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16 Jun 2024 12:32:54
Just wondering if anyone on here would take Ian Maatsen for the £35m release clause?

Ork

{Ed002's Note - It does not work like that. The fee is an option that Borussia Dortmund can buy the player for after his loan.}


1.) 16 Jun 2024 13:53:00
With respect Ed002, I've not seen any reference to that 'option' anywhere, but have seen every reference to the £35m price being a release clause (including two that specifically state this clause applying to any club) .

Any idea if he has a clause that would relate to United?

{Ed002's Note - That figure is from the loan contract between Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund. There are other interested sides, but not Manchester United.}


2.) 19 Jun 2024 20:49:12
Off to Villa?


 

 

14 Apr 2024 14:50:13
Apparently, along with Bayern, we're having 'concrete' discussions with Frimpong's camp.

Personally, I don't think we should bother wasting our time - he surely won't leave a title-winning club for what is essentially a mid-table club in the midst of wholesale change.
I don't think he'll go to Bayern either though.

Real Madrid are looking at new defenders and I reckon he'll follow Alphonso Davies from Germany to offer a frightening extra dynamic to their game.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt we're even an attractive prospect for Matty Cash if not for the, erm, cash.

Ork

1.) 14 Apr 2024 15:28:41
Good to see some positivity.


2.) 14 Apr 2024 15:58:05
Frimpong has had a phenomenal year at Leverkusen absolutely no doubt about it. However, I've often said a big problem with our recruitment is we sign players who are playing well in a totally different tactical set up to what we play.

Frimpong is a talented player without a doubt, but his current form is only possible because he is playing in a system that maximises his strengths and minimises hie weaknesses.

The 343 system suits him perfectly as it gives him the extra player in defence to cover his defensive shortcomings, while the front three means he's able to double up with the wide forward (Wirtz) to find space on either the over or underlap.

Unless we are hiring a manager who will employ a 343 type formation then it seems foolish to sign a player who has only ever thrived in that sort of team set up.


3.) 14 Apr 2024 16:11:53
Shappy’s right. We should be looking to sign players who are currently playing for teams with no tactical set up. That way, they can slot right in. Am fed up of this square pegs for round holes approach. We need players who can perform for a tactically naive manager.


4.) 14 Apr 2024 18:39:04
That's what we did with mount. Played 10 or a little wide right for Chelsea but eth wants him to play in a position he never played before. I don't think that's smart I'm not saying it can't be a success but it's an odd way to go about it imo.


5.) 14 Apr 2024 19:07:39
Rather fed up with this season now; bring on the Summer to ship out unsuitable players and bring in new faces that help us build towards success.

Hopefully - PSR and wheeler-dealing allowing - see some new players coming in.

The peerless Ed002 has already suggested that the following players might be our preferred targets:

Antonio Silva (CB)

João Neves (DM/ CM)

Denzel Dumfries (RB)

Furthermore, the Muppetiers (who some mistrust as click-bait, but generally seem well-informed), have suggested the following preferences also:

Jarrod Branthwaite (CB)

Jean-Clair Todibo (CB)

Andre Onana (DM)

Morten Hjulmand (DM)

Michael Olise (RW)

Benjamin Sesko (S)

Plus a focus on younger talents from South America.

All of these look like they would cost a lot of money, so just hope INEOS can raise lots of funds through plater sales and wages saved.

If cheaper options are needed as a result of limited funds and the sheer number of positions that need addressing, wondering if:

Anyone has heard of cheaper/ lesser known options we might be looking at?

Younger players at United who might be promoted to the first team squad?


6.) 14 Apr 2024 21:36:35
At the moment we are a long long way off challenging for a league again. 3 or 4 seasons realistically and that's getting the recruitment right every window. We seem to be getting the correct people in place to make the right signings. Top of the list aswell has to be to stop giving wannabe fashion designer rappers 300k a week . We seem to get it wrong so many times with signings compared to Liverpool and City who very rarely get it wrong.


7.) 14 Apr 2024 21:53:27
We're hardly a midtable club are we.
Sometimes reading people's thoughts is both amusing and baffling.
We have had a poor season, yet. we've also been through a protracted buyout of a portion of the club, a buyout that will bring fresh ideas and direction, something that is already starting to play out. We've also had a few injuries to contend with (although I think a squad should be able to work through these when the setup is right, see first point as to why we've struggled here) and lastly, we struggled to get rid of players deemed 'surplus to requirements' last summer, again see point one as to why this occurred.

The new owners are literally going to bring a night and day scenario to next season, in my opinion.

It is for that reason that, if Frimpong is the right person for the role we are scouting (not saying he is or isn't), then I firmly believe Manchester United is very much a big pull.
As an example, let's assume Villa make the top 4, do you think Villa in the CL is a bigger pull than Manchester United after an off season?


8.) 15 Apr 2024 00:00:25
U agree with a lot if that jimbo.
I'm not so sure we will see a night and day approach with the financial restrictions.
They will only be able to work within the rules and we have quite a financial impact to work off due to the haphazard rudderless spending.
We can only take so many hits on the books and it often makes more sense financially and to stay within the rules to keep a player rather than sell them at an unsustainable loss age taking into account all the associated costs of a transfer which are substantial.
I'm not well read on the regulations so can't give any informed opinion on what they need to do to navigate them whisky getting as close to night and day as possible.
Here's to hoping.


9.) 15 Apr 2024 04:22:58
That's why I think it will be night and day.
Write off the no hopers, even if it restricts us, to the point we are backed into a corner financially, meaning we will both, promote from within, and only sign people who understand the longer term vision.


10.) 15 Apr 2024 10:23:33
This is where our new scouting and acquisition team can earn their stripes.
Take the plight of Alex Grimaldo, who was a free transfer to Leverkusen at the start of the season. Now one of the most desirable full-backs in Europe.
The signings are out there, but we rarely find them. I'll stand by Cantona as being our biggest ever bargain. Leeds couldn't get rid of him quickly enough and the rest is history.


 

 

26 Mar 2024 13:23:57
Anybody know if TyC Sports is a credible source of news from Argentina?

Only asking because the rumours surrounding this Anselmino lad are getting louder.

Is there real traction or is this just yet another dubious outlet?

Ork

{Ed002's Note - Aaron Anselmino (C) Braga and Benfica have been regularly scouting Boca Juniors games and together with Milan have identified multiple targets including Anselmino. Interest from Manchester United will halt with the player being ineligible for a Work Permit in England and wanting to stay Buenos Aires with his family.}


1.) 26 Mar 2024 14:40:10
Cheers Ed002.


 

 

15 Mar 2024 14:49:53
£35m bid for Sancho might come from Dortmund apparently.

Yes or no?

Ork

1.) 15 Mar 2024 17:15:35
Bite their hands off.


2.) 15 Mar 2024 20:36:12
The entire city? That’s a lot of hands.


3.) 15 Mar 2024 23:15:36
10 times as many fingers oh and thumbs. I feel the need to be inclusive.


4.) 16 Mar 2024 03:02:30
If we can get £30m for him and his salary off the books, that's the equivalent of £60m to the bottom line over 2 years. I wouldn't offer him any compensation for loss of salary. Play hardball.


5.) 16 Mar 2024 06:28:08
30m plus a player we might want even better!


6.) 16 Mar 2024 13:31:54
I'd take £35 for him.


7.) 16 Mar 2024 15:59:32
Good idea Shaw ?‍♂️. See where that got us with martial and maguire.
He ain't walking away from millions nor should he.


 

 

14 Jan 2024 14:10:03
I've just read a piece about the prospect of Alvaro going to Benfica making it an easier win for the signature of Joao Neves - I sincerely hope this is rubbish.

If this is true, then the sheer arrogance that has made us look ridiculous for years still hasn't left.

I'd be stunned if he came to United at all, but the suggested 'offering' of a youngster given no gametime by the club as some kind of sweetener is pathetically desperate at best.

Ork

1.) 14 Jan 2024 14:29:35
I think developing a good relationship with Benfica is an excellent idea.

The generate so many quality players, smart move.

Silva and Neves are both targets and huge talents, we really need to develop and edge in the transfer market.

Alvaro Fernandez isn’t ready or good enough right now, and we have plenty of LBs at the club. Whilst I don’t agree with decision to Loan him and sign Regullion, tbf he performed when needed.


2.) 14 Jan 2024 15:54:57
Why is it bad business if Utd can come an arrangement with Benfica that benefits both parties.

I'm not saying that this is what is happening, but it does make sense.


3.) 14 Jan 2024 20:13:33
I was impressed with Fernandez tbh. We don’t have a wealth of left back’s and I’m surprised we’ve let him go. That said, the coaching staff will have seen him every day and will no doubt know more than us.


4.) 15 Jan 2024 11:31:53
Maybe the lad wants to play some football. Benfica are a huge club with a great reputation for building careers. Why not go there rather than not even getting on the bench at Utd or going back to Preston?


5.) 15 Jan 2024 14:09:44
Utd don't exactly have a great reputation at the moment for mapping out youth players careers.

I rate Fernandez, but going to Benfica is a really good move for him.


6.) 15 Jan 2024 16:37:31
Well could be worse ork they could put you in charge?
You've no idea of any of the facts but have decided it's ridiculous.
Do you know how ridiculous that is?


7.) 16 Jan 2024 20:26:22
João Neves looks a real top prospect, however, personally I'm not sure he's a player we should be chasing this summer.

Coming from Benfica you can be assured he'd cost something north of 80m. For a 19 year old with less than 40 professional games under his belt who has never played in a league as physical or competitive as the EPL that's a huge amount to gamble on him.

We also have the 18 year old Kobbie Mainoo in our squad who's arguably been out beat midfielder this season. I'm not sure Mainoo and Neves form a natural and complementary duo, and I'd be very surprised to see any manager regularly play two teenagers in the heart of midfield for United or for any team expecting to play regular UCL football.

Given our need to buy players who are ready to step up and play every week right now at the sharp end of the EPL, and the need bring in 5-6 players this summer I really can't see us spending the kind of money João Neves would cost on a young, unproven play like Neves.

Let's take a leaf out of Liverpool's book, they could have pushed for the 100m signing of star young midfielder Jude Bellingham last summer. But realised they needed to sign several players and couldn't afford to buy Bellingham AND the other players they needed so I stead they bought 4 midfielders and totally rebuilt their midfield.

I think signing 2-3 midfielders is the smarter option for us given the massive squad rebuild we need than spending big on one player who might not even be ready for the step up.

We kind of did that last summer in the striker department. Spent big on a young player who has massive potential but probably isn't ready to play every week for us. The difference is the striker market has far fewer good options and is massively overpriced. We should be able to scout 3 or 4 really top drawer midfielders who wouldn't cost the earth but would help totally change our side for the better.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2024 21:10:32
Surely this could be a fan's song for Yoro.

To the tune of 'Maybe Tomorrow' by Terry Bush - 'He's Leny Yoro'.

Ork

 

 

18 Jul 2024 12:36:23
Just wondering what the likelihood is that United start looking at Kiwior?

Left-footed CB who can operate adequately at LB. With both Martinez and Shaw each having injury-ravaged seasons, the concerns are perfectly valid, and with Arsenal chasing Calafiori, I wonder if they'd bite if United made, say, a £25m offer for a very good defender who is thoroughly underappreciated by his club?

Obviously, we'd need to sell first ourselves, but I think he'd be a very astute purchase.

What say yous?

Ork

1.) 18 Jul 2024 13:43:43
No thanks.

Watched him get rinsed v Bayern this year. Wouldn't go near him.


2.) 18 Jul 2024 13:59:38
Not me. Not at the level we’re after.


 

 

18 Jul 2024 03:08:07
While my buzz for the coming season is growing, I have a feeling something brilliant will be unlocked.

I predict that Ruud will refine the talent in Garnacho this season and create a monster.

What are your predictions?

Ork

1.) 18 Jul 2024 05:10:16
I will go on a limb here and say rash will have a big season and onana will be excellent Gulp:)


2.) 18 Jul 2024 05:30:28
Depends on Licha, if he stays fit the whole season, then the defence will look a bit more solid.

The biggest improvement needs to be up front. United have been far too goal shy over the last few years, we have added Zirkzee, will that be enough?


3.) 18 Jul 2024 05:33:41
That we will have half the injuries of last season and as a result half the defeats.


4.) 18 Jul 2024 06:51:30
That we will be a lot better than last year. Score more goals let in less and finish comfortably in top 4 with a couple of good cup runs.
I've zero faith in the manager but will go into the season in the hope that I'm proven wrong.
The signings are unproven players at epl level but we are signing potential so need them to hit the ground running.
Still lots of players to determine their futures and a couple more to come in minimum, so it's too early to say if we will win the league. ?.


5.) 18 Jul 2024 08:50:11
Two strikers rotating upfront will make a big difference. Many games last year we just had nothing to change it from the bench.

Also expect us to play a higher defensive line, closing the gaps in midfield and freeing Onana to play his sweeping role that he played previously.

Hoping we can stay clear of these mass injuries that caused such issues last year.


6.) 18 Jul 2024 08:54:28
Well ruud loved the ball into the box and atm our wingers/ inside forwards do not deliver

Hopefully he can make them aware of what a striker likes and we start to see better end products.


7.) 18 Jul 2024 09:02:45
Title charge ?.


8.) 18 Jul 2024 09:14:19
I hope I am proven wrong and ETH is indeed a managerial legend.

Maguire to gain some pace
Antony to grow a right foot
Rashford to grow a heart

Okay seriously…….

Strikers to get service

Less excuses and more action and most importantly no social/ social media faux pas!


9.) 18 Jul 2024 09:17:49
I’ve not seen anything as yet to make me think this season will be a lot different to last season.

At the moment, based on what players have come in and gone out I wouldn’t be surprised to see ETH under severe pressure or even gone around Xmas time.

Signing a new striker won’t solve the not scoring problem. You need to create chances for them in the first instance, that was the major issue last season.

We’ve only signed one new CB, an untested 18 year old. To play alongside Martinez who we hope stays fit. As soon as one of those two gets injured, suspended or loses form we are back to Maguire and Lindelof/ Evans.

And then we have decent no cover at left back for Shaw who can’t stay fit. Once he’s out the whole left side fails.

We still need new midfielders. Nobody to anchor the midfield, Cas can’t do it anymore. And you can’t play Mainoo for the entire season, he’s still very young and needs time off before he burns out. We can’t play the likes of McT in there if we want to challenge near the top.

Without a strong midfield and back line we will continue to give up 20+ chances each and every game.

This is all based on the transfer window as we are today. This could all dramatically change before the season starts.

But at the moment other than blind optimism I don’t see how the team’s performance will be that different to last season.

That’s my glass half empty view. If you’d prefer a glass half full perspective, then don’t worry guys, Rashford will be back in form, there won’t be many injuries and we will easily finish top 4.


10.) 18 Jul 2024 09:39:56
I was having a similar conversation with my 11 year old boy and we came to the conclusion that our improvements will come from:
- Back 5 will improve with less injuries and better skilled players on the ball. We will see the real Onana as well who does not need to hit the ball long all the time
- Midfield will improve with a better player at HM with good fitness allowing Mainoo, Fenandes, whoever else to be more progressive and push higher up the pitch
- Attack will improve with a better second option at striker and Hojlund into second season. Solving the right side, whether that is new player, giving the position to Garnacho or Amad develops.
- Selling the dead wood - we have so many players that we can move on without impacting the first team. We will need to fill the gap with new players or develop from the youth teams. But, big wages on players not benefiting the team

Could be an exciting year.


11.) 18 Jul 2024 10:26:03
Most of all I just want to enjoy watching my team again. Other than the FA Cup Final it's been a long time. I'd rather see them play really well and lose than be completely uninspiring and draw half their games.
Predictions? I think like many managers' remits Erik's will be top 4 and a cup. So that's what I'm hoping for. Should be an exciting season as there are a good half a dozen teams at least who are capable of that.


12.) 18 Jul 2024 12:08:48
To me midfield is still a big problem. Still no defensive enforcer and no one to replace or help Bruno as and when needed.

City have not really flexed their financial muscle yet and if this is Peps final season he will want to go out on a high

Liverpool will surely sign more players to add to an already good squad

Arsenal likewise

Villa have already shown their intent

Spurs yet to really do anything but surely will aim to get into the champions league

So overall whilst I am hopeful that Utd will improve hugely with their new signings I think it is going to be very difficult to break into the top four.


13.) 18 Jul 2024 14:06:27
Absolutely no reason why we can’t improve dramatically next season. The initial signings, and the way we’ve gone about our business so far, is really encouraging. I’d just like the bulk of our players to stay fit so that we can get a decent benchmark of exactly where we are.


14.) 18 Jul 2024 15:33:39
We seem to be going for younger profile players, which I am very happy about. This of course will require patience from fans as these players grow into their potential.

We look like we will have a very strong young core that we will be building around. I like that approach mich better than trying to bring in older more expensive stars who are negotiating their last big contract.

Would like ugarte and de ligt next, and to see some more of the older generation leave.


15.) 18 Jul 2024 16:26:15
I don’t really have a prediction, but if I could choose what happened this summer and season I would ask for all players that offer nothing to be sold (Lindelof, Maguire maybe, Casemiro, Eriksen, Pellistri, Sancho, Antony, Greenwood, Rashford if the money was right), more players to be added along with Zirkzee and Yoro (another CB, a RB if AWB goes, CM x 2 and a wide player if Sancho and Rashford leave) .

Promote some more younger players and secure a top 4 finish with some good cup runs and maybe a piece of silverware. Then next summer get a new LB and RB as i really don’t like Dalot defensively and fill any other positions that this seasons shows we need to upgrade in.

Not much to ask.


16.) 19 Jul 2024 05:57:27
Brendan. You been playing Championship Manager again!?


 

 

27 Jun 2024 16:37:12
In light of the recent rumours, along with his previous dual role at Utrecht, I wonder if the prospective appointment of Rene Hake could be to fulfil similar duties at United - working as a Sporting Director in addition to a place in the coaching setup - or to actually come in solely as an alternative to Dan Ashworth?

I know it might sound daft, but would it really be a surprise for United to make a mess of a process in hoping to gather all the eggs for their basket only to then opt for a different angle?

Ork

1.) 27 Jun 2024 20:47:38
Ork

Not sure how you are looking at Rene Hak as a Dan Ashworth replacement. One thing has nothing to do with the other.



Just catching up on the news and here is my personal view of things and can be very wrong.

1. Its Blatantly obvious the club is keeping so many things close to their chest and unlike previous years we are not swiss cheese for leaks. Ugarte, Van Nistle Roy and now Rene Hak are examples of stuff that had nothing floating around in the press prior to these stories breaking.
2. We will not get hung by any single player interest and it seems we have no issues moving on and have multiple multiple stuff going on in various areas.
3. We have money to spend but will not do it like we have done in the past.
4. ETh is the guy to take us forward and if you wanted any justification see what ralf ragnik is doing with Austria and wonder why he looked toothless with us. You have to wonder about the players in this united squad and its not the managers. Austria most recognized player is Alaba, who is not even playing and injured I believe.
5. Expect a lot more surprises by the time its all said and done and wait and see but quite optimistic on things.


2.) 27 Jun 2024 23:40:11
Benny Mccarthy leaving ahmad, think a few owe you an apology.


3.) 28 Jun 2024 05:22:11
GDS2

I get grief for sharing stuff you get from the club or some players and used to it lol. I have no idea what is going on with transfers but knew he was gone and for various reasons, he did very poorly in the review. Don't believe the reports that the striker group is going to be upset or eth is upset either. It's not true and believe rvp will be taking that role if he joins.

Same thing with someone like Branthwaite, he is/ was an affordable target but has never been our number one target as people like to report it. If we are going to pay much higher for a CB there are others who will come in before he does if we can get them.


4.) 28 Jun 2024 15:18:16
ahmad

I'm not looking at him for that role - I suspect he'd be out of his depth, I just wondered whether the club would.

In SJR, I trust. If ten Hag's his man, I trust that decision. If he wants Ruud and Rene to come in while Benni gets shown the door, I trust those decisions.

What I don't trust is the media.
Unfortunately, very little noise is coming from the club regarding Ashworth. I get they can't really say much at all, nor can he - or rather nor should he, so I can only absorb what I read as I'm not privy to a thing - hence the wondering.

I mean, I'm sure there are some who might wonder if there's merit to the suggestion that Mason Greenwood might be casting a dark shadow over the Women's team, perhaps moreso now with the apparent exodus of the kind of player who isn't as likely to clutch their face as if their eyes have popped simply because someone pinched their elbow or exhaled too violently.

There's lots of 'insider information' bandied about everywhere, from the media to Dave down the pub - 99.99999% of it is garbage. We've recently seen the idek2346 entity on here stating things as if facts when they've been chatting utter balls.

The point is - I know absolutely nish. As such, I can do little but wonder when the only information I see is on here or in whatever idiot room some journo has led me to.

I'm not looking at Hake as a solution to the Ashworth conundrum, I'm simply wondering.
Can I mitigate that? Absolutely I can, but it means little beyond a motion in the mind of someone not in the loop.

And still I wonder, what would life be like if we all had beaks?


5.) 28 Jun 2024 21:58:08
ORK

I think Ashworth gets done one way or another and its a matter of time and money. NC are being difficult as the number they are asking for is silly and so outlandish.

There is a lot of bs written everyday on united. A lot of it is noise. I could write a shappy style post on quite a few interesting stuff but don't want the grief lol.


 

 

27 May 2024 02:23:24
What a game that was.

Watched it at home, soaked myself with beer when Kobbie scored, got the dog with some (he still hasn't forgiven me), danced around the lounge like a feral upon the final whistle, then spent the whole evening getting pickled with a proper cheshire on my face again.

Thank you Erik, thank you.

Ork

1.) 27 May 2024 08:27:42
Love to hear it Ork, that’s what it’s all about ?.


2.) 27 May 2024 09:40:30
For all the frustration I have with Erik. My 2-year-old watched the game in full and was bouncing about when we scored.

He’s now got the bug.

So whatever happens with him, he’s always given me that memory.


3.) 27 May 2024 12:17:38
I can remember the Brighton and Everton cup finals when I was young and how good I felt.

All my earliest memories though date back to Bryan Robson in 81 and watching him as a young kid at OT with relatives. How Sir Bobby was always in awe of Duncan Edwards, I will always be I awe of Robbo, he will always be my hero, no one ever on a football pitch will compare in my eyes. I hope your kids find those memories from united.

My youngest is a bit older and he adores Bruno however Kobbie is taking his place quickly as his hero, next years shirts have all been requested with Mainoo.

Even with a season like this there isn't no feeling like watching United with friends and family.

Now the season has ended I can foolishly hope next year everything clicks. GGMU.


4.) 27 May 2024 12:25:17
It certainly was Ork, A great end to a poor season and i think we all got a little pickled on saturday night.


5.) 27 May 2024 19:02:52
Jim Repear,

We certainly did haha.


 

 

 

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22 Jul 2024 05:04:05
No, what Real are doing is taking the p*** out of other clubs.

They're basically saying 'You crack on spending years helping to develop and nurture talent and, when we feel the time is right, we'll swagger over and bully you into a corner. '

Nobody earns the level of influence to go around acting like a w⚓️ towards everyone else, what utter BS that is.

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18 Jul 2024 20:39:49
Bugger, I missed.
Can I still call you Gladys?

Oh yeah, it seems like our club is no longer the shambles with custard it was before SJR came in.

Next one please.

Ork

 

 

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09 Jul 2024 05:20:11
WRD

Won't be happening.

He apparently 'wants' the move, but he won't make things difficult for Everton, presumably because he knows that City would certainly pay that requested fee for yet another left-footed CB next summer.

United need to drop that bid, wait for the deserved rejection, and just move on. Imagine we haggle on this all summer and don't get it over the line because Everton are doing precisely what they should, then what?

As great a prospect as Branthwaite is, there is better value out there - Arsenal's next signing Calafiori being a great example.

United need to box clever and doing the routine 'United' dance this summer will certainly give fans reason enough to get irritated.
If SJR's reign is different, then we move on after this bid.

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02 Jul 2024 13:26:21
De Ligt would be a very good signing imo.
In terms of injuries - I'll put the statto hat on.

De Ligt has, since season 2020/ 21 which alone saw 119 days missed through recovery from significant shoulder surgery and contracting Covid, he has missed 245 days of football - with more than half that (143 days) being inclusive of 2 significant surgery recovery periods.

Since 2020/ 21:
Martinez has missed 343 days with 2 significant injuries with subsequent recoveries from surgery taking 182 days, leaving 161 days.
Maguire, 166 days with no significant surgeries.
Lindelof, 171 days.
Evans, 409 days.
Furthermore:
Varane, 250 days.

So, when people say he's injury prone, I'd say he's faring far better than what we already have and, at £42m, would be an absolute steal in today's market.

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29 Jun 2024 17:03:26
Ugarte is an excellent player who would be a perfectly adequate foil for Mainoo.

However, the suggested interest from Liverpool is concerning.
He'd walk into their midfield as well and they're in the CL - we could only offer better money.

Fingers are crossed though.

Ork

 

 

 

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19 Jul 2024 11:59:53
Good ol' Moshiri - what a dodgy muppet. One blaggard leads the club into a darkened backroom full of even dodgier blaggards and now some other invitees have barricaded the room to keep all the blaggards locked in with each other.

Hopefully Everton will formally retire the number 777 shirt by consigning it to a furnace.

As for the club's resolve concerning Branthwaite - this might only trim the price by £10m or so if anything at all - for now.

From my understanding, there could be many legal implications none of us are aware of so United and many other clubs might start circling the club like vultures - again!
Everton fans must be absolutely raging.

Ed025
I know you might not want to comment, but you must be steaming, no?

Ork

{Ed025's Note - im not happy Ork thats for certain, just when it looked like there was light at the end of the tunnel it has been switched off again mate, i dont think its the end of the story though as im sure other investors will want to throw their hand in...but its certainly a kick in the nuts..


 

 

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19 Jul 2024 03:59:45
Ugarte is certainly a different type of player to Casemiro.
While the latter is more physically dominant and a little better at reading the game, the former is a far more aggressive and busy player who should offer more to the high press.

Just imagine how scary the triumvirate of Licha The Butcher, Leny The Bulldozer and Manu The Piston could be - ?.

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04 Jul 2024 15:28:11
The pertinent conditions and pressures at United are very different to those at Newcastle so the roles will carry different responsibilities and different scales of priority.

Mitchell would have been available to United during the time it took to get Ashworth on board so, ultimately, SJR pursued the option he decided would best fit the strategy required at United.

I'd imagine SJR to be far more successful in business than any of us so it's a bit arrogant for any of us to suggest that Mitchell, for the actual nature of the role, would be the better option?

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03 Jul 2024 11:11:06
Oh yeah, I love a challenge.

I believe our feathered friend might be referring to Chiesa at Juve and the Mkhitaryan/ Sanchez swap deal.

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28 Jun 2024 15:18:16
ahmad

I'm not looking at him for that role - I suspect he'd be out of his depth, I just wondered whether the club would.

In SJR, I trust. If ten Hag's his man, I trust that decision. If he wants Ruud and Rene to come in while Benni gets shown the door, I trust those decisions.

What I don't trust is the media.
Unfortunately, very little noise is coming from the club regarding Ashworth. I get they can't really say much at all, nor can he - or rather nor should he, so I can only absorb what I read as I'm not privy to a thing - hence the wondering.

I mean, I'm sure there are some who might wonder if there's merit to the suggestion that Mason Greenwood might be casting a dark shadow over the Women's team, perhaps moreso now with the apparent exodus of the kind of player who isn't as likely to clutch their face as if their eyes have popped simply because someone pinched their elbow or exhaled too violently.

There's lots of 'insider information' bandied about everywhere, from the media to Dave down the pub - 99.99999% of it is garbage. We've recently seen the idek2346 entity on here stating things as if facts when they've been chatting utter balls.

The point is - I know absolutely nish. As such, I can do little but wonder when the only information I see is on here or in whatever idiot room some journo has led me to.

I'm not looking at Hake as a solution to the Ashworth conundrum, I'm simply wondering.
Can I mitigate that? Absolutely I can, but it means little beyond a motion in the mind of someone not in the loop.

And still I wonder, what would life be like if we all had beaks?

Ork