won’t do anything about it when they have already cut the max stake on the machines and forced a large number of bookies to close is a little short sighted.

There are discussions all the time about what they will do, there are laws now about the amount of advertising that has to be taken up with responsible gambling information. Gambling will never be banned but they have certainly looked at how they can help people who get themselves in trouble. It is a vice like many others, if kept under control it is not a problem at all.

I have quite a vested interest in this so it is something I enjoy discussing and hearing how others feel.


11.) 15 Jun 2021 09:31:40
I'd ban the advertising of alcohol, gambling, sweets and sugary drinks, cigarettes, e-cigs, at any family event or any child based entertainment, including kids TV shows.

If you want to know why, watch a documentary called "the century of the self", it's free on youtube, and should be required watching for everyone.

It shows how smart psychologists used the concept of war time propaganda and applied it to business, rebranded or as marketing, and gives some fantastic examples of how it works and the damage it has done.

Just watch the first 15 mins and look at the example of smoking. Cigarette companies realised that it was pretty much just men who smoked, and a smart psychologist said he could get women smoking and double their potential market.

He used debutants at some big American parade, ties the concept of smoking to an individuals freedom, and managed to get women to take up smoking over night.

How many deaths is that one trick responsible for?

It's all very well to say that people should be able to make choices, but that requires education, and we don't educate the masses enough to make informed choices, we educate them just enough to ensure they feel like they make choices but remain completely manipulatable.

Allowing children to be exposed to this is actually quite sick really.


 

 

23 May 2021 21:31:46
Feel bad going in on youth player but I've been really unimpressed with Brandon Williams. Not sure if it's him playing RB over LB but he seems to be going backwards.

Thought Axel looked ok today, Shoretire looked tidy and Hannibal looked like he could do something next season.

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1.) 23 May 2021 22:20:28
Been a tough season for Brandon, I personally think he will go on loan/ permanent somewhere in the summer. A few on here critical about his lack of minutes, but we don’t see him every day in training and unfortunately when he’s been on the pitch he’s not been great.


2.) 24 May 2021 07:30:24
Brandon has hardly played, so we cannot judge his progress on 1 or 2 games here and there.
Hassenhutl is interested to take him loan. I think that's the best possible move for him.


3.) 24 May 2021 07:44:50
This is the issue with young players, they find it harder to go 3 weeks without a match to then be thrown in and perform to the best of their ability. Maintaining that consistency without playing much. It's something a lot of players struggle with but especially inexperienced ones.

Brandon did well last season with a run of games. This season playing once a month often in a much changed line up has meant he has struggled for form.

This is why it's important to loan out promising youth players who aren't going to be playing every week. They need game time, if they aren't going to be starting at least once every three games along with a couple of sub appearances then get them out on loan.

We saw it with Garner, a few appearances here and there but never really imposed himself on the side. Good in moments but not whole games. Sent out on loan and plays every week and suddenly looks like one of the most promising players in the Championship. Getting better and better by the week.


4.) 24 May 2021 08:41:01
Who was the last player that we sent out on loan and he came back to us better besides Henderson? We simply have no path for them once they go out. Brandon goes out and comes back but will he play till the time AWB is there?


5.) 24 May 2021 08:58:23
Yh the loan system can be quite useful for developing young players but its quite a difficult thing to get right in terms of picking the right club and ensuring they get game time.

We've seen the likes of janujaz, fosu mensah, tuanzebe, periera all loaned out and they still didn't make it, very few academy players do make it.

On the other hand the likes of rashford and greenwood have forced themselves into the team which proves if you are good enough you will make it at the club.

Williams is in the former category in my opinion and should be sold in the summer.


6.) 24 May 2021 09:42:28
I agree. he has gone backwards. I know he's been short of playing time but he couldn't even get the basics right in passing a ball to his own team mates yesterday. He got caught with the ball so many times holding on to it far to long and he was constantly kept running down blind alleys instead of just playing it simple. I hope i am wrong but i cannot see Brandon Williams forcing his way in to this team, definitely needs to go out on loan and take it from there. I heard that Norwich were interested, that would be a a good move as Norwich play some good tidy football.


7.) 24 May 2021 09:48:49
The loan system isn't perfect, and that is why for me we have needed a proper DoF. Someone who can oversee BOTH the first team and the academy and can make transfer decisions based around not just the players in the first team but the players coming up through the academy.

Someone who can plot a pathway for the youth into the first team.

Our problem seems to be that the club is reactive and not proactive. We don't have plans for the players we have either in the first team squad or the academy.

Case in point giving DDG a long term contract with Henderson pushing to be involved in the first team. That now means we have DDG on a long term contract with neither keeper happy to not be first choice, meaning the club will now have to react and sell one. Just poor future planning, or arguably no future planning.


8.) 24 May 2021 09:58:59
I think Williams done well last year based on the team he was playing in. This season I think the team has stepped up a level and that is the reason why Williams is not getting as much game time and not looking great when he does get game time which poses the question whether he is good enough. Personally I don't think he is. Love his desire and commitment and that he is a local lad but sometimes you have to be brutally honest and just except he won't make it at United IF we have desires to push on and win titles and cups.


9.) 24 May 2021 10:41:56
Its not like we will get a lot of money if we decide to sell him. Give him a full year loan to a good championship or lower PL side and let's see then.


10.) 24 May 2021 12:26:03
Williams is not as talented as some of the other youngsters. Yesterday did some things right, some thing wrong - like errors in simple passes.
I think he needs to be loaned out to a team where he plays regularly.

I m sure we ll see a much better player as he can easily iron out most of the errors he did yesterday by playing regularly.


 

 

 

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17 Jul 2021 12:21:08
Thanks for the info Ed.
Who would be interested in RL?
Doesn't he have some ambition to play for Real Madrid? I remember reading something about that once.

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14 Jul 2021 12:28:11
Heaton doesn't count.

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05 Jul 2021 09:58:35
Pogba to PSG?

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04 Jul 2021 20:04:29
All the rumours and moves look good on face value but I will reserve judgement until the window is closed.

Judging them on who they can move on will be a key measure for me.

Sancho and Varane would be an A grade window on incomings.

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20 Jun 2021 14:24:30
He's a good player and he's in the right place for his development.

He needs another season or too at Everton and who knows where they'll be if the keep hold of him.

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23 Jul 2021 09:01:21
Congratulations x.

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17 Jul 2021 15:15:39
I hear you AJH

A quick summary seems to be that Varane personal terms aren't an issue, Real/ Carlo want to meet him before he decides, new contract from Real is an option, player seems to be open to Utd and has been in touCh with Rio. Neil Custis says it will be done next week.


Looks. Set to happen.

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15 Jul 2021 14:19:39
I like the away and third kits more than the home.

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14 Jul 2021 11:37:12
I think we might see Sancho on the LW for a few games.

Martial can cover or James stays.

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14 Jul 2021 11:35:29
The break will do him good and at least it's not surgery on his legs.

Although I've heard he has an ankle issue that could be looked at at the same time.

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