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21 Apr 2024 13:50:05
Talk in papers this morning that eth might resign if not offered a new contract before the season start next year.
I think that would be for the best. Hoping there is some truth in this.
1.) 21 Apr 2024 16:45:06
I don’t know how the newspaper can know what he’s thinking. And I very much doubt he’s the type of man to play games against the club via contacts in the media. So most likely rubbish.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 18:49:27
Not really sure he’s in any position to negotiate his future.
3.) 21 Apr 2024 21:10:09
Wazza it came from Simon Mullock at the daily mail. He often gets briefed by SEG who are ten hag’s agents.
Either way- Ed told us a long time ago he may be offered the change to resign with a severance. So I’m not shocked to see such a report.
4.) 21 Apr 2024 22:13:50
I think it's very much in the cards caolan.
Did you not post Barcelona bayern and ajax were considering eth wazza?
5.) 22 Apr 2024 00:30:49
Ken no idea I don’t keep a log, but weren’t they all rumoured to be interested in ETH at some point?
6.) 22 Apr 2024 02:25:37
After yesterday’s debacle, I’ma go out on a limb and say that ENEOS won’t be offering him a new contract. Tbf though, I don’t think he’ll be all that bothered. There are plenty of circuses around these days, so it’s not like he’s going to be short of options after he leaves.
7.) 22 Apr 2024 10:34:18
He could do tik tok videos on how to look like a garden gnome and how to get an epl team playing like garden gnomes.
He could be a garden gnome influencer.
8.) 22 Apr 2024 17:48:19
He shouldn't even be on the shortlist to replace Fred the Red. Dead man walking.
9.) 22 Apr 2024 18:00:24
No managers resign nowadays they just await their pay offs and you can’t really blame them. But the decision already made months ago that he is gone, but this is just paving the way to hold his head up.
But like I said, no epl clubs will be fighting to get him, so that says all you need to know about ETH.
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29 Apr 2024 16:58:11
Mad stat.
Since 20/ 21 season Shaw has missed more games injured than martial.
1.) 29 Apr 2024 18:29:29
Both a waste of space
I sincerely hope these rumours are true about the entire squad are up for sale barring 3 players
If it is i doth my cap to SJR.
2.) 29 Apr 2024 18:55:01
Difference is Shaw is great when he plays - but get your point. We need far more reliability at full back to form a solid back 4 and provide attacking width.
22 Apr 2024 11:03:57
I must admit I missed it after the game yesterday but i see that Anthony is taking a load of flak for cupping his ear towards the Coventry players at the end of the shootout.
I've seen the footage and pics this morning.
Seems to be a story out of nothing. I agree it was not very humble in the moment and it lacks class.
But like a lot of fans a lot of players are pretty stupid, uneducated and unnecessarily hostile and a lot of them do lack or certainly display a lack of class and decency on a weekly basis.
1.) 22 Apr 2024 11:15:40
All the focus is on Antony because he's a Manchester United player. Had it gone the other way and a Coventry player did it, no one would have even cared or commented.
No one knows whether one of them had said something to him during the game and it was a reaction.
It's just media garbage making everything about United because they have nothing else to talk about.
2.) 22 Apr 2024 11:30:25
Ken, couldn't agree more. It's not my cuppa tea if i'm honest but I've seen a lot worse over the years. Also, people acting like Coventry are a bunch of part timers, 2 of their players are on £25,000 a week, nearly made it to the Premier League last season, most of their lads will have been at higher level clubs at some point. I reckon they'll be ok, not sure why we continue the need to be offended for other people.
I was more cheesed off that Hojlund scored the penalty and only Eriksen went up to him!
3.) 22 Apr 2024 12:57:27
I’ve seen bits that he only did that in reaction and aimed to Haji Wright who did it to the Utd fans after his penalty.
Yes it’s classless, but it’s also a whole story of nothing.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 13:06:33
Ports
I picked that up, Hojland sticks away a massively high pressure penalty yet the players didn’t bother celebrating with him. Not sure I have seen anything like it.
5.) 22 Apr 2024 13:16:38
Didn’t a Coventry player put his hand to his ear after scoring his penalty? Where is the uproar?
6.) 22 Apr 2024 13:34:05
It was a daft thing for Anthony to do but it's just as daft if anybody tries to make a story out of it.
One things for sure, it wasn't eth's fault.
7.) 22 Apr 2024 15:03:32
The reason most of the players didn't run to celebrate was because most of them went straight to the Coventry players to console them. I thought that showed class apart from that clown Antony.
8.) 22 Apr 2024 15:56:50
If they had all ran off celebrating i’d have thrown the remote through the tv. Scraping through on penalties after being 3-0 up to Coventry. They should have been ashamed and probably were a little bit hence the lack of real celebration.
Antony put his hands to his ears though? So what. The Coventry players were probably calling him all sorts whilst he was on the pitch, and rightly so he’s pretty sh*t, but if they were then you have to expect some kind of reaction from him at some point. He didn't headbutt anyone .
9.) 22 Apr 2024 17:57:21
Anthony is one of the worst players I've seen in last 25 years-and seems to be a bit of a moron - but if he wants to cup his ear to the fans that were booing and shouting insults at him as oppostion fans tend to do then no problem.
Little has been made of the Coventry keeper also mouthing off at each United player as they were getting ready to take a penalty. just got to be proffessional enough to rise above it.
10.) 22 Apr 2024 21:09:35
Brendan, it wasn’t really about celebrating the win though for me, it was more about a young lad who’s been working his sock off for the team scoring an important penalty with a lot of pressure on and turning round to see no one! Felt like it just showed a disconnect within the team.
11.) 23 Apr 2024 20:50:47
I’m not sure it was Ports tbh. I think they didn’t want to be seen to be celebrating too wildly as the job should have been done an hour earlier. They knew they would get slated by the media and United fans alike, and rightly so. Embarrassment played a big part I think.
I don’t blame Hojlund for celebrating immediately after his penalty, as it was a pressure penalty at Wembley in a semi final and he is a young lad. But once he turned around he probably remembered the rest of the shambles of a game and understood why no one was running around celebrating. Apart from Antony ?.
22 Apr 2024 10:13:01
There is every chance that Shaw and martinez could be back in time for the fa cup final.
I have a good feeling about the final .
Shaw and martinez are probably the only 2 changes eth would make to his starting 11 from yesterday despite a the big whoo Haa about injuries 9 of his preferred 11 were available and started.
Between now and then we have have a good run of fixtures which will give every opportunity to eth to showcase his man management and motivational abilities.
2 practically relegated teams next up at old Trafford a great chance to look at options and get some rhythm in our play.
1.) 22 Apr 2024 10:56:45
I think the next two games we have to give a bit of a run out to see what Amad and even Harry Amass can do.
2.) 22 Apr 2024 15:56:34
Pretty sure cassemiro wouldn't be playing at CB in his ideal scenario. It would be varane, martinez, shaw and Dalot back four, with cassemiro in midfield instead of mctominay.
3.) 22 Apr 2024 17:13:46
I'm sure you're waiting for someone to suggest that we're still fighting for a European spot Tumble so not the time to be giving debuts to 6 year olds.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 19:37:09
Spenno I think the European spot is vital for multitude of reasons. I never understand why some would rather not be in one of the lower comps.
I never suggested paying 6 year olds.
We have 4 or weeks to the cup final with some poor opposition it's a great chance to get a good rhythm to our game and look at our options. A few wins will not only impact our position but also help confidence going into a difficult final. If they lose the league before that final the pressure on them ramps up.
I'm backing us to beat City.
17 Apr 2024 19:20:16
Looking forward to the weekend.
Our whole season rests on this game on Sunday. Winning keeps our season alive until the final day. Its motivating for the squad they know they will all be fighting for a starting spot in the final. Martinez or Shaw could be back by then.
Can any of us say we are more than 80% confident.
1.) 17 Apr 2024 19:59:51
Nobody can Ken. Cov are decent passing side and on the day who knows. We’re pretty awful this season’.
2.) 17 Apr 2024 22:02:57
80% Ken that’s optimistic…I’m at around 60% ??.
3.) 18 Apr 2024 00:06:43
I'm confident. I think our players will rise to the occasion. That is also why I want half of them gone. They need to play in all games, not just when they choose.
Cant believe I am reading that sancho might consider coming back. What a piece of work. I don't want that stain anywhere near our club. I seriously hope the fanbase it not about to blame everything that is wrong on EtH and give everyone else a pass. We need to clean house and then move forward as one club under a new structure. No thanks to any players our on loan coming back.
4.) 18 Apr 2024 00:30:06
Obviously not talking about developmental loans. But the older players sent away on loan should not come back IMO.
5.) 18 Apr 2024 09:13:39
You can never be 100% but I'm 99% on this we'll be in the final, then humiliated in the final.
6.) 18 Apr 2024 15:42:48
I'm as confident as I can be too spenno. Better players more experience not much coming from the club this week which means there is good focus as you'd expect.
7.) 19 Apr 2024 09:31:54
At the risk of eating my words, and yes I appreciate it is the FA Cup semis, but it is also Coventry .
17 Apr 2024 10:50:50
Can I ask who are the toxic players throwing eth under the bus? Who has downed tools and creating dangerous cliques in the dressing room?
I see this spoken about regularly but I'm not sure who this bunch of players are.
I see a team made up primarily of only eth and ole players.
Outside of rash mctom and Shaw nobody else relevant goes back past ole.
So who is throwing eth under the bus this season particularly recently?
1.) 17 Apr 2024 11:45:35
I must admit unlike under Ole and Jose I don't see a group of players who are not trying or trying to get the manager sacked.
Two main points why we are not succeeding this season:
1.) We have been decimated with injuries in concentrated areas of the pitch (centre back and left back) .
2.) The manager has been too stubborn with his tactics, I appreciate the plan was to push on from a successful first season and become a more attacking, dominant team with this effective 4-1-5 system but it hasn't worked and that was obvious in September. We are too open and concede so many chances it has become farcical to watch of late.
We are still persisting with this in April, should have gone back to a more defensive set up and seen the season out and make top 4.
2.) 17 Apr 2024 11:52:16
I guess it's just a figure of speech that people have jumped on in recent times rather than meaning any specific names. Although two of those names you mention have frequently been seen walking around the pitch in recent times in periods of play that have led to goals, if that (lack of effort) is what can count as throwing the gaffa under the bus.
3.) 17 Apr 2024 14:46:51
I don't think anyone is throwing him under anything. His tactics mean we can be dangerous with the ball and without it we have massive holes through the middle and at full back due to the full back attempting to assist midfield. That and players just not up to the job.
4.) 17 Apr 2024 14:54:51
I agree spenno it's a figure if speech that gets thrown around with little or no substance.
We have chosen managers badly.
Moyes won nothing of note since and had a couple more sackings.
Lvg has hardly had a job since.
Jose fired a couple of times since and won nothing of note.
Ole not had a job since.
Blind herrera Di Maria sanchez mata darmian lukaku mhyikatarian all have won titles since they were deemed useless players.
We have had bad managers maybe a couple we got post their sell by date.
But they have not got much from any of their new clubs either before being fired again but here some are still blaming the players.
It's not all down to the players.
Alonso took a team in Germany from bottom to top in 2 years spending a fraction and in the main with the group he inherited.
Good coaches get players playing above their ability collectively as a team no matter what the circumstance.
I agree we have had our share of iffy players but all the managers have failed since the same can't be said of all the players.
It's the managers job to get the best out of his squad.
5.) 17 Apr 2024 21:19:04
Any manager worth his salt can get a tune out of any players, especially professionals playing in the EPL.
I get we have injuries but the players remaining are, on paper, better than most of the teams in the league and should therefore be perfectly able to understand reasonable instruction.
The fact we have been shown how to play by far worst teams from a player ability perspective speaks volumes.
6.) 17 Apr 2024 22:19:48
Tumble what are you smoking?
- Moyes was poor at Sociedad and Sunderland but has done a very good job at West Ham. Probably their most successful manager in 30 years.
- LvG left in his 60s and had a great stint with the Netherlands before retiring due for health.
- Jose didn’t do anything at Spurs and won a minor European cup with Roma, ironically the same cup as Moyes.
- Ole has said he’s not interested in a new role and received multiple offers.
Anyone would fail under the management structure above, the same people who hired EtH and this rogues gallery incidentally.
Losing the dressing room is a euphemism for not being liked and not being able to get the best out of the players.
Hopefully the new team can find the correct coach to lead us to better things.
22 Apr 2024 15:05:36
The merry go round of reports if managers in talks with us will continue all the way through till the end of the season. There is rarely any substance to them.
Big week for real Madrid we are linked with Zidane. England play its Southgate. We play Brentford and wolves it o Neil or Frank, wait for the frnzy around de zerbi for our last game of the season. Bayern make cl semi its tuchel and on and on it goes. Its all garbage.
At the moment eth is the manager.
We don't even know for sure if he will be here or gone next season.
I don't expect anything will be any clearer until well after the cup final.
Until then I expect it to be 'business as usual' and trying to keep everything as low profile as possible between now and then.
We all have our own hopes and expectations and enjoy speculating on what might happen.
Personally I have no preference at this point I think when it's clear on whether the job is available it will become very clear who the possible candidates are.
22 Apr 2024 10:34:18
He could do tik tok videos on how to look like a garden gnome and how to get an epl team playing like garden gnomes.
He could be a garden gnome influencer.
22 Apr 2024 10:32:23
The decision on eth has been made weeks ago. No doubt about it.
21 Apr 2024 22:13:50
I think it's very much in the cards caolan.
Did you not post Barcelona bayern and ajax were considering eth wazza?
19 Apr 2024 19:38:19
Good news. Big job and big opportunity for him.
Ashworth is proving to be more difficult than anticipated but hopefully we can get him in for this summer too.
It's doubtful as it's a bit of a stalemate situation by all accounts.
29 Apr 2024 20:11:46
I was never going for that and I don't think most people were.
28 Apr 2024 00:15:56
Not at all caolan. They dig in and are mostly better when behind for some reason. But liking fit positives is slim pickings at the mind moment.
We shouldn't have to be lauding then for sticking at it.
Eth imo has not lost all the players to be fair to him.
27 Apr 2024 23:51:45
Im Not stressed at all jimbo this is my hobby supporting united. Well one of them.
I'm very well aware of the process we need to umberto from a structural point of view.
I know it's not a quick fix I don't expect one at all.
2 / season of continuous improvement. A team and coach the fans can identify with. That will take time.
Eth is in my opinion not the fan to k lead us.
The people in charge of this new process did not put him in and I feel its inevitable that he goes in the summer.
I'm OK and more confidant and comfortable if they put their own man in. I think they will be too.
If that sets us back a year I'm OK with that. It's a great opportunity for the right man.
27 Apr 2024 19:49:30
Just one more fundamental error.
He will do that 6 or 8 times a season. At ajax it didn't matter they were 3 up.
He will cost more points than he saves ed002 has told us we are looking to bring a new keeper in. That's because this guy is miles off what a keeper should be at this level. We had our pants well and truly pulled down here.
He is not in the same class as ddg one of our best ever keepers.
27 Apr 2024 19:43:50
Yes DB I disagree.