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21 Oct 2024 12:56:48
I watched a few games over the weekend and I didn't enjoy any of them, including utd. I think it's finally happened, my long term relationship with football is ending.

Banjoe

1.) 21 Oct 2024 16:33:14
I enjoyed our game, at least the second half when we played some nice football against a poor defense.

For me, watching City, is a chore when they're playing inferior opposition. They are relentless. It's the same pattern again and again, and their superior ball handling abilities and positioning allow them to trap their opponents in their own half. It's admirable but it's hardly exciting to anyone who doesn't support them. It's just dogged defense for virtually 90 minutes. Yawn. All you hope for is that the opposition can somehow hold out which they can rarely do.

I think it's going to be interesting to watch what happens to the EPL in the future. My feeling is that it's peaked, witnessed by a general decline in the value of transfer activity. With all that's going on in the world, it's getting harder to put football at the top of ones list of important things, especially when the owners of these clubs are generally so unsavory. I'm definitely watching fewer games overall.


2.) 21 Oct 2024 16:55:25
I think it's oversaturation shaw. It's too much now. Every ex footballer with a podcast, ex refs reviews, endless pundits. The same discussions again and again. And I always preferred football where wingers/ full backs ran and took on players. It's happening less now, probably because they will be crucified if it doesn't come off. Anyway, football is more popular than ever, so it's just the opinion of this old fella.


3.) 21 Oct 2024 17:27:52
I love watching city and love the way they play Shaw.
Fantastic technical ability and patterns and they all can manipulate the ball and the space so well that it's hard for the opposition to get on the ball.
Their work rate and ability to regain possession and force the opposition into turning the ball over again is second to none. If that bores you then fine but ones mans thrash is another man's gold
I bet you liked watching united dominate for 20 years. But guess what city fans thought we were boring then as did every other neutral.
Banjoe I take your point and agree with the over saturated state of the market. I don't watch much if any of the pre and post match stuff and don't follow any football on any of the social media channels as most of it is pure nonsense imo.
Even post match now is mainly about refs decisions which infuriates me.
Football fans are unique and more tribal than in practically any other sport. Fans are incapable of sitting alongside opposition without wanting to punch them. It's pathetic.

{Ed025's Note - im with Shaw Ken, passing for the sake of it bores me to tears mate, i thought the same about Barcelona actually, United in their pomp played with cut and trust and that was more attractive to me..


4.) 21 Oct 2024 18:36:04
I really like and admire it Billy. As I said one man's thrash is another man's gold.
I played to a decent level but their tecch ability and ball manipulation is off the charts imo.
I'd rather watch that style than United in their pomp.


5.) 21 Oct 2024 21:48:45
I admire City but I don't love watching them. Klopps Liverpool on the other hand were just brilliant fun. Amd as much as it pains me to say they were the best team to watch in the last decade in the EPL. I also really like the guy, it should not be like this as a United fan.

I promise you this though, once I have invented the time machine and bought United before the Glazers get a hold of it, Klopp is replacing Fergie.


6.) 22 Oct 2024 21:16:15
Hell no i'd never watch city compared to the way united used to play. Ken your deluded to think citys way is more attractive. They bunch of cheaters and boring as anything to watch.


7.) 22 Oct 2024 21:18:49
Im with oakboark as well liverpoola style was way better to wqtch then the way city play.

Klopps a way better manager then that sacrcastic looking Guardiola.

Everytime he does his presentations he comes across so rude and arrogant and extremely sarcastic!

He thinks he's the best ever but he ain't even in the top 5 coaches of all time.

Recently he waas saying Fergies is the best ever and even then he was saying it in a very sarcastic manner.

I can't stand him!


8.) 22 Oct 2024 22:35:30
Watching City is like death by a thousand cuts. Pep maybe the hest manager around, but his brand of football doesn't really get you off your seat.

On the plus side I do spend more time watching my local NPL West team since United's declined. Football is rubbish but very entertaining to watch.


9.) 22 Oct 2024 23:45:44
City bore me to tears, the whole thing is soulless and the passing teams to death is boring, I don’t enjoy watching the way they play. Good games of football are between 2 good teams both going at each other not one keeping the ball and not letting the other team have a touch, just isn’t for me and it annoys me that we try and play this boring possession game at times too. Everyone obsessed with passing out from the back, defenders passing goal kicks backwards to the goalkeeper, just all bores me.

I thought the same about Barcelona as well Ed25, I’m looking forward to Pep going as I think it will open up the league a bit and the top teams will have some good games and be challenging each other properly.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely GDS, its the same with the national sides as well who bore us to tears with passing to death when our strong suit is high tempo full in your face football, give me Fergie/Klopp style football that gets you off your seat any day mate..


 

 

02 Sep 2024 22:34:50
Any truth that Erikson could join Anderlecht on a free?

Banjoe

1.) 02 Sep 2024 23:19:47
The press reckons that he will stay until January as cover for Mount injury. Who knows? I certainly don’t!


2.) 03 Sep 2024 12:20:47
Better he left.

I do not think we are making top 4 again anyway.


 

 

07 May 2024 07:48:49
I'm not saying he should be sacked but does anyone seriously know how the training is conducted. I mean he wants to play a system but hasn't had players available to him to play it, so what does training look like. Is he training a system with players who can't play it hoping it will click and then the injured slotting back in when available. Its just that his "preferred" players have been out a long time now so how do they train for this system with players that clearly don't get it or can't play it.

Banjoe

1.) 07 May 2024 09:52:48
Banjoe it didn't matter whether people want him sacked or not.
Eth will not be here next season. He knows it and he has for some time.


2.) 07 May 2024 09:54:09
He should get the sack Banjoe. The dross that’s being served up week in week out is indefensible. The players have downed tools, no doubt about that. The injury list is like nothing we’ve seen in a long time but ultimately it comes down to the coaches and how the team is set up.
Up until last night I thought Ten Hag might just escape the boot by the skin of his teeth but last night was the final straw for me.


3.) 07 May 2024 10:11:35
Who's told him that ken? How does he know?


4.) 07 May 2024 10:16:38
The players haven't downed tools they don't have the tools in the first place.


5.) 07 May 2024 10:29:50
They have a tool of a manager?.


6.) 07 May 2024 10:36:28
Last night was Watford all over again. If INEOS and SJR are serious about getting this club moving forward, I personally feel like they need to come out with a statement on the manager now, he stays or he leaves. Don't see how all the uncertainty is helping.


7.) 07 May 2024 10:49:15
Ports they can't at this time. Just need to be patient.


8.) 07 May 2024 11:17:16
Why can’t they Ken? Finances?


9.) 07 May 2024 11:28:50
Yeah, I’m not sure why they can’t? Bayern did with Tuchel?


10.) 07 May 2024 11:30:34
Would they sack a manager before a cup final? If that's the route they go down it will be after the final whistle, van Gaal style.
Anyone else spit their drink out when Carragher suggested bringing in Ole for the final three games?


11.) 07 May 2024 11:35:18
Yes Tim that's a large part of the reason I'm sure.
I'm not privy to his contact details but a new financial year starts 1st July they can't take the financial hit on this year's books due to psr.
4 games to go. It's not too long to wait.


12.) 07 May 2024 12:05:24
Feels like an eternity. It’s going to a painful 4 games I’m sure.


13.) 07 May 2024 18:17:05
Just as I thought ken ? ?.


 

 

25 Nov 2023 15:28:41
Is football just getting duller. I'm not sure is it the saturation of news everyday now or VAR, or everybody wanting to play the same bloody style, or maybe I absolutely hate the way united play or even try to play but its hard to enjoy a game the way I used to. Maybe I'm just getting old and think everything was better before.

Banjoe

1.) 25 Nov 2023 16:07:34
I agree it is duller

No characters, poor refereeing, crap atmospheres and overpaid whingers

Over saturated media and crap pundits

Not much going for it really.


2.) 25 Nov 2023 18:30:43
I remember when I first started going to football and many of the older people used to say the same thing about the game not being like it was in the 60s or 70s.

Same thing in motor racing, cricket, rugby, but it is not just sports.

At work, when I joined, the old boys used to say how it wasn't like it was in the 70s and 80s. My uncle in the same job said when he joined the old boys used to say it wasn't like it was after the war.

Now I'm the dinosaur and I tell the nippers stories about how great things were back when I joined.

Gotta love swinging the lantern.


3.) 25 Nov 2023 21:24:23
Not full of your a city fan or arsenal or even Brighton who are at an all time sustained high.
I agree that the game is changed players are not in touch with the fans.
Refs have been destroyed by var and tv.
The games are not that dull excluding our own of course but I can't watch any of the pre or post game nonsense.


4.) 26 Nov 2023 03:23:27
I don't think it's football, I think it's just the premier league.

Go down to the championship or lower divisions and you'll see more passion, atmosphere, exciting games and believe it or not, better officiating all without VAR.


5.) 26 Nov 2023 05:30:19
Went to watch Stockport County when in UK. Week before Brighton at OT.

The atmosphere was incredible, good hard, no quarter football by both teams. Great game as well!

And whilst we are on the subject of rubbish pre and post game discussions. What on earth is this XG rubbish? Absolute B. S stats to give these clowns something to dribble on about. We have a commentator here in Oz (Andy Harper) . He can put more words together to make a point than Shappy?.


6.) 26 Nov 2023 08:17:13
Blimey Keefy but that Andy Harper must be something else!
???.


7.) 26 Nov 2023 08:36:37
Chuckle. Just a good humour dig. ?.


8.) 26 Nov 2023 09:13:10
Duller, perhaps, characters are less colourful and many things have changed. Players are fitter, stronger healthier but more brittle. Physical changes mean they run more and in effect make the pitch smaller. Tactically more aware and fouling has become snide at times. I miss the full blooded challenge that actually wins the ball, not the kicking we used to get years ago. VAR is a joke, seemingly aimed to find reasons to disallow the aim of the game, score goal. 5 mins before you can celebrate a goal. Ridiculous.

The main change seems to be the don’t lose being first aim mentality, then ensure a win, then entertain in that order. Ole Gunner Southgate is an example. Football in the past was played to win, the change in mentality to being afraid of what would happen when losing, added to by expectations of everything wanted to happen immediately and the woke drivel invading sport, has made a difference.


 

 

16 Nov 2021 18:52:05
The reason I liked to read this page was for people's opinions on our favourite club but the anger and name calling against Ole is to much now. Ken has had a few abusive tirades against him as if Ole had personally aggrieved him. It's not right. Ole is a poor manager but a man with a family, who I think is a decent man. Since when has it been acceptable to dehumanise our manager with unfounded dramatic drivel. But I guess Ken can say what he likes on here.

Banjoe

1.) 16 Nov 2021 19:23:04
Call a spade a spade and all that. See nothing wrong with Ken's comments at all. He's said nothing directed to him personally or his family. His opinion of ole has boiled over to hate for the man. And rightly so. Oles an idiot. Hence why I call him the borewegian fraud.


2.) 16 Nov 2021 19:26:10
It's a tricky one. Certainly it isn't nice to read, but then neither is the Daily Mail and we can't get that banned unfortunately ?

Ken is entitled to his opinion and if the Ed's deem it inoffensive and not inappropriate then so be it.

I think it's fair to say that I think a lot of United fans are very frustrated at the moment and as such that frustration often boils over into anger. I can only imagine the the stuff the Ed's have to wade through and delete after a loss. Not a job I'd do so kudos for them for doing it so that we can enjoy this site.

Ole is definitely a poor manager, no doubt about that. From what I've read and my interpretation of him from his interviews he seems like a decent guy. Much like Steve Bruce at Newcastle he probably doesn't deserve half the abuse he gets and certainly a few probably take it too far and get personal.

I suppose it's a free world and people are allowed to have an opinion and to voice that opinion. Even if sometimes we don't like what we hear. Personally I wouldn't want it any other way.

In the end much like me not reading the Daily Mail we have a duty to ourselves to self-censor the things we don't want to read. If a particular poster regularly posts things you don't want to read then don't read their posts is probably the best advice I could give.


3.) 16 Nov 2021 19:53:50
Hate? Really? Sorry, but I'll reserve that particular emotion for people who actually deserve it. You know, like Hitler and other assorted scumbags. Not a football manager, just because he's not good at his job.


4.) 16 Nov 2021 20:22:54
Ultimately its just sport, nobody is dying. Ole is out of his depth but the vitriol aimed at him is unnecessary and distasteful. It may be someone's opinion bit that doesn't make it OK I thought United fans were better than that but it appears not all of them are.


5.) 16 Nov 2021 20:23:06
Shappy, for once, completely agree with that post. Kudos for that one.


6.) 16 Nov 2021 20:26:43
In fairness to Ken he's said from day one he doesn't buy into the nice guy persona of Ole. The manager has a long list of qualities that don't sit right with me too. As for posters getting upset, what he said was not nearly as bad as some portrayed and certainly doesn't deserve it's own thread.

It would be nice to see the stuff Jose was called in comparison. No one was dropping their monocles in disgust then.


7.) 16 Nov 2021 21:06:28
I have a great regard for Ken and agree with much of the thrust of his comments.
However, recently I finding myself wanting to distance myself from the increasingly offensive tone.
Ken, if you continue with this intemperate language you only demean yourself and make others far less likely to read what you are actually saying behind the words.


8.) 16 Nov 2021 21:22:55
Your right banjoe I can say what I like as long as the editors find it fit to print I have little or no posts not posted.
Ajh you thought united fans were better than that. Ha ha do you not hear the songs they sing and have been singing for years. I know you think you are above all that but your not 100% you are not. I know you are possibly the most egotistical of poster's.
I don't hate ole I don't know him personally. I hate the fact he is manager of Manchester United I don't deem him fit for purpose I would slate his attempts to do the most basic parts of his job. I don't like his traits I don't like his demeanour I don't like the fact that he is so inarticulate that he is an embarrassment on the club imo.
There are posters on here that are far worse people I'd imagine than ole but it's a big world room for everyone imo. But I won't refrain from voicing my opinion.
Ajh if you find my words distasteful or offensive I'm happy enough with that it's not a popularity contest on here and nor should it be.
Many times you have advised others to pass over and don't read posts they don't like. Take some of your own advice fella stop being a moan and don't apply so many double standards.


9.) 16 Nov 2021 20:56:02
Nice of you to play wing man Mumbles, but Jose didn't get the personal abuse Ole is getting.

Highlighting issues around approach and style is one thing, as is focusing on fall outs, but personal abuse because you don't like someone isn't. No biggie, but certainly needs calling out.


10.) 16 Nov 2021 20:57:54
Red whiskey, he called him a lying toe rag and a **** bag. I'd say that's directed as personally as it gets.


11.) 16 Nov 2021 21:49:39
Wow. The OP wasn't mine but Ken replies to me. Sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and accept you might have been wrong but again you make it personal and focus on me, ignoring the posts of others.

You come across like an alpha male with a small d1ck. Get over yourself and admit you might have been in the wrong tiny.


12.) 16 Nov 2021 23:14:40
I don't think it was a civil as you make out AJH. Either way I stand by my point that everyone getting their knickers in a twist over Kens comments are acting very precious.

I just find the irony in your posts hilarious. Moaning Inception. A moan within a moan within a moan moaning about moans. You give out to Ken for naming you in a post when he didnt, then you do the same to me. Now you're upset with Ken calling someone names only for you to call him names.

The vibe on the page is poor because we're all fed up. I get it. I just think out of all the things we as a collective have argued about, this is probably the biggest waste of time.


13.) 16 Nov 2021 23:15:07
Guys, please let's stop this line of posting.
Ken was just voicing his anger at the manager, and to be fair, most of us feel angry towards the club and management including solskjaer.
Of course non of us "hate" solskjaer personally, but some of us are very aggrieved at his constant lies and inaccurate post match interviews, when it was clear to see that we were utter tripe.
A bit of honesty from our manager would not go amiss.


14.) 17 Nov 2021 00:08:14
So Ajh I'm fine with how I come across to you or anybody.
But please once again reflect on your earlier post when you criticise crass language against someone you don't know or ever met. Yet here you are doing the same thing.
Double standards or are you also an alpha male with a small one?
?? really you are just the same although I'm your ole. ?? you just can't see that you are no different no superior not above anything not capable of practising what you preach and profess to dislike. You then throw out the personal insults, you know the toxic ones you dislike so much and as a united fan you think your above. Really put a smile on my face nearly matches your posts moaning about moaning posts.
Brilliant.


15.) 17 Nov 2021 00:46:02
Lol. Ole doesn't deserve to be defended. If he believed that his so called legendary status would spare him, then he's sadly mistaken. No sympathy for Ole. Once it's about his ineptitude as a manager, he deserves all the abuse/ criticism directed at him. He has no one to blame but himself for his lack of progress/ development as a manager, and for his stubbornness for persisting with out of form players trying to prove everyone wrong just to satisfy his foolish pride. He's lack of leadership skills is a detriment to this club and the sooner he goes the better.


 

 

 

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19 Aug 2024 09:54:44
Welbeck would be great around the place, ports but like quite a few other ex players, he was hurt with the way he felt united treated him. I doubt he would come back.

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26 Jun 2024 05:53:09
Morata doesn't want to live in England.

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12 Jun 2024 17:05:25
To be fair weed, I'd say the review would have been a lot harder on him had he not won the fa cup. I'm glad he's staying but I don't want any whinging about injuries or anything else next season.

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18 Feb 2025 15:17:52
I often wonder what it would have been like if these types of pundits were tearing apart performances from Maldini, Zidane and the like. I don't like any of them.

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17 Feb 2025 07:34:46
Well he's killing everyone else's progress. The players are to blame, no doubt but he has done nothing to improve this team, they look miserable on the pitch, Garnacho looks like the weight of the world is on him and would have scored those chances with ease last season. I don't care what system he wants to play but he is making players worse. It looks ridiculous to watch. Amorim is a mistake and will get sacked.

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16 Feb 2025 22:23:09
It's going to stay that way for a while too. The defence concede easily, the attack can't score, the midfield doesn't exist and an idiot goalkeeper. May as well get used to it.

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13 Feb 2025 19:24:15
Maybe it's just british footballers, I know of lots of people that have moved to Europe for a better life and picked up the language.

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06 Feb 2025 07:47:32
Germansuppclub, I'm glad I'm not the only one with doubts over Mazouri, I don't think he's done anything since he got here and Ugarte can win a challenge but his passing is poor. Again not much upgrade with signings.

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