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13 Jan 2025 21:37:08
Not sure if it’s been talked about but the clip of our player sprinting yes sprinting back from a corner like there life’s depended on it was so refreshing to see
It’s not much to ask for, work like dogs and give your absolute everything.
Actually looking forward to weekends game and it’s a been a while since I’ve felt like this.
1.) 13 Jan 2025 22:36:42
Don’t even have to wait until weekend, 2 home games coming up this week, let’s see if we can put that effort in at home.
30 Dec 2024 22:02:06
I know we have all laughed at the thought but make no mistake we are in a relegation fight
And I use the the word “fight” loosely as this team have 0 fight.
This team is the worst shower of **** we’ve produced
We’ve a forward line that is championship level at best.
Senior international defenders that do not know how to defend, no balls in the centre of the park when ugarte doesn’t play.
And a new manager that must be thinking what have I came to.
Liverpool next week could be another 7… feel sorry for Amorim he’s come in to a team that’s been constructed to not fit any style or way of playing
Where are the leaders? Where are the players who when the chips are down fight where’s captain fantastic…
There’s ways of getting beat, I can except losing but lose going out on your back fighting like a dog.
This group of players deserve nothing from us fans we are not asking for much go out give your all that is it.
Make no mistake the game against Southampton is a 6 pointer and we may laugh about it but we’ve lost 4 out of 5 games that is relegation form.
1.) 30 Dec 2024 22:31:40
Totally mate we are right in it, and if we take an arrogant approach and think we aren’t then the worst could happen. We are in relegation form, if u take our name away and look at the stats for the season the. You’d say that team might go down. Big changes needed but most of all the players need to step up. Unlike the rest of the teams down the bottom our lot have no fight and that’s a worry. Doubt we will see zirkzee again, he’s shot.
2.) 30 Dec 2024 23:07:46
sorry for Amorim he’s come in to a team that’s been constructed to not fit any style or way of playing
What exactly is his style of play? And why are you feeling sorry for him? The man is paid top dollars gk coach.
3.) 30 Dec 2024 23:57:20
Maze,
Same post again, interesting you’ve turned on the manager already, any chance it could be the players that are the problem?
4.) 31 Dec 2024 00:20:59
When you said Zirkzee was shot Tim was that meant to be rubbish?
5.) 31 Dec 2024 00:36:38
Go and watch his sporting side pal, that is the style of play he will try to play here given TIME and players to fit that style he’s been in the job 5 minuites and at the worst time possible with the amount of games and not enough time to train.
I do feel sorry for him because some of these players are not coachable and we’ve seen that anytime over the last 2 managers when they have tried to implement a way of certain players have not been able to and we have reverted to quick transition and counter attacking football
I use Pep as prime example of example of what will happen if you stick to your principles either the players adapt or they are changed for players that can.
Same happened with Klopp and same with Arteta
We have to ride out the storm as bad as it is atm this is needed if we are to change
For to many years we have been a counter attacking quick transition based team where the least amount of work is needed.
We’ve had over 10 years of dross with the odd cup win thrown in, another 6 months of hardship isn’t that bad
Everywhere lacks confidence atm on and off the pitch and as bad as this lot are we all need to stick together and ride out the storm.
6.) 31 Dec 2024 08:29:47
Meant zirkzees confidence is gone and he’ll struggle to get it back. He’s been poor but so have most and the booing last night I fear he won’t recover from.
23 May 2024 23:54:00
Anyone remember the so called leaks about Mckennas training sessions being likened to academy training sessions and players didn’t take to him
This story now breaking that his reps have held talks with Wilcox and berrada a few days before the final is a complete joke
And what disrespect to ten hag regardless if your going to get rid of him no matter what go about it the right way.
1.) 24 May 2024 07:39:53
INEOS, between the cutting down of tickets for staff and family members, the back to office memo, awards cancellation and handling of ETHs situation, are not covering themselves in much glory at the minute.
2.) 24 May 2024 08:58:36
100%right on extra match tickets for staff and family members
100% right on back to office
I don't think I've seen a quote from the club re eth. But he eth himself has known for some time.
The place has been like a holiday camp.
It's not making money the way it should.
It's a business and needs to be run as one.
Crack down on all bad habits and put the business 1st.
100% behind their ways of working.
They won't get everything right but it's not a holiday camp or charity.
Imagine any company not being as profitable as it can and having 15% 20%too much staff.
Crackdown and streamline.
If people don't like it too bad let them talk when they have but in the sort of money sjr has.
If you don't need 2 te ladies get rid of one.
Poor practice for way too long.
Thankfully we have professionals in now who know how and what they are doing.
Very easy to be so considerate and care free when it's not your money.
Spoken like a man that's never put millions of his own money into a project.
It may seem churlish to you Angel but the waste has been extra ordinary. Every single dept and job should be looked at. Get the costs down all over the place and get the profits up.
That's what we need to do to be able to reinvest into the squad and facilities.
I hear players from the 70s and 80s moaning that their free tickets might or have been moved.
Too bad and they call players of this generation snow flakes ?? they are free, if you don't want them where they are offered jog on.
3.) 24 May 2024 09:24:10
Angelred, INEOS getting a grip on runaway finances and expenditures is absolutely required.
4.) 24 May 2024 09:39:49
Free tickets should be earned and not a privilege. I am sure once the club starts to earn the rights to such things that they will be back.
But until then play because you want to and not for what you get!
5.) 24 May 2024 09:43:45
Long may they continue to get into every detail of every area of the club and look for improvements. You don't get and sustain success any other way.
Whilst Brailsford isn't a football man he is an expert administrator. His thing was always look for improvements everywhere because all those tiny improvements stack. I don't think this will be a quick fix but it will be a gradual and constant process I am very hopeful will work.
6.) 24 May 2024 09:56:59
It happens in the vast majority of businesses when someone comes in, change which proves unpopular. They wouldn’t be hear if the glazers were running a successful club which was performing on and off the pitch.
I’ve been through it before in my own work.
However, I don’t like speculation before such a big game. However at the same time, I’m not sure the club are briefing this and it seems that it’s coming from agents? Could be wrong.
7.) 24 May 2024 10:00:20
Players, employees (some of them) and board members have all been on easy street for years due to the ownership, now someone is trying to instill standards and work ethic and they are all throwing their toys out of the pram. Fair play to INEOS and let’s hope they keep it up. Perks, bonuses have been handed out like confetti, they should be earned not expected.
8.) 24 May 2024 10:36:17
Bolger have you ever moved jobs?
Did you tell your employer you were going to interviews elsewhere?
Did your prospective new employer meet you before or after you informed your current employer?
Why is it a disgrace? In every single walk of life people are interviewed for a position before the incumbent leaves and in many cases the incumbent does not know about these meetings.
9.) 24 May 2024 10:42:48
Yeah, I'm not so sure on it the ticket situation.
Back to office? Lol, I mean a lot of people are working from office and I think that number continues to grow. Don't be a dinosaur.
Also, ridding the club of the awards this year when women's an u18s had stellar seasons. Poor move.
10.) 24 May 2024 11:14:24
They didn't rid the club of the awards angel don't be Peddling nonsense and hyperbole.
All the awards were awarded.
11.) 24 May 2024 11:15:08
Dalot named players player of three year this year. He seems to be very popular within the squad and has a good season.
12.) 24 May 2024 11:19:35
Not the first awards do the club has cancelled, and likely not the last.
23 May 2024 08:53:34
I remember when the rumours of Poch being next manager instead of ten hag were flying round and this page was full of people slagging Poch off
He’s not won anything major, failed at spurs, couldn’t win anything meaningful with psg
Now he’s the flavor of the hour
Now the same people who didn’t want Poch back then are now suddenly he’s number one fan and want him to take control
The guy is a success in failure, backwards step if we get him in imo, his football is just as dross as the football we’ve had over the last 10 years
Don’t get the Poch lovers tbh.
1.) 23 May 2024 09:00:30
Who are those people bolger that slagged him off last year and now want him?
2.) 23 May 2024 09:06:06
I've no real preference at all who comes in.
There are 1 or 2 I'd prefer it wasn't but imo nobody can do worse than 10hag did this season.
Juve gone for the largely unproven month.
Bayern gone for the largely unproven kompany like leverkusen went for the unproven alonso.
Chelsea heavily linked with the unproven mckenna or the chap from Leicester.
Some really interesting appointments at big clubs.
Interesting strategies.
When eth leaves we are not sure what we will be getting but we know for sure he will do better than eth imo.
3.) 23 May 2024 09:48:54
'we know for sure he will do better than eth'
Do we? What if it's Southgate? Or will anyone do better because of a new structure above and therefore so would ETH.
I don't mind whether he stays or goes, or who comes in (other than maybe Southgate. ) but saying anyone one would be better for sure? Post Fergie ETH has been one of the most successful (shows how low successful now is) so by your logic next season, with any new manager, we'll get a trophy and be competitive at the top of the table at the very least.
4.) 23 May 2024 10:12:31
If unproven managers weren't ever recruited they'd never be proven! Might sound obvious, but based on this thread it needs stating.
We're not in a situation where we can cherry pick. Years of poor leadership have gotten us here. We all have our choices. In Poch's defence, he has a good CV despite being laden with the never won anything tag. I thought he was class at Spurs. Managed a toxic squad at PSG very well and was showing signs of turning Chelsea around despite their obvious issues. Them sacking Poch, for me, is less justified than United sacking ETH.
Poch has never had the best, or even second best squad in the EPL. His players let him down the year Leicester won. They should have won the league. Would he win the league at City? Yes. At Liverpool and Arsenal he would do no worse than Klopp or Arteta for me. Would ETH win the league with City? Not with the tactics he used this season at United, no. He would immediately neutralise their best player, Rodri. His inverted wingers would starve Haaland.
I would like to see Poch given a chance.
5.) 23 May 2024 10:21:38
I think you missed where I said in my opinion key.
6.) 23 May 2024 10:42:19
EtH 1st season 3td, league cup won and FA CuP final. Lost in the EL due to the Martinez injury and the players having a weak mentality.
2nd season, blighted by injuries and being unable to play a steady back 4, coupled with some bad substitutions and the playing out of form players.
3rd season . Sacked or stays.
My preference is for EtH to stay for one final season. Poch hasn't won anything. His Chelsea team have been equally poor as their Utd team. They did manage to find some form over the last few weeks.
7.) 23 May 2024 10:47:06
Ok, my reason for wanting eth to be given a shot next season is, I don't agree that he is tactically foolish as some suggest, in fact his peers seems to think he is one of the best. I think he done well last year but his directive was to play a more entertaining style of football and has managed to reach a final while doing it, he is attempting to implement that this year, and yes he has failed so far but he has had to contend with a fair few injuries, players not being able to adjust to the plan, and young players finding their place in the team. I have fault with him too, his signings have not impressed at all, some of claims in his interviews are ridiculous. Maybe 4 or 5 years ago I would be on the side of replacing him but right now, after so many managers I think he should be given a chance to show what he can do with a fit squad and no off field distractions.
8.) 23 May 2024 11:05:13
What magic wand are any of these (not-so) superior replacements going to wave to suddenly make every injured player the squad has had across the season match fit? Are they going to personally drive to the doors of the likes of Sancho and Rashford to pick them up on time and help with their off-field demons? What does a coach who was ridiculed for his ineffectiveness as part of the Ole regime add after a season with a championship side? He'd be eaten alive by the egos, much like Potter was when he made the step up. There's a culture of football fans wanting shiny new things and always assuming the grass will be greener.
9.) 23 May 2024 11:58:51
Spenno.
The injuries are too much of an excuse for absolute bonkers tactical decisions. The same flaws were on display from gameweek 1 to 36 against arsenal where he finally changed. Why did it take to the 36th game of the season?
I said it the other week, if he had of went a bit more pragmatic and started to try and play with as much of a solid base as possible I’d argue even with injuries we could have 10-15 more points and I’d cut him so much slack because we could be validated we maybe could have done more with a full squad. But with a full squad, go back and watch wolves at home in the opening game.
Giving up 20+ shots a game, vacating the midfield to pretty much play basketball was ludicrous. I don’t think Ten Hag is someone who knows nothing about football, nor do I think he’s necessarily a bad coach. Heck I think he’s a decent guy. However, on the balance of what I’ve seen this season, I don’t think he’s the man to take us forward, especially if the football he played for 95% of the season is what he wants to do.
10.) 23 May 2024 12:34:20
There are no guarantees with any manager spenno.
Maybe the leverkusen fans were saying the same as you when alonso was appointed.
Perhaps the bayern fans think the same with kompany to be appointed.
Juve fans may think the same with Motta appointed.
For every ying there is a yang.
Imo the only manager out there that guarantees success is pep.
I think we all know it will take a couple of years to be challenging again, maybe more.
Imo the target has got to continued sustainable improvement on and off the pitch.
11.) 23 May 2024 13:13:42
Exactly my thoughts caolan.
I was 100% behind eth until Jan.
I think he has some great qualities but imo is missing some key leadership traits for united.
12.) 23 May 2024 13:42:09
I just don't see an obvious replacement or upgrade who will have done any better with the issues EtH has had. Poch was deemed not good enough two years ago. Granted I suspect he is a fantastic man-manager. Maybe that's what is needed in a few cases.
13.) 23 May 2024 13:53:38
The best managers in world football atm seem to be larger than life characters, a little spiky, and the likes of Klopp/ Pep/ Arteta taking the Prem examples (plus Slot) by all accounts seem like they have an incredible relationship with their players. Fair to say EtH maybe doesn't come across in those ways but then again does Ancelloti, prob second only behind Pep. Completely different characters.
14.) 23 May 2024 14:03:11
Spenno,
I don’t care who the manager is to be honest. I just want to enjoy watching the team again, and look forward to games.
Moving forward the game is going the way of coaches instead of the traditional manager like Fergie was for example.
If ten hag remains, I’d hope to see a continuation of the stability of the team from the last couple of games and build from that foundation. I just don’t have any confidence that he will.
15.) 23 May 2024 15:19:39
It shouldn't make a difference but unfortunately in life it does but one of ETHs problems is he doesn't seem to be very warm towards people- now I've lived in Holland for 6 years I get it with the aloofness but Poch, McKenna do seem to have that likeabilty factor players lean towards like Klopp and Ange have . Its all balance I guess, no one is more likeable than OGS.
{Ed007's Note - Ange Postecoglou definitely doesn't have any likability factor among his players. There were rumours since confirmed by Celtic players about how AP kept his distance from the players, he didn't have much of a personal connection with players, refusing to socialise in and around the training ground.
Even AP's No.2 at Celtic has spoken about how Ange liked to keep a distance between players and coaching staff etc.}
16.) 23 May 2024 15:25:24
Spenno I can't think of a 1st choice player or manager that Woodward got right so perhaps being his 1st choice is a bad thing. Poch not being his 1st choice may turn out to be a compliment?.
17.) 23 May 2024 19:06:39
Not sure why people are so hung up on Poch like he is God's gift. Has won nothing in his career and was sacked from PSG for having no clear style of play. and people think he'll be better than ETH.
I'm not saying ETH is the right man, but Poch certainly isn't going to take the club forward.
18.) 23 May 2024 19:20:21
All the speculation about the manager is mostly baseless and let the chips fall after Saturday. Its a bit sad to see all the stuff written which a lot of it is bs and imo quite unsettling if you are a player or the coaching staff imo.
Going to the game and quiet optimistic. It will be a very close game and finally a team without massive injury problems, although fitness levels will not be there for players who have just come back. GGMU.
19.) 23 May 2024 19:21:04
Just my opinion looking in, ETH is never going to be the guy to get United back to the top. He might improve next year, he might not. But I can never see him being able to take United back to the top.
I don’t buy into the injuries being the reason it all went wrong. Yes it had an effect, but he still managed to field a team of internationals most weeks. If the players you have available can’t play the game plan you want then change the game plan. You don’t just throw the players on the pitch and hope it works out. However, if that style of play is ETH’s game plan then it won’t work no matter who is on the pitch. No back four can cope with that many attacks in a game.
Getting outplayed by city or Arsenal is one thing and is understandable at the current time. But when teams fighting relegation can have that many shots, out fight and often out play you, then there is something really wrong.
I’m 100% in the camp of trying somebody else now. The rebuild starts this summer, so if the new regime isn’t sold on ETH then why start a rebuild with him. Might as well start with the guy you want in charge.
However, I do agree with some of the posters above. Taking a chance on McKenna is probably not the best move right now. Probably a little too inexperienced right now. Maybe as the next boss.
I don’t see any reason not to go with Poch. I think he’d jump at the chance. Players seem to like him and play for him. He pretty much had a team full of brand new players at the start of the season, most of them very young, once he had time to nail down his starting 11 and get them drilled in what he wants they started to perform.
Just my thoughts, I’m not an expert. So can only hope the people at United making the decisions get it right.
20.) 23 May 2024 19:39:12
In complete agreement fallguy.
I still think potter would be a good option aswel.
Poch I always look at as a utd manager don't know why.
I believe it will be tuchel but still can't shake the idea of Southgate.
21.) 23 May 2024 20:51:30
News tonight saying united have met with McKenna’s representatives.
Every appointment is a risk. But he would be a massive risk.
22.) 23 May 2024 22:35:27
Well Fallguy the people at Utd whoever they have been haven’t made one right decision since Fergie left.
Let’s hope the next one is right, but the form book isn’t good.
23.) 24 May 2024 10:09:07
The people making the decisions for last 12 years are gone spenno. So it's a new form book.
24.) 24 May 2024 10:56:15
He is at the wrong club if he needs no off field distraction.
There will always be off field distraction at united banjoe.
23 May 2024 07:47:44
Ed, can we get a poll on if ten hag gets sacked on who people want to take over?
Between:
Tuchel
Poch
McKenna
De zerbi
Potter
Southgate
Thanks.
{Ed033's Note -
Manager poll
1.) 23 May 2024 09:54:42
Should be an option for none of the above.
2.) 23 May 2024 12:00:18
The order was ;
McKenna
De zerbi
Poch
Tuchel.
3.) 23 May 2024 12:24:18
I went for Southgate out of pity as I knew he would be bottom.
Four more years V_O_V.
4.) 23 May 2024 12:45:36
99 votes in and a really diverse response. 3 of those appeal to me a lot more than the other 3 options but I've no real knowledge about any of them.
Southgate not my type of guy. Although imo he has done a fantastic job for England.
Potter. Again not the type of personality that I can identify with.
Tuchel. I like but he seems to be a little abrasive.
De zerbi. Great job at Brighton their best ever finish came under him. Looks a bit emotional to me but I don't know much about him.
Mckenna. I think is the youngest ever pro license coach (or was) brilliant job at Ipswich and he has seen his star rise considerably.
Poch. Again I like him and his demeanor is one I admire.
Decent options I think all of them would finish higher than 8th with united.
5.) 23 May 2024 13:00:38
Mckenna? ? stop it. Just because he’s coached here before, we were trash then as well.
6.) 23 May 2024 13:22:36
Would be interesting to see the same poll but with Ten Hag added in to see how many want him gone.
7.) 23 May 2024 13:56:57
Without ETH included and none of the above options available I cannot vote.
8.) 23 May 2024 16:46:59
Now you know how the Americans feel fizzy poor choice there too. Come 4th July I'm sure you won't find it easy to vote either?.
9.) 23 May 2024 20:06:20
Cannot believe mckenna is the people's champ! Jesus ?? I'd keep ten hag above all of them but if I was forced to choose it would be poch, simply on the basis that he seems to have a great relationship with his players and the give their all for him ?♂️.
10.) 24 May 2024 07:20:44
This just show how bad all the options are. I voted for McKenna as he is at least an up and comming manager. Perhaps I would be fine with Poch as well.
28 Aug 2024 16:20:44
Wouldn’t mind Toney me, think he would suit us well as another forward
Ideal signing would be the winger from Napoli, can’t spell his name but think he’s quality and would suit the prem
But glad the club have stuck with a manager, sancho thought he could outlast another manager like most players because the culture has been shocking
Hopefully now we kick on Sunday.
08 Aug 2024 16:02:38
We are looking like going into the season with a worse squad than last season
I get it’s bad luck with yoro getting injured but surely the club knew the priority was sorting that defence out 1 18 year old cb is not enough let along the midfield
We are an injury away to Martinez from having to play 2 of linder Maguire and evans, we still don’t know how shaw will be, malacia is getting paid to sit at home and young amas is not ready yet.
Very worrying espically as we are close to 1 week away from the first game of the season
A lot of talk from ineos but not a lot action (are we right to start panicking with the lack of signings)
Inability to sell players who are on high wages from the previous regime has left us in a pickle
3 years on and we still have the 7/ 8 players who started ten hags first game.
06 Aug 2024 16:14:29
He literally posted the info given on the muppitiers video scholesy
You can’t thank him then slag his source of info off ?.
06 Aug 2024 10:48:57
The muppitiers is a great channel for getting info, been following him for years.
02 Aug 2024 13:35:25
David ornstien had reported it AR.
16 Jan 2025 22:50:40
Well we don’t really need to sell now for psr isn’t it changing in the summer to teams being allowed to spend 85 percent of their income 70 percent for teams in who are in European competitions and with the reports done for the last 3 seasons there shouldn’t be an issue in buying now without selling
I don’t see how rashford stays imo even if like you say get him gone on loan hope he performs the. We can make a sale in the summer
But left wing back should be priority or are they going to see how shaw is when he returns I’m sure he is due back end of this month I might be wrong but either way left wing back for me is massively important
Think amad is our best right wing back although he is better in that Ss role he is also our best right wing back, think maz has been a quality signing but lacks that attacking ability he does play well as a cb aswell
Think for me,
Antony
Linder
Casimiro
Rashford
Should all be sold this window, agree with garbacho give him the rest of the season if he can’t adapt get rid.
I would keep Erickson till the summer think as a sub he can offer something different late in games
But we also need a striker hojland does not do enough yes he is young but he lacks a lot of traits for me that unless he learns I cannot see him lasting another 2 seasons, his hold up play and link up play is poor, drifts wide far to much and isn’t clinical enough when he does get a chance (although not many)
04 Jan 2025 22:01:34
This is why we are in the potion we are
We keep hold of poor players not good enough
Why not promote one of the young kids as a back up? Instead we renew a player who should have been sold 3 years ago
We might have new foitba people at the club but it stinks of the same old decisions
We keep holding onto the same players that have not been good enough for season after season after season.
04 Jan 2025 21:59:28
We’re conceding so many corner goals brciase we don’t man mark and simply try and mark a space
It’s pretty pathetic when you look at how we defend not just corners but any set piece.
04 Jan 2025 21:58:40
Football is soft now. you can’t do anything without some clown in a room dictating the play
It’s got worse as var has been introduced for me
Use it for offsides but anything else should be the refs decision.
03 Jan 2025 15:52:21
I don’t think Rasmus is being made a scapegoat like many players he needs to do more
And when the team isn’t winning and is on a very bad run of form the things we would normally let slide get picked up on
He is young and he isn’t ready to be leading the line, I do think he has the ability atm tho his hold up play needs work and he needs to stay in around the box, demand the ball is played in behind
He often comes deep or out wide he needs to a bit more at linking the play. But that said he is not the worst player out there atm.
We have a championship level forward line and cannot count on the defence atm we are leaking goals
Somtimes you need your forwards to get you out of trouble and at the minuite we don’t look like scoring and are heading to a place we have scored once since 2018.