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14 Aug 2025 11:54:01
Looks like collyer going on loan to West brom
Good for him hope he does well.
1.) 14 Aug 2025 14:11:45
Best idea for him at hopefully a top championship club. Will either mean he comes back ready to compete or we are able to sell on.
Good luck to him.
2.) 14 Aug 2025 15:30:34
Even more depleted in central midfield then. Surely there has to be another coming in.
3.) 14 Aug 2025 16:13:37
If you believe Cameroonian media outlets, then there is ballons!
4.) 14 Aug 2025 16:42:32
Even before Collyer we were light in midfield, maybe not from a numbers point of view, but certainly in terms of the quality needed in that area.
We would have Casemiro, Ugarte, Mainoo, Bruno in his likely new role and then from youth we would have Kone when he recovers. All for 2 spots. Bruno is a guarantee starter, so it’s one more needed. Unfortunately none of the others have the skills or talent required. So a new player is definitely needed.
I would say there is 0.1% chance of Baleba happening due to the £100m+ valuation.
Seen Wharton mentioned recently, but I’d imagine Palace will have a similar valuation. So probably another with zero chance.
Guess it’s down to whether the club want to go with a player way down their list of targets or wait it out until next season.
I’m hoping they break the bank for Baleba, but I’m not hopeful.
5.) 14 Aug 2025 18:54:08
Why zero chance fall guy have you been listening to the back of fag packet know it alls on here about we have no money!
6.) 14 Aug 2025 20:19:21
While I'd like to think that Collyer going on loan must mean we are signing a midfielder I sadly expect that it was always the case that one of Collyer or Kone would go out on loan to get game time this season.
We play with a midfield pivot, meaning there will only be two places up for grabs. Which without European games reduces the amount of rotation we need to make.
We have Casemiro, Ugarte, Bruno and Mainoo nailed down as the four senior options. Really we need one youth option who will play under 23's most weeks but can come into the first team squad for some games to cover for injuries.
They seem to have made the decision to keep Kone with the squad and develop him in house this season. They seemed to come to this conclusion while on tour, which makes sense that a couple of weeks after we've got back we are hearing about loan deals being lined up for Collyer.
That said I still think we will sign Baleba. I just think that one of Collyer or Kone was always going to go out on loan regardless this season to get the senior game time they need.
7.) 14 Aug 2025 20:54:14
Didn’t say zero chance. Almost zero though.
It’s been widely reported that Brighton will want north of £100m. Although this is unconfirmed it’s likely fairly true based on what Chelsea paid for Caicedo.
They don’t have to sell so are unlikely to reduce the price.
United aren’t going out spending that kind of money this window.
21 Jul 2025 17:36:44
Looks like vietek and Harrison are both leaving on loan again. Really important for young keepers to get experience.
There was some suggestions on here that they play a part of our 1st team squad this season. I for one am glad that's not happening i hope they both get good game time and start learning their trade. Its the one position that we rarely young kids get experience in the epl.
1.) 21 Jul 2025 17:50:05
It was clear they both need loan time, no way we can stick a rookie in goal, Chido needs to go loan too, he not ready to be our number 9 1st or 2nd choice.
I know some think pick the kids, but really probably only 1 maybe 2 might be good enough.
They need the experience I would say the same with Leon too, he is not Roberto Carlos like he thinks, quit yet.
2.) 21 Jul 2025 19:49:11
Agree on obi but not Leon he had been playing mens diurnal for a year so a bit ahead. Only saw him for 45 min but he looks very aggressive and maturity in his play beyond his age.
Wide areas are also easier for younger players in a lot of cases.
3.) 22 Jul 2025 00:40:50
Are you already suggesting Leon has an attitude issue? Why does he think he’s roberto Carlos?
4.) 22 Jul 2025 09:44:14
I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that the academy keepers be first choice, just given a run out in pre-season to see if they could be a squad option if needed.
Although I fully agree that they are much better placed having a loan for a season and playing mens football regularly.
Chido in an ideal world would also be better off with a loan, but with a dearth of options at the club then he will probably get more chances here this season then he probably should at this stage.
Diego Leon has been playing senior football for a while and is far more ready than the others mentioned. Like Ken said playing wide is also easier for young players with less pressure. It might have only been 45 minutes but he does look more ready to play at this level than Amass does. So I can understand why the club are looking to loan Amass and keep Leon.
Ultimately all youngsters will have rough edges to their game that needs rounding out, and they will make mistakes. How they learn from them ultimately determines the player they become.
We have a lot of talented young players in our first team squad, players like Yoro, Heaven, Fredricson, Dorgu, Leon, Mainoo, Collyer, Kone, Amad, Chido and Højlund.
Not all will make it at the highest level, even the ones that ultimately do, will make mistakes along the way.
We need to get behind them and support them rather than tear them down, I can assure you they will do that enough by themselves. We forget what it was like to be a young man trying to find his place in the world, second guessing ourselves, and repeatedly going over our mistakes. Even the ones who portray confidence bordering on arrogance are internally questioning themselves.
I also think that this modern world of social media only amplifies the negatives around people and their actions. Which given the way the younger generations are glued to their phones probably makes it that much harder for young footballers who will likely see a lot of the negative options on them that float around social media.
I do know of a couple of young EPL footballers whose management team around them ban the player from all social media for 3 days after they play any senior game to protect them both from the negatives and the hype that tends to follow. To give them space to reflect on their performance themselves and with they're coaches to form their opinions before they get influenced by the views on social media.
As fans as supposed "supporters" we probably should think before we type in frustration. Will our anger and negativity have a positive effect if the young player reads it? Probably not, in reality it'll probably have a negative impact. Especially if it is one of thousands saying the same thing.
Players in their mid-twenties with over 200 professional games under their belt should have the emotional maturity and experience to handle criticism and to be able to put it in context. Teenagers or lads just entering their twenties will likely not yet have that emotional maturity or experience.
Maybe imagine that if the player was your son, how would you want thousands of people to react, and what would you want them to say about a poor performance from him? Then maybe respond like that.
The best advice I ever received was "a wise man stays silent when angry" as words said in anger cannot be taken back, and often cause irreparable damage.
5.) 22 Jul 2025 21:34:23
German how do you know what Leon thinks?
6.) 23 Jul 2025 06:32:00
Ken the same way you seem to know how we all think!
7.) 23 Jul 2025 21:40:53
Great to see you can read and write Shappy :-)
I was one of those who suggested lifting some youth to the first team, and also supplementing with a Lammens or Garcia - with the view that both Onana and Bayendir were being shipped out - that isn't the case now it seems.
For those who can't read - try to read between the lines and you may be less obtrusive in your responses.
8.) 24 Jul 2025 10:37:40
Jimbo, I think at the end of the season there was a lot of unknowns around our keepers.
Heaton was out of contract, Bayindir showed himself to not being up to challenging Onana. While Onana continued to struggle (although I do feel that it is being overstated/ hyped about how much he has struggled) .
Under such circumstances where we could have lost all three first team keepers it made perfect sense to bring in two new keepers and promote an academy keeper to be third choice. However, that isn't what has happened.
While I don't think Onana is anywhere near as bad as he is being made out, he will need replacing. The trouble is that we won't be able to move him on this year. Partially because of his high wages and the fee we paid for him means we need a significant fee for him. But also because the hype in the press and on social media about how poor he's been will have put off any potential buyers.
That's something we don't consider enough as fans, but what we say about our players online does reverberate across the football landscape more so than a lot of other fan bases. We are partially responsible for creating the narrative around our players and that narrative will impact potential buyers for our players.
This was definitely the case when it came to selling Mason Greenwood. The noise out fans made around him and the whole situation only added fuel to the fire which definitely impacted other clubs who were looking at him. We helped create the negativity around him that made fans of other clubs not want him to sign for their club which definitely put some teams off as they didn't want the public backlash from their fans.
Look at Nicolas Jackson for example, he's a very good player, but one who struggles with one aspect as a striker. Yet the majority of the negativity around him online doesn't actually come from Chelsea fans. As such they will still be able to get a good fee for him (more than they paid for him) . Now if he'd been at United for the past couple of seasons he'd probably be spoken about in a similar way to how Højlund has been. Which would make it almost impossible for us to sell him for even what we paid for him let alone a profit.
We want to sell Højlund, but can anyone hand on heart say that if they were in charge of another club and having heard what United fans say about him that they would be interested in signing him?
Ultimately some signings work out and others don't. United fans have a habit of writing off every one that doesn't as the biggest flop in history and speak about them like they aren't even Sunday league level.
Yet in reality a lot of our "flops" in recent years have gone on to be successful elsewhere.
I suspect many of Onana, Antony, Rashford, and Højlund etc will have very successful careers when they leave us.
Yet all have been spoken about by United fans as if it's a miracle that they ever managed to become professional footballers.
With Onana now unlikely to leave and with Heaton signing a new one year deal it looks like Bayindir will be the only one to leave. With us looking to sign a higher quality keeper to come in and challenge Onana for the No.1 spot. Which gives us no room in the first team squad for a young academy keeper, so it's best they leave on loan.
With a bit of luck the new keeper we sign this summer steps up and takes Onana's place and then he moves on next summer. Probably along with Heaton retiring. At which point with two keepers leaving we sign one and promote one of the lads who have hopefully had a good season on loan this year.
9.) 26 Jul 2025 05:51:04
It’s not the fans so much, but the Manager and RA in this respect as devalued his own players considerably, TBF no one pays much attention to fans ramblings when they are buying or valuing a player, but they certainly do to a fellow professional (manager) when he says they have crap attitude, not good at this or that, that certainly devalues a player, did he think he was adding millions to there value with such naive remarks!
RA not helped himself here.
18 Jul 2025 17:42:47
Amass left out of pre season tour. Either a loan or full sale incoming. Leon is impressing in training apparently.
1.) 18 Jul 2025 18:08:53
Not really a surprise.
I like Amass, but he does seem to lack that physical edge for the EPL - hopefully he just goes out on loan, maybe that could bring out that extra level.
For the sake of his career though, in light of how quickly Leon is settling and showing, he needs regular minutes.
Best of luck to him.
2.) 18 Jul 2025 19:19:22
Send him to Blackburn and toughen him up ? i like him, there's talent there.
3.) 18 Jul 2025 20:27:24
Sell him with a few clauses inserted.
4.) 18 Jul 2025 20:40:32
He's going on loan I believe.
5.) 18 Jul 2025 21:16:59
The last young left back we sold has ended up at Real Madrid….
6.) 18 Jul 2025 21:26:38
I'd imagine a loan, he's got talent, he's just a little lightweight right now. He needs to grow into his body, that'll take time.
7.) 18 Jul 2025 21:48:39
I think that’s fair Shappy. He looks too small right now. Some adult first team action elsewhere will sort that out.
8.) 19 Jul 2025 03:20:58
If I was a betting man, I would say Leon will have cemented his position as LWB by Xmas. Dorgu will be understudy. Come next summer, the conundrum will be do we stick or twist with Amass/ Dorgu. 3 into 2 doesn't work.
9.) 19 Jul 2025 10:05:35
He is not going to be sold, a loan to a Championship team is the intention.
They want him playing regularly, he needs this to happen as physicality is his issue, not ability.
He is still highly regarded at the club. Indeed one of the reasons Alvaro Carreras was allowed to leave was that the club felt that Amass had a higher potential ability ceiling. Also, it needs to be remembered that Alvaro requested a transfer and the club would not want to keep a youngster who expressed a desire to leave.
10.) 19 Jul 2025 11:02:01
That's a bold statement to make about a player you have never even seen play before jimbo.
11.) 19 Jul 2025 11:39:25
Very bold statement, whilst I agree Dorgu will only be understudy, it’s something to say that’s to a player we never ever seen play regularly in the EPL, but of course the kid talks like he is Roberto Carlos just hope he can back it up. But to imagine he will be first choice is a stretch by Christmas… hope it’s right, but I think maybe wishful thinking more than reality.
12.) 19 Jul 2025 21:27:24
Ken/ GSC, he is competing against Dorgu who looks lost at times.
They will fight it out, but he looks the part, and talks the talk.
We will see by Xmas.
13.) 20 Jul 2025 01:40:45
Dorgu was the best player today, hopefully a sign of things to come now he’s settled, the kid is a workhorse.
14.) 20 Jul 2025 09:53:04
I think some people have been very quick to right Dorgu off. He was highly rated when he signed, and he clearly has all the right qualities to be a very successful signing.
But joining a club in January makes it very hard to for a player to be instantly successful. Vidic and Evra had a pretty poor start to their United careers after joining in January. While they also had the luxury of joining a very good United side full of quality players and under arguably our best ever manager. They were also several years older than Dorgu with far more experience to lean on and help them early on in their United career. Even with all of those extra benefits they still struggled, and arguably had less of an impact in their first 5 months as United players.
Dorgu looked very good yesterday. He is now more settled at the club, he is having a pre-season with us, getting to grips with the tactical demands from the manager, settling better with his teammates and building those on field relationships.
I think he'll have a very good season with us. Obviously he'll make mistakes from time to time and his performance levels will not be consistent, as you'd expect from any 20 year old. He'll cement his place as the first choice LWB this year.
Luke Shaw looks like he'll be played at LCB, which makes the most sense for me. The wingback positions is the most physically demanding position on the pitch, and while Shaw's skillset looks well suited to the role, we know his body doesn't stand up well to the physical demands at LB let alone the more demanding wingback role. Maybe playing LCB is his best chance of actually staying fit, although I feel that might just be a fools hope.
Amass will almost certainly head out on loan, he needs to play regularly at senior level to develop his physicality. He's a little on the small side, but the real problem is he doesn't know how to use his body at this level. His small stature should give him a lower centre of gravity and make him harder to push off the ball, but he doesn't know how to use his weight correctly right now and is getting bundled off the ball far too easily. A year in the championship should do him wonders.
Diego Leon impressed yesterday in spells, but was clearly still getting to grips with the club and the increase in speed and the physical demands in Europe compared to South America. I think he'll stay as the understudy to Dorgu this season.
Next summer depending on how both Leon and Amass have done the club will have a decision to make about whether to let one leave either permanently or on loan, or maybe both and look to buy another LWB if neither show that they have what is required.
Dorgu though I'm fairly confident will have shown himself to be a very good player for us by this time next year.
15.) 20 Jul 2025 16:08:39
Why do supporters try to judge players and likeness them to another from a past era. it’s quite pathetic If Dorgu becomes half the players Evra and Vidic was it will be something and we have to be fair he not looked great so far, I seem to remember someone mentioning Shaw was world class!
I know supporters love the romance of kids breaking through, some were even saying one of them for GK and Chido for striker neither are ready yet that’s quite clear
I still say pound to a penny, Dalot will be RB number 1 choice and Dorgu was only bought for back up
We need to buy some Pace and some experience, for CB Midfield and CF, they are all necessary 100%.
16.) 20 Jul 2025 21:50:43
I been told by a relative that Preston want him on loan for the season, good club, good fans have good links to all big clubs in NE.
17.) 20 Jul 2025 23:10:53
GSC your above post implies Dorgu is backup to Dalot. they play on opposite sides of the pitch fella.
18.) 23 Jul 2025 17:42:26
You need to read up on Dorgu and his favoured position from his own words.
Dorgu can play left or right, in fact states he prefers right, but I did not imply back up to where, just he bought to be a back up…simples.
23 Jun 2025 22:10:31
BBC reporting we are in advanced talks with al nassar for casimero. No figures mentioned. Maybe a gift for ronaldo signing his contract. Selling him for 10.m +And saving 18m on wages would be a dream result.
With the new financial year kicking in i think it likely we will see some sales and income coming in from 1st July.
They in turn will help unlock some expenditure. Should be a very busy 21 days.
1.) 24 Jun 2025 02:10:56
Kinda torn on this one. His best days are clearly behind him, and his wages far exceed the value that he adds to the team, but he at least cares about winning. He tries his best week in week out, which is more than can be said for most of the players at the club.
Obviously, we take the money, but there are plenty of players I’d rather see leave than Cas.
2.) 24 Jun 2025 06:01:08
Exactly Redseven, Cass is total professional, mind you you don’t get to win what he has without being…. Plenty I like to see shown the door before him, money side of it, is no concern of mine, too many people get hung up on the £££s the club don’t have no concerns about taking ridiculous money for me to attend, travel, buy a burger buy a pint, so why should I care about there finances, they employ accountants to do that…. my concern is a winning team.
3.) 24 Jun 2025 08:43:00
Casimero has been a great professional whilst with us and offers nothing but 100% and as we saw last year still can perform. However, we need to get legs in the middle of the park to allow us to play Fernandes or Mainoo in there so I am okay with him going, get wages off and bring in another player.
Would be happy with a midfield rotation of Fernandes, Mainoo, Ugarte, New signing, supplemented by Collyer and the youth players.
4.) 24 Jun 2025 09:15:06
People are hung up on the money though German because it impacts what the club can and cannot do within the transfer window. I don't think any of us have the greatest grasp on FFP and PSR but we do know the club is not in the best position financially so any sale of a player on high wages and any bid from Saudi you hope comes in over the odds is going to help with what the club can do in the window which leads to having a winning team, hopefully.
5.) 24 Jun 2025 16:25:15
Midfield of can’t pass a ball 10 yards headless chicken Ugarte and no legs or mobility Mainoo, with Collyer back up will be awful, as seen last months of the season Cass kept them all out the team, so that would be a step backwards imo…
so missing 25% of your games is good? Oh great….
6.) 24 Jun 2025 23:23:50
Maze would you get of your cross mate. It's not just the odd post you parade negative on it's everybody's Post. I hate to read anyone's posts because I know that when a good healthy debate opens up. Your odds on to project gross negative attitude into it.
Go hustle on the LFC page cause your the biggest and darkest cloud with nothing positive
SNIYGNGTS.
7.) 25 Jun 2025 06:26:02
Red villain, sorry did not realise there was much to be positive about, please enlighten me with all the positives with United, so I can have a party!
Easy answer skip my post or you the woke brigade and people can only comment if it’s all nice and fluffy comment…. get in the real world not the fluffy woke 2025 world.
8.) 25 Jun 2025 21:37:04
2 proven PL players whos runs in the first 5 games of the season had a higher workrate than most.
A manager with a pair of steel ones that has seen what we have been saying for ages
Finally the dead wood and the badd eggs are getting the boot
That's all the positives I need to be happy
Add a GK and real CF and I'll be F. Ecstatic for the season
Ps I've just got the black jersey for a £10 And it's perfect so get in.
04 Dec 2024 13:47:10
Seeing quite a few links to clubs looking at dalot.
That would be a great result for us if we could sell him.
A very average player not suited to a wing back role at all long term imo. Really poor crosser of the ball and suffers from severe concentration lapses.
Always gives his all but so did ralph milne.
1.) 04 Dec 2024 14:06:02
Ken,
I agree with you. The club needs to raise their standards aswell. I do believer others should leave before Dalot. However, Utd could do with the money, if the PSR rumours are to be believed.
2.) 04 Dec 2024 15:26:09
Psr rules are all changing MH. I've a lot less concerns around that going forward.
3.) 04 Dec 2024 15:38:46
When he gets into high positions up the pitch, his head explodes. If we could get an upgrade, would be great.
Not unhappy if he stays as a backup though.
4.) 04 Dec 2024 16:09:20
Decent back up angel but if we can get good money for him it might pay us to sell.
5.) 04 Dec 2024 16:34:49
It's almost unbelievable so many clubs want him, given he is cr4p. Maybe they see something in him.
6.) 04 Dec 2024 16:55:48
He's not crap Tony, far from it. But I believe we need better as first choice.
7.) 04 Dec 2024 17:18:33
He is decent back up at best i'd agree so if someone wants to buy him for 20m plus I think it would be a good deal for us.
He is good back up for Portugal. He has good attributes and would do well I'm sure.
Does he possess the attributes needed to play rwb for our manager I don't think so.
All the noise could be him angling for a new contract. If the coach thinks he fits the system he will get one i'm sure. I don't see him being happy if not regular starter once the team settled down.
8.) 05 Dec 2024 11:20:17
We need Davies.
9.) 05 Dec 2024 12:06:55
Steve Davis. snooker loopy.
10.) 05 Dec 2024 15:57:43
I wonder will anyone sign rashford ajh but you think he is crap so obviously not.
11.) 05 Dec 2024 18:57:45
I don't think Rashford is crap ken, I think he has amazing ability. However, his application and effort is poor and his head seems elsewhere, he's had long enough to fix it but doesn't seem able to.
12.) 05 Dec 2024 21:39:49
I agree. He just shirks any physical contact and work.
I really think he should move for his own good. I'd like to see him excel elsewhere but I don't think he has the drive.
13.) 05 Dec 2024 21:46:56
Far more valuable and problem assets in the squad than Dalot.
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03 Dec 2025 19:33:04
Is this the 1st time ever united will have more players going to the afcon than they have English players going to the wc?
11 Nov 2025 13:17:25
So not too long now till jan window.
Outs in Jan probably on loan could be mainoo and zirkzee with both anxious to secure a wc squad spot they need to be playing regularly somewhere. i'm not sure if there are any other senior candidates. Possibly ugarte depending on incoming.
Incoming are a different story we need 1 x cm 1 x lwb as priority and an experienced striker.
As non priority a rwb cb and another cm i expect all non priority to be ignored in Jan and perhaps we can get 2 of the priority signings in in Jan.
Amass having a very good loan spell he could return and make an impact at lwb but still lacks a lot of experience.
I can only see forest palace or Brighton ripping us off for Anderson wharton or baleba so maybe we can get a good loan deal in and wait till Jan. I would loathe to see mainoo leave on loan unless we have a really good replacement.
Gallagher is a loan option I guess.
I think we will need to be creative it will be interesting to see which way they go.
1.) 11 Nov 2025 13:57:42
January has never been the best time to do deals unless you’re desperate.
Amorim held off last winter so that he could prioritise the summer signings. Unless a long term injury to the likes of Sesko is confirmed, then I cannot see much movement.
2.) 11 Nov 2025 14:22:52
No Man Utd incomings expected in January
Latest from Sky Sports News' Dan Khan and Rob Dorsett:
Manchester United are not expected to bring in any incomings in the January transfer window as things stand, despite losing players to the Africa Cup of Nations.
The club could move in January if a player becomes available – such as a target they are aiming for in a future window – however they are not expected to make a reactive signing based on three players going to AFCON, or the recent injury to striker Benjamin Sesko.
In relation to losing Bryan Mbeumo, Amad Diallo, and Noussair Mazraoui heading to AFCON, head coach Ruben Amorim said at the weekend: “Let’s see when the window is open, if we can improve the team and try to prepare something that happened. Until then, we have to take the chance. "
Sky Sports News has previously reported United are prioritising a new midfielder next summer, with Brighton’s Carlos Baleba, Nottingham Forest’s Elliot Anderson and Crystal Palace’s Adam Wharton three players admire at Old Trafford and continue to monitor - though those players are highly unlikely to move in January.
3.) 11 Nov 2025 18:11:53
If mainoo amd or zirkzee get a move i'd bet my bottom dollar that we will get someone in.
Ill be shocked if they don't at least get 1 or 2 loans in.
Recall for amass might be on the cards we have that option in the loan deal given that he has played so well.
Dorgu can play rwb also to cover dalot while maz and amad are at afcon. We might see Shaw as a lwb.
4.) 11 Nov 2025 22:09:58
Why can't our scouting network find a cheaper alternative but just as effective as paying out £100m for a player. Brighton do it regularly. There must be players out there who would significantly improve our midfield but sensibly priced.
5.) 12 Nov 2025 03:42:39
Because as soon as man utd come calling it means by definition that the must be a $100m midfielder or we wouldn't want them. We are considered a rich final destination club by selling clubs and agents. Good luck finding a cheaper player who is ready to start for us who is less than $100m when all is said and done.
Caicedo, endo, declan rice the list goes on, a top class midfielder in epl is going for $100m. Wharton, baleba and anderson will all probably go for more than $100m, so is there no value in the market, or are we going to get back into the race?
I agree that it is unlikely we do much in Jan. But if we don't do some business in Jan we will miss out on UCL and with summer world cup, we will seriously struggle to get enough done in the summer.
6.) 12 Nov 2025 05:49:17
Baleba is never ever a 100 million plus player and should not be mentioned in same breath as Rice or Caicedo or Endo come to that.
7.) 12 Nov 2025 09:03:01
Oh dear, here it is!
8.) 12 Nov 2025 09:37:52
Baleba is a brilliant player. However this season, he isn't playing asqell as he can do. Perhaps his head has been turned by Utd.
He would be a great purchase, price depending, with Anderson and Wharton ahead of him.
{Ed001's Note - he missed pre-season with injury and is only just getting back to full fitness now.}
9.) 12 Nov 2025 10:47:45
I can see a loan for Mainoo with the World Cup coming at the end of the season, unless there is plans behind the scenes to get him ready to step up as the season progresses. At the minute, it looks like he is not in favour. Ugarte again could want out and if we could bring in a replacement I would not be against this, he has not been the same player this season.
We may need to use the youth players if we do not add anyone which would not necessarily be a bad thing longer term and we should trust them.
Bringing Amass back is definitley an option, looks to be playing well at Wednesday and could have an impact in games even if as a sub going forward.
10.) 12 Nov 2025 15:09:59
Pity we didn't pick Anderson up from Newcastle in the first place is what I'm more disappointed in.
11.) 12 Nov 2025 15:19:59
Thanks for the info ED001.
I do feel that Balena woukd be ideal for Utd. With Anderson or Whorton alongside him.
04 Nov 2025 20:53:00
Good thread below on casimero and his good form.
The real difficult the manager has is also a blessing for a different reason for the season imo and that is that we only have 1 game per week.
So with less injuries and a lesser requirement to rotate some players are getting very little game time.
Ordinarily if we had 2 games a week 18 to 20 players will be in the starting 11 over 30 times a season minimum. But that 20, if players stay fit And results are OK will become 14 or 15 so there is no doubt that its going to be difficult to keep them happy. Going out in the league cup compounded the problem.
It makes it hard for mainoo zirkzee heaven obi and academy players to get a decent look in. We've been on a decent run for the last 4 so its pretty much right to go same again next weekend its hard to put up a case for changes.
So the 11 that started plus mount maguire and dorgu are the main 14 he picks from if all are fit. i'd expect martinez to come into that to make it 15.
Casimero is benefiting as will bruno and deligt in particular.
In a 60 game season very few players start more than 40
In a 38 game season the top guys should be starting 30 plus, if available so it doesn't help the 2nd tier.
1.) 05 Nov 2025 04:24:28
Good post Shappy no deliberate mistakes either, I am impressed and I agree yes there are 14 main players for RA and for him to go same again…quite like the workings of how many games players play per season that don’t help 2nd tier.
2.) 05 Nov 2025 11:44:40
Maze. Maybe you should get some 'red tints' so you can see who's post you are trolling.
3.) 05 Nov 2025 18:21:41
Monkey, I'm detecting a strong smell of sarcasm from his opening line, mate.
4.) 06 Nov 2025 06:01:52
All I can smell is troll, Nou.
01 Nov 2025 14:10:06
This may or may not be an accurate report but I've heard today that the ex Prince Andrew made contact with Stephen Gerrard to see how he copes in life without a title!
28 Oct 2025 13:28:25
Shashank fair play on your post below.
Its not that you were wrong it was your opinion at the time. As none of us are educated on the finer points of managing a professional football team at this level we are mostly guessing or reacting to the here and now emotionally.
Not everybody is a strategic thinker or looks at the bigger picture.
Most football fans are reacting on emotions and feelings and can't see past the nose on their own face.
Some here are more in out in out than the hokey kokey.
This is a project and we are a long way from the finished article (if there is such a thing) .
There will be plenty more ups and definitely more downs before the season is out.
But we are on the right track with the right leader.
The place has been toxic from top to bottom for a long time. The business has been undergoing a full restructure and many jobs needed to be cut on top of a poor performing team the noise was unbearable.
I think you said before you go to the games regularly so you should be able to feel the shift in mood better than some of us.
Some of your posts recently were made through obvious frustration and that's understandable.
Strategic thinking and upheaval takes time to reward.
Some of our less mature posters are like the baby bull with the daddy bull looking at a herd of cows in the next field.
The baby bull wants to Charge down and get stuck in and runs out of steam halfway through the herd. But the daddy bull walks down slowly thinking strategically biding his time so he can service the whole herd.
Daddy bull is strategic, and understands that taking time and doing things right will deliver better results.
Lots of fans are like the baby bull just interested in the here and now. Sometimes the penny drops with maturity, knowledge and experience that means there are more important things than the here and now and you shouldn't always react on emotions.
When your a fan its sometimes hard to not react negatively I see Liverpool fans at it now.
I hope and I believe you are right and that we have a keeper in RA.
If i was in a bunker with him staying my leader and he asked me to go over the brow of the hill, I wouldn't be wondering if I should i'd be straight over. If eth had asked me i'd be looking at everyone else asking if they trust his judgement as I didn't.
RA is a leader of men no doubt about that imo.
The most idiotic comment I've read on here from a so called fan was a call to hate the club but support the team. Says all you need to know about the moral fibre of that over emotional person.
1.) 28 Oct 2025 14:48:55
Great post Ken. Shappyesque :P
Got you point in one paragraph.
2.) 28 Oct 2025 16:00:26
The rest was just a load of bull S3x ?
I am firmly in the give RA more time club. I don't count last season. So everyone looking at his win loss etc is just penalising him for a mess he didn't creat. In fact he is the one who has come in and weeded out the ones who need to go and we now feel like he started fresh this season.
Still deficiencies in the squad. Still issues with adoption and results from his new playing style. But now it feels like he should be judged by his results. Take away last season and let him stand or fall from July onwards. So far it is okay and I can see the squad progress, if not the long term vision for this squad.
3.) 28 Oct 2025 16:35:14
Db he didn't want the job in oct but he was sort of forced into it i guess.
Walked into the middle of a sh##storm.
But I'm sort of glad he did because it helped weed out some of the eejits in the squad.
Even now he is still walking a tightrope.
We could lose a couple and fall back quite easily. If that happens we can expect a return of all our missing posters and trolls who seem to have less to say after a few wins. Eric kurtis and shashank being the exceptions.
But the work ethic is better from the team so even with some square pegs in round holes we should do enough to improve.
The last time united were within 6 points of the lead after 9 games was when fergie was in charge. So he is doing something right.
2 tough away games in the next 2 I don't know if we will win lose or draw them. i'm hoping for a minimum of 4 points from those next 2 games if we get that then we can all relax as i'd say relegation would be out of the question. ?.
4.) 28 Oct 2025 16:38:49
LOL. condescending or what! Rather eloquent piece of writing I wonder why that is, none of the deliberate mistakes within it either to throw of the scent but of course some of us know….
But to the football and all those that were calling for sell Bruno and replace with Baleba, hope you watched the game, how poor is Baleba.100 mil my A***
But runs about a lot Fred done that….
5.) 28 Oct 2025 17:20:43
Some positive results and amorim finally getting some momentum.
I was one of the people who more so questioned the players than the style of play luke shaw in the last 2 games has stood into midfield more.
I was critical if him in pre season game against Everton and the arsenal game aswell for pretty much taking ugarte and casemiro out of position back to him.
6.) 28 Oct 2025 17:35:25
John i think we have all been critical at one point or another.
No doubt its been slower than we all wanted but the size of the task warrants more tolerance and support.
I think our 4 new signings have only played 3 games together and the new front 3 have started together on 3 occasions.
Time on the training ground is helping and the preparation time we have week to week is slowlypaying divefends.
There will be a few more out results I've no doubt about that.
It going to be some scrap for the European places i'd expect Liverpool to bounce back soon enough with the quality they have to maybe push for a cl place. But at least we are still in the mix at this stage and not hopeless.
7.) 28 Oct 2025 22:28:25
I think most of us wanted RA to be given time to succeed. I also think it's fair to say that most of us were really disappointed and had doubts about him after a decent pre season and some exciting signings when we played so poorly after the Arsenal game up until the last three matches.
Now the thing is not get carried away by those last three wins.
We should be beating Sunderland but it was no walk in the park. The Liverpool win was great for bragging rights but Brentford showed them up as a struggling team. We didn't beat the Liverpool team of last year. Our win against Brighton was welcome (especially the number of goals we scored) but when they turned up in the second half we were far from comfortable defending.
Our midfield is still lightweight and we still concede too many chances and goals. I am happy that we are improving but will be happier still if and when we start keeping clean sheets too.
Confidence is a mercurial thing. It can disappear even quicker than it arrives and is a fragile thing. Let's hope that we keep on winning because once the players really are confident and if they can win six or seven on the bounce then they will surely show the full range of talent that they have and other teams will fear them. It will also give RA the ability to keep on coaching how we wants without the inhibiting pressure of constant criticism that follows defeats.
8.) 30 Oct 2025 07:01:55
I am at all the games at home and go to some of the away fixtures. mood was he is gone a few weeks ago and all my mates where done with him but something has changed. Went to the scouse away fixture thinking the worst and the abuse we get when we play them.
I hope we get a couple in in Jan on loan that gets us to the summer. It just did not sit right with me sitting in the bottom half and losing games the way we did we have a better squad than that. He has turned it around and hope we start winning a lot more and losing some is part of the game.
I for one never slag our players and they are a lot better than most give them credit except sancho. no heart, no pride no desire.
9.) 30 Oct 2025 07:30:32
We needed more goals and I think we are amongst the top scores in the league now, the difference is we’re have also conceded 14 goals and only have one clean sheet.
If we can tighten up at the back and stop making silly mistakes, then it should be a decent season.
02 Dec 2025 13:40:10
I think some of our season ticket holders should be vetted for suitability and have their tickets revoked. #getridoftheantifansgivetheirseattoatourist.
02 Sep 2025 20:53:06
He will hand plenty of defending to do. Good experience for him. Hope he plays regularly. i'm sure he will as they are short of good players. They were big club with lots of good players at one time. I really hope they find a way out of the mess they are in.
30 Aug 2025 09:44:56
Turkey on loan or Saudi beckons if he doesn't lower his demands.
These players are taking bback control and are refusing what they don't want.
Its a real conundrum.
Easy to stay stick him in the reserves but there are unintended consequences by doing that. Such as buying a keeper or midfielder.
28 Aug 2025 01:05:52
He did OK first half hour or was all to fat for him and he was or but found his feet. To be expected not played for a while.
Awful team performance needless to say i would expect a lot better.
Keeper is a joke.
Midfield and wing backs were shocking.
21 Aug 2025 18:03:14
Eth didn't sign sancho. He inherited him. i'm no eth fan but we can't blame him on sancho.
04 Dec 2025 22:54:09
Fallguy. Who do you think he spoils have played and when.
04 Dec 2025 17:51:26
What's wrong with long throws?
I love a good long throw set piece. Its a really effective weapon imo if you have the right thrower.
A like the drama chaos and atmosphere they create too.
Absolutely no different to a corner kick imo. If you have players who can hone that delivery skill from the sideline then exploit that to the max.
04 Dec 2025 17:45:56
ED025 i have to say i don't find them boring at all. I really admire them.
Mind you i can find the beauty and brilliance in a good 0-0 draw. I really like seeing good defending or goal keeping and I think we all enjoy terrible le misses.
I think they play very good football at a good pace. They do lack a bit of flair but eze will bring more of that i'd imagine saka is also getting better and more rounded.
Arteta has done a great job there imo without getting over the line.
I hope they win it this season and or the cl. Nothing wrong with his pragmatism he is still a very inexperienced manager so I tip my hat to him.
He's had great backing and support particularly in his 1st couple of seasons and the club will feel very happy and justified in their choices on him.
Ok he is probably more Southgate than Ron Atkinson ? but that's ok.
{Ed025's Note - they are a very good side Ken and their strength in depth is their strongest suit i would say, to lose the likes of Gabriel and Saliba and still come up with a clean sheet tells you everything, they have quite a few flair players as well and although they can overplay situations at times they always have goals in them mate, i expect them to win the league at a canter because Liverpool have imploded and City are on the wane, no need to mention any other teams because they are all just also rans..
04 Dec 2025 17:13:54
Who should be have played and when fallguy?
01 Dec 2025 17:53:05
For sure. John. Might wait till next Monday to start.