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26 Jun 2025 17:32:17
It would seem we have reached a basic agreement with Brentford for Mbuemo,
£60m guaranteed base fee and £5m in extras. Only thing left to do is finalise the payment structure and determine the achievable add-ons that both clubs are happy with. Mbuemo will then undertake his medical.
Very close now! I can really see him and Cunha being transformative to our attacking play, they both seem absolutely ideal for the positions they are being bought to fill, while also being more than capable of playing anywhere across the forward line.
I personally would like to see Rashford off to Barcelona next, doing some form of swap deal for Ronald Araujo, Ideal for central Centre Back position 6' 4'' Very quick, very strong, great in the air. A beast of a defender, only downside is he's not the best with the ball at his feet. We shall see.
1.) 26 Jun 2025 18:01:35
If £150k a week wages are true as well that will be another positive that we are learning from our current crop of players struggling to sell.
2.) 26 Jun 2025 18:34:08
On paper Cunha and mbeumo make sense and look good signings.
But we’ve all been here before over the last few years with signings. But not many have turned out that way.
Fingers crossed this is a new era.
Helps they have plenty of premier league experience.
3.) 26 Jun 2025 20:23:05
Think that's the point Fallguy, have we been here before?
This is buying established Premier League players who have been performing to a high standard for a while. Buying specific player's for specific positions with skillset's totally suited to those positions.
Previously it was buying player's from overseas leagues based more on what profile they could bring for commercial revenues.
Anyway, obviously no guarantees whoever you buy, but all we can do is hope there will be more right than wrong!
4.) 27 Jun 2025 00:08:08
When was the last time we bought one of the best 10 players in the premier league from their respective clubs? Never mind 2 in 1 summer. It’s been a while that’s for sure.
5.) 27 Jun 2025 07:36:51
It's a positive we have signed 2 players at their peak.
Almost guaranteed they will hit the ground running. Takes pressure off other attackers.
6.) 27 Jun 2025 09:37:52
I really don't think we could have chosen two better players from the Prem for these positions than we have.
7.) 27 Jun 2025 11:46:38
All we need now is someone up top who can score the goals.
8.) 27 Jun 2025 12:11:11
Gds agreed. 2 extremely good signings. They will make a huge difference to our goals this year. I think if we sort that out, there will be less pressure on our defence and Onana if he is still there.
9.) 27 Jun 2025 16:53:14
It feels like a weirdly sensible approach to transfers.
Recognising that we’re not in a position to buy the absolute best players in the league, but that we can buy quality players that have been effective here. More importantly, players that have a clear role in the manager’s system.
10.) 27 Jun 2025 19:04:45
Cunha and Mbuemo scored 35 goals between them last season, almost as many as our whole team. Maybe Obi or Hojlund, if he's not sold or loaned out, will add a few and then Bruno and Amad will surely contribute some more. A top striker would be a boon but I think we'll score 55+ in the coming season without any further additions up top.
11.) 27 Jun 2025 19:50:02
While these look like sensible signings on the surface, we’ve made plenty of decent-looking moves in recent years, only to see players melt under the pressure in front of 76,000 at Old Trafford.
Hopefully, these two have a bit more about them and don’t go the way of others we thought would turn us into contenders.
12.) 27 Jun 2025 20:50:00
Second bid rejected apparently so this one has a bit to run yet.
11 Jun 2025 15:51:36
The Sporting club president has come out and said " I can guarantee that Victor Gyokeres will not leave for 60m euros plus 10m euros because I never promised that".
He reckons he only said they would not demand the full 100m euros release clause.
Think any possible deal for him will be long and complicated, at best.
1.) 11 Jun 2025 18:20:21
sporting seem like a temperamental bunch, weren't long ago their fans were storming the training ground attacking the players.
Probably better off moving elsewhere like Osihmen or Mateta if we want a cheaper option.
Just seen Zirkzee enjoying himself on holiday, seems like the guy who will turn up to pre season two stone overweight, so either way we need a number 9 asap.
2.) 11 Jun 2025 23:16:03
Doubt osimhen would be cheaper. Demanding huge wages and after the season he's had I think napoli would still demand north of 50-60 million.
3.) 12 Jun 2025 08:17:34
Osimhen would be worth a punt at £50-60m. I’d put him in the same bracket as Isak.
27 May 2025 20:46:53
Payment structure now agreed with Wolves for Cunha. Payable in 3 instalments over a 2 year period.
Deal should be concluded in a couple of days.
25 May 2025 21:11:45
It seems Matheus Cunha has agreed a 5 yr contract with us. He will wear No 10 shirt (so long Marcus! ) .
We are going to contact Wolves next week to trigger his release clause.
So it begins!
Good performance today best we have played for some time. Whilst all that will be talked about is disallowed goal, it would have been a travesty had we not won that game.
Think Ayden Heaven is a future star, doesn't have to be all about big transfer fees.
Very impressed with RA speech at end of game.
Looking forward to next season already!
1.) 25 May 2025 23:10:38
Rumours that Arsenal bidding for Cesko. If true and we could get Gokeres it would transform our attack.
2.) 25 May 2025 23:19:24
So he is taking Rashford’s shirt and Garnacho’s position.
3.) 26 May 2025 09:33:16
Cunha will be a great signing for us, EPL proven, a goal scorer and seems well suited to Amorim's system/ style of play. He also has a edge about it, something I think this team needs as our players seem too nice/ soft.
Gyökeres would be the dream striker out of the available potential targets. Whether he's achievable is another matter. While he's arguably not at the same level if we were to miss out on Gyökeres I think Mateta from Palace would probably be the best alternative. EPL proven, good experience, and has shown he can thrive in a system similar to Amorim's. He also has one year left on his contract so shouldn't be a silly price like some have quoted. Could be available for 35-40m.
Beyond them Delap wouldn't be a bad signing, he has all the attributes we want and has shown he can score in the EPL for a side that created very few chances for him. While his time in the City academy would suggest that he is capable of playing well in a ball dominant side. The only down side to him is his relative lack of experience. With only one year of EPL experience and being just 22 years old, it takes a player with an elite mentality to be able to step up to a club our size and carry the expectations of being our starting striker. We've already seen Rasmus fail to manage it. Although when he did it he was a little younger and less experienced than Delap is currently.
Ultimately whichever striker we sign it's a bit of a gamble, you never know how they will adapt to the EPL, or the pressures of playing for our club.
Finally Ayden Heaven while only making a few appearances is a player who I'm very hopeful that he can step up and become a great player for us. He seems to have a very mature head on young shoulders, has all the physical attributes you want and is excellent on the ball. Long term I can see him and Yoro becoming the bedrocks for our team either in a back three or back four.
4.) 26 May 2025 10:29:06
I actually see a fair bit of a young Rio Ferdinand in Heaven and Yoro. I am really excited to see their progress. I am optimistic for both of them.
5.) 26 May 2025 11:13:52
Yoro at RCB and Heaven at LCB with a quick and strong partner in the middle would be ideal for the future.
Unfortunately Maguire and De Ligt don’t have the pace for it, but would probably be ok for another season whilst the money is spent elsewhere in the team.
Just need some legs in the middle of the park to help cover any gaps.
6.) 26 May 2025 18:26:56
De Ligt is more than good enough and quick enough in the centre. Per UEFA data from this years Europa League his top speed was 32.2 km/ h. Leny Yoro is 33.2km/ h. Maguire was 30.7km/ h. De Ligt also reads the game very well. He took time to acclimatise to the Premier League but I really don't get the negativity around De Ligt here. I think we're lucky to have him.
7.) 26 May 2025 23:25:30
Agreed Donred. A back three of Yoro, deLigt and Heaven looks very good to me.
8.) 27 May 2025 12:41:43
Not a chance RA goes into new season with Yoro, Heaven and Deligt, be another recipe for disaster, RA buys a quality CB with pace who is commanding to direct the other two and the pace to cover them and not injured more than he plays… 100% new CB comes in.
9.) 27 May 2025 17:38:01
German, I think you will be disappointed come the close of the transfer window. I really doubt we will sign a CB.
10.) 28 May 2025 01:34:53
Let’s see…. your right I be more than disappointed if we don’t sign a CB but the good news is RA will be more disappointed than me, because it’s high on his wish list, that’s why I am 100% convinced we will…and we certainly need one.
11.) 29 May 2025 11:19:01
How do you know what's on his wishlist german?
L.
16 Mar 2025 15:28:08
It seems very likely Onana will be out injured tonight, he's having very late fitness test.
Altay Bayindir is also out, with no return date known.
Tom Heaton also out of action.
If Onana fails test then down to an Academy player, Dermot Mee probably favourite. Other option is Elyh Harrison, seen him quite a few times and always been impressed, only just 19 though.
We'll find out all in a few hours.
1.) 16 Mar 2025 16:04:00
From what I’m seeing it’s looking like Mee if Onana doesn’t make it. I’ve not really seen much of the youth keepers, but many are saying Harrison is the better keeper.
2.) 16 Mar 2025 16:28:12
Think I would agree Fallguy, think Harrison is better but can see Mee getting the gig as he is a bit more experienced. Hopefully, whoever is picked will not be over extended but must not dismiss Leicester too readily as strange thing's can happen.
Do however expect a pretty convincing win.
3.) 16 Mar 2025 18:32:16
Never mind. Onana starts.
Was kind of looking forward to seeing one of the youngsters in goal though.
4.) 17 Mar 2025 18:57:40
What’s wrong with Bayindir and when is he back?
5.) 18 Mar 2025 15:39:50
Eric, the issue with Bayindir is unknown and also his return date is unknown, a bit strange really.
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05 Jul 2025 16:09:42
Never thought I would say this, well done Liverpool, being reported that they intend to fully pay up the remainder of the contract of Diogo Jota.
Restores a bit of belief that it is not just about greed. Whilst clearly will not change things but hopefully ensure his wife and children have financial futures worry free.
Good for them.
1.) 05 Jul 2025 23:04:01
The sad thing is, SJR probably wouldn't have done the same.
Good work Liverpool.
02 Jul 2025 22:28:51
So, Chelsea have signed Joao Pedro from Brighton for £60m.
Seemingly he is the 18th forward they have bought in just over three years of the current ownership.
The spend on these attackers is £560m, they have also agreed a £55m deal for Gittens at Dortmund so the spend will go to £615m.
There is of course lot's more time this window to make further signings (sure they will)
This, of course, does not include midfielders and defenders so big increases there.
So, are we watching a sound and well thought out business strategy or, an exercise in financial madness?
1.) 03 Jul 2025 06:22:21
Everyone on a 7 year contract, didn’t they one have more players out on loan than in the first team a few years back.
2.) 03 Jul 2025 11:14:41
Pedro has signed an 8 year contract!
We have difficulty moving unwanted players on, how are they going to shift players who still have 5+ years on their 'good' contracts.
19 Jun 2025 15:37:05
I see that the winner of that mega jackpot on the Euromillions draw, 250,000,000 euros has come forward and is from Ireland.
Haven't seen Ken on here for a couple of days.
Is it? Could it be?
If so how about buying a couple of top players and lending them to us!
1.) 19 Jun 2025 16:07:25
????.
2.) 19 Jun 2025 16:26:11
Or just buy Sancho off us!
3.) 19 Jun 2025 16:44:46
Maybe I got it right!
Just seen that we, apparently, have put an increased offer in for Mbeumo today. In excess of £60m, very close to agreeing deal (hopefully) Personally feel it is more important to get these two No10s than a striker.
If you have plenty of bullets being supplied you do not always need the biggest gun.
4.) 19 Jun 2025 18:20:27
I wonder if it would cheer him up at all.
5.) 19 Jun 2025 18:39:26
May not need the biggest gun, but you still need a gun, we have no guns at all!
6.) 19 Jun 2025 18:43:46
AJH ?.
7.) 19 Jun 2025 20:34:55
Germ, yes we do.
8.) 19 Jun 2025 21:59:59
Never been that lucky iwotb.
But very happy with my lot. In a very privileged position of being able to go where I want do what i want when I want and some nasty health scares behind me a healthy family and zero personal worries I wouldn't swap places with anybody.
9.) 19 Jun 2025 22:07:43
Doubt you'll every find anybody more content than me ajh.
10.) 20 Jun 2025 00:25:42
Very glad to hear that Ken, not many people are able to articulate such positivity and contentment.
If you do get lucky and don't want the stress of dealing with it all, would be happy to take it off your hands if it would help. ?.
11.) 20 Jun 2025 05:58:08
Trophy, well where are they then, because I not seen none for at least 3 seasons! Maybe 5
All we have is cap guns…… if you remember does.
12.) 20 Jun 2025 10:29:16
What you should of looked for is the bullets, it does not matter what or who you have if they are not given sufficient opportunities.
Anyway, why are you concerned, you are no Utd supporter so what interest is it of yours.
03 Jun 2025 21:02:41
One thing I really want to see more of and indeed can believe SJR want's to use more is performance related contract's.
I'm fed up of hearing about having to pay huge sums of money on a weekly basis to what can only be described as failures, obviously a contract entered into needs to be honoured BUT a contract is a 2 way agreement, they get paid wheelbarrows full of cash and in return the player supposedly gives a certain standard of performance.
If they fail to reach that minimum standard or indeed do not reach agreed K. P. I's then wages should go down and down. I'm sick and tired of rewarding failure.
I would feel embarrassed if I were them.
1.) 03 Jun 2025 21:33:36
I suppose the issue is if other clubs aren't doing this then players aren't going to sign for United if they have choice.
2.) 03 Jun 2025 23:41:53
If you have belief in your ability to perform, it shouldn't scare you. It would certainly concentrate the mind, also if you really perform then you could earn more.
If one club start's implementing them, trust me, others will be very happy to follow suit.
3.) 04 Jun 2025 00:10:33
They do have element of performancenin many contracts I believe. All sorts of adders. First team appearances, goals, assist. Etc.
But good luck signing a player without a decent amount in base wages.
We all hear about the players on the highest contracts. When they are youth players breaking into the first team we also keep them on low wages compared to other first team players. How much are Dorgue, Yoro, Amad, Mainoo, Garnacho etc on compared to Shaw, fernandes, casemiro, mount etc.
Successful clubs make a lot of money off these players, and the players quite rightly want their share as they are the main product being sold.
4.) 04 Jun 2025 01:04:49
What it would mean is that any player that comes wants to play for United. I would take them any day of the week over the money grabbers.
5.) 04 Jun 2025 06:50:07
That would be easy Keefy, because no one would come apart from worse dross than we currently have!
6.) 04 Jun 2025 09:22:32
All we want is players who play for the shirt. Whether or not it includes bonuses is irrelevant. Give one hundred percent and if you do t succeed at least you know you have given it your best shot and the fans will know it too.
7.) 04 Jun 2025 11:50:50
Sure, there may be some personal incentives built into contracts, but bonuses over base must in part be based on the team rather individual success. It's a team game. The base has to be enough to attract the quality needed. It's not the player's fault that our club has been so inept at recruitment and overpaying both initially and on contract renewals when the performance does not justify it. The primary onus is on the club management to do better.
30 May 2025 12:57:59
Don't know why no one is talking about Dusan Vlahovic, Juve want him sold, rumours he is available for circa £30m.
Seems right type of striker, strong, physical, decent goal scorer and experienced. Even short term would be a reasonable buy.
1.) 30 May 2025 14:37:43
Perfect for premier league.
2.) 30 May 2025 17:47:01
I said this a few weeks back and was shot down. Apparently not good enough for us?!
I think he’d be a shrewd signing.
3.) 30 May 2025 19:09:04
Considering he's only scored over 10 league goals once for juventus he's not the best. Better than what we have mind.
I Want Our Trophy Back's rumour replies
08 Jul 2025 15:50:01
Whilst the rumoured fee of £10m would be well received, do not think it anywhere enough for the potential fall out.
The press love to make up anything possible to attack us. Imagine the consequences of seeing behind the scenes and how they would present it.
It would also be hugely disruptive to the daily routines of all concerned.
Offer us £100m and we'll maybe think again.
07 Jul 2025 16:44:57
Actually Ken, if you had checked, you would know he has 3 toes on his LEFT foot and can't kick with his RIGHT. Research is all?
Seemingly a very good and elegant young midfielder with a release clause of 100m euros, although allegedly available for a lot less.
Who knows!
06 Jul 2025 14:12:20
Ken, you are just making things up to confuse people. It does not work like that.
05 Jul 2025 21:06:56
Ken, what are you talking about.
Yes, I do read the accounts.
Your post is clearly a somewhat vainglorious attempt at obfuscation and deflection, what's all this about associated costs, they are dealt with in a normal business manner.
You talk of agent's fees, well as you know these are amortised along with the transfer fee and represent a very small amount of the transaction.
Your sole explanation of why my post is wrong is 'it does not work like that'. First of all it does work that way and secondly how does it work then? You offer no explanation merely stating 'you are making stuff up'.
Now, for the final time, if we credit the accounts with £25m approx from sell on clauses that is net profit. If we purchase players at roughly £100m and then charge the accounts with an amortised sum of approx £25m, from an accounting and regulatory standpoint that is acceptable. This figure could, of course be reduced if you amortise over 5 years
You also ask where does next year's £25m come from, I find that a somewhat surprising question as clearly it comes in exactly the same way all amortised payments do, that is from next year's earnings. As you know this is normal business practice.
Now, clearly what I have said is true and you coming back with 'that's not how it work's' does not constitute a valid rebuttal.
I would hope this to be end of the matter, any continuation could lead to the conclusion, by some, that you are unable to accept reality and argue simply for the sake of it. Surely not!
05 Jul 2025 15:44:31
He was terrific at Villa, but according to all reports has been very poor at Juve, hence them looking to sell.
If it happens we shall have to hope we get old Luiz.
Tend to agree a bit with Shappy, not totally sure he is the ideal fit for Bruno.
There is much talk we are after Fabian Ruiz of PSG, he is a fabulous player, but again not sure he would be a good fit for Bruno, he's great at advancing the ball but not great defensively. Surely we need someone good at that aspect of play.
I Want Our Trophy Back's banter replies
10 Jul 2025 21:45:44
Grim, Chelsea sold their women's team last summer (2024) but the Premier League had reduced the maximum period of amortisation to 5 years the previous year (2023)
Although they could no longer extend the period of amortisation, the selling of their own team, which may be acceptable to the Premier League, would seem to me to be nothing more than a deliberate ploy to circumvent the rules.
They are still giving these long contract's, Joao Pedro has signed an 8 yr deal. Wonder why are they giving such long deal's, doesn't really make sense.
07 Jul 2025 16:31:24
2toms, they both clearly have stated they only want to play for Manchester United, indeed Mbuemo has reportedly reduced his salary demands to achieve this, think it a bit disingenuous to say that.
You are the one who implied player's do not want to come to us and I think that to be wrong. There always has been, and always will be some who do not want to come, but Manchester United is and always will be a massive draw for many top player's.
You talk of plan C, who knows what that to be, moves for all these top striker's have yet to happen anyway, so let's see.
Why are you believing these stories re DCL? All that has happened is his agent has offered him to us, along with many other's. He tells the press and hey ho all sort's of nonsense get's printed, and the result is this ridiculous over reaction.
The situation is clearly fluid so we need to wait and see what actually happens. There may well be ultimate reason to complain, but deal with that when it happens.
07 Jul 2025 15:55:53
Dear God Almighty, the end of the world must be nigh. I fully agree with what German has just said! never before has such an occurrence taken place.
If people say they understand the financial situation we are facing, yet want RA supported, which clearly everyone does, then suggest a realistic method of achieving this.
The stuff on here yesterday was, at best, disappointing. It seems to be almost a preference to complain. It was said on here yesterday that it has been 2 months since the bid for Mbuemo was made, it is actually 4 weeks and a couple of day's! We all want it completed asap, but who knows what is actually happening? We will probably end up paying pretty much what they originally said they wanted, but we may obtain far better term's for a payment schedule, which could affect other moves.
If we were a week from season start then, yes, have a moan. I will too, but it's 6 weeks (yesterday) until the first game. Only today have SOME of the player's turned up at Carrington for pre season. What practical difference would there be if signings had been made week's ago?
Do you really think the club would not want matter's to be further advanced?
I really hope some sanity can return as I don't think agreeing with German is something I can endure again!
06 Jul 2025 17:59:24
2toms, would that be the same Arsenal who both Cunha and Mbuemo rejected because they both only want to play for Manchester United?
They also rejected Spurs and Newcastle, what does that tell you?
06 Jul 2025 14:56:06
1) Delap, for choosing Chelsea.
2) Gyokeres, for choosing Arsenal.