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05 Jul 2024 19:07:50
Hey Ed’s,
Few reports today, specifically coming out of the Saudi national press about Bruno. There were previous reports of his agent talking to numerous European teams and the Saudis about a possible move. I have no idea how this all works but would the player instruct his agent to explore options?
Also is Bruno a target for the Saudi league as far as you know?
{Ed002's Note - Bruno Fernandes (AM) ME still beckons after an offer from Al Hilal was rejected by the player. Al-Nassr are willing to pay a premium fee to Manchester Unted and provide the player with significant compensation. A wildcard may be Bayern Munich who his agent approached - but they would not be interested if any significant fee was demanded. May well depart in the summer when there will be many changes or perhaps wait one more year. The club will not want him to leave, so they may need to offer a new contract.}
1.) 06 Jul 2024 11:52:15
Than you.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcom.}
2.) 06 Jul 2024 12:57:05
Still our best player in my opinion and gives his all every match.
3.) 06 Jul 2024 13:21:12
Disaster to sell him.
A) he is our best player by a country mile
B) Genuinely one of the only world class players we have
C) who in god's green earth could you replace him with
Untouchable for me.
4.) 06 Jul 2024 18:03:09
Angelred and Eric - what if he wants to leave?
5.) 06 Jul 2024 19:14:54
I'd sell him if we recieved a stupid offer.
6.) 06 Jul 2024 19:18:22
If he wants to leave that's okay. Never good to keep a player if he doesn't want to stay. I'm specifically talking about the club selling him of their own accord.
7.) 06 Jul 2024 20:23:38
They can't sell him if he doesn't want to leave angel. If he doesn't want to leave its irrelevant what the club want. He won't leave if he doesn't want to.
8.) 06 Jul 2024 22:46:42
Big loss if he goes but
1. The fee could accelerate our rebuild
2. We can be over-reliant on Bruno at times and need to move away from being dependent on him to having multiple attacking threats and strategies
3. He won’t stay forever: the longer he stays, the less fee we’ll get. Thus cash in now to get top dollar for him: it’s what Man City or Chelsea would do.
9.) 07 Jul 2024 09:17:09
Can't see Bruno going to Saudi and never struck me as a guy who is going to chase money that desperately and still a top player. Reality is guys like ronaldo and the rest of who have gone there are way past their best and had a choice to stay at significant reductions to what they earn and second tier clubs or take a massive pay off in exchange for many lifestyle aspects. Time will tell and comes down to the character of each individual.
10.) 07 Jul 2024 18:16:19
It is the players job and like most people if someone offered you a lot more money for a lot less work it would pique an interest.
This obviously doesn't apply to fans who have this false sense that a player should have loyalty over maximizing their earning poenltential and pundits who will tell you that modern footballers are all soft, disloyal money grabbers who are selling out, selling their soul, destroying their legacy, are generally just worse human beings than they are.
I can't really criticize any man who makes a decision that better secureaa the long term future and prospects of his family by maximizing his earning potential which for most currently would appear to be playing in Saudi.
03 Jul 2024 15:27:53
Hey Eds, We have been linked with a transfer for xavi simons in numerous press outlets. Have the club made any moves to do this transfer?
{Ed002's Note - No, they are teasing you.
Xavi Simons (CM/AM) PSG will talk to the player and assure him of game time and tell him he is not for sale. Barcelona would like him back but would need to persuade PSG to take players in exchange or accept an initial loan - that is not going to happen. Manchester City see him as another potential de Bruyne replacement. Bayern Munich has agreed personal terms with Simons' representatives but the club are a light year away in terms of valuation and will need to talk to PSG with the possibility of a player being used as part of a deal. A wildcard could be Chelsea if PSG press for Colwill. RBL would like a loan.}
1.) 04 Jul 2024 10:17:41
Thanks Ed, very much appreciated.
2.) 04 Jul 2024 20:58:40
Is he actually any good?
3.) 05 Jul 2024 05:14:24
He is hot and cold like most young wingers. watched him Torture arsenal in a European game this past year group stages or maybe last year. I prefer Nico Williams all day if we are going to chase a top young talent.
4.) 06 Jul 2024 09:11:28
Xavi Simons is no where near top level but has a Pogba sized Ego. He has had this from a young age with people pampering to him. My lad came up against him in a tournament when he was at Barcelona and absolutely rattled him in a fair tackle and he had to be stretched off. The way people were acting over him it was as if he’d finished Messi’s career. It was pathetic. My lad has the footage on his phone and we have a little giggle now and then. Unfortunately my lad had injuries and got long covid and isn’t playing anymore but he went into coaching and was one of the youngest to ever get the eufa B coaching badges.
19 Jun 2024 20:36:59
I see various media outlets are linking us to a £25m bid for Fermin Lopez. “Barcelona are said to have swiftly rejected the offer and stated that any further discussions would require an 'irrefutable' bid” sounds like there may be a deal to be done there.
I don’t know what’s going on with our transfers but I like the young exciting players we are being linked to.
1.) 19 Jun 2024 23:25:00
Apparently Lopez dismissed the opportunity also. According to some outlets.
2.) 20 Jun 2024 02:39:37
It’s barce feeding a friendly outlet a story to make them look good. It happens all the time in Spain.
3.) 20 Jun 2024 10:41:21
Being linked to these players is one thing, signing them is another.
There is absolutely zero chance that Lopez comes to United, it will never happen.
4.) 20 Jun 2024 15:19:25
We'll be linked with over 100 players SIM I agree. Shappy will link us with another 200
Do yourselves a favour and stop looking.
5.) 20 Jun 2024 15:40:09
On the Barcelona Page Ed002 mentions that he's available for €12M.
Anyone know what kind of player he is or is he any good? I've never watched him play tbh.
6.) 20 Jun 2024 19:18:22
Id go get Frenkie de Jong, andre Balde and maybe Araujo if we can't others in!
Frenkie is a must for me along with Joao Neves.
7.) 20 Jun 2024 20:25:57
There’s £300m off the bat Singh.
8.) 21 Jun 2024 06:52:01
Ronnie would be having a field day with all these links to young players.
19 Jan 2020 14:44:07
I see we’ve been linked to Luis Campos in the media this weekend. This would be a great move in my opinion, someone to give clear direction and strategy to the football side of things.
1.) 19 Jan 2020 14:54:24
Its Utds PR in over drive. Whenever a big game comes up or a loss these stories are leaked. Don't be fooled by it its nonsense. It doesn't take 18 months to appoint a DOF like Campos.
2.) 19 Jan 2020 17:20:57
Or maybe it does.
3.) 19 Jan 2020 18:37:05
Didnt Campos say in an interview in November 2019 that he was keen to link up with Jose at Spurs as he considers him his brother.
He was also critical of the United hierarchy and its lack of support of Jose while he was our manager, doesn't sound like someone who was looking to join us.
4.) 19 Jan 2020 21:05:08
Grim he did also say United would be an attractive prospect to work on. I see him at Spurs too though.
05 Jun 2019 11:13:57
I love silly season (must be annoying for the Ed’s) .
Just British player we are said to be signing:
Ben Godfrey
Harry Maguire
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Aaron Wan-Bissaka,
Declan Rice
Sean Longstaff
James Maddison
Daniel James
Jadon Sancho
Got to love the British press!
1.) 05 Jun 2019 12:14:03
Not a bad team though :)
2.) 05 Jun 2019 13:37:23
I'd take 8 of them, if not all.
3.) 05 Jun 2019 17:42:26
Plus Collins, Pickford, Hodson-Odoi, Sessegnon, Trippier,
Pretty much any young British player.
4.) 06 Jun 2019 07:25:00
Watched the Portugal game last night. after peoples advice.
. must say Fernandes did nothing special, I know club football is different to international football, but if we are offering 70 mil as reported. I'd half the transfer fee and go for William carvajal instead that man is a midfield beast.
5.) 06 Jun 2019 11:13:39
Rock,
And judging a player on one game is always a perfect way to make your signings, let’s hope our scouting department watch players more than once when the player is out of position and playing with a few players he’s never played with before.
6.) 06 Jun 2019 12:16:02
William Carvahal is a poor player, West Ham were after him and that's about his level. He's clumsy and can't pass or tackle well.
7.) 06 Jun 2019 14:02:50
Wazza,
But but but he played well last night!
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19 Jun 2024 12:29:41
I see we have been linked to Xavi Simons. Purely putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. Bruno has been repeatedly linked with a Saudi move. Could we see Bruno to Saudi and Simons to United with a net cash gain?
1.) 19 Jun 2024 13:28:36
That isn't a bad shout out there Rewz.
However I think it this unlikely. Xavi Simmons will have far better options than Utd. I'm not even sure if he is an actual target for Utd.
I think Neves from Benfica is more likely to be playing at OT at the upcoming season.
In football, anything can happen.
2.) 19 Jun 2024 13:42:11
Not sure there’d be a net cash gain from it.
3.) 19 Jun 2024 14:27:00
Purely off the numbers reported in the press (So pinch of salt time) Xavi Simons, PSG apparently want £50m and Bruno is speculated to be valued at around £100m by the Saudi clubs so based on absolutely no concrete information and merely paper talk a £50m net gain.
If we could do anywhere near those numbers we'd be replacing a player that is 30 in September with a 21 year old that is statistically similar to Bruno with improving year on year stats but is almost 10 years his junior.
If by some miracle the press reports were correct on valuations etc, it would be good business. £50m gets you half a Joao Neves.
4.) 19 Jun 2024 14:44:13
Watching Fernandes last night, I have no idea why anyone would want to move him on. I know he's not some people's cuppa tea but I think the fella is quality and if we are to make any sort of challenge and cup runs next season he will be pivotal for the team.
5.) 19 Jun 2024 14:47:17
Add that to the reported £80m Al Nassr Casemiro fee (got to love a bit of media speculation) and we replace Bruno and Casemiro with Xavi Simons and Joao Neves and still have £30m left over. Or half an Olise (Hahahaha)
6.) 19 Jun 2024 16:49:01
That could be good Rewz, but which half of Olise do we get?
7.) 19 Jun 2024 17:30:53
The right half.
8.) 19 Jun 2024 17:41:29
That would still probably be better than Antony!
9.) 19 Jun 2024 20:35:32
Simmons and Bruno are not the same type of players. Additionally whatever you think of his moaning Bruno is a leader and experienced and we lack that type of player so to get rid and bring in a young inexperienced player makes no sense.
10.) 19 Jun 2024 21:50:33
Selling at the right time for the right price is part of a great recruitment strategy.
11.) 20 Jun 2024 00:36:31
If you believe any clubs going to pay £80m for Casemiro I’ve got some magic beans to sell you ?.
12.) 20 Jun 2024 09:25:30
Bruno and Simmons are nothing alike in playing style.
How much of Simmons have you seen?
13.) 20 Jun 2024 19:41:58
Approximately 3.14159265359 hours per lunar cycle.
14.) 20 Jun 2024 19:42:32
rews
simmons is a kid bruno is another class imo. Playing bruno deep is martinez being inept and another manager who is lucky to be managing a team like portugal which has so much talent.
02 Mar 2022 10:51:04
I really don’t think Pochettino is the right manager for us. All of the Spurs fans I know believe he has no plan B and makes really poor decisions with subs and tactics in key games. Also given that he’s essentially playing FIFA with that PSG team he hasn’t exactly done anything special, I mean he lost the league to Lille. I just don’t get the hype for a manager who’s won hardly anything.
I personally like Rúben Amorim, the guy had caused a seismic shift in Portuguese football. However if RR feels the EtH is the coach that best fits with his vision then the club should go that route.
1.) 02 Mar 2022 11:59:06
Has been spurs most successful manager for 20 years got then to 1st cl final ever.
I wouldn't mind spurs fans they are always moaning. Bit like our own.
Your spurs friends are no doubt all highly qualified and are speaking from a position of great expertise. Having managed professional sorts teams.
RR is an interim manager who will provide consultancy.
Why do you think eth is is preferred choice? What makes you think that? The sun? The mirror the click bait?
The fact is you have no idea who RR's preference would be.
If his preference and recomendation is poch, do you then want RR ignored because of what your mates from Spurs told you? Do the club stop listening to RR if he thinks poch is a good option?
You have no idea absolutely none of whom RR wants only rumour and conjecture to go on.
2.) 02 Mar 2022 12:39:48
Let’s be honest, nobody is that successful at Spurs. Being Spursy and failure is part of her job description.
I think any Tottenham fan who wouldn’t want Poch back in a heartbeat is totally deluded.
I’m becoming more and more convinced Ralf will stay on another year.
3.) 02 Mar 2022 13:18:26
Eric, depending on how the next month goes I expect it will be sign Pochettino or stick with Ralf for another season then look at someone like Ruben Amorim or even Potter once the team has been sorted out a little and hopefully a better structure is in place to support the manager.
4.) 02 Mar 2022 13:59:51
Potter is not now and it's highly unlikely he ever will be under consideration.
5.) 02 Mar 2022 14:28:05
Probably not Ken. I just mean it will be possibly a younger up and coming manager in 18 months time.
If we don't sign Pochettino this summer for whatever reason.
Then EtH apparently isn't currently under consideration. But he'll have plenty of other options.
What top managers might be available in 18 months time that would suit the club?
I think if they don't get Pochettino they will stick with Ralf (as long as he doesn't tank in March) then look to get a young up and coming manager like Ruben Amorim. Maybe at that time if Potter has continued to do well with Brighton he might be considered. But it's more that type of manager I mean than those specific names.
6.) 02 Mar 2022 16:16:54
I get you shappy but poch will be appointed I'd guess.
7.) 02 Mar 2022 17:03:11
Ken, the only reason it won't be Pochettino is if he gets a job offer from elsewhere that he would rather take such as the Real Madrid job if it becomes available.
On one hand if Real Madrid can win the second leg and go through then maybe PSG will make a move to sack him and Real Madrid might be more inclined to stick with Ancelotti.
However, on the other hand it would just be something for all the fans who don't want Pochettino to use as a reason for not wanting him. Especially if he doesn't see out the season with PSG and win the league with them.
Yet if it's going to be Pochettino as our next manager regardless there is definitely a benefit to be had in being able to get him on board sooner and start the planning for next season with his input.
8.) 02 Mar 2022 19:20:03
Viva. People run with the hares then chase with the hounds. Contradicting themselves with a load of emotional claptrap.
It's an emotional game for sure but so much expertise on here from plumbers to bankers and students that have never kicked a ball coached or been involved in a professional outfit. There is a reason they are not football players or managers It's because they are not qualified and don't have a clue what they are talking about.
I see folk talking about ownership and finances jumping to frankly ludicrous assumptions and quoting the sun or the daily mirror they have no idea what they are talking about and mostly coming from a position of complete ignorance. No wonder ed002 won't get into finances.
9.) 02 Mar 2022 19:32:14
Jeez the Potter nonsense is back. I assume as he’s a young and upcoming English manager. He’s doing ok at a club with no expectations, and I susoect he might even follow Southgate when that time comes. But I hope the only time he is at OT is as a visiting rival manager.
10.) 02 Mar 2022 21:43:15
Potter is very good coach, one I fully expect will be a top one for years to come. For me he has England coach written all over him, in fact, he would be perfect for them right now.
But he needs to take the next step, to show he can compete, possibly win a trophy before he will be considered for a top job. I'm sure he will do it though.
11.) 02 Mar 2022 22:00:40
To be fair Angel, Southgate won sweet FA but was only a penalty away from winning the Euros.
12.) 02 Mar 2022 22:35:11
Southgate is stealing a living with england, a half decent manager would have won the euros with england.
13.) 03 Mar 2022 07:15:16
Rewz, I totally agree. I think Poch is a good manager but not a very good manager. His record is OK at best. He got a very good Spurs side to the final of CL and that was the highlight of his career and he lost the match easily. His methods are tried but have not been successful. Also, worryingly, he has not handled the big egos at PSG very well, and United have plenty of them.
His style of football does not fit RR philosophy and does not win trophies.
Agreed on Amorim, Sporting have no financial clout, yet he's got them playing excellent football. They were demolished by a City side that were very good on the night though.
Ten Hag will be my choice, he plays the high press, he has got Ajax to be competitive in Europe on a shoestring budget, and he's a winner.
I sincerely hope we don't opt for Poch. And if we go for Southgate, then God help us.
14.) 03 Mar 2022 07:41:31
Nonsense bolger. England have never won the euros and gone in with better squads than Southgate has he has been England's 2nd best manager ever. He is doing a great job and should be kept there.
Great man manager a good man good morals and ethics and to say the 2nd best ever is staying a living because you don't like him shows exactly that your bias makes your opinion redundant when talking about him.
Stealing a living??? 2nd best ever.
15.) 03 Mar 2022 09:06:18
If Southgate had been braver the Euros final was there to be won, let's face it as England manager and with the squad he has, qualifying for the tournament is a doddle, especially with the soft groups England always seem to get .
Once at the finals, it's six games to the final, bit of luck in the draw and you might not play one of the really big guns until the semis or final. Now compare that to winning a league title over 38 games against the likes of City and Liverpool .
As for the morals and ethics bit, we're back in Ole territory . Nice guy but not ruthless enough for a very top job.
16.) 03 Mar 2022 09:07:19
Southgate is the right man for England and should be applauded for what he has done with England. I do think he made mistakes at the Euros and we could/ should have won it but a World Cup Semi Final and a Euro Final is good going considering, we aren't as good as some might like to think we are. I just don't think he is a club manager.
17.) 03 Mar 2022 10:52:55
I don't think Southgate is the right fit or good enough to manage at the top end of the EPL.
Yet to dismiss his achievements with England seems a little petty.
He didn't have Ferdinand, Terry and Cole as the core of his back line.
He had Stones, Maguire and Chilwell.
He didn't have Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes as his key midfield options.
He had Phillips, Rice and Henderson.
Let's not pretend this is a top class England side crammed full of world class talents.
There are perhaps 6 or 7 international teams in the world that on paper have a far more talented pool of players.
We have repeatedly struggled to keep a defence that contains Maguire in the top four of the EPL, while Southgate has managed to take a team with Maguire to the World cup Semi-finals and the Euro's final.
He hasn't got great players at his disposal, but he makes the team greater than the sum of its parts. He gets the players motivated and gets them believing they can succeed. Two things most England managers have struggled with.
Obviously there is a massive disparity between the standard at international level and the EPL. And I don't think Southgates tactics would stand up to scrutiny at a higher and more technically challenging level that is the EPL.
Which is fine, he's doing well at the level he's at. Leave him there and focus on bringing in a manager who can work at the level we need, who fits the club's criteria.
18.) 03 Mar 2022 13:34:30
Exactly shappy.
Doing a better job than anyone before him with England in any of our lifetimes.
Bolger if you are half as good at your job as Southgate is pricing to be at his in sure your paymasters will be well pleased.
19.) 03 Mar 2022 14:59:43
you are right ken other managers have gone in with better squads but they have faced teams with much better squads also
i don't hate southgate i think he's done a good job with england considering how poor of a manager he is
but let's be honest we had an easy draw in the euros, teams you would expect England to beat
we had scotland croatia and the czech in the group
ukraine
gemrany
czech
italy
played 5 of the 6 games at home with the home crowd advantage this was the best chance of us winning somthing since 66 and we failed, southgates choice of subs and pen takers cost us and his negative tatics after we scored.
as bilko said above he reminds me of ole, to negative all nicey nice, its all good and well smashing the likes of san marino but he has failed in 2 consecutive competitions 3 if you count that other pointless one they introduced.
but for people to suggest him as united manager, please give me a break. he has found his level playing the likes of andorra and san marino
shappy comparing squads is pointless, that's like saying has france got zidane petit and viera b ut i agree with the bottom part of what you said.
we are all entitled to our opinions and mine stands at southgate is stealing a living and he should not be anywhere near being a choice for united
my paymasters are well pleased ken thanks for asking.
20.) 03 Mar 2022 15:51:54
Bolger, my point was more that we have had much more gifted players in the past but performanced much worse.
The question you should be asking is how many of England's starting 11 would make it into the starting 11 of teams such as France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Brazil, Argentina or Italy.
I don't think we get more than 3 players into everyone of those sides. I think some sides we'd struggle to get one England player into an opposition national team.
So if there are 8 sides that have a comparably stronger team than us then to go further than them suggests we are over performing by comparison.
As for having an easy path, that might be fine for one tournament, but consistently getting to Semi-finals/ finals suggests it's more than pot luck.
It's also not like the England have only ever been knocked out by better sides either. I remember losing to Romania and Iceland. Going out after loses to Italy, Uruguay and drawing to Costa Rica in the group stages.
We have a history of under performing and losing to teams we should beat. He has sorted that out.
I know a lot of people are bitter about not winning the Euro's. While it's easy in hindsight to say we should have been more adventurous during the final. The truth is if we were we may have conceded by being more open as a side.
We lost on penalties when a couple of young players who have probably scored thousands of penalties in practice missed on the big stage. It happens. Anyone can miss a penalty under that pressure.
Both lads are forwards and in theory should be more confident in front of goal than our defenders and midfielders.
I won't blame Southgate for picking them and I won't blame the lads for missing them. It happens. We move on.
As Ken says there is only one England manager with a better record than Southgate. If he can win something then he will go down as the most successful England manager of all time.
21.) 03 Mar 2022 16:14:21
Shappy,
Who are the 6 or 7 sides in the world with a better pool of players right now?
22.) 04 Mar 2022 07:32:25
Yeah, Southgate is the worst, since, before him, England was winning every competition! ?.
23.) 04 Mar 2022 08:06:31
I don’t think Southgate steals a living that’s bit too far, there are many other managers that once on the merry go round of managers do well to get sacked and walk straight into another job does that mean they steal a living…No, but does it also mean they are top quality managers again NO IMO we only had 1 top quality manager in last 10 years including the present one and that’s Jose, but for some reason he was not backed or liked at the club to succeed. People can say they did not like him or he is rubbish for whatever reason but look at his CV that knocks that argument out…. Southgate no CV to speak of.
24.) 04 Mar 2022 09:15:41
Bilko. France, Belgium, Portugal, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy and I'd even argue Holland have a better pool of players than us to select from if you look at the defence for example, VVD, De Ligt, Dumfries, De Vrij, Blind, Botman would all get in our squad ahead of a lot of our defenders.
I would put us on par with Spain currently, just below these teams although I would say we are closing the gap.
25.) 04 Mar 2022 09:59:56
Bilko, Ports beat me to it. Ask yourself how many England players would make it into the starting 11 for any of Brazil, Belgium, France, Portugal, Germany, Italy, Argentina, Holland or Spain.
Unless you can get at least 6 players into their starting 11 then they have a better team than you. I'd argue that you'd struggle to get more than 8 English players into any of those countries 23 man squad they would take to any tournament.
Which means that those countries have a better pool of players.
26.) 04 Mar 2022 10:09:41
Viva, while Jose's achievements are undeniable, I think it's fair to question whether he is anywhere near as good as he used to be.
Personally I don't think he's been the same since his Real Madrid sacking.
He came back to Chelsea and got an immediate response, but it soon went sideways. When he left Chelsea were closer to relegation than top four.
He struggled at United, did well in two of the cups. Personally I feel Jose's style is more suited to knockout football. But it all ended in a rather big mess.
He then went to Spurs and never did much. Got them in a run to a cup final but was doing so poorly in the league he was sacked before he could play the final (which they lost in typical Spurs fashion) .
He's now at Roma and they are very middle of the road under him. Treading water currently in 6th in Serie A which this season is looking more open than it has in many years. With Juventus off the pace and Inter not looking as strong as they were under Conte.
Personally I think Jose is finished as a club manager. He's a guy who might be able to get a side to a cup final and maybe even win it. His defensive style that keeps the score low is well suited to knockout football. But in the league he doesn't seem to be able to keep pace with more free playing, proactive style.
I think the best solution for him is to move into international management. The knockout cup format suits his style. While the more time he can spend with his family might be better suited to him at this point in his life.
26 Oct 2021 11:26:42
I'm really hoping for someone like Potter to come in, relatively young, has achieved in a different country and has his current team punching above its weight. He's shown that tactically he's quality and he can also develop a player. The only question would be over his ability to handle the egos. But is the job right for him? Is the structure at the club there to enable him to succeed?
1.) 26 Oct 2021 11:38:48
Not for me - has as much if not less experience than Ole. Maybe in a few years if he gets an interim move to a Newcastle or even a Spurs.
2.) 26 Oct 2021 11:42:57
The real question however would be if the club can handle him because his ambitions might not match with the club's ?.
3.) 26 Oct 2021 11:51:50
Quite frankly I would not like to condemn any young manager to taking us on at the mo. I would not want to risk their reputation and progress by climbing aboard our shipwreck early in their career.
25 Nov 2019 15:06:24
Doesn’t look good for Ole, 20 points off top and 7 points from relegation. He did a good job last season post Jose but he should never of been put in this position in the first place. The club are in a precarious position, no team has the god given right to be top 4 comparing in the CL every year, it’s earned and we look pretty far from being in that position.
There’s a lot of work to be done to bring 4 post Ferguson era managers transfer dealings together in a cohesive way. This requires more than just a manager, this needs a team of footballing people with a clear vision and strategy than can be implemented and be used as a blue print so coaches/ managers can come and go buy the overall strategy retains focus. Manchester United is a big business, change is going to be difficult, it’s going to be expensive and it’s going to need very clear leadership driving it. It will be interesting to see what’s we do over the next 18 months.
1.) 25 Nov 2019 15:19:03
Why not suggest a manager that will do wonders with the current squad? Ole deserves a fair chance with at least 3 more transfer windows to rebuild the squad. Would definitely not want to start from 0 again after sacking him.
2.) 25 Nov 2019 16:34:29
Becks, take Ole the man and the player out of your mind and just look at his C. V and his results since joining. Why should he be giving another 3 windows or 18 months?
I asked the question to the pro Ole fans a few months ago. "What is the bare minimum he needs to produce to stay in the job? ". The answer from them all was top 4. Now as we slip further and further from that goal, watch the tide shifts to make more excuses for the man.
It's just sheer stubborness at this stage that fans want to keep him in the job. Pochettino and Allegri are available. Both better coaches. Both willing to join.
Arsenal are ahead of us on points and Emery is one or two results away from being sacked. Spurs were 2 points behind us and sacked their manager that got them to a champions league final. We gave our manager a 4 year contract for beating PSG.
Ole has nothing in his managerial arsenal to succeed at the top. We're 9th in the league. I'd imagine we'll be in and around that position when Ole is sacked in January.
3.) 25 Nov 2019 16:34:56
Becks i would have agreed with you IF we had a manager in charge. Ole isn't a manager. He is just an emotion.
4.) 25 Nov 2019 16:52:18
you know its coming, i wouldn't be surprised if ed has already spoken to poch agent to get him in the summer.
5.) 25 Nov 2019 17:32:12
The real worry is that Poch has gone through a difficult time at Spurs this season, is he ready for the job? What happens if Poch struggles for a while with the squad we have and having Woodie to deal with the transfers and he messes up?
How long are we going to keep changing managers? Ole is definitely not a top manager, but if we are serious in rebuilding this club we need to provide whoever is in charge with ample time to complete the process. If we do fire Ole and hire Poch, we need to stick with him for at least 3yrs and give him the resources to do so.
We also need to think long term and whoever comes in next isn't going to stick around for their entire career, so we need to make sure to get a proper structure in place within a time frame allowing any future managerial changes to go through smoothly and not affect the matters on the pitch.
6.) 25 Nov 2019 19:32:38
I find it funny that two of the biggest sticks used to beat Ole is him not winning anything (in a major league, because winning a title for the first time in a club's history doesn't count if it's in Norway) and the club's form since February.
Yet many of those same people who say we need to fire Ole for those reasons also want Pochettino to get the job even though he has won less than Ole and has a worse record since February.
7.) 25 Nov 2019 20:25:14
Shappy
I read today that Ole has a worse record than Moyes. The only reason he is still in place is what he did as a player not what he did at Molde. Cardiff was more relevant a role to judge. Because we as supporters don’t unanimously agree on a successor is not a reason to keep a failing manager in place.
8.) 25 Nov 2019 20:47:48
Shappy the Norwegian title win got him the job at Cardiff. He failed miserably in that role. Unfortunately a title win from the Norwegian league should never be enough to land the Manchester United job. Molde have just won the league again yet nobody would know their managers name without Google.
Steve McClaren won the Dutch league with FC Twente. That got him the Wolfsburg job. Every year a manager wins the title in lesser leagues and they climb their way up the ladder, or make huge waves in Europe and skip a few rungs.
If you cannot see the good work that Pochettino has done at both Southampton and Spurs then you simply have a vendetta against the man. A Manager that got Spurs consistently into the top 4 is much more pertinent to our situation than a manager who won a title in Norway 6 years ago.
It was time for him to leave Spurs but his work there should not be discounted. They're in a much better place now than when he took over. He presided over a stadium move and kept them competitive.
Is top 4 still the minimum for Ole this year Shappy?
9.) 25 Nov 2019 21:23:13
I hope we sack him and appoint poch.
10.) 25 Nov 2019 22:02:22
That comment is childish Mort. No fan wants to see Ole fail. This isn't so we can say "i told you so". We want what's best for the club. I think our best chance to improve and climb up the table is with a different manager.
If Ole was doing his job right it wouldn't matter what manager was available, but right now he has shown very little for me to be optimistic about the future.
11.) 25 Nov 2019 23:58:42
Mumbles the rest of my comment got cut. By all means sack him. But you'll be here again wanting his successor sacked. And his successor. And for some people on here it is all about "I told you so. "
12.) 26 Nov 2019 08:41:21
I seen your original comment Mort and it was even more childish than what the eds changes it to.
Whatever new manager is appointment is playing dour football, being tactically outclassed by Steve Bruce and Wilder, if the new manager comes off the pitch gleaming and smiling after conceding a late goal against newly promoted Sheffield United taking about "huge strides forward" and languishing mid table with very little signs of improvement, then yes, I will be calling for his head.
13.) 26 Nov 2019 12:23:00
And constantly chopping and changing managers is solving what exactly?
The biggest problem is the unbalanced squad filled with average players from 4 previous managers.
You want to blame someone then blame the genius who rwn down Herrera's contract then didn't replace him. Who made a joke bid for Bruno Fernandes. Who dragged out the lukaku sale and didn't leave enough time to get a replacement in.
We need to allow a manager time to shift out the average joes, bring in quality and develop the youngsters and we have a manager who is trying to do that albeit with an arm tied behind his back.
Do I think we will the league under Ole? No. But I do think in 3 years time we'll be in a better place and the next guy will win it.
We need patience and someone with a clue running transfers. Not constant whining at every setback.
14.) 26 Nov 2019 15:04:54
Great post, Mort.
15.) 26 Nov 2019 18:10:23
Chers Nou.
15 Aug 2018 17:23:30
Hello Ed’s Paul Mitchell from RB Leipzig has been linked to the DoF role. In your opinion do you think he would be a good choice for the role? He appears to have a very good track record with regards to player recruitment from his time at Southampton, Spurs and Leipzig.
{Ed001's Note - looks a good choice on the face of it. Has an excellent track record.}
1.) 15 Aug 2018 18:16:51
So we've moved on from transfers to new managers and new DOF. Does it ever stop?
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United already have someone who would be far better than Paul Mitchell in the role - it would be a dumb move to look to him for anything other than being a scout.}
2.) 15 Aug 2018 19:25:19
Ed, is this the guy you mentioned a while ago, John Murtaugh.
{Ed002's Note - No, Marcel Bout.}
3.) 15 Aug 2018 19:36:49
Is Marcel Bout the chief scout or something along the lines? Also, could Bout be an option for the DOF role Ed002? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - He is “something like that†and he should be.}
4.) 15 Aug 2018 20:18:30
Thanks Ed.
06 Jul 2024 18:03:09
Angelred and Eric - what if he wants to leave?
06 Jul 2024 11:52:15
Than you.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcom.}
04 Jul 2024 10:17:41
Thanks Ed, very much appreciated.
01 Jul 2024 20:32:13
As long as the medical for the knee ligament is ok he’s a good signing. I believe Juve were very annoyed when he left for Bayern, I remember Bonucci slating him in the press. He’s known for having a strong character and great leadership skills, youngest captain of Ajax and national team captain. Something we really need to get into the dressing room. He can play out and play in a high line. He’s an elite level CB at a good age (24).
The only issue I can really see with the deal is the cost. He’s on £250k a week. I’ve seen a couple of reports of a £42m deal, if we can get the wages down it’s good value.
30 Jun 2024 11:00:32
Ugarte is an excellent Casemiro replacement. He reads the game brilliantly, he’s a tackling, intercepting machine. He’s retains the ball well as an be seen in his passing stats. He will bring the ball out when taking a pass from the defence. He’s not known for making long forward passes or expansive passing, he’s a player that going to win the ball and give it. As said above an excellent partner for Mainoo and will provide elite level cover for the defence.
12 Jul 2024 14:39:03
If we are looking at Xavi Simons, you would assume that Bruno is off to Saudi. My personal opinion, is that if we get a massive fee for Bruno, Simons makes sense as you are getting a player almost 10 years younger with a statistically similar output. A loan with a fixed obligation to buy would be fantastic as it would shift the capital outlay to another financial period.
10 Jul 2024 22:12:38
Clear out the dressing room. Especially the troublemakers. Remove the top earners and reset the pay structure (Sancho, Varane, Casemiro and Rashford) . Sell Maguire, Eriksen, Lindlof, Wan Bissaca, Mctominay, Greenwood and Antony.
If Saudi offer over £120m in cash sell Bruno
Buy players who put a shift in, strong characters, winning mentality.
08 Jul 2024 12:53:26
Juve fans were gutted to lose him. Bonucci was savage about him (as he saw him a a long term player for Juve) . He’s 24 captained club and country. I don’t get the hate.
06 Jul 2024 12:31:29
Joao Neves and Xavi Simons with the Bruno cash. Simons has similar offensive stats to Bruno but with better passing and carrying metrics, I’m in no way saying he’s better I’m just saying he’s at a great age with great out put.
28 Jun 2024 11:23:58
It's still very early in the window and there are two major championships happening, it's probably a little early to make assumptions. As stated by other posters, moving players on is going to be the single biggest challenge for the club. To comply with PSR we need headspace on the wage bill and capital in order to facilitate a major overhaul of the playing staff. There appear to be bids going in for player (how true is an unknown) so it looks like the club have some sort of plan.
Moving Sancho, Rashford and Greenwood which from reports seems to be something potentially happening is going to pull significant numbers off the wage bill and add some funds. I's suggest these three are our biggest potential sales. Then you add in Maguire, Casemiro, Eriksen, Donny and AWB we could free up significant financials giving the club a lot of freedom to move in the transfer market. However, its all hearsay and conjecture at this point.
I'm optimistic for a good window and I'm looking forward to next season with the new coaches etc.