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13 May 2025 15:43:07
There are noises off that Sheik Jassim is coming back with a full buy package in the near future. I didn't realise that there was a drag along rights clause in SJR's minority purchase which will make that scenario interesting if it happens.
For supporters, not SJR.
It adds another level of complexity to the situation. Would SJR throw a fortune into new players and a new stadium to lose his minority clause to an outright purchase? Interesting times.
And as an aside, I spent a few minutes chatting to an ex Man U forward at OT yesterday who had great, old fashioned views on football in general.
Best quotes?
'I played in the times before footballers began falling over. '
'The weekly wage was minimal, but the win bonus was massive, that's how football worked then, made you fight for it. '.
1.) 14 May 2025 14:22:56
Is he even real? The guy didn't even bother show proof of funds .
2.) 14 May 2025 15:09:31
I’m going to ask as I have no idea. but, is a drag along right a case of if there is a deal made that the majority accepts, the minority shareholder has to accept?
3.) 14 May 2025 19:41:53
Proper old school rumour. Here for it.
4.) 14 May 2025 23:49:28
In principle Keefyb yes.
The Glazers are close to gaining drag-along rights, which would let them force a full sale of Manchester United if a fresh takeover bid comes in. That opens the door for someone like Sheikh Jassim to make a new offer and potentially compel Sir Jim Ratcliffe to sell his minority stake—unless Sir Jim can match the bid himself.
5.) 15 May 2025 11:51:31
Ineos wanted those drag-along rights as far as I know as they get first-refusal. If the Glazers accept an offer and Ineos match it then it goes to Ineos. It's a fairly mutually beneficial arrangement, rather than what's being depicted right now as being much more in the Glazers favour.
6.) 15 May 2025 12:38:13
Don ignorance is bliss.
7.) 16 May 2025 10:42:22
Thank for explaining, I don’t like getting involved in that side of it. But it is very interesting.
01 Feb 2025 11:02:32
Looks like Dorgu's private flight from Milan arrived Manchester 1056.
1.) 01 Feb 2025 12:04:34
Thanks for the update.
2.) 01 Feb 2025 12:35:03
There's a picture of him on the flight Ken, breath of fresh air.
No nose jewels, ear rings, bracelets, necklaces, badged clothing, and best of all, for me, not clutching a Louis Vuitton washbag. Just a very calm looking young professional footballer in a smart fleece jacket waving at the camera. Being only a 90 minute flight away from his family now can only be a help for him settling in. Listening to his coach, he can run all day and doesn't get injured.
Fingers crossed.
3.) 01 Feb 2025 13:59:53
And then he came to United.
4.) 01 Feb 2025 19:15:49
And when I posted Grim, I just knew it would only be a few minutes before someone said that. I just didn't think it best that I should say it!
5.) 03 Feb 2025 02:38:45
De Ligt came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish.
Zirkzee came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish
Hojlund came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish
This is the dumbest statement I have read on this site and I have been visiting for years.
You need to focus on how a player performs, not what they are wearing. The short-sightedness of you united fans is genuinely shocking.
6.) 03 Feb 2025 05:08:51
in addition to this - players should not be scrutinised for what they are wearing, what they drive or the jewellery they have on. they should be able to spend the money they earn how they see fit. i am assuming that your gripe is with how rashford acted/ how he dressed/ who he hung out with. he is entitled to act how he wants in his private life, it is not his fault your club decided he was worth 350k a week. what do you expect he should be doing with all his money - unselfishly helping out poor/ disadvantaged kids? oh wait.
7.) 10 Feb 2025 18:31:21
Endo when he spends his money on nights out on the p*ss in another country and fails to turn up training its an issue for the club. When he is out late when not supposed to be its an issue. I don't care what he wears or how he looks as long as it direct bring him into disrepute. I don't care if he goes to the states on his week off. But if he doesn't train properly then he needs to go. If he plays crap for 18 months then he has to go.
Same for players at your club or any other club. Appreciate your input though.
28 Jan 2025 14:27:51
Looks like Dorgu could be in.
Lecce's newspaper saying 35m Euros with 5 more as addons. 2m salary rising to 3m.
(He had a 4/ 10 game last weekend according to the Italian press. )
And the rumour I posted a could of days ago has developed somewhat. Ayden Heaven has apparently agreed terms for his move from Arsenal.
1.) 28 Jan 2025 17:24:23
Seems the United tax on players is alive and well then.
2.) 28 Jan 2025 20:26:53
He follows the obvious new strategy try and bring in younger players with a lot of potential.
Under INEOS we have signed:
Mazraoui (26), MdL (25), Zirkzee (23), Ugarte (23), Yoro (18), Sekou Kone (18), Chido Obi-Martin (17), Samuel Lusale (17), Diego Leon (17), Ayden Heaven (18) and now Patrick Dorgu (20).
That's 11 signings under the new regime, 7 of them are 20 or younger.
Add that to some of the other talented young players we already had in the first team squad (Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad, Højlund, Collyer) .
Along with an academy with a super talented record breaking group of players that could be looking to break into the first team over the next few years.
3.) 28 Jan 2025 21:42:46
At some point along the line they forgot to add any actual quality for the now.
4.) 28 Jan 2025 23:22:53
Last weekend they played Inter and Dorgu was good, arguably their best player. But they got beat proper by a vastly superior side so difficult to judge. It is the game before that which he was poor.
5.) 29 Jan 2025 00:19:18
Spenno,
Our CEO has explained the plan and what they are aiming to build towards, seems like with the signings we are making now that we are moving away from the silly expensive players on daft wages and getting players in with better attitudes.
6.) 29 Jan 2025 02:20:41
GDS2, I all know that, but I also know none of those signings are going to be remembered for very long.
7.) 29 Jan 2025 07:22:29
Shappy, its the best. Also easier to mould the players, get them all singing of the same hymn sheet. Also allows a better sell on possibility should they not work out. Very positive.
8.) 29 Jan 2025 08:31:17
We clearly overpaid for dorgu, but at least his reported wage is a good deal.
9.) 29 Jan 2025 09:41:32
According to Fav it's €30 mill with €5 mill in not guaranteed add ons. 6ft 1 and supposedly rapidly, with an unreal engine. Will it work out who knows but seems a far more reasonable expenditure than some of our deals in the past. Now it's whether Rash or Garnacho goes as to if anyone else comes in, I think.
10.) 29 Jan 2025 09:42:13
spenno that's a bit too pessimistic. there are some very good players in that list and, with their age profile and salaries, if they don't work out we're likely to be able to recoup the majority of our outlay. that's a considerable improvement.
25 Jan 2025 12:41:06
This morning. Ethan Wheatley to Walsall on loan.
24 Jan 2025 16:11:46
United are reported to have made an approach to talk to Arsenal teenager Ayden Heaven, who apparently wants to leave the Emirates setup. Comes from the same group as Chido Obi Martin who signed for us last month.
Agent Chido? Could be. Ayden was spotted as a guest at OT last night.
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03 Mar 2025 18:02:53
And just when you think it couldn't get any worse. it appears the club have failed to register Chido Obi for the Europas. He's now ineligible.
Utter incompetence.
1.) 03 Mar 2025 18:22:54
Perhaps they thought he wouldn't be needed?
2.) 03 Mar 2025 19:51:58
Everything is becoming headline news. 17 year old who has only just got training time as well as minutes in the first team and was there really a thought at the start of January when team had to be declared that he would get much more than this.
The club is making mistakes, we are at a low point, but we can't kick them for every thing that comes along and make it more than it is.
Hojlund for Europa, Chido for league!
3.) 03 Mar 2025 20:26:52
We won’t be in Europe much longer so it won’t matter much ?.
4.) 03 Mar 2025 21:14:56
It’s not incompetence the kid is 17 years of age and has just only broke into the first team and that’s because of injuries and his cameos may have look promising but let’s not pile the pressure on the kid like us fans tend to do
I’ve forgot myself that Hojland is only 21, Garnacho is only 20, mainoo 19 yoro 18 dorgu 20
I think it’s pretty obvious this squad lacks any senior players to guide them and as much as I sit there shouting or slagging them off when they aren't performing these players are not ready to perform every game
We do have a very good lot of young promising players and you can see with Hojland and Garnacho the pressure of having a bad season is showing they lack 0 confidence
If only they had the likes of keano, Neville, scholes to play along side and train with
But unfortunately years of over spending and stop gap spending has left us where we’re at.
5.) 04 Mar 2025 00:18:14
As Bolger noted nobody could have foreseen the injuries that we have suffered or the poor form of Available strikers. Just one of those things. At the moment everything seems to be against us but the tide will turn. We just have to be patient and support the team til it does.
6.) 04 Mar 2025 10:20:42
To be fair, Rasmus tends to perform better in the European competitions for United. So we might be ok anyway.
Although I do expect United to crash out to Sociedad anyway.
30 Sep 2024 18:43:23
I meant to put it as "if he takes the United job" but omitted the speech captures.
1.) 02 Oct 2024 01:25:24
Personally I don’t care who comes in and who they drop as long as United get back to where they should be.
Old Trafford needs to be a fortress and United need to be a feared team. Currently we are a laughing stock and a good many idealists need to wake up and smell the roses.
30 Sep 2024 18:41:32
In tonight's press there's a bit of noise about Klopp replacing Inzhagi if he takes the United job after ETH takes the OT Taxi.
1.) 30 Sep 2024 20:18:21
Simeone not Filippo I’d hope?
2.) 30 Sep 2024 21:20:22
Its never going to happen. If it happens its someone who is out of work and available and not great options out there.
30 Aug 2024 13:04:06
Our pot for the Europa League.
Rangers, Porto, PAOK, Fenerbahce, Bodo Glimt, Viktoria Plzn, FC Twente and FCSB.
What does everybody think?
If I open my office window, I can hear Jose rubbing his hands together from here.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 13:20:42
Rangers the biggest match there. Will nice to see Fred back at OT.
2.) 30 Aug 2024 13:29:31
away to fenerbache.
3.) 30 Aug 2024 14:22:59
Flak jackets on for the youngsters when they go there Ahmad. That really will be a baptism for them. The South Americans in the team will thrive on it.
4.) 30 Aug 2024 14:28:44
Sorry Ahmad, I went to edit 'will' with 'should' but hit the wrong button. Age thing. I come from the land of Dubbin, 3/ 4 boots and leather studs (hello Redman), only just caught up with Stereo Sound as a concept.
I think I'm supposed to say LOL there, whatever that means.
5.) 30 Aug 2024 14:35:12
Hope Fred doesn’t turn up at OT for any of the games.
Some good games there, some tricky ones but we should comfortably get the 14/ 15 points we need to finish top 8.
6.) 30 Aug 2024 14:48:39
If we play in Europe like last year we would be capable of losing to anyone, however I suspect we will be made of sterner stuff this year and will progress comfortably. This is a tournament we should be going all out to win particularly because doing so guarantees a place in next year's ECL. A decent showing in the league with an improvement in points and goals scored, a 3rd trophy in 3 years, and ECL football next season, will save ETH. The extra income and participation in the prime European tournament will help ease PSR and make the club far more attractive to top players.
7.) 30 Aug 2024 15:58:15
GDS2, Fred scored a hat-trick last weekend, first of his career, Jose has turned him into the new Kaka!
8.) 30 Aug 2024 16:02:51
i suspect pl will get a 5th spot in cl next season. villa. pool, city, arsenal should make the quarters or at worst 3 will imo.
Europa I think united will get deep into the latter stages and then its about team health and many other factors. spurs should also advance, although not convinced at all by ange.
Chelsea should walk conference league, after all 1.4 billion I think spend should be able to win against 6th/ 7th place teams of other European leagues. even though they want to get rid of players they still have about 300/ 400 mill pounds of players sitting in their bomb squad that can fill in so injuries not a concern for them.
going away to romania and cech side are not as straight forward fixtures as most might believe. porto and turkey away looks like the toughest fixture.
9.) 30 Aug 2024 16:36:16
Isee Villa tanking in Europe this season until they find their feet.
10.) 30 Aug 2024 17:36:49
Spenno
Unai Emery is a pro at playing European football. They will do very well and have invested properly into their squad. arsenal loss was a bs result. they should have been home and dry but missed huge chances and in this league you get punished if you are wasteful.
Spurs having a mare much more plausible imo.
11.) 30 Aug 2024 18:13:14
Agree spenno I see a tough year ahead for villa.
28 Jul 2024 16:18:05
Looks like we have another breakthrough talent in young Collyer. Very composed last night. Rashford also showed his previous self, even after losing another Range Rover.
1.) 28 Jul 2024 16:52:38
I can see him being the first this season followed by Amass and Oyedele to break into the first team squad by end of the season.
2.) 28 Jul 2024 17:53:26
I doubt they will amass 100 mins between them all season for the 1st team.
3.) 28 Jul 2024 18:35:43
Why do you doubt Tumble?
4.) 28 Jul 2024 23:16:41
Because they are miles off epl standard imo. They look like good prospects particularly amass who is well regarded a long time.
5.) 29 Jul 2024 11:26:10
What is Collyer lacking Tumble?
6.) 29 Jul 2024 12:39:33
From what I've seen so far I'd say Collyer and Fish look ready to get minutes in the senior team. They have played their pre-season minutes with a confidence that they know they can play this level and that competing with grown men isn't a problem.
Amass, Oyedele and Wheatley all look like they can/ will struggle at times with the pace/ strength of men's football. They need to learn how to use their bodies better. While they also look too keen to impress, it's like they are trying to force it rather than just playing the game.
They all look like a good loan where they play regularly at either Championship or even league one level would be ideal experience for them. Get them physically competing with men every week, learn to relax into a game and how to use their body to withstand a more physically competitive level of football.
I think they might be ready for first team minutes next season rather than this one.
7.) 29 Jul 2024 12:59:48
Exposure to men's football, know how, speed of thought, physicality.
A loan or a full year training with the squad perhaps some bench opportunities In Europe in particular might arise but unless we have very serious Injury issues again I wouldn't have thought he will play too often this coming season.
8.) 29 Jul 2024 13:29:20
To be fair, Mainoo’s loan and Garnacho’s loan to get them ready for senior football helped them out ??.
9.) 29 Jul 2024 13:59:14
Ports for every mainoo or garnacho there are 20 Tyler blackets jacuzzi machedas or Borthwick Jackson.
Mainoo is a generational exceptional talent. I was laughed at after his debut saying he would play with rice and Bellingham in the euros.
Some players are special mainoo is one of those. Garnacho not so much but certainly good enough to do his learning on the job.
Amad needed his loan and still looked short last season.
10.) 29 Jul 2024 14:43:33
But how long ago were those players you are talking about Ken? 10 years? Games changed, players have changed. I think the game now is easier to bring in young kids then it was 10, 15, 20 years ago. I also think there is more need to bring kids through with financial elements of the game. There will never be another class of 92 but I can see more kids coming through. If as a club we bring 1 through a season we are doing very well. I just think this next crop there are a couple of gems. That’s with Lacey still not even mentioned and wouldn’t expect to see him til next season at the earliest.
11.) 29 Jul 2024 15:17:16
Who did shortire sign for today?
12.) 29 Jul 2024 15:23:50
1 a season would be great ports.
There are a few with potential but the gulf between epl and academy is massive. Lots of good players and most will carve out a professional career the vast majority of those will be away from united.
Ports you may feel its easier now to bring kids through but the stats say something different. Less players are finding their way through from academy to 1st team in the epl than they did in the 80s 90s 2000's so you may feel that but it's distinctly not true.
13.) 29 Jul 2024 17:26:20
Ports, I disagree with that. I don't think it's easier at all, In fact I think it's much harder.
We have seen a steady stream of young English lads moving to the Netherlands and Germany to get a chance and breakthrough into men's football.
That never used to happen. Getting relegated from the EPL costs a club 100's of millions. While competition at the top of the league is greater than ever. Which clubs can afford to give youth players a real chance? Half a dozen teams who'll be comfortably mid-table perhaps, or those that have no choice due to circumstances.
Would Garnacho and Mainoo have got the chances they did if we had a strong squad full of top class players and were battling Man City for the title? Probably not.
We've got a strong bunch of kids in the academy right now, if 2 or 3 make it at our club as genuine first team players then that would be a massive success.
How many clubs have 3 or 4 former academy players playing regularly in their first 11? Let alone teams that are genuinely fighting it out for major honours.
That alone highlights how hard it is for these kids to step up into the first team.
Managers getting sacked left right and centre. When they know that a few bad results could cost them their job, how willing do you think they will be to take a chance on a youngster?
LvG gave loads of academy kids debuts and chances, yet only one of them actually made in in the first team. He must have given 15-20 young players chances in the first team. Yet only one made it.
That step up is hard, tougher that ever I'd say. I'm excited to see which of our youngsters are able to make that step up. I know that with our current manager they will at least get a chance. Then its up to them and probably a healthy slice of luck to seize that opportunity.
14.) 29 Jul 2024 17:27:51
Ken, that’s not true though and unfortunately just because you think it is, it’s not. In 2022 the premier league published a report about the 10 years of the EPPP (Elite Player Performance Plan) . It showed that compared to 2012/ 13 season when the plan launched, twice as many minutes are being played by English U21 players. There was 566 homegrown premier league debutants. Of the 1,866 players to feature in the premier league since 2012/ 13, 47% have been homegrown. Now, comparing the game to the 80’s and early 90’s is ridiculous because the money wasn’t there. I compared it to 20 years ago (2004).
So you may think less players are finding their way through from academy to 1st team but it's distinctly not true.
15.) 29 Jul 2024 18:37:49
That's not true of academy graduates. There is a difference between academy graduates coming through too the epl and homegrown players.
16.) 30 Jul 2024 07:09:44
Ports, let's play a game, how many EPL clubs (and the players) can you name that are regular (first choice if everyone is fit and available) for their club who came through that clubs academy?
17.) 30 Jul 2024 08:09:36
Completely different discussion Shappy. Breaking into the 1st team squad as was the original statement and becoming a regular starting player is very different.
Tell me where I said they’d become regular starting players. A homegrown player must have been in the academy system for at least 3 years before the age of 21. Collyer hasn’t been at United for 3 years but has been in our academy and is classed as homegrown. And the stats clearly show young players are getting more opportunities in 1st teams. Which is the original discussion. It seems you and Ken want to change the narrative of this discussion for some reason.
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01 Feb 2025 19:15:49
And when I posted Grim, I just knew it would only be a few minutes before someone said that. I just didn't think it best that I should say it!
01 Feb 2025 12:35:03
There's a picture of him on the flight Ken, breath of fresh air.
No nose jewels, ear rings, bracelets, necklaces, badged clothing, and best of all, for me, not clutching a Louis Vuitton washbag. Just a very calm looking young professional footballer in a smart fleece jacket waving at the camera. Being only a 90 minute flight away from his family now can only be a help for him settling in. Listening to his coach, he can run all day and doesn't get injured.
Fingers crossed.
30 Jan 2025 15:36:34
The latest Media Mumbles about us involve Mathys Tel, 19yo, Bayern Munich forward who wants away for more game time. His stats this season are a virtual flatline.
I know bringing on our Academy/ u21's has been done to death over the past week or so but has anyone seen the highlights of the u21's v Oldham last night? 5-0, all in the second half and quite easily could have been 8.
Obi was everywhere, same for Kone - the whole team running their tripes out for each other the whole 90.
I hope RA gives one or two of them the last ten minutes towards the end of the season.
Whatever, but on last nights showing, the future looks bright.
06 Jul 2023 18:00:43
For us this afternoon. Aged finger issues strike again.
31 Jan 2023 18:23:15
Forgot to say - he was on his own, no hangers on.
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13 Jan 2025 18:49:47
And I forgot to say. Toby Collyer didn't look like a boy amongst men either, slotted in really well. Add this to Diego Leon, the Paraguayan U20 LB we are about to sign and the future starts to take shape.
13 Jan 2025 17:21:34
Agree totally Nou - De Ligt, Harry M, Mazroui and Martinez seem to be forming quite a unit.
17 Dec 2024 17:54:22
If he stopped trying to be the next Messi instead of listening to coaches and becoming the first Garnacho we might see a real player. Plus his brother hangs on his coat tails and, in my opinion is a loose cannon. Leaks anyone?
16 Oct 2024 21:23:30
This is the first time ever I have diverted to a non football Ed article.
I never saw the point.
As a younger man I was a very effective lightweight boxer, who, as I moved towards 21 started to fill out and moved up to light welterweight and finally welter. two weights too many. I was a clever, technical boxer up against whackers who could really hurt, and they did!
Ed001 thanks for putting this together - it's taken me back over 50 years. Lamotta was an exceptionally hard man.
Flawed? Absolutely, but from a generation of hard men the like of whicb I doubt we will never see again.
Thanks Ed, greatly appreciated.
{Ed001's Note - I am really glad you enjoyed it, he was certainly a very interesting, if not a very nice guy at all.}
08 Oct 2024 12:16:14
1959 pre season 1st team vs Reserves warmup match. Scoreboard standing only end, sat on a crush barrier on my Dad's mac. I was 9.
Waited outside and got my first ever autograph. Had to ask him who he was.
"Albert Quixall".